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Atran Drake
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Posted - 2009.11.01 05:53:00 -
[151]
Hell yeah |
Raimo
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.01 07:28:00 -
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Originally by: Suitonia Need to be careful when comparing Light Neutron II to Rocket Launcher II.
Light Neutron II CPU: 19, PG: 10.
Rocket Launcher II CPU: 17, PG: 4.
If Rocket launchers shared a similar relationship with Standard Missiles, like Torpedos do with Cruise launchers when it comes to fitting then I'd completely agree with your damage increase proposal.
yes, it needs to be balance. The rockets still deserve a proper looking at. Join RvB!
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Pan Dora
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.11.01 19:34:00 -
[153]
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I like to play this game because it make my in-game actions and archievments to mean something in-game. |
Alfons Richthofen
Die Luftwaffe
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Posted - 2009.11.02 10:15:00 -
[154]
I signed this so hard. I hope I can fly the vengeance soon without using blasters.
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Mohenna
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Posted - 2009.11.02 10:45:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal this issue was raised and passed like... 6 weeks ago? It'll be brought up with CCP in september.
How did this go?
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Alfons Richthofen
Caldari Die Luftwaffe
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Posted - 2009.11.02 12:36:00 -
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I read this rocket fix... I am disappoint... Rockets will hit for full damage, yes... But that full damage STILL won't be near the full damage output of any rival ship. Please don't just increase explosion velocity but increase the damage or rate of fire!
"This is mainly due to their low explosion velocity (85m/s), while rockets are almost always fit to frigate sized ships and used to fire at (fast moving) frigate sized targets. " No it's due to their garbage damage/rate of fire (DPS).
If I can hit another assault ship with 70 dps using rockets, while it's hitting me with 230 with almost the same tank as me, how f***ing fair is that?
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Raimo
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.02 17:39:00 -
[157]
Well, a bit of max damage could/ should be added but not much unless the fitting is upped. Also remember the range, it shouldn't overpower Barrage AC's or Scorch Pulses. Join RvB!
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Tiny Montgomery
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Posted - 2009.11.02 19:22:00 -
[158]
Would love to see an actual rocket barrage in game.
IMO, Rockets should be:
Short(ish) range Very high rate of fire High capacity clip
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.11.04 12:59:00 -
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bump for great justice
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yani dumyat
Minmatar Black Storm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.11.04 14:23:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Alfons Richthofen I read this rocket fix... I am disappoint... Rockets will hit for full damage, yes... But that full damage STILL won't be near the full damage output of any rival ship. Please don't just increase explosion velocity but increase the damage or rate of fire!
"This is mainly due to their low explosion velocity (85m/s), while rockets are almost always fit to frigate sized ships and used to fire at (fast moving) frigate sized targets. " No it's due to their garbage damage/rate of fire (DPS).
If I can hit another assault ship with 70 dps using rockets, while it's hitting me with 230 with almost the same tank as me, how f***ing fair is that?
QFT
Even if the Ev and Er on rockets is fixed they'll still be pretty fail.
I'd be happy to leave them as they are now but double the damage as this makes for a far more interesting weapon that would do high damage but only in the right situation.
Simply changing them to a weapon what does low damage but will inflict it every hit does not make interesting gameplay or promote teamwork. _________________________________________________ Lifeboat ----> + Human |
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Arcane Azmadi
Caldari First Flying Wing Inc Primary.
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Posted - 2009.12.02 22:17:00 -
[161]
<sigh> Bumping AGAIN.
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Shingorash
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Posted - 2009.12.03 02:11:00 -
[162]
Bumping again, Caldari Navy Hookbill now has 3 launchers which is all I ever wanted for Christmas, problem is ROCKETS STILL SUCK!
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Krystal Flores
Sinister Elite
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Posted - 2009.12.03 07:28:00 -
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Rockets need a fix, they are 'sposed to be anti frig missiles but they fail for this. AF are fun to fly but you only are gonna pick a missile one up if you are gonna kill something much bigger in a fleet.
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Arcane Azmadi
Caldari First Flying Wing Inc Primary.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 23:24:00 -
[164]
Bump.
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Comari Vokha
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Posted - 2009.12.10 19:49:00 -
[165]
100% support, /me buys every hawk in the universe to be ready when they do this
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Arcane Azmadi
Caldari First Flying Wing Inc Primary.
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Posted - 2009.12.13 11:29:00 -
[166]
Bump again.
Now with 110 supports!
Anything happening yet?
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Patri Andari
Thukker Tribe Antiquities Importer
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Posted - 2009.12.13 18:07:00 -
[167]
Patri
I'll Roshambo you for that Titan? |
Ahab Keat
Vault - Tek
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Posted - 2009.12.13 20:50:00 -
[168]
support!
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yani dumyat
Minmatar Black Storm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.14 15:43:00 -
[169]
Over 5 months since the thread started
Any of the new CSM like to heed a lonely cry from the wilderness to save our rockets? _________________________________________________ Lifeboat ----> + Human |
De'Veldrin
Special Projects Executive The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.14 15:52:00 -
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Please boost roflkets and make them actually worthwhile.
Or remove them from the game, one of the two. --Vel
In the world of emoticons, I was colon capital d. |
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Killmeded
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Posted - 2009.12.14 17:17:00 -
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When will this problem be addressed ? ? ? support 100%
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Ocerdyn
Apolitical
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Posted - 2009.12.14 18:09:00 -
[172]
Boost Roxits.
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Arcane Azmadi
Caldari First Flying Wing Inc Primary.
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Posted - 2009.12.15 11:31:00 -
[173]
Keep it on the top page, people!
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Arcane Azmadi
Caldari First Flying Wing Inc Primary.
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Posted - 2009.12.30 02:50:00 -
[174]
How many times am I going to have to bump this? This time I go away on holiday and come back to find it on page 7!
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Cearain
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Posted - 2009.12.31 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: Gypsio III
Originally by: Carcosa Hali
Originally by: Gypsio III Edited by: Gypsio III on 16/07/2009 08:16:54
Low base DPS. Excessive fitting requirements. Hawk having less DPS than a Kestrel.
I believe that says it all, really.
That's really a Hawk issue, tbh. The real problem with rockets is to do with the metagame. Rockets are basically ok in terms of the % damage dealt to a webbed, scrambled target - they'll do full damage, or something vaguely close to it. The problem is the "webbed and scrambled" bit.
It requires that you fit a web, which many frigates don't have the slots to do, and it requires that your frigate target is not afterburning, which many frigates do, particuarly AFs. To this you can add low base damage and excessive fittings for that damage.
Then the Hawk suffers even further with a horrible non-Caldari shield boost bonus and doubly horrible CPU. All while having less base DPS than a Kestrel.
I agree with this guy the hawk needs a boost. But rockets? Well ok a small boost would be good. But the thing is rockets have low fitting requirements and can hit from much further out than blasters. They definitely have purpose. They are essentially a damage boost mod for most ships. The ships that have them as an intended primary weapon need the boost but not so much rockets in general. A rocket kestrel is a strong frig and can put out very good damage if you fit a web. The problem is if you fit a web you have no prop mod.
Rockets: Very good range Very good fitting Low damage No cap Always hit
Look at fitting rockets like they are just a damage mod then I think you will see they arenĘt so bad. I fit rockets on most of my pvp frigs.
I never use standard missiles for pvp though. IMO they really suck.
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nifty sunrunner
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Posted - 2010.01.02 13:10:00 -
[176]
She called my rocket pathetic
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Zachary Sikorsky
Sikorsky Trading
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Posted - 2010.01.09 07:26:00 -
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[√] Yes
Also can't help supporting the original OP seven pages back about the statement:
Originally by: yani dumyat
At some point CCP needs to decide if rockets should be high damage with high damage reduction or low damage with low damage reduction.
Yes, first one should be all unguided missiles the latter one all guided missiles.
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yani dumyat
Minmatar Pixie Cats
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Posted - 2010.01.14 05:23:00 -
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Armies of the dead did rise and 'to the rocket launchers' people did cry, One by one the rockets failed and the dead rose more and more to the people's peril.
There was but one sicko who in pleasure cried and moaned that crappy rockets were his fetish born, To see the poor people die for want of some dps was but feastings for his flagellant sack.
Tis an unfortunate story of truth that rockets are no match for zombies, space ships or poofs. To the flagellant who wishes us such pain i wish you herpes, gonorrhea and something nasty with a cheese grater.
All respect to the devs, pls take in good humour as eve is a great game.
pls fix rockets though
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.01.14 07:08:00 -
[179]
-Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Koronakesh
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.01.14 13:09:00 -
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