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Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.09.28 20:46:00 - [61] Originally by: bUBbLeS are you talking about some kinda client side hack? So the story goes it is exactly that - CCP have admitted it IS possible to delete the models within eve so that, when you play, all the graphics engine will render is pretty squares / crosses / whatever. It is, hopefully, how the tactical display (come shiva) will work. And they are unable to detect if people are doing it.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2004.09.28 20:46:00 - [62] Originally by: bUBbLeS are you talking about some kinda client side hack? So the story goes it is exactly that - CCP have admitted it IS possible to delete the models within eve so that, when you play, all the graphics engine will render is pretty squares / crosses / whatever. It is, hopefully, how the tactical display (come shiva) will work. And they are unable to detect if people are doing it.
stinky fecker	Posted - 2004.09.28 20:51:00 - [63] Originally by: DigitalCommunist I will give 10mil isk to the first Phoenix Alliance member that clearly states and admits the fact that one of the reasons PA never wants to jump in and/or justifies their loss due to C.C.P.'s aleged use of this exploit. i hereby clearly state and admit that thing what you said 10m please
stinky fecker	Posted - 2004.09.28 20:51:00 - [64] Originally by: DigitalCommunist I will give 10mil isk to the first Phoenix Alliance member that clearly states and admits the fact that one of the reasons PA never wants to jump in and/or justifies their loss due to C.C.P.'s aleged use of this exploit. i hereby clearly state and admit that thing what you said 10m please
Kaladryn	Posted - 2004.09.28 22:57:00 - [65] Other MMOGs are now doing client side computer scans, not just of the game folder, but of every process running. This is the ONLY solution to some types of cheating, and I'm not even sure it is a full solution. This would irk a lot of people but I think it would be worth it. Kaladryn
Kaladryn	Posted - 2004.09.28 22:57:00 - [66] Other MMOGs are now doing client side computer scans, not just of the game folder, but of every process running. This is the ONLY solution to some types of cheating, and I'm not even sure it is a full solution. This would irk a lot of people but I think it would be worth it. Kaladryn
Jaabaa Prime	Posted - 2004.09.28 23:13:00 - [67] My personal obseravtions and thoughts: I never knew about this until yesterday, but as a programmer it makes sense. Remove the model and then you remove the lag. I tried starting EVE from my file server via a 100MBit LAN, it took for ever, I think the code is CRC checked but not too sure about the .stuff files considering this thread. Anyone one that needs the "no load lag" edge is just pathetic. Play and win or lose on an even field. Otherwise you are an exploiter. /me goes to kill stuff and play the game instead of discussing it to death. -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
Jaabaa Prime	Posted - 2004.09.28 23:13:00 - [68] My personal obseravtions and thoughts: I never knew about this until yesterday, but as a programmer it makes sense. Remove the model and then you remove the lag. I tried starting EVE from my file server via a 100MBit LAN, it took for ever, I think the code is CRC checked but not too sure about the .stuff files considering this thread. Anyone one that needs the "no load lag" edge is just pathetic. Play and win or lose on an even field. Otherwise you are an exploiter. /me goes to kill stuff and play the game instead of discussing it to death. -- Intergalactic Teeth Pullers "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." Albert Einstein
Hakera	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:19:00 - [69] Edited by: Hakera on 29/09/2004 00:25:09 Use Punkbuster, there are certain key files in the eve client that can be scanned as you connect to the server relatively quickly, if a difference in file size is detected just deny a connection. Dumbledore - Eve-I.com
Hakera	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:19:00 - [70] Edited by: Hakera on 29/09/2004 00:25:09 Use Punkbuster, there are certain key files in the eve client that can be scanned as you connect to the server relatively quickly, if a difference in file size is detected just deny a connection. Dumbledore - Eve-I.com
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:37:00 - [71] So, tell me again HOW you know for certain this is being used? Oh, and please this link for reference and then answer. I have nothing else to say.
SirMolle	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:37:00 - [72] So, tell me again HOW you know for certain this is being used? Oh, and please this link for reference and then answer. I have nothing else to say.
Deathwing	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:40:00 - [73] Dont forget to cough when u bend over pls <Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS
Deathwing	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:40:00 - [74] Dont forget to cough when u bend over pls <Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS
Nafri	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:42:00 - [75] Originally by: SirMolle So, tell me again HOW you know for certain this is being used? Oh, and please this link for reference and then answer. I have nothing else to say. ouch, well, thats gonna hurt Wanna fly with me?
Nafri	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:42:00 - [76] Originally by: SirMolle So, tell me again HOW you know for certain this is being used? Oh, and please this link for reference and then answer. I have nothing else to say. ouch, well, thats gonna hurt Wanna fly with me?
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:42:00 - [77] Originally by: SirMolle So, tell me again HOW you know for certain this is being used? Oh, and please this link for reference and then answer. I have nothing else to say. and erm ..
Rodney Munch	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:42:00 - [78] Originally by: SirMolle So, tell me again HOW you know for certain this is being used? Oh, and please this link for reference and then answer. I have nothing else to say. and erm ..
olyyy	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:44:00 - [79] Originally by: SirMolle So, tell me again HOW you know for certain this is being used? Oh, and please this link for reference and then answer. I have nothing else to say. pwned. Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 )
olyyy	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:44:00 - [80] Originally by: SirMolle So, tell me again HOW you know for certain this is being used? Oh, and please this link for reference and then answer. I have nothing else to say. pwned. Galaga (Galaxian - XIF corp) And yes, Olyyy is on our KOS list so she enjoys stirring the "flames" ( 2004.05.25 )
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:51:00 - [81] cough ahem. -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2004.09.29 00:51:00 - [82] cough ahem. -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
Galavet	Posted - 2004.09.29 01:08:00 - [83] Edited by: Galavet on 29/09/2004 01:10:42 Those of us that are too honest to sink to such exploits, should know we are honest with a good cause.
Galavet	Posted - 2004.09.29 01:08:00 - [84] Edited by: Galavet on 29/09/2004 01:10:42 Those of us that are too honest to sink to such exploits, should know we are honest with a good cause.
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.09.29 01:10:00 - [85] pffft, that's comical, talk about caught with your hand in the cookie jar! Eve Blacklight Style
Blacklight	Posted - 2004.09.29 01:10:00 - [86] pffft, that's comical, talk about caught with your hand in the cookie jar! Eve Blacklight Style
KoeShadowhawk	Posted - 2004.09.29 01:12:00 - [87] Edited by: KoeShadowhawk on 29/09/2004 01:14:24 BAD PA , no more cAKe for y00
KoeShadowhawk	Posted - 2004.09.29 01:12:00 - [88] Edited by: KoeShadowhawk on 29/09/2004 01:14:24 BAD PA , no more cAKe for y00
Etoile Chercheur	Posted - 2004.09.29 01:19:00 - [89] ouch. didn't think anyone else read your forums? jeebus, what a burn! would you like some ketchup with that foot? mayo, mustard, anything? i agree that models you're zoomed so far out you can't even see shouldn't be rendered. in fact, if i were CCP, i would include a completely user-configurable setting that allows the player to punch in the zoom level at which ships become rendered. 0% zoom would be right up on your ship. 100% would be as far out as you can get. i think i'd set mine at about 15% or so. would be a VERY nice feature. hopefully, something is being done about this and being incorporated into the new tactical view. Midshipman Etoile Chercheur - Logistics Division (M&T) \| Hadean Drive Yards
Etoile Chercheur	Posted - 2004.09.29 01:19:00 - [90] ouch. didn't think anyone else read your forums? jeebus, what a burn! would you like some ketchup with that foot? mayo, mustard, anything? i agree that models you're zoomed so far out you can't even see shouldn't be rendered. in fact, if i were CCP, i would include a completely user-configurable setting that allows the player to punch in the zoom level at which ships become rendered. 0% zoom would be right up on your ship. 100% would be as far out as you can get. i think i'd set mine at about 15% or so. would be a VERY nice feature. hopefully, something is being done about this and being incorporated into the new tactical view. Midshipman Etoile Chercheur - Logistics Division (M&T) \| Hadean Drive Yards

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