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Kyo Makamoto
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.27 05:25:00 -
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It seems that certain people in the australian government are about to ban all online games.
source: Article
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Barkaial Starfinder
Minmatar The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc. Balance of Judgment
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Posted - 2009.06.27 05:30:00 -
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Well, that guy in Australia must be a troll.
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Xaa
Minmatar House Arrakis
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Posted - 2009.06.27 05:37:00 -
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Australia: the next China.
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fanilkill
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Posted - 2009.06.27 05:40:00 -
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I seen nothing in there about banning online games. From what i was reading it looks like there going to ban you from downloading them. There not going to ban you from buying the CD. That way if your under 15 you can't buy and down load the game with out mom or dad knowing. You would have to ask your parents to take you to the store to buy it, that gives them a chance to see what it is your playing. I don't like the idea but then again i don't live there.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.27 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kyo Makamoto It seems that certain people in the australian government are about to ban all online games that are rated greater than 15+.
source: Article
Fixed and bolded the important part. So basically the vast majority of games including eve will still be accessable. If there is any major resistance its from the rockstar games type of developers who quite honestly needed an official biatch smack to the pavement long ago.
Originally by: Vaden Khale He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
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Kyo Makamoto
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.27 05:49:00 -
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tl;dr version:
Quote: Mark Newton, an ISP engineer and internet filtering critic, said the move to extend the filtering to computer games would place a cloud over online-only games such as World of Warcraft and Second Life, which aren't classified in Australia due to their online nature.
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rValdez5987
Amarr Imperial Guard.
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Posted - 2009.06.27 06:03:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kyo Makamoto It seems that certain people in the australian government are about to ban all online games that are rated greater than 15+.
source: Article
Fixed and bolded the important part. So basically the vast majority of games including eve will still be accessable. If there is any major resistance its from the rockstar games type of developers who quite honestly needed an official biatch smack to the pavement long ago.
You fail to see the bigger picture.
Censorship in any form should be illegal. Parents should be held accountable for their negligence. If parents aren't responsible enough to handle their own children or teach them right from wrong, they should either not have children or they should be taken away.
No excuses as to this either. Everything comes down to choices. The majority of mankind is unintelligent and as such chooses poorly. They deserve to be punished as a master would punish its dog. Most parents don't supervise their kids then blame everyone else for their own negligence. It's like a gun owner blaming the gun for murdering his wife when it was the gun owner that lost his temper and pulled the trigger. And yet this story continues to repeat all around me, on the news, everyday. It never ends.
As to what I meant about censorship and how it will be abused, there are businesses, and opposition leaders for political parties that have websites on the latest censorship list. This isn't just in Australia but Germany as well. All the progress that has been made through globalization is on the way to being undone, a country at a time. It's starts with censorship, removal of individual liberties, and growing government and corporate corruption until we are essentially going completely backwards.
Greed is the primary factor. Power is the other factor.
Humanity is on its way to a new dark age if the younger generations don't wake the **** up and take power of our countries back. Get this filth out of office. |
AkRoYeR
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.06.27 06:13:00 -
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America is next, than Europe.
It's all part of the grand scheme of control of the masses and the NWO.
Be prepared for big brother to come knocking soon because your dog farted outside and you need to pay tax on the CO2 or methane it released.
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Kytanos Termek
Caldari Darkstorm Command Ethereal Dawn
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Posted - 2009.06.27 06:27:00 -
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Big brother double plus good. |
Kolatha
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Posted - 2009.06.27 06:54:00 -
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While the whole situation is a little ludicrous I think there might be a bit of an over reaction. From the regulation in question, under schedule 7.
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Under Schedule 7, prohibited content includes content that has been classified or is likely to be classified: RC (refused classification) X18+ R18+ unless it is subject to a restricted access system MA15+ and is provided on a commercial basis (i.e. for a fee) unless it is subject to a restricted access system.
The point to note here is the inclusion of explicit reference to restricted access systems. It is pretty easy to argue that since (most) online games require a valid credit card to register and that playing the games requires registration there shouldn't be any real issue.
However, there is still the problem that Australia really does need an R18 rating for computer games and is an issue that the senator in question seems intent on ignoring.
So if you want to send a message please send a polite and well thought out and written email or fax to Senator Conroy. Being impolite or writing something that makes you sound like a ******ed chimpanzee banging at a keyboard (in other words, if you write like you are writing to an online forum) it will only harm the cause.
Contact details are here Senator Conroy |
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Kessiaan
Minmatar MicroFunks
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Posted - 2009.06.27 07:04:00 -
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From the article, it sounds like some crazy overprotective parent type in a high place is trying to stop Australians from downloading games not suitable for people under 15.
They can block the main download site for EvE but everyone will just use mirrors. People who play EvE tend to be much more computer savvy than mainstream folk, I doubt this would be anything more than a trifling inconvenience.
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Jukhtress Mein
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Posted - 2009.06.27 07:07:00 -
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Every night, every night.
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Chereadenine Zakalwe
Caldari Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.06.27 07:21:00 -
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OMG OMG!!! First we contend with having downtime during peak play time..Now there gonna banz us!! Are we really that L33T..
C`mon folks..we march on Canberra tonight!!!
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Telling somebody you love them is like firing first in a dual. Your screwed if you miss them.. |
Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.27 07:35:00 -
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Quote: Censorship in any form should be illegal
So child ****ography should be freely accessible? Yes I know the argument is used to often, but i get kinda bored with all the people saying everything should be allowed because it is the internet. And no i cant agree with this law, but like it or not, the internet needs to be regulated. |
F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp.
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Posted - 2009.06.27 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kyo Makamoto It seems that certain people in the australian government are about to ban all online games that are rated greater than 15+.
source: Article
Fixed and bolded the important part. So basically the vast majority of games including eve will still be accessable. If there is any major resistance its from the rockstar games type of developers who quite honestly needed an official biatch smack to the pavement long ago.
Online content isn't rated in most any game anywhere, because it's "subject to change". This is an important part of the proposed law, because, since they're using the "think of the children" defense, they can go after unrated content and claim it's rated 15+ (or whatever the other local standards are, and they'd be right) so they can block any online game because they talk about real world things (and a lot of juvenile stuff like ***s, Jews, and all that which the more thoughtful outgrew before they were 10, also boobies and other nasty parts of the body which are the providence of Santa).
So there is reason to be concerned, because those who want to censor pretty much anything will use the seemingly most inconsequential part of a law to exploit their position if given the chance. |
Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Burning Horizons
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Posted - 2009.06.27 07:47:00 -
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This isn't good I have some australians in my corp :(.
Hopefully this doesn't pass, stupid governments butting in where they shouldn't.
Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
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Kyo Makamoto
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.27 07:51:00 -
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Quote: So child ****ography should be freely accessible? Yes I know the argument is used to often, but i get kinda bored with all the people saying everything should be allowed because it is the internet. And no i cant agree with this law, but like it or not, the internet needs to be regulated.
Child pron is illegal - everywhere in the world. Any such content MUST be on a server somewhere. Ergo: shut the server down and take the owner to court. There is no reason to ban the IP (which any half-intelligent computer savvy person can get around). There must be a lot of people in high places that want to avoid this.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.27 07:55:00 -
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I'm not condoning the action just pointing out that its not a global ban on online games like the op seemed to claim. What the future holds is up to the australians and how they vote next election or in any lobbies they put into the political machine. Tbh just making an 18+ rating would probably solve the whole issue with the minimum of fuss but again thats up to the people who elect the people who make the laws.
Originally by: Vaden Khale He's doing the moonwalk in HEE-hee-hell.
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Selia Evrion
Gallente Night-Stalkerz Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2009.06.27 07:56:00 -
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The Australian Government is never going to ban online games.
And they can do all they want to ban sites selling violent games, but you know what that's simply going to lead to? An increase in piracy.
Wow my government is amazing. Still, it's better than having the American government. Barely.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.06.27 08:03:00 -
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Originally by: Selia Evrion Wow my government is amazing. Still, it's better than having the American government. Barely.
Ours is getting better it just takes alot of time to change the course of a countries inertia. We have all that inertia built up from the cold war that has yet to bleed competely away. This new government that obama brought in almoast competely severed the ties to the old cold war regimes so as he stated change is a coming and the rich corporations that were used to getting billions from an in pocket sympathetic government are going to be howling like banshees when the feed trough gets cut off. Yes things are a changin indeed and for the better.
Meh superderail. |
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.27 08:03:00 -
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Quote: Child pron is illegal - everywhere in the world. Any such content MUST be on a server somewhere. Ergo: shut the server down and take the owner to court. There is no reason to ban the IP (which any half-intelligent computer savvy person can get around). There must be a lot of people in high places that want to avoid this.
Welcome to the internet, you clearly show you dont have a clue about it. Also not a clue about the world, there are plenty of countries with internet where they dont give a crap about what you are hosting as long as you are paying. |
Talosh Min'thor
Gallente Min'thor Holdings
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Posted - 2009.06.27 08:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kessiaan ... it sounds like some crazy overprotective parent type in a high place...
Nice description of our president... God, I hate him... |
Kyo Makamoto
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2009.06.27 08:12:00 -
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[Quote] Welcome to the internet, you clearly show you dont have a clue about it. Also not a clue about the world, there are plenty of countries with internet where they dont give a crap about what you are hosting as long as you are paying.
You sir, have no idea what you are talking about:
Linkage
Quote: The Falcon case illustrates the international nature of the child-**** infrastructure. The IP addresses of the child-**** sites led investigators to servers operated by Rackspace Managed Hosting, based in San Antonio, Texas. Regpay was a Rackspace customer; Rackspace itself has not been implicated. Using search warrants, investigators obtained copies of the hard drives on those servers, and they hit the jackpot: The electronic records of 100,000 transactions conducted in the first six months of 2003, including credit-card information and other data that could be traced back to individual subscribers. "That's where we turned over the leaves," Cantor says. In tracking down individual consumers of the child ****ography, Falcon investigators put a priority on going after those who are in frequent contact with children, including a grade-school teacher, a pediatrician, a minister at an all-girls school, and a camp counselor. The latest suspect: a high-school social-studies teacher in Buffalo, N.Y., arrested Feb. 3 and alleged to have stored more than 400 child-**** images on his home computer.
It is estimated that over 50% of child pron sites are on servers in the USA.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.27 08:17:00 -
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And where exactly did i deny that? You sir, fail at reading.
However if you would remove it all from there, they will pop up in new places. And now i dont say it shouldnt be a high priority to kill servers hosting it, but in the end you just would keep alot left (especially because american servers would just move to other places). So either you are going to carpet bomb datacenters in other countries, or you block it. |
Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
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Posted - 2009.06.27 08:34:00 -
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See it from the brigth side, maybe this will stop the "Move downtime" threads that pop up several times a week. |
Kingnuts
Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2009.06.27 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: AkRoYeR America is next, than Europe.
It's all part of the grand scheme of control of the masses and the NWO.
Be prepared for big brother to come knocking soon because your dog farted outside and you need to pay tax on the CO2 or methane it released.
NWO is the best NWO...wait, theres a knock at the door. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.06.27 09:39:00 -
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dear Australia,
WTF mate?
yours truly Chainsaw Plankton |
Sky Marshal
IMpAct Corp Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.06.27 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: Sky Marshal on 27/06/2009 11:13:41 In France it is getting worse.
In two months, LOPPSI 2 will apply the filtering like Australia. For the moment, at end of July, Hadopi 2 will be done before.
So in Hadopi 2, if you "are > suspected < to have failed to your obligation to apply security measures on your internet access", you will have a fine of 1500€ maximum, and your internet access will be suspended for 6 months maximum (suspended, but you have the obligation to continue to pay this access, that you can't use. It is in the law ).
To compare, you would be sued because you didn't have plexiglas on the windows of your house and didn't build your house with the most solid concrete blocks in the world .
I have to admit that I criticized Bush, but I wouldn't do it if I know that we would have a maniaco-fascist dwarf. It is not really better... |
Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.06.27 11:21:00 -
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A more correct analogy would be that you use a car without a steering wheel and kill everyone near you. If your lack of security on your computer would have only been your problem, then your analogy would be correct. However your lack of security results in us getting spam mails. |
ArmyOfMe
The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2009.06.27 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Kyo Makamoto It seems that certain people in the australian government are about to ban all online games that are rated greater than 15+.
source: Article
Fixed and bolded the important part. So basically the vast majority of games including eve will still be accessable.
read again games like eve isnt rated at all due to it being a online game
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