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marxist revolutionary
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:11:00 -
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Originally by: Heptameron
Not bothering to quote, but about the 1400 in 49- comments... i think you miss the point that the GBC and pets managed to field that for a few days, which means they had the numbers. The fact that they couldn't keep up the momentum is their fault
They had the numbers to match but not enough motivation, Molle could only get people to come for brief periods (49-, the push leading upto i1y). The problem was that kenzoku's allies didn't really give that much of a **** about them; AAA being their worthless selves, stainwagon getting ****ed after realizing during I1Y that AAA cared more about their moongold than contributing after they ran off to khanid instead of maintaining system control, atlas prioritizing taking the south.
In retrospect I guess Molle was right about being used as a sacrificial lamb to keep things bogged down in Querious so Atlas could get finally get some space
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Keflin Geard
Gallente Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:17:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Phreeze Two things:
Is Krautbreak relevant yet? (outside of scamming moon mats)
and
Lawl bitter ex-BoB. You're just mad that half your membership joined tri looking for :good fights: only to have all their **** camped in yet another npc station.
No bitterness just disappointed. The successors to BOB ie NC Goons and PL donĘt have the same desire to make the eve universe burn and create fun and excitement and really wild things. You are lazy, un-ambitious and risk adverse and have been for years. Where have all the insane megalomaniacs gone :(
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Nick Curso
Caldari Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:25:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Keflin Geard
Originally by: Phreeze Two things:
Is Krautbreak relevant yet? (outside of scamming moon mats)
and
Lawl bitter ex-BoB. You're just mad that half your membership joined tri looking for :good fights: only to have all their **** camped in yet another npc station.
No bitterness just disappointed. The successors to BOB ie NC Goons and PL donĘt have the same desire to make the eve universe burn and create fun and excitement and really wild things. You are lazy, un-ambitious and risk adverse and have been for years. Where have all the insane megalomaniacs gone :(
Apparently they work for ccp figuring out how to make earning isk in empire much easier.
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Keflin Geard
Gallente Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:30:00 -
[94]
NC need to hire Nick - he is KRaZy and will add iron to there limp carebear diet.
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Ironnight
Caldari x13 KrautbreaK
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:37:00 -
[95]
Originally by: c0rn1
Hypocrisy? What does the unfortunate situation of RA has to do with 49-? Get down off your friggin high horse you're sitting on and realize the truth: You got installed by your allies into Delve/Q to slap BoB in the face. That's about it. Fear the day, NC + PL would reset you because they don't see any use to it anymore. I would wonder if the mighty Goonswarm including their Sov4 systems could even stand a chance vs AAA and Atlas which have combined 20% less people than you got.
You know what hypocrisy is? The fact that you open your fat mouth as if you'd sit in the driver seat but in reality you sit in the luggage trunk.
A more humble approach for you would be much more appropriate given your situation.
cheers
c0rn1
Had to quote for truth.
Originally by: Phreeze Two things:
Is Krautbreak relevant yet? (outside of scamming moon mats)
Relevant? Doubt it, we are just trying to have fun killing stuff, trying to be relevant sounds too much like work. And if we took part in the moon mining exploit why the hell dont I have any isk?
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kayentelva
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:39:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Vaustrien We are not here to play the same Eve that you play. We are not trying to balance the powers in 0.0. We are not here to make this an enjoyable experience for you, or to give you "good fights". So stop pleading for that. We care little about "being the best". We aren't. We won because you are horrible at Eve.
The internet is a haven for nerds who need to feel dominant in internet spaceships in order to support their fragile real life egos. For them its like being able to join the Marines or Army without having to shed the spare tire around their waist, or worry about consequences when your peers do stupid things causing you to steal a bunch of stuff "just to hold it" in order to prove a point (then giving it back and having them accept you again). Therefore, we will never run out of people to hate, and there will always be delusional ***gots to burn.
While the majority of the failure alliances, corporations, and members we kill simply merge into other failed alliances and corporations like some rusted junkyard Voltron with Downs Syndrome (see Aggression/Atlas/Cult of War/Etc.), a few of these failures actually quit the game. This adds up. We realize this. Our enemies are less powerful than they were before. More so, some of the brighter members of the failure alliances we fight wake up from the cluster**** that is their horrible alliance and then join one of our allies (or just join us after pressing button and disbanding their ****ty alliance).
However, you need not worry. Unless CCP is crafty in devising new ways to allow us to grief this game (psst... this freeform contract thing isn't helping), after clearing 0.0 of more ***gots, we goons will likely try our best to ruin Empire for everybody, eventually get bored, and stop logging in. Then you can strike, claim victory, Sir Molle can say "Patience" blah blah blah.
1. strawman, check 2. red herring, check 3. chestbeating, check 4. homophobic insults, check (uh, moderators ?)
really, who is your post even aimed at ? you made up an audience that doesnt exist and then wasted pixels responding to them
the only ones in this game taking it too seriously are herniaswarm
you just...cant...stop...posting
amirite ?
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Heptameron
Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:40:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Keflin Geard You are lazy, un-ambitious and risk adverse and have been for years. Where have all the insane megalomaniacs gone :(
Wow! If lazy is the equivalent of fighting almost continuously for the last 2 years then guilty as charged...
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VCBee 516
Amarr The Greater Moon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:48:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Keflin Geard
No bitterness just disappointed. The successors to BOB ie NC Goons and PL donĘt have the same desire to make the eve universe burn and create fun and excitement and really wild things. You are lazy, un-ambitious and risk adverse and have been for years. Where have all the insane megalomaniacs gone :(
Mittani is only an insane megalomaniac when you actually have allies to try and rally against him then?
Also, please tell me how sitting docked up in PR- doing nothing while we destroy your empire and then again sitting in 49- while we do the same is not lazy, un-ambitious or risk adverse?
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marxist revolutionary
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:49:00 -
[99]
*abandons all space and runs across the galaxy to headshot bob*
risk averse as heck
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Keflin Geard
Gallente Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:54:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Heptameron
Originally by: Keflin Geard You are lazy, un-ambitious and risk adverse and have been for years. Where have all the insane megalomaniacs gone :(
Wow! If lazy is the equivalent of fighting almost continuously for the last 2 years then guilty as charged...
How many of those fights did you start.
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Richyp
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 13:57:00 -
[101]
Originally by: VCBee 516 Also, please tell me how sitting docked up in PR- doing nothing while we destroy your empire and then again sitting in 49- while we do the same is not lazy, un-ambitious or risk adverse?
That was a show of PATIENCE. Something you risk averse herniaswarm goonies will never understand.
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kayentelva
Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:00:00 -
[102]
Originally by: marxist revolutionary *abandons all space and runs across the galaxy to headshot bob*
risk averse as heck
abandons all space while supported by the most powerful naptrain the game has ever seen and the complete loss of sov for the enemy
yeah, totally risky there dude
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Keflin Geard
Gallente Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:00:00 -
[103]
Originally by: marxist revolutionary *abandons all space and runs across the galaxy to headshot bob*
risk averse as heck
? How could you not go for it after having Delve sov reset - it was your one and only chance - credit to you for taking it - but it was hardly gutsy - not like the good old days when Goons tried to take xzh from D2
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Machine Delta
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:00:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Keflin Geard
Originally by: Phreeze Two things:
Is Krautbreak relevant yet? (outside of scamming moon mats)
and
Lawl bitter ex-BoB. You're just mad that half your membership joined tri looking for :good fights: only to have all their **** camped in yet another npc station.
No bitterness just disappointed. The successors to BOB ie NC Goons and PL donĘt have the same desire to make the eve universe burn and create fun and excitement and really wild things. You are lazy, un-ambitious and risk adverse and have been for years. Where have all the insane megalomaniacs gone :(
Hahahahh dude we uprooted and left all our space behind to come take yours. Guess that doesn't count as taking a risk. Especially when your propaganda the entire time was "lol goonies will be homeless"
Sore loser tbh.
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Venomire
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:15:00 -
[105]
Edited by: Venomire on 30/06/2009 14:15:40
Originally by: Heptameron Wow! If lazy is the equivalent of fighting almost continuously for the last 2 years then guilty as charged...
Well, it doesn't apply to the NC, but works for us.
Originally by: Keflin Geard How many of those fights did you start.
Heh.
We don't start fights. We finish them.
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Heptameron
Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:15:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Keflin Geard
Originally by: Heptameron
Originally by: Keflin Geard You are lazy, un-ambitious and risk adverse and have been for years. Where have all the insane megalomaniacs gone :(
Wow! If lazy is the equivalent of fighting almost continuously for the last 2 years then guilty as charged...
How many of those fights did you start.
Not sure what your point is? You accused us of being lazy and yet we travelled from pretty much the other end of everything TWICE to fight you guys, who were the aggressors. Travelled back home TWICE to react to invaders of our home and of course helped our brosefs to deliver the headshot to your bitter rear.
As far as ambition goes... well being faced by the fearsome GBC in the max campaign, how many other alliances/coalitions would have folded under the weight? Our ambitions may not be quite as arrogant as wiping people from the face of the eve universe or controlling all of 0.0 but to be able to take a chunk of space a few years ago, develop it into our 'home', repel various invasions, then take it to what has been (and kudos to them for it) the most feared alliance in eve for sometime AND beat them... well buddy i'm happy with my lot. Probably can't say the same for you, how's FW working for ya?
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Phreeze
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:23:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Venomire
We don't start fights. We finish them.
QFT
:brofist:
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Keflin Geard
Gallente Black Nova Corp
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:32:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Heptameron
Originally by: Keflin Geard
Originally by: Heptameron
Originally by: Keflin Geard You are lazy, un-ambitious and risk adverse and have been for years. Where have all the insane megalomaniacs gone :(
Wow! If lazy is the equivalent of fighting almost continuously for the last 2 years then guilty as charged...
How many of those fights did you start.
Not sure what your point is? You accused us of being lazy and yet we travelled from pretty much the other end of everything TWICE to fight you guys, who were the aggressors. Travelled back home TWICE to react to invaders of our home and of course helped our brosefs to deliver the headshot to your bitter rear.
As far as ambition goes... well being faced by the fearsome GBC in the max campaign, how many other alliances/coalitions would have folded under the weight? Our ambitions may not be quite as arrogant as wiping people from the face of the eve universe or controlling all of 0.0 but to be able to take a chunk of space a few years ago, develop it into our 'home', repel various invasions, then take it to what has been (and kudos to them for it) the most feared alliance in eve for sometime AND beat them... well buddy i'm happy with my lot. Probably can't say the same for you, how's FW working for ya?
You lost your space twice once to MC then BoB, then jumped on the anti-bob bandwagon twice, lost the first time and won the second. My point is like most NC alliances you arenĘt proactive - you have a lot of members who have been entertained by BoB over the years. Now you have a period where the NC is dominant and has powerful allies around the universe. What are you going to with that?
History suggests you will get fat and do nothing.
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Phreeze
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:45:00 -
[109]
As opposed to your approach, which was to **** everyone in the game off, lose everything, and get kicked out to empire.

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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:50:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Keflin Geard Edited by: Keflin Geard on 30/06/2009 14:38:05
Originally by: Heptameron
Not sure what your point is? You accused us of being lazy and yet we travelled from pretty much the other end of everything TWICE to fight you guys, who were the aggressors. Travelled back home TWICE to react to invaders of our home and of course helped our brosefs to deliver the headshot to your bitter rear.
As far as ambition goes... well being faced by the fearsome GBC in the max campaign, how many other alliances/coalitions would have folded under the weight? Our ambitions may not be quite as arrogant as wiping people from the face of the eve universe or controlling all of 0.0 but to be able to take a chunk of space a few years ago, develop it into our 'home', repel various invasions, then take it to what has been (and kudos to them for it) the most feared alliance in eve for sometime AND beat them... well buddy i'm happy with my lot. Probably can't say the same for you, how's FW working for ya?
You lost your space twice once to MC then BoB, then jumped on the anti-bob bandwagon twice, lost the first time and won the second.
Your track record is screwed. The last time BoB was proactive was when it needed to gather a so proclaimed 400 caps blob that disassembled in Tribute. Are you still under the impression this is 2006 and the only "worthy" opponent was ASCN?
I think you have a different version of proactive that doesn't fit the NC. Just as "good fights".
Originally by: Keflin Geard
History suggests you will get fat and do nothing.
What did the crystal globe suggest for BoB?
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Machine Delta
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:51:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Keflin Geard
You lost your space twice once to MC then BoB, then jumped on the anti-bob bandwagon twice, lost the first time and won the second. My point is like most NC alliances you arenĘt proactive - you have a lot of members who have been entertained by BoB over the years. Now you have a period where the NC is dominant and has powerful allies around the universe. What are you going to do with that?
History suggests you will get fat and do nothing.
Look, its the distant grumbling of an empire corp pubbie.
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Phreeze
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:51:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
What did the crystal globe suggest for BoB?
I believe that was get ****ed and die in a fire.
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Richyp
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 14:53:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Richyp on 30/06/2009 14:53:30
Originally by: Phreeze
Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam
What did the crystal globe suggest for BoB?
I believe that was get ****ed and die in a fire.
I thought they predicted the future not the present :(
EDIT: Oh wait, die in a fire, I read that as lose all space and attempt to save face by finding ~good fights~ in empire.
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Heptameron
Gallente Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:14:00 -
[114]
Edited by: Heptameron on 30/06/2009 15:15:04
Originally by: Keflin Geard You lost your space twice once to MC then BoB, then jumped on the anti-bob bandwagon twice, lost the first time and won the second. My point is like most NC alliances you arenĘt proactive - you have a lot of members who have been entertained by BoB over the years. Now you have a period where the NC is dominant and has powerful allies around the universe. What are you going to do with that?
History suggests you will get fat and do nothing.
hmmm distortion of history ftw huh? Delve MK1... bob employed MC and various other entities to distract us during the campaign and pull us away to Tenal. we lost the majority of our space but were temp housed by MM and took it back in a few weeks once the MC cap blob has pulled out post contract.
BoB then decided on the failure that was MAX and therefore drawing us back into the fight that would have happened anyway eventually... but just as an FYI bob took Deklein mid IRON move back to their own home from DR. Nice timing on their part and of course the famous rotate *spit* tactic did us no favors. But apart from Deklein the GBC managed to get a foothold in M-O and EO only, got nowhere near Tenal at a massive cost before finally being handed the plate to park their a55e5 on. Again GBC being the aggressors the consequence being forcing our hand timewise.
As for history... well if you knew anything about RZR (can't talk on behalf of the rest of the NC) you would know fred0 and his planners insisted we started lean and have kept that way since birth in 5zxx all those years ago. Yes we have grown in size but so has our experience and our reputation. In saying aaaaall of that, everyone knows s**t happens and at some point something will happen somwhere that could spark the end, but hey.. it's just a game amiright?
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Phreeze
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:28:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Heptameron Edited by: Heptameron on 30/06/2009 15:15:04
Originally by: Keflin Geard You lost your space twice once to MC then BoB, then jumped on the anti-bob bandwagon twice, lost the first time and won the second. My point is like most NC alliances you arenĘt proactive - you have a lot of members who have been entertained by BoB over the years. Now you have a period where the NC is dominant and has powerful allies around the universe. What are you going to do with that?
History suggests you will get fat and do nothing.
hmmm distortion of history ftw huh? Delve MK1... bob employed MC and various other entities to distract us during the campaign and pull us away to Tenal. we lost the majority of our space but were temp housed by MM and took it back in a few weeks once the MC cap blob has pulled out post contract.
BoB then decided on the failure that was MAX and therefore drawing us back into the fight that would have happened anyway eventually... but just as an FYI bob took Deklein mid IRON move back to their own home from DR. Nice timing on their part and of course the famous rotate *spit* tactic did us no favors. But apart from Deklein the GBC managed to get a foothold in M-O and EO only, got nowhere near Tenal at a massive cost before finally being handed the plate to park their a55e5 on. Again GBC being the aggressors the consequence being forcing our hand timewise.
As for history... well if you knew anything about RZR (can't talk on behalf of the rest of the NC) you would know fred0 and his planners insisted we started lean and have kept that way since birth in 5zxx all those years ago. Yes we have grown in size but so has our experience and our reputation. In saying aaaaall of that, everyone knows s**t happens and at some point something will happen somwhere that could spark the end, but hey.. it's just a game amiright?
tl:dr
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cheese monkey
Minmatar Caldari Corporation 12345
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:42:00 -
[116]
you are totally wrong! now is the best time to play eve! When there are big wars on no one really hears the real issues. Who else was totally bored of goonz v bob? tbh that war was really gay, i mean balls deep ***gotry!
now is the time we get something new, im looking forward to the future of eve for the first time in a LONG time.
i just hope ccp bring some decent game developments that compliment these changes. a new expansion would be great soon, link it to the end of the war, bring out t3 frigs and battleships. let the sleepers invade delve i say, give goonz a decent fight:p bring back a way to get a few more t2 bpos in game!!
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Shadowsword
Gallente Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:44:00 -
[117]
Edited by: Shadowsword on 30/06/2009 15:45:13
Originally by: c0rn1 Eve is presumably polarised. Whatever you do, the 2 naptrains will try to use the opportunity to kick each other in their nuts. You said this huge pile of naps is for defeating evil BoB and went on a holy crusade. But even though you conquered Jericho, BoB has no space anymore and Corps are leaving, you STILL don't lift any NAPS as long as it serves your purpose. The pure purpose of protecting your acquired possessions.
Seriously, did you expect one superpower to break up when the other one is actively attacking it? You'd have to be a fool.
When there will only be one superpower left, it will break up out of sheer boredom. Alliances need serious fights is they are to keep the ability to fight in the first place, and their leaders are experienced enough to know it. When that happen Eve will become interesting as it hasn't been in years.
But when you have, for example, ROL and ATLAS coming up north at Tri's rescue trying to ambush the NC cap fleet, it only feed the statut quo. Eve will remain tedious and boring as long as one side isn't ground into submission... ------------------------------------------
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Daviclond
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:49:00 -
[118]
Originally by: kayentelva
abandons all space while supported by the most powerful naptrain the game has ever seen and the complete loss of sov for the enemy
yeah, totally risky there dude
at the start of the campaign we were idiots who were going to both lose our old space and fail in conquering delve/q gagaga stupid goonswarm
now we were completely assured victory all along
oh ushra'khan you adorable little scamps
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saangocaste
Gallente Australian Mining and industry Corp Intergalactic Exports Group
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:54:00 -
[119]
After 4 pages in this thread, the only conclusion I have come to is
Razor is a very bitter alliance, someone needs to give them a hug.
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Richyp
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.06.30 15:56:00 -
[120]
Originally by: saangocaste After 4 pages in this thread, the only conclusion I have come to is
Razor is a very bitter alliance, someone needs to give them a hug.
I'm sure they're much happier knowing that the mighty "Intergalactic Exports Group" Alliance is looking out for their feelings.
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