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Lana Torrin Minmatar Republic Military Skool	Posted - 2009.06.15 07:12:00 - [91] Originally by: Joskken Inx Originally by: Jodi Goulsti This HAS to be a troll. I agree, there's no way we went 3 pages without realizing the OP has played us all. 4 pages....
Tsumei Meyren Creative Cookie Procuring	Posted - 2009.06.15 07:16:00 - [92] Originally by: Crazy Tasty Lol, they're doing it wrong tbh. My thoughts exactly. Destroyers are cheaper \o/
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.06.15 08:58:00 - [93] Originally by: Subspace Wolf Edited by: Subspace Wolf on 14/06/2009 14:30:56 Edited by: Subspace Wolf on 14/06/2009 14:30:08 The cowardly pirates of Decon and Balle are using a trick. They cannot enter highsec legally - since some of them are -10 or near security status. So they are using a new mining support ship, the Orca, never intended for this purpose, to bring in their pirate Thoraxes to meet them in pods. They are doing this dozens of times every week - and many times a day. They quickly come into highsec in pods, and meet their team of ill repute - jump in their suicide Thoraxes, and attack miners for their sport. They have found a loophole in the Universe. Is it right - or will the Creators close it? Some thoughts: -5 and below security status pods coming into highsec could meet with some new, enhanced, and rather nasty security measures * gate webs and scrams that work well on outlaw pods, allowing time for CONCORD to arrive within 20 km of gates * gate scanners that take note (these are very special new scanners) that said Orcas contain the worst outlaws. After scanning this, CONCORD could again be invoked on said Orcas - whilst still near the gate or early in system - even in a 0.5 system Results: Pirate Tears YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR The most cherished kind Signed concerned Anti-Pirates, Carebears, Miners, and Assorted Lot We shall not flag nor fail, we shall go on to the end. We shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air...whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender. Sir Winston Churchill, June 4, 1940 To preserve the future generations, we should neuter you and your children - if they exist. --- I smack just for myself. * Your signature file is to large. Please note: we do not allow signature files larger than 24000 bytes - Fallout
Tiny Tove	Posted - 2009.06.15 09:09:00 - [94] The worst thing about it is that CCP will buff CONCORD to counter them and effectively carpet bomb suicide ganking. So suffer now, and you will get free release later, hang in there and keep right on whining, CCP nerflings will be on their way to your rescue soon. And after you've thanked them for nerfing the suicides, you can whine about something else, I don't know what, market prices falling all the time or something...
Kaya Valda Caldari Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate	Posted - 2009.06.15 10:10:00 - [95] Originally by: Reckoning 09 I agree that concord are there for punishment only but for the love of god have the faction police put a point on people before they put a web But it's the police. 1. They're stupid. 2. The scram button is nearest their doughnut hand. - Read My Blog
crastar	Posted - 2009.06.15 10:14:00 - [96] Originally by: Tiny Tove The worst thing about it is that CCP will buff CONCORD to counter them and effectively carpet bomb suicide ganking. No they wont. Fact: Danger is sexy. Freaking awesomely so. Evading danger is even more so. I cant count the number of people who have flown t1 frigs around low sec evading the 10-20 pirates trying to guess which belt at what distance they will hop to next. Hulks will just have to get the sexy on and mine aligned with eye's on local instead of mining semi-afk like they do now. Every hulk that evades a gank is a winner, those that fail - well they fail don't they. Not much sex appeal looking at a hulk wreck. (unless you just ganked it!) I think i was making some sort of point at the beginning of this post... There are two types of eve player, and hunters and prey. Which one are you? Whichever description fits you, do you really want ccp to take away the pew thrills? If they did what's the point of playing? isk? So you want to leave meta-gaming as the only alternative to ganking to relieve those with too much isk of the burden of riches? I'm up for it. I would adapt. I'd be scamming, lying, cheating, and never leaving station unless it was for..... well i'd never leave station. In fact, think of the money ccp would save on hiring 3d programmers if no-one undocked. We may just be on to something. T3 hulks could run on auto-pilot, warp unpiloted to a belt absolutely invulnerable, even use covert-ops cloaks. Be able to run strip miners cloaked, and beam the veld back to your hanger. Total safety. All you need to see is the hanger filling up, and the sell orders getting filled. Is that what you want? Because if that's it, I have another solution that cuts you out of the loop completely. Free ships, and free mods/station bits etc. All you need is the training to use them. Problem solved. No need for miners at all. No industry. Everyone fights, all the time. Still going to whine because you haven't got the sp to fly a decent ship? Then we'll nerf sp. Everyone can fly anything at all. Once again there's no need to undock, fights will be determined by how many people are in system at a given time. No need to hire 3d programmers, no need to do anything but sit in station and smack in local about how unfair it is that all your corpies are in a different timezone.... I'm sure i was trying to make some sort of point here. ****ed if i know what it was.
Princess Tama Amarr	Posted - 2009.06.15 10:19:00 - [97] Now Subspace, what are you going to do about a person with high standings that can enter hisec without being chased by Concord? If he/she suicides (small orgasm ), are you going to whine just as much or are you simply going to petition for every non-miner to be banned from the game? I have an idea: we'll ask CCP to get you a separate blade so you can shoot rocks all day on your own ... ... OMG NOES nobody to sell it too ... YOU ARE ALONE ! Start playing simcity !
Rashattazbastaz	Posted - 2009.06.15 10:51:00 - [98] If you're so worried about being ganked in hisec, go mine on Singularity.
Lirune Sharmier Gallente Chimera Raiders	Posted - 2009.06.15 11:20:00 - [99] Crastar: Don't they have a facebook app for that?
Absalom Marathon The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction	Posted - 2009.06.15 11:23:00 - [100] Originally by: Bestofworst Anything goes in Eve. Be creative and try to come up with some way to defend yourself instead of asking for CCP to protect you. W O R D

Mazlow Shartain	Posted - 2009.06.15 13:01:00 - [101] Originally by: Bestofworst Anything goes in Eve. Be creative and try to come up with some way to defend yourself instead of asking for CCP to protect you. This should be on the box.
Bestofworst Gallente	Posted - 2009.06.15 13:10:00 - [102] Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: Joskken Inx Originally by: Jodi Goulsti This HAS to be a troll. I agree, there's no way we went 3 pages without realizing the OP has played us all. 4 pages.... I found out this was a troll on post 40 Quote: Aww, poor carebear. They is no rule against pirates actually entering highsec, just against stupid pirates occupying it. This is a clever troll and I fell for it >< ---- My Music
g0ggalor	Posted - 2009.06.15 13:34:00 - [103] OP, get a retriever and go mine in lowsec for a week. You will learn how not to get ganked. Eve was meant to be played, not afked.
Mystafyre Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2009.06.15 14:45:00 - [104] Originally by: Subspace Wolf FAIL... I did this solo, I was -10.00, I had alt who delivered ship for me to safespot, ejected the ship, I boarded and warped to bookmark in the middle of retriever fleet... It's not a exploit, it's just a ship wich has ship maintenance bay. The ship isn't KOS to empire, you have to remember that! After he boards the ship, faction navies attack it instantly. Concord after he sets of Global Criminal Countdown. For example creation of noob alt to deliver ship for yourself takes about two days of training time. If you are pirate and have slot free in second account, just train the skills you need to use t1 mods and that's it. Only way to prevent this is making Concord kill the ship instantly if KOS pilot boards a ship in high sec. That's the only way.
Ga'len Neo Spartans Laconian Syndicate	Posted - 2009.06.15 14:49:00 - [105] Originally by: Subspace Wolf Edited by: Subspace Wolf on 14/06/2009 14:30:56 Edited by: Subspace Wolf on 14/06/2009 14:30:08 The cowardly pirates of Decon and Balle are using a trick. They cannot enter highsec legally - since some of them are -10 or near security status. So they are using a new mining support ship, the Orca, never intended for this purpose, to bring in their pirate Thoraxes to meet them in pods. They are doing this dozens of times every week - and many times a day. They quickly come into highsec in pods, and meet their team of ill repute - jump in their suicide Thoraxes, and attack miners for their sport. They have found a loophole in the Universe. Is it right - or will the Creators close it? ... Sorry, yesterday called, they want their news back. This is nothing new and has been ruled NOT an exploit. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=938125 http://www.eve-druid.com
Atillius	Posted - 2009.06.15 14:59:00 - [106] Reading the OP.....gotta say, thumbs up for the pirates. Who would have thunk it....? Pirates being dishonorable, cunning, and dare I say mean?
Dominik Maiverti Clan Mythos World Allegiance of The Hunt	Posted - 2009.06.15 16:48:00 - [107] I mean c'mon. I dont like pirates (no offense you yarr's out there) it's just not my thing. BUT for the love of jebus. when someone does something that upsets you, well that doesn't mean its an exploit! If that were true, the following would be exploits ::Can't dock due to aggression. EXPLOIT ::My corpies are stupid and do high quality missions in lowsec. EXPLOIT ::Getting can flipped. EXPLOIT ::Asteroid is exhausted. EXPLOIT ::I forget to bring enough ammo to a fight. EXPLOIT ::Subspace giving carebears a bad name! EXPLOIT having said that. I don't really get can flipped. I graduated from n00bcake university a while back. ...I'm sure that's an exploit... Life is hard for pirates, but apparently they get crafty and figure out ways to pirate. You mine, they mine miners. It's ...whats that thing called?????? GAME MECHANICS. I think you are fired, sir. Freighters: Structure Tanking FTW.
species2143	Posted - 2009.06.15 17:37:00 - [108] Originally by: Dominik Maiverti ::Subspace giving carebears a bad name! EXPLOIT WORD!
Ronja Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.06.15 17:37:00 - [109] I got 99 problems but finding a hulk aint one of them
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.06.15 17:38:00 - [110] Originally by: Ronja I got 99 problems but finding a hulk aint one of them NJ on those 16 hattrick hulks. :)

Luskaie Gallente defiant. Rough Necks	Posted - 2009.06.15 17:44:00 - [111] Ahh, care bears are crying again, yummy tears, Ganking is a part of eve, just because they use small tricks to give themself a way to get into system easy does not mean its an exploit the Orca was designed to move ships just because its not a mining ship does not mean its not a use for it :) if you donÆt like it, simply dock and wait for them to leave, they play their game, you play yours. Yarr. Lusk
Sun Clausewitz	Posted - 2009.06.15 17:55:00 - [112] I think everyone who yells Exploit and petitions something stupid like this should be forced to be stuck in noob chat without being able to minimize their chat window forever Pick Three: Caldari/PVP/Solo/Success
Stele Toque	Posted - 2009.06.15 17:59:00 - [113] Originally by: Subspace Wolf Wahhhh Adapt or die. You died, so what are you crying about now?
VoiceInTheDesert Zebra Corp Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2009.06.15 18:48:00 - [114] Originally by: Lana Torrin Originally by: Joskken Inx Originally by: Jodi Goulsti This HAS to be a troll. I agree, there's no way we went 3 pages without realizing the OP has played us all. 4 pages.... At first, I got excited because I thought "Hey, I could dec these guys." Then I realized that the OP is most likely a Death of Virtue alt who is trolling or looking for more carebears to kill by joining his anti-pirate corp.
Agent Known Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.06.15 19:29:00 - [115] How about...you know...setting them to -10 standings so you can see them in local before they come to you? Treat it like low-sec: see a red, dock. Usually some people fight back but in high-sec the only "real" defense is to dock or go to a safespot. Of course, going to the same system over and over and getting ganked is wonderful logic.
Subspace Wolf Eisenhower Anti-Pirates	Posted - 2009.06.16 04:27:00 - [116] Originally by: Steven Seagall After frothing at the mouth with smack for 30 minutes in decon, the OP was killed in a stabbed caracal by 'exploiters' apparently. Also lawl @ Churchill quotes, internet spaceships lol. Well it took about an hour, and a Taranis was the one that got me so gf on that - but took an hour for 7 pirates with 1-3 years of experience to get my one month in Caracal so what does that say about you pirate skillz???
Subspace Wolf Eisenhower Anti-Pirates	Posted - 2009.06.16 04:28:00 - [117] Originally by: Tiny Tove The worst thing about it is that CCP will buff CONCORD to counter them and effectively carpet bomb suicide ganking. hehe sounds good to me Missy. YARRR anti-pirates!
Subspace Wolf Eisenhower Anti-Pirates	Posted - 2009.06.16 04:30:00 - [118] Originally by: Princess Tama Now Subspace, what are you going to do about a person with high standings that can enter hisec without being chased by Concord? If he/she suicides (small orgasm ), are you going to whine just as much or are you simply going to petition for every non-miner to be banned from the game? I have an idea: we'll ask CCP to get you a separate blade so you can shoot rocks all day on your own ... ... OMG NOES nobody to sell it too ... YOU ARE ALONE ! Start playing simcity ! OMG I don't use blades I use missiles - go back to Wow lolz. And we are just saying what everyone knows is true: These Pirates are Criminals pure and simple!
Wandering Hobo	Posted - 2009.06.16 07:04:00 - [119] We need to stop this horrble horrible tactic! CCP Please make it so that the Orca and Hulk are not allowed in high sec. This will stop pirates using Orca to get gank ships into high sec and it will also stop Hulk miners from being targets of suicide ganking.
Misanth Reaper Industries	Posted - 2009.06.16 07:27:00 - [120] It would be quite fun if CCP did something like reducing the effectiveness of Orca and Exhumer stats by 90% in highsec.



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