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Cypherous Minmatar Liberty Rogues Rally Against Evil	Posted - 2009.07.19 14:57:00 - [31] Originally by: Joe Does CCP have any interest in more moderators in the 'deadhours' of 02:00 gmt to 10:00 gmt, when all the nekkid pics of dudes get posted in the forums? I must have missed these pics please save them for me >.>
No Homo Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.07.19 15:03:00 - [32] You have to be a Freemason to be hired by CCP. Its true, Mitnal told me.
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.07.19 15:46:00 - [33] Grumbels about current job and not being able to leave. Man if I was in a position to make games id be dangerous breaking standards and run of the mill generes. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 17JUL09
Pepsicor Caldari State Protectorate	Posted - 2009.07.19 16:23:00 - [34] Edited by: Pepsicor on 19/07/2009 16:25:30
Armoured C Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.19 17:16:00 - [35] Man i would love to be the deadhours forum mod ^_^. Since i dont sleep much and well stay up then anyway. You guys defiently need a out of hours mod though. Pick me o/ i am a highly qualified forum goer =). I have only been banned for like 18 days once for spamming. o/ o/ o/
Hon Kovell Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.07.19 17:43:00 - [36] Originally by: Foodpimp ummm....off hand.... I'd say the same way you apply for any other job. Build a resume, lie about your experience and work history, create a generic cover letter stating that since the day you were born you wanted to work for a company that operates an MMO. Sigh...what else....ummmmmm....wait six months to find out that there were 200 other applicants vying for the same two open spots with much better fake resumes....and all 200 of those people actually lived in the country of Iceland. Give up in despair. Procure a position teaching 7th grade social studies in a Mississippi public school. Become depressed, fat, go bald....then finally die. Building a resume is so old school. It's all automated key word searches now. You scan related jobs for common words and use those in your application. Then use a thesaurus to look up related words and add those. Then add the usual mix of HR-speak pseudo-words. There's no need to waste time on content. If you get a response back immediately you're also safe to use a dictionary search and keep re-sending with random words until it gets in. If you get no response at all it's probably a human who likes to torture applicants by not responding. In which case you're also safe to keep re-sending with random words. Since they care so little about doing their job they'll probably be happy to let you in if it makes the job aps stop.
Trathen Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.19 20:58:00 - [37] The high-unemployment rate bitterness is strong here. No, you weren't treated unfairly, they just found someone better. _
Nova Fox Gallente Novafox Shipyards	Posted - 2009.07.19 21:04:00 - [38] Originally by: Trathen The high-unemployment rate bitterness is strong here. No, you weren't treated unfairly, they just found someone better. Or that you where overly qualified for the job, a growing trend lately in job rejections. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 17JUL09

CCP Lemur	Posted - 2009.07.19 21:55:00 - [39] Edited by: CCP Lemur on 19/07/2009 21:57:23 Originally by: Ptarmigent Edited by: Ptarmigent on 18/07/2009 22:08:26 Hey soundwave, thanks for responding. I'm looking for information about what someone with a family can do about working in Iceland. My wifes a Nurse and I've got a primary school aged daughter, would there be opportunities for them over there ? If you can't respond here, is there someone I can email, send me an eve-mail if you don't want to post the information here. There was a similar question posted over at Iceland Review a while ago (keep in mind the article and numbers are outdated, especially the wage conversion). With the financial crisis and all many jobs are scarce. The educational system here is rather good and there is also an international school in the greater Reykjavik area. Maybe this helps you on your quest for information.

Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2009.07.19 23:15:00 - [40] As a recent computer science graduate, I've been going through the same questions. I've had some interviewing experience and have been given some helpful advice on applying to companies by my university's careers department. Hope some of this helps: Most IT companies use the same traditional hiring process. They list jobs on their websites or hiring agencies, then you apply through that with a brief resume or CV if you're interested. How each company goes about discarding inappropriate applications and shortlisting people for interview varies. In general, companies shortlist people for in-person interviews if your background, skills, interests, grades and awards etc are all relevant to the position you're applying for. Don't hold your breath after applying as some companies take AGES to get back to you and most won't even tell you that you've been rejected. If you do get shortlisted, the type of interviews and tests you'll be put through depend on what the company you're applying to use. Some companies just give you one short interview but game design and programming are very competitive fields so expect some intensive interviewing and probably some testing. One of the main things an interview is used for is to make sure you're not trying to "big up" yourself and pad your CV/resume. Lying on a CV can be easily detected at interview if the company you're applying for has any sense (which I imagine CCP does). Another big reason for interviews is that the cost of hiring the wrong employee or hiring someone into an inappropriate position within a company is estimated at approximately three times their salary. Hiring someone is a significant investment that the company needs to be absolutely sure on to limit financial risk. After you finish an interview with a company, my top tip would be not to hold your breath waiting for a response. I know what it's like when you have to put various parts of your life on hold while waiting for a company to get back to you. I actually missed out getting a year of professional experience with my degree because I waited for Microsoft to respond before applying to others. They didn't reply at all and I left my applications for other companies too late. It can be months before a company gets back to you and many won't let you know that you've been turned down. They will sometimes just keep your CV on file in case they need to go into a hiring frenzy later and create a new position you'd be good for. But given the current economic climate, I don't see that happening as a lot of companies are currently going into hiring freezes. Applying for jobs and being rejected can be absolutely soul destroying but hiring an employee is a big cost risk to companies so rejection shouldn't be taken personally. Just keep applying to companies you want to work for and see what happens. EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Ptarmigent Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.20 00:51:00 - [41] Originally by: CCP Lemur There was a similar question posted over at Iceland Review a while ago (keep in mind the article and numbers are outdated, especially the wage conversion). With the financial crisis and all many jobs are scarce. The educational system here is rather good and there is also an international school in the greater Reykjavik area. Maybe this helps you on your quest for information. Thanks for those links Lemur! When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.
Armoured C Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.07.20 00:59:00 - [42] Does CCP do work experience, i would like this information for future refrence since the uni course i go on at the end require you to go on some work expereince and well i would like to do it at CCP if you guys do anything like that?
tikiana	Posted - 2009.07.20 01:44:00 - [43] I don't understand why you feel you have to move? this is 2009, we have so many 'instant' forms of communication that i don't understand why you'd need to move country to do a programming job. With todays mobile phones you could probable write the code on the mobile and then just send it via the web or log into a FTP site and upload the code into there. My job however is in a data center, where i do maintenance on the servers, MFs and switches, along with a bunch of other stuff. Yes if anybody from CCP is reading this I'd love a job with you, looking after your data center
Rachel Silverside Caldari K Directorate	Posted - 2009.07.20 02:43:00 - [44] Originally by: tikiana I don't understand why you feel you have to move? this is 2009, we have so many 'instant' forms of communication that i don't understand why you'd need to move country to do a programming job. With todays mobile phones you could probable write the code on the mobile and then just send it via the web or log into a FTP site and upload the code into there. My job however is in a data center, where i do maintenance on the servers, MFs and switches, along with a bunch of other stuff. Yes if anybody from CCP is reading this I'd love a job with you, looking after your data center feeding the hampsters? sucks to be in australia becuase if you are accepted after you apply for a job at ccp its pretty much a 12 hour flight to anywhere their offices are based at lol hurray for massive jet lag -------------------- This sig was awesome but needs more EvE related content. - Zymurgist Playing eve online is like getting punched in the balls/gut/face....... what? what are you waiting for?
tikiana	Posted - 2009.07.20 03:49:00 - [45] Edited by: tikiana on 20/07/2009 03:52:58 Originally by: Rachel Silverside Originally by: tikiana I don't understand why you feel you have to move? this is 2009, we have so many 'instant' forms of communication that i don't understand why you'd need to move country to do a programming job. With todays mobile phones you could probable write the code on the mobile and then just send it via the web or log into a FTP site and upload the code into there. My job however is in a data center, where i do maintenance on the servers, MFs and switches, along with a bunch of other stuff. Yes if anybody from CCP is reading this I'd love a job with you, looking after your data center feeding the hampsters? sucks to be in australia becuase if you are accepted after you apply for a job at ccp its pretty much a 12 hour flight to anywhere their offices are based at lol hurray for massive jet lag Feed the hampsters, oh how little you understand it. * The hampsters are on a strickly enforced carb rich diet, to keep their energy up * you've got to talk to them and encourage them when they look to be getting a little tired * have the nightshift hampster crew ready to take over * change the hampster litter trays * have to keep the coffee brewed hot so they can get coffee in their little hampster cups we're planning on assigned hampster wheels because there are a few that want to fight over getting the good ones and sometimes they take awhile to sort themselves out. all in all its a full time job. As for the Australian thing yeah that might put a bit of a dampener on it, but i would love if they open a DC here, from what i understand its pretty cheap here to have a DC and I could run it for them, and all i ask is what I'm paid now, free eve and to be allowed to play while I'm at work
Janice Jankowski	Posted - 2009.07.20 04:18:00 - [46] Zaknussem seems to have experience at being rejected by CCP (looks like they made the right decision)
Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2009.07.20 04:49:00 - [47] Originally by: tikiana I don't understand why you feel you have to move? this is 2009, we have so many 'instant' forms of communication that i don't understand why you'd need to move country to do a programming job. With todays mobile phones you could probable write the code on the mobile and then just send it via the web or log into a FTP site and upload the code into there. My job however is in a data center, where i do maintenance on the servers, MFs and switches, along with a bunch of other stuff. Yes if anybody from CCP is reading this I'd love a job with you, looking after your data center I've worked on group projects through face-to-face collaboration and through online collaboration, so I have some experience with both. I have to say that there is absolutely no substitute for daily face-to-face group meetings and scheduled work sessions. Scheduling a physical meeting with other people has the important psychological implication of raising your internal priority of the event. I guess on some subconscious level people feel they're letting someone real down if they don't turn up to a scheduled face-to-face meeting. Whatever the reason, it's been empirically shown that pre-arranging to do something with another person reduces procrastination by an incredible amount (details in the book "Predictably Irrational" by Dan Ariely). I used this all the time in university for group projects and to make sure I did well in exams by scheduling revision times with someone else rather than just revising by myself. Since I started doing that some years ago, I jumped from around a 55% average mark to over 70 and I recently graduated with a first class honours (in a Masters degree in Computer Science). So it works, and it's an incredible tool for increasing productivity and making a workforce effective. Collaboration online just hasn't had the same effect for me, it has to be face-to-face. EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Ptarmigent Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.20 05:46:00 - [48] We have some remote workers in our office, and they're required to use a webcam to join in the daily scrum meeting. That said, as good as teleworking is, doing a remote buddy check-in is not fun. Besides, I get the impression that CCP is far more touch feely; if you couldn't phyically breathe the same air then you'd be missing out on a lot of things. Not to mention the chance to try and drink Oveur under the table. (I hear you can actually get a certificate for doing that :P) When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.
HenkieBoy Ferion Inc.	Posted - 2009.07.20 05:47:00 - [49] How much do I put into my CV? I began my programming carrier at the age of 5 on my MSX VG8020 ps. I do not intend to apply as they dont speak Dutch in Iceland
Ptarmigent Minmatar	Posted - 2009.07.20 05:58:00 - [50] Originally by: HenkieBoy How much do I put into my CV? I began my programming carrier at the age of 5 on my MSX VG8020 ps. I do not intend to apply as they dont speak Dutch in Iceland I got this from the CCP site HenkieBoy: Originally by: CCP Tips for applicants * Please do not send a longer resume than two pages. * Programmers should have a good resume and cover letter. A sample of their code is a definite advantage. When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.
Emmum Ethereal Navy	Posted - 2009.07.20 06:00:00 - [51] Originally by: CCP Soundwave Originally by: Zaknussem Originally by: Foodpimp ummm....off hand.... I'd say the same way you apply for any other job. Build a resume, lie about your experience and work history, create a generic cover letter stating that since the day you were born you wanted to work for a company that operates an MMO...wait six months to find out that there were 200 other applicants vying for the same two open spots with much better fake resumes....and all 200 of those people actually lived in the country of Iceland. Give up in despair. You're pretty close, but in the case of CCP there are additional requirements. You must know at least 3 people in the company that can (and want to) recommend you, and you won't ever find out "that there are 200 other applicants vying for the same two open spots" because CCP doesn't respond to every application sent in, only to those they think are viable for a position at CCP. Hell, I know for a fact they don't even look at all the applications sent in. There are no requirements to "know people in the company". If a person has a skillset we can use, he/she gets hired regardless if he/she knows ten people or none at all. Are CCP interested the rather unused-in-gaming-currently field of Neural Networking and Genetic Algorithms(in a larger sense, Machine learning?) I'm just wondering if that "skillset" which is as of yet not advanced enough to be used in a game like EVE without on-site research, would be one of the skillsets CCP might be interested in.
Trabber Shir Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.07.20 06:03:00 - [52] Originally by: HenkieBoy How much do I put into my CV? I began my programming carrier at the age of 5 on my MSX VG8020 ps. I do not intend to apply as they dont speak Dutch in Iceland Simple answer, don't send a CV when the company asks for a resume.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.07.20 06:26:00 - [53] Would be interesting, though if i applied, i'd have to keep my true identity hidden, or Wrangler would most definitely torment me for years to come My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2009.07.20 07:24:00 - [54] Originally by: Trabber Shir Originally by: HenkieBoy How much do I put into my CV? I began my programming carrier at the age of 5 on my MSX VG8020 ps. I do not intend to apply as they dont speak Dutch in Iceland Simple answer, don't send a CV when the company asks for a resume. Same thing really, just keep it to 2 pages and it's all fine. There was a lady in my university's careers department who can do wonders with a CV, squeezing it all into 2 pages :D. BTW HenkieBoy, almost everyone in Iceland speaks very good english. EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Mister Flibble eNinjas Incorporated	Posted - 2009.07.20 08:01:00 - [55] Originally by: Sheriff Jones Would be interesting, though if i applied, i'd have to keep my true identity hidden, or Wrangler would most definitely torment me for years to come So... you'd be, like, turning up for work in a superhero outfit or something? And you don't think that would make him suspicious?
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.07.20 08:02:00 - [56] Originally by: Mister Flibble Originally by: Sheriff Jones Would be interesting, though if i applied, i'd have to keep my true identity hidden, or Wrangler would most definitely torment me for years to come So... you'd be, like, turning up for work in a superhero outfit or something? And you don't think that would make him suspicious? Depends on the superhero. If i jumped around in tight red undies over my blue jumpers, i think he might, but if i ran around in silly wiggly ears screaming "I'm batman!", i think he'd think it's another tuesday. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.

CCP Lemur	Posted - 2009.07.20 09:55:00 - [57] Originally by: Armoured C Does CCP do work experience, i would like this information for future refrence since the uni course i go on at the end require you to go on some work expereince and well i would like to do it at CCP if you guys do anything like that? Not sure what you mean by "work experience" but there are interns around every now and then. We also are not very keen on remote workers, so moving to one of the offices is in 99% of the cases a must. If someone wants more numbers on Iceland the national statistics site is quite elaborate. But keep in mind that with the financial crisis a lots of numbers will change the trends and averages once they are in the system.

Ankhesentapemkah Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.07.20 10:17:00 - [58] Originally by: HenkieBoy ps. I do not intend to apply as they dont speak Dutch in Iceland The cook in CCP office does. ---
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.07.20 10:37:00 - [59] Originally by: tikiana I don't understand why you feel you have to move? this is 2009, we have so many 'instant' forms of communication that i don't understand why you'd need to move country to do a programming job. With todays mobile phones you could probable write the code on the mobile and then just send it via the web or log into a FTP site and upload the code into there. My job however is in a data center, where i do maintenance on the servers, MFs and switches, along with a bunch of other stuff. Yes if anybody from CCP is reading this I'd love a job with you, looking after your data center Even so, current technology can not substitute actually being there in person. Just writing and sending codes is not how to do a good job. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Sheriff Jones Amarr Clinical Experiment	Posted - 2009.07.20 11:19:00 - [60] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Originally by: tikiana I don't understand why you feel you have to move? this is 2009, we have so many 'instant' forms of communication that i don't understand why you'd need to move country to do a programming job. With todays mobile phones you could probable write the code on the mobile and then just send it via the web or log into a FTP site and upload the code into there. My job however is in a data center, where i do maintenance on the servers, MFs and switches, along with a bunch of other stuff. Yes if anybody from CCP is reading this I'd love a job with you, looking after your data center Even so, current technology can not substitute actually being there in person. Just writing and sending codes is not how to do a good job. Not to mention the communication between international things is a pain in the arse compared to face to face interaction. If things happen in a 5 minute delay, it may seem like a small thing, but if they have a 1 minute delay, it saves a lot of minutes. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.

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