Originally by: Gin G

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nerfing scamming again

making eve a safer place for the WOW idiots and kids you plan to get with your walk in station (eve-WOW) patch

not changing back the old cyno animation after many many threadanaughts about them

whatever next ccp making scamming against the EULA so you can recieve a nice ban for scamming

making salvaging other people wrecks flaggable or impossable

nerfing eve into a piece of **** wow clone that you seem to want it to be

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Originally by: Gin G

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nerfing scamming again

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Originally by: Gin G

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nerfing scamming again

making eve a safer place for the WOW idiots and kids you plan to get with your walk in station (eve-WOW) patch

not changing back the old cyno animation after many many threadanaughts about them

whatever next ccp making scamming against the EULA so you can recieve a nice ban for scamming

making salvaging other people wrecks flaggable or impossable

nerfing eve into a piece of **** wow clone that you seem to want it to be

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Originally by: Gin G

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nerfing scamming again

making eve a safer place for the WOW idiots and kids you plan to get with your walk in station (eve-WOW) patch

not changing back the old cyno animation after many many threadanaughts about them

whatever next ccp making scamming against the EULA so you can recieve a nice ban for scamming

making salvaging other people wrecks flaggable or impossable

nerfing eve into a piece of **** wow clone that you seem to want it to be

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Originally by: Gin G

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nerfing scamming again

making eve a safer place for the WOW idiots and kids you plan to get with your walk in station (eve-WOW) patch

not changing back the old cyno animation after many many threadanaughts about them

whatever next ccp making scamming against the EULA so you can recieve a nice ban for scamming

making salvaging other people wrecks flaggable or impossable

nerfing eve into a piece of **** wow clone that you seem to want it to be

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Originally by: CCP Wrangler

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EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.

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Originally by: Gin G

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there valied points in your attempt to find something smart to say you failed pretty badley

as for jita local well didnt they try to do that in the last patch and look how sucessfull that was i wonder how this will turn out

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Originally by: JamesLaSalle

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I am not sure increasing the reverse engineering copies as much as you did was a good idea. A ten run BPC from a malfunctioning weapon? I could have seen it going to five that would have increased the valuse, but with ten all you are going to do is have a bunch of useless BPC's lying about as I don't see how salvage is going to catch up to need. Not to mention even if it did, all it would do is literally flood the market. I like the rest of this but you went a tad bit overboard with the runs.

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Originally by: xSnowwhitex

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Originally by: Gin G

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there valied points in your attempt to find something smart to say you failed pretty badley

as for jita local well didnt they try to do that in the last patch and look how sucessfull that was i wonder how this will turn out

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i don't recall every trying to find anything smart to say i was just pointing out that you scammers need to reprogramme your macro's after this patch

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Originally by: Kerfira

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Edited by: Kerfira on 29/06/2009 17:12:54

Originally by: Gin G

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nerfing scamming again

making eve a safer place for the WOW idiots and kids you plan to get with your walk in station (eve-WOW) patch

not changing back the old cyno animation after many many threadanaughts about them

whatever next ccp making scamming against the EULA so you can recieve a nice ban for scamming

making salvaging other people wrecks flaggable or impossable

nerfing eve into a piece of **** wow clone that you seem to want it to be

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Freeform contracts were not a good feature as it made scamming not a question of scammer ability, but a question of the victim not knowing the EVE contract mechanics.

This was not a good thing! Now, a scammer will have to WORK for his money! You'll have to sweet-talk the victim into trusting you, and THEN take his money!
This is actually more like how it works in the real world!

Scamming is a great thing in EVE, but success should be dependent on whether you are a good scammer, not whether the victim happen to not know the ins and outs of the contract system!

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Originally by: Miilla

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Edited by: Miilla on 29/06/2009 20:10:50
My overview is not working I see 2 of everything on it. I have to keep resetting it.

Posts keep disappearing on the forum, is that a caching bug?

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Originally by: Braaage

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Edited by: Braaage on 29/06/2009 18:36:01
CCP

Have all the relics the same outcome equation but just give different run BPCs now or does the wrecked still yield less chance of success from the malfunctioning and Intact relics?

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Originally by: Josehpine

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Originally by: Braaage

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Edited by: Braaage on 29/06/2009 18:36:01
CCP

Have all the relics the same outcome equation but just give different run BPCs now or does the wrecked still yield less chance of success from the malfunctioning and Intact relics?

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good quesion. Id like an answer to that too!

from the patch notes it seems they only changed runs and not the chances. I hope they didnt miss to tell in the patch notes.

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Originally by: CCP Fallout

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Update: Apocrypha 1.3.1 will be deployed on Tuesday, June 30, 2009. Additional information can be found here.

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Originally by: Kaylan Jahlar

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Originally by: CCP Fallout

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Update: Apocrypha 1.3.1 will be deployed on Tuesday, June 30, 2009. Additional information can be found here.

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Can we possibly have more details on the content of this quick fix please?

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Originally by: Archa

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The probing system got almost completely destroyed in one your earlier patches and it still isn't fixed.

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Everyone knows that Rough Necks can't probe
But you are totally right. Fixing the probe system should be somewhere in the top 3 on the priority list!

Originally by: Gin G

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nerfing scamming again

making eve a safer place for the WOW idiots and kids you plan to get with your walk in station (eve-WOW) patch

not changing back the old cyno animation after many many threadanaughts about them

whatever next ccp making scamming against the EULA so you can recieve a nice ban for scamming

making salvaging other people wrecks flaggable or impossable

nerfing eve into a piece of **** wow clone that you seem to want it to be

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Originally by: Nisshoku

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Originally by: Gin G

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nerfing scamming again

making eve a safer place for the WOW idiots and kids you plan to get with your walk in station (eve-WOW) patch

not changing back the old cyno animation after many many threadanaughts about them

whatever next ccp making scamming against the EULA so you can recieve a nice ban for scamming.

sidenote: please keep the insults to yourself hmmm?

making salvaging other people wrecks flaggable or impossable

nerfing eve into a piece of **** wow clone that you seem to want it to be

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You're playing a freaking game. Eve is not a ****ing country club. Your "There goes the neighborhood" attitude only makes you look like a jackass.

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Originally by: Archa

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Edited by: Archa on 29/06/2009 16:54:46
Congratulations on a craptastic patch CCP.
For over 5 years I have applauded the hard work you guys have put into this game,
And i'm sure you guys are working hard. But in my oppinion your are completely setting your priorities in the wrong place these days.

The probing system got almost completely destroyed in one your earlier patches and it still isn't fixed.

I hate to say it, but I am utterly disappointed.

Greets
Archa.

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Originally by: Archa

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The probing system got almost completely destroyed in one your earlier patches and it still isn't fixed.

I hate to say it, but I am utterly disappointed.

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Originally by: Archa

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Edited by: Archa on 29/06/2009 16:54:46
Congratulations on a craptastic patch CCP.
For over 5 years I have applauded the hard work you guys have put into this game,
And i'm sure you guys are working hard. But in my oppinion your are completely setting your priorities in the wrong place these days.

The probing system got almost completely destroyed in one your earlier patches and it still isn't fixed.

I hate to say it, but I am utterly disappointed.

Greets
Archa.

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Originally by: Archa

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Edited by: Archa on 29/06/2009 16:54:46
Congratulations on a craptastic patch CCP.
For over 5 years I have applauded the hard work you guys have put into this game,
And i'm sure you guys are working hard. But in my oppinion your are completely setting your priorities in the wrong place these days.

The probing system got almost completely destroyed in one your earlier patches and it still isn't fixed.

I hate to say it, but I am utterly disappointed.

Greets
Archa.

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Originally by: Braaage

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Edited by: Braaage on 29/06/2009 18:36:01
CCP

Have all the relics the same outcome equation but just give different run BPCs now or does the wrecked still yield less chance of success from the malfunctioning and Intact relics?

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Originally by: Carl Mauser

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I would realy be happy to hear, when in the world do you CCP guys plan to fix the fricking sound? Hardeners - they are ANNOYING!.

Thanks

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Originally by: Backdaft

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Edited by: Backdaft on 30/06/2009 05:22:28
CCP I applaud your work on inventory issues. But really, you're all the way up to 1.3 now and you still can't/won't fix the sound bugs? I've been playing EVE for 5 YEARS and until APOC I've never had to turn the sound off. Now I constantly have to turn the sound off to get some relief. You've turned this game's sound into a hidious joke.

So lets compare your work again my check list:
Active shield mods make very loud annoying looping sounds. Fixed? No. CCP FAILS.
Combat sounds still whacked due to active shield mod sounds. Fixed? No. CCP FAILS.
Moving ships make annoying looping sounds. Fixed? NO. CCP FAILS.
Space, especially around stations now makes annoying looping sounds. Fixed? NO. CCP FAILS.
Station looping sound tracks still to friggin' loud. Fixed? No. CCP FAILS.
Obelisk freighters when jumping thru gates can gain a permanent gate hum looping sound that only goes away on reboot. Fixed? No. CCP FAILS.
Separate slider in escape menu to mute looping sounds. No. CCP FAILS.
Added hotkeys to quickly mute and restore game sound. No. CCP FAILS.

Frankly, I'm completely baffled. How can a company do such a great job on everything else and then completely destroy the enjoyability of the game due to poor sound engineering. What's worse, you let this get past your long testing process and then sit live in the game for patch after patch.

FREE US FROM THE TYRANNY OF LOOPING GAME SOUNDS. PLEASE! I'M BEGGIN' YA!

P.S. It would be nice to still get the news on the login page. News went from instantaneous load times to 20 or 30 secs. I usually just give up now and log my char it. Dump the graphics CCP if you have to, but please fix the news.

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Originally by: Backdaft

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Edited by: Backdaft on 30/06/2009 05:22:28
CCP I applaud your work on inventory issues. But really, you're all the way up to 1.3 now and you still can't/won't fix the sound bugs? I've been playing EVE for 5 YEARS and until APOC I've never had to turn the sound off. Now I constantly have to turn the sound off to get some relief. You've turned this game's sound into a hidious joke.

So lets compare your work again my check list:
Active shield mods make very loud annoying looping sounds. Fixed? No. CCP FAILS.
Combat sounds still whacked due to active shield mod sounds. Fixed? No. CCP FAILS.
Moving ships make annoying looping sounds. Fixed? NO. CCP FAILS.
Space, especially around stations now makes annoying looping sounds. Fixed? NO. CCP FAILS.
Station looping sound tracks still to friggin' loud. Fixed? No. CCP FAILS.
Obelisk freighters when jumping thru gates can gain a permanent gate hum looping sound that only goes away on reboot. Fixed? No. CCP FAILS.
Separate slider in escape menu to mute looping sounds. No. CCP FAILS.
Added hotkeys to quickly mute and restore game sound. No. CCP FAILS.

Frankly, I'm completely baffled. How can a company do such a great job on everything else and then completely destroy the enjoyability of the game due to poor sound engineering. What's worse, you let this get past your long testing process and then sit live in the game for patch after patch.

FREE US FROM THE TYRANNY OF LOOPING GAME SOUNDS. PLEASE! I'M BEGGIN' YA!

P.S. It would be nice to still get the news on the login page. News went from instantaneous load times to 20 or 30 secs. I usually just give up now and log my char it. Dump the graphics CCP if you have to, but please fix the news.

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ò Growing up is optional.

Originally by: Lurund

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This thread looks like just another monument to players hating the game creator and staff.
I don't understand why every one seems like it's needed to hate the mods.

Also was wondering if there was any word about when this walking and planet flying patch was going to be implemented. I'm really looking forward to some immersing yet not so ***gety RP.

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Originally by: Allaera

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Originally by: Nisshoku

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Originally by: Gin G

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nerfing scamming again

making eve a safer place for the WOW idiots and kids you plan to get with your walk in station (eve-WOW) patch

not changing back the old cyno animation after many many threadanaughts about them

whatever next ccp making scamming against the EULA so you can recieve a nice ban for scamming.

sidenote: please keep the insults to yourself hmmm?

making salvaging other people wrecks flaggable or impossable

nerfing eve into a piece of **** wow clone that you seem to want it to be

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You're playing a freaking game. Eve is not a ****ing country club. Your "There goes the neighborhood" attitude only makes you look like a jackass.

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Exactly, couldn't agree more on the bolded part.

However, the way things are going with certain implementations over the last few years, EvE IS is turning into "a ****ing country club".

Can flipping - nerfed
Suicide ganking - nerfed
Shooting gang members from a different corp - nerfed
Many more....

Risk is diminishing, reward is increasing. Doesn't sound like the "cold, harsh place" CCP professes EvE to be anymore.

sidenote: please keep the insults to yourself. A litte civility thank you

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Originally by: Taradis

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That's becuz CareBear tears mean a lot more to CCP then they used to waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I want WOW in space C thanks you care bear ****s with your carebear stare, stareing into the forums and makin the devs read your pointless babble. You want WoW in space, Spam blizzards forums to create an Orc capapble of surviving in space this is Eve. I for one like that it's harsh yea i get mad when i get ganked but you don't c me *****ing on the forums like half the ****ing population now. Care bears need to talk to Dr. Phil not ***** on the EvE-O forums cuz you won't get a shred of sympathy from here.

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Quote:

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Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done

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The probing system got almost completely destroyed in one your earlier patches and it still isn't fixed.

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4) I think people are over stating the probing bugs. Yah, they are annoying, but anyone who does a lot of scanning isn't bothered too much by them, and the new system is a vastly better system than the old one. (can you even imagine waiting over 120 seconds for EACH SCAN anymore?) ...plus the new system looks way cooler, if I may say so.

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Originally by: Maxsim Goratiev

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Edited by: Maxsim Goratiev on 30/06/2009 11:00:33

Quote:

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The probing system got almost completely destroyed in one your earlier patches and it still isn't fixed.

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Probing system is fine for those who can probe. Learn to probe people, i know it's more complicated then clicking one button as it was before.

Quote:

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4) I think people are over stating the probing bugs. Yah, they are annoying, but anyone who does a lot of scanning isn't bothered too much by them, and the new system is a vastly better system than the old one. (can you even imagine waiting over 120 seconds for EACH SCAN anymore?) ...plus the new system looks way cooler, if I may say so.

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Exactly, i have to scan almost every day i am online, and i have no problems with it whatsoever.

good patch CCP

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Originally by: Ratchman

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I have to say this, because I just read the thread, and most of the posts are whines, rather than comments.

Do you honestly think CCP are going to listen to you if you chide and deride them? Is insulting people an effective way of getting what you want? All you do with this mindless whining is make the developers think: "we can't win no matter what we do", and therefore they become demotivated, and less is done as a result.

If you feel that something is not working, please argue your point in a constructive way. Put forward your reasons why you feel it isn't working, but do so calmly and politely. Don't rant and nerdrage in the way that seems to be so common. It just shows social ineptitude.

I have issues with the Factional Warfare lag, but I do try to express my issues without resorting to the kind of childish tantrums I so often see. I know these things take time, but I also appreciate that it helps the developer to get accurate feedback. Whining like children in the fits of a temper tantrum is not conducive to that.

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Originally by: Angel Eye

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The only thing that bothers me
is that ccp released the game with atari
and brought +- 80% more highsec pirates in then there
where before. now its about 75% chance that youre salvage is stolen
before you can get to it youreself.

i am rly ****ed about this
some one taking youre stuff while you work for it
and pay ammo for is stealing in my
books.

Change that instead of other crap that ppl dont care about !

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Originally by: El Coronel

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i like the current probing system, far better than the old one, but please change the look of the probe bubbles. once one has closed a bit the scanning range and grouped the probes a bit its very dificult to even see the probe boxes let alone finding the arrows to move them

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Originally by: Angel Eye

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The only thing that bothers me
is that ccp released the game with atari
and brought +- 80% more highsec pirates in then there
where before. now its about 75% chance that youre salvage is stolen
before you can get to it youreself.

i am rly ****ed about this
some one taking youre stuff while you work for it
and pay ammo for is stealing in my
books.

Change that instead of other crap that ppl dont care about !

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Originally by: Maxsim Goratiev

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Edited by: Maxsim Goratiev on 30/06/2009 11:00:33
Probing system is fine for those who can probe. Learn to probe people, i know it's more complicated then clicking one button as it was before.

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Originally by: Nitrocloud

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I'm not sure, but I think the problem they're talking about is that the probing system stops the client from rendering. When the probes are moving, whether being retrieved or sent to scan, the client fails to render frames anymore. This was not a problem in 1.0, but showed up I think in 1.1 patch and has not been fixed yet. The probing system uses too much in the way of resources now and is a pain to use. I have used probing for a long time, but it's annoying when your client locks up for 5-6 seconds every time you scan and even longer when the probes have to move farther.

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Originally by: Dungheap

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lose the 'honeycomb' effect on the probe bubbles, and the dark shadow on the solar plane. the mechanics i can learn and deal with but being unable to see the probes makes it near impossible in many systems.

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Originally by: Gin G

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Originally by: xSnowwhitex

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Originally by: Gin G

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there valied points in your attempt to find something smart to say you failed pretty badley

as for jita local well didnt they try to do that in the last patch and look how sucessfull that was i wonder how this will turn out

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i don't recall every trying to find anything smart to say i was just pointing out that you scammers need to reprogramme your macro's after this patch

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so now your accusing me if using a macro and being a scammer thanks a bundle

also no one going to comment on the cyno effect

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Originally by: Nisshoku

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Originally by: Gin G

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Eve is not a ****ing country club.

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This

Originally by: Pigeon Racer

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Originally by: Nisshoku

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Originally by: Gin G

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Eve is not a ****ing country club.

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This

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Originally by: Vilgan i'Lakin

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Originally by: Archa

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Edited by: Archa on 29/06/2009 16:54:46
Congratulations on a craptastic patch CCP.
For over 5 years I have applauded the hard work you guys have put into this game,
And i'm sure you guys are working hard. But in my oppinion your are completely setting your priorities in the wrong place these days.

The probing system got almost completely destroyed in one your earlier patches and it still isn't fixed.

I hate to say it, but I am utterly disappointed.

Greets
Archa.

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I, too, agree with the sentiments here. Wtf. Revert and/or fix the probing stuff. #1 for me is the difficulty seeing probes with craptastic semi-opaque bubbles we got stuck with.

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Originally by: Abrazzar

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Edited by: Abrazzar on 30/06/2009 12:40:40

Originally by: Angel Eye

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The only thing that bothers me
is that ccp released the game with atari
and brought +- 80% more highsec pirates in then there
where before. now its about 75% chance that youre salvage is stolen
before you can get to it youreself.

i am rly ****ed about this
some one taking youre stuff while you work for it
and pay ammo for is stealing in my
books.

Change that instead of other crap that ppl dont care about !

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I never had anyone enter my mission and start salvaging in my whole career ever. You are definitely in a place where you are exposing yourself to this activity and as such can be considered your own damn fault.

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Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Originally by: Vilgan i'Lakin

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Originally by: Archa

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Edited by: Archa on 29/06/2009 16:54:46
Congratulations on a craptastic patch CCP.
For over 5 years I have applauded the hard work you guys have put into this game,
And i'm sure you guys are working hard. But in my oppinion your are completely setting your priorities in the wrong place these days.

The probing system got almost completely destroyed in one your earlier patches and it still isn't fixed.

I hate to say it, but I am utterly disappointed.

Greets
Archa.

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I, too, agree with the sentiments here. Wtf. Revert and/or fix the probing stuff. #1 for me is the difficulty seeing probes with craptastic semi-opaque bubbles we got stuck with.

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I have never understood this complaint. The probing bubbles are fine, I can see through them normally on my PC, even when I have them overlapping. Perhaps it's your video card/display that's craptastic?

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Originally by: Lylian

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So no one else experienced that the torpedos got a big speed/range nerf??
Even the Javelins the Advanced Long Range Torpedoes got a biiig nerf, their range is almost halved so WTF???
25km range for a LONG RANGE torpedo?
Congratulations they are completely useless now just like a lot of other weapons and ships in game...

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Originally by: Lylian

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Short range? I mean 25km effective range for Javeling with maxed skills with a CNR and i forgot to mention that they cant hit a moving target even with 2 painters...
Another 20days of training for CRAP and CCP didnt even write that into the patch note.

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Originally by: Col Eraser

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Hey I just wanted to let you all know what I think of the way that we now do new characters. I think that not being able to choose your career (like the old versions) puts new players at even more of a disadvantage because when I started a while ago I was able to pick a character that had a lot of skill points and a lot of skills already completed and even some skills already at level 5. Well I think that the older players have an even more of an advantage over new players now because of this. I recently decided to open another account that I was gonna pay for but I don't want to do that because I don't have no damn skills. So maybe I don't understand maybe they give you skills later but I think that having a bunch of skills when you start is way nicer than having to spend a lot of time catching up to everybody else. So I just wanted to let you know my input. Thanks

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Originally by: Lylian

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Short range? I mean 25km effective range for Javeling with maxed skills with a CNR and i forgot to mention that they cant hit a moving target even with 2 painters...
Another 20days of training for CRAP and CCP didnt even write that into the patch note.

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Originally by: De'Veldrin

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Originally by: Vilgan i'Lakin

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Originally by: Archa

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Edited by: Archa on 29/06/2009 16:54:46
Congratulations on a craptastic patch CCP.
For over 5 years I have applauded the hard work you guys have put into this game,
And i'm sure you guys are working hard. But in my oppinion your are completely setting your priorities in the wrong place these days.

The probing system got almost completely destroyed in one your earlier patches and it still isn't fixed.

I hate to say it, but I am utterly disappointed.

Greets
Archa.

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I, too, agree with the sentiments here. Wtf. Revert and/or fix the probing stuff. #1 for me is the difficulty seeing probes with craptastic semi-opaque bubbles we got stuck with.

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I have never understood this complaint. The probing bubbles are fine, I can see through them normally on my PC, even when I have them overlapping. Perhaps it's your video card/display that's craptastic?

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Originally by: Tavis Guildstern

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EvE have sound, or do you mean this

Rumbelbumbel warping sound that is so loud if you use Teamspeax or Vent you can't here anything?

Oh yes sound is disabel i belive since "cold war".
sadly if i ever want to use evevoice i think i have turn it on.

-no evevoice

but we can now buy the evemusic on itunes.
That had a higher demand on the side on ccp,
but we should be greatfull that CCP chosed RealX and his "GREAT" music. (sarcasum)

But to write it, in a software as complex as EvE there are always errors in it and parts some people don't like.
So it is nice to know somethings don't change in EvE.

"Never play on patching day."

But most of the times ccp do a good job.
Okay the sometimes love themself a bit to much.
( "We do that not because it runs badly or we need it to do we do it because we love the code." )
Quote of the question why they have startet the need for speed thing.

But after a few day's EvE runs smoothly.

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Originally by: Lylian

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... Torp stuff ...

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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon

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Originally by: Taradis

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That's becuz CareBear tears mean a lot more to CCP then they used to waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I want WOW in space C thanks you care bear ****s with your carebear stare, stareing into the forums and makin the devs read your pointless babble. You want WoW in space, Spam blizzards forums to create an Orc capapble of surviving in space this is Eve. I for one like that it's harsh yea i get mad when i get ganked but you don't c me *****ing on the forums like half the ****ing population now. Care bears need to talk to Dr. Phil not ***** on the EvE-O forums cuz you won't get a shred of sympathy from here.

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and I thought my english and grammar is horrible. CCP, please nerf this person more.

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Originally by: Gin G

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nerfing scamming again

making eve a safer place for the WOW idiots and kids you plan to get with your walk in station (eve-WOW) patch

not changing back the old cyno animation after many many threadanaughts about them

whatever next ccp making scamming against the EULA so you can recieve a nice ban for scamming

making salvaging other people wrecks flaggable or impossable

nerfing eve into a piece of **** wow clone that you seem to want it to be

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Originally by: Zeko Rena

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Originally by: Gin G

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nerfing scamming again

making eve a safer place for the WOW idiots and kids you plan to get with your walk in station (eve-WOW) patch

not changing back the old cyno animation after many many threadanaughts about them

whatever next ccp making scamming against the EULA so you can recieve a nice ban for scamming

making salvaging other people wrecks flaggable or impossable

nerfing eve into a piece of **** wow clone that you seem to want it to be

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Oh no!

Your going to actually have to learn how to play the game and make isk now :O

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Originally by: Vagilicious

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Originally by: Tavis Guildstern

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EvE have sound, or do you mean this

Rumbelbumbel warping sound that is so loud if you use Teamspeax or Vent you can't here anything?

Oh yes sound is disabel i belive since "cold war".
sadly if i ever want to use evevoice i think i have turn it on.

-no evevoice

but we can now buy the evemusic on itunes.
That had a higher demand on the side on ccp,
but we should be greatfull that CCP chosed RealX and his "GREAT" music. (sarcasum)

But to write it, in a software as complex as EvE there are always errors in it and parts some people don't like.
So it is nice to know somethings don't change in EvE.

"Never play on patching day."

But most of the times ccp do a good job.
Okay the sometimes love themself a bit to much.
( "We do that not because it runs badly or we need it to do we do it because we love the code." )
Quote of the question why they have startet the need for speed thing.

But after a few day's EvE runs smoothly.

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IMO Using Vent/Teamspeak is cheating.

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Originally by: Vagilicious

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Originally by: Tavis Guildstern

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EvE have sound, or do you mean this

Rumbelbumbel warping sound that is so loud if you use Teamspeax or Vent you can't here anything?

Oh yes sound is disabel i belive since "cold war".
sadly if i ever want to use evevoice i think i have turn it on.

-no evevoice

but we can now buy the evemusic on itunes.
That had a higher demand on the side on ccp,
but we should be greatfull that CCP chosed RealX and his "GREAT" music. (sarcasum)

But to write it, in a software as complex as EvE there are always errors in it and parts some people don't like.
So it is nice to know somethings don't change in EvE.

"Never play on patching day."

But most of the times ccp do a good job.
Okay the sometimes love themself a bit to much.
( "We do that not because it runs badly or we need it to do we do it because we love the code." )
Quote of the question why they have startet the need for speed thing.

But after a few day's EvE runs smoothly.

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IMO Using Vent/Teamspeak is cheating.

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òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò òòò
ò Growing old is mandatory.
ò Growing up is optional.

Originally by: Mace Wingate

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Originally by: Vagilicious

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Originally by: Tavis Guildstern

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EvE have sound, or do you mean this

Rumbelbumbel warping sound that is so loud if you use Teamspeax or Vent you can't here anything?

Oh yes sound is disabel i belive since "cold war".
sadly if i ever want to use evevoice i think i have turn it on.

-no evevoice

but we can now buy the evemusic on itunes.
That had a higher demand on the side on ccp,
but we should be greatfull that CCP chosed RealX and his "GREAT" music. (sarcasum)

But to write it, in a software as complex as EvE there are always errors in it and parts some people don't like.
So it is nice to know somethings don't change in EvE.

"Never play on patching day."

But most of the times ccp do a good job.
Okay the sometimes love themself a bit to much.
( "We do that not because it runs badly or we need it to do we do it because we love the code." )
Quote of the question why they have startet the need for speed thing.

But after a few day's EvE runs smoothly.

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IMO Using Vent/Teamspeak is cheating.

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So in your version of the future people still have to type out everything on a keyboard?

You do understand that they are really the same as EVE Voice only better in terms of features at the very least yes?

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Originally by: Riessa Mc'Neil

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Originally by: Col Eraser

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Hey I just wanted to let you all know what I think of the way that we now do new characters. I think that not being able to choose your career (like the old versions) puts new players at even more of a disadvantage because when I started a while ago I was able to pick a character that had a lot of skill points and a lot of skills already completed and even some skills already at level 5. Well I think that the older players have an even more of an advantage over new players now because of this. I recently decided to open another account that I was gonna pay for but I don't want to do that because I don't have no damn skills. So maybe I don't understand maybe they give you skills later but I think that having a bunch of skills when you start is way nicer than having to spend a lot of time catching up to everybody else. So I just wanted to let you know my input. Thanks

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I guess you didn't notice the change to the speed at which you train skills. You know train skills at twice the normal speed untill you hit 2 Million I believe then you slow down to the normal rate. This was done so people could choose which skills they wanted to take the time to learn rather than handing them a preset list which may include skills they don't want or care about.

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Originally by: Rata Nrnima

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Originally by: Riessa Mc'Neil

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Originally by: Col Eraser

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Hey I just wanted to let you all know what I think of the way that we now do new characters. I think that not being able to choose your career (like the old versions) puts new players at even more of a disadvantage because when I started a while ago I was able to pick a character that had a lot of skill points and a lot of skills already completed and even some skills already at level 5. Well I think that the older players have an even more of an advantage over new players now because of this. I recently decided to open another account that I was gonna pay for but I don't want to do that because I don't have no damn skills. So maybe I don't understand maybe they give you skills later but I think that having a bunch of skills when you start is way nicer than having to spend a lot of time catching up to everybody else. So I just wanted to let you know my input. Thanks

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I guess you didn't notice the change to the speed at which you train skills. You know train skills at twice the normal speed untill you hit 2 Million I believe then you slow down to the normal rate. This was done so people could choose which skills they wanted to take the time to learn rather than handing them a preset list which may include skills they don't want or care about.

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Whoa! It is 1.6 million sp. The significant loss of start up sp's extends the time sink of this game by 1/2 year minimum! I started a new character after this "new change" and it sux!

Why in the world are you concentrating on a NEW Patch before you fix the one released in March???? You took a great idea, let it work for a few weeks and through various patches destroyed it? Why? This makes absolutely no sense, like we aren't going to notice the f'ed up condition of the game, you just keep piling crap on top of, messing with boats we already trained for, etc.

This sux

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there valied points in your attempt to find something smart to say you failed pretty badley

as for jita local well didnt they try to do that in the last patch and look how sucessfull that was i wonder how this will turn out

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Originally by: Rivqua

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Originally by: Rata Nrnima

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Originally by: Riessa Mc'Neil

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Originally by: Col Eraser

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Hey I just wanted to let you all know what I think of the way that we now do new characters. I think that not being able to choose your career (like the old versions) puts new players at even more of a disadvantage because when I started a while ago I was able to pick a character that had a lot of skill points and a lot of skills already completed and even some skills already at level 5. Well I think that the older players have an even more of an advantage over new players now because of this. I recently decided to open another account that I was gonna pay for but I don't want to do that because I don't have no damn skills. So maybe I don't understand maybe they give you skills later but I think that having a bunch of skills when you start is way nicer than having to spend a lot of time catching up to everybody else. So I just wanted to let you know my input. Thanks

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I guess you didn't notice the change to the speed at which you train skills. You know train skills at twice the normal speed untill you hit 2 Million I believe then you slow down to the normal rate. This was done so people could choose which skills they wanted to take the time to learn rather than handing them a preset list which may include skills they don't want or care about.

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Whoa! It is 1.6 million sp. The significant loss of start up sp's extends the time sink of this game by 1/2 year minimum! I started a new character after this "new change" and it sux!

Why in the world are you concentrating on a NEW Patch before you fix the one released in March???? You took a great idea, let it work for a few weeks and through various patches destroyed it? Why? This makes absolutely no sense, like we aren't going to notice the f'ed up condition of the game, you just keep piling crap on top of, messing with boats we already trained for, etc.

This sux

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Actually, math has proven that you gain alot more time compared to the old system. The double training speed coupled with the fact that you get through your learning skills in a jiffy, means you are actually training extremly well comming out of the double speed.

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Originally by: Kahran Ramesus

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Edited by: Kahran Ramesus on 03/07/2009 06:47:10
Written by Gin G:

Quote:

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there valied points in your attempt to find something smart to say you failed pretty badley

as for jita local well didnt they try to do that in the last patch and look how sucessfull that was i wonder how this will turn out

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Oh my god, the irony in the above statement is absolutely overwhelming.

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Originally by: Gin G

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Originally by: Kahran Ramesus

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Edited by: Kahran Ramesus on 03/07/2009 06:47:10
Written by Gin G:

Quote:

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there valied points in your attempt to find something smart to say you failed pretty badley

as for jita local well didnt they try to do that in the last patch and look how sucessfull that was i wonder how this will turn out

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Oh my god, the irony in the above statement is absolutely overwhelming.

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the amount of idiots whining and crying about my comments/feedback is quite amazing you idiots even go so far as to eve mail me your tears on a silver platter

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Originally by: Punishaa

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Neurovisual input matrix droprates do not appear to have increased as stated in the patch notes. Unlike datacores which saw immediate increases in volume daily jita trade of neurovisuals is almost the same as it was pre patch. All the extra BPCs are nice but without this bottleneck material T3 prices will remain high. Is this issue being looked into and when can we expect it to be addressed?

Remember that unless 54 neurovisual input matrix are dropped for every "rare" blue salvage it will continue to be the bottleneck.

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