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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.29 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
That said, it is the post in the PA chat that triggered me to post here,
looks at date on pa thread screenie.
looks at date you started this cya thread.
Dude, you aren't even a good liar ffs.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.29 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ
That said, it is the post in the PA chat that triggered me to post here,
looks at date on pa thread screenie.
looks at date you started this cya thread.
Dude, you aren't even a good liar ffs.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Shalmaneser ili
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Posted - 2004.09.29 13:59:00 -
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I see Diee is still in PA....you sure are really strict about cheaters in the PA

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Shalmaneser ili
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Posted - 2004.09.29 13:59:00 -
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I see Diee is still in PA....you sure are really strict about cheaters in the PA

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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: KIAEddZ
That said, it is the post in the PA chat that triggered me to post here,
looks at date on pa thread screenie.
looks at date you started this cya thread.
Dude, you aren't even a good liar ffs.
PA Thread Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:44 pm Eve-o thread posted: Tue 2004.09.28 13:08:00
So your point is what exactly? Also what has eddz supposidly lied about? I don't understand why people are flaming this, rather than agreeing that we all want the problem resolved 
As for all the "tut tut" post, cheers for adding value to the discussion :)
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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KIAHicks
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: ProphetGuru
Originally by: KIAEddZ
That said, it is the post in the PA chat that triggered me to post here,
looks at date on pa thread screenie.
looks at date you started this cya thread.
Dude, you aren't even a good liar ffs.
PA Thread Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 9:44 pm Eve-o thread posted: Tue 2004.09.28 13:08:00
So your point is what exactly? Also what has eddz supposidly lied about? I don't understand why people are flaming this, rather than agreeing that we all want the problem resolved 
As for all the "tut tut" post, cheers for adding value to the discussion :)
Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE hours without even a (go away)"...
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:40:00 -
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TBH I thought diees join date was his post date. My bad.
I retract saying eddz lied about why he posted.
But I won't apologize to someone who supports exploiting by their alliance members.

Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:40:00 -
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TBH I thought diees join date was his post date. My bad.
I retract saying eddz lied about why he posted.
But I won't apologize to someone who supports exploiting by their alliance members.

Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:46:00 -
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I really wish GM's would give us some statistics on numbers of people banned for exploiting and a general idea of what the exploit was.
No names, just numbers.
It'd be quite interesting.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.29 14:46:00 -
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I really wish GM's would give us some statistics on numbers of people banned for exploiting and a general idea of what the exploit was.
No names, just numbers.
It'd be quite interesting.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Meldryn Mawr
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Posted - 2004.09.29 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ribbo
Originally by: SirMolle So, tell me again HOW you know for certain this is being used?
Oh, and please this link for reference and then answer.
I have nothing else to say.
what a nice flamebait thread and a clever turn, however how about posting the rest of piemans quote? I for one will be intrested to see what he says?
whether it be
"ok, let me begin :
this is everybit of information needed to perform this cheat ever" (followed by the rest of PA jumping in with oh yes i use this hax all the time)
or
"ok, let me begin :
cheaters are bad m'kay, i condone cheaters"
if you've got a mole in the forums, please can you let us see more of this thread? and not just the bit that supports your arguement. for all we know it could just be eddz and the rest of PA condoning this hack.
infact go one step further, BobbyWilson, put this thread in the www.newvenal.org Public section.
Regards
Ribbo www.balec.cc
one question, do you actually know what the word "condone" means? maybe use a dictionary before trying to use big words.
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Meldryn Mawr
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Posted - 2004.09.29 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ribbo
Originally by: SirMolle So, tell me again HOW you know for certain this is being used?
Oh, and please this link for reference and then answer.
I have nothing else to say.
what a nice flamebait thread and a clever turn, however how about posting the rest of piemans quote? I for one will be intrested to see what he says?
whether it be
"ok, let me begin :
this is everybit of information needed to perform this cheat ever" (followed by the rest of PA jumping in with oh yes i use this hax all the time)
or
"ok, let me begin :
cheaters are bad m'kay, i condone cheaters"
if you've got a mole in the forums, please can you let us see more of this thread? and not just the bit that supports your arguement. for all we know it could just be eddz and the rest of PA condoning this hack.
infact go one step further, BobbyWilson, put this thread in the www.newvenal.org Public section.
Regards
Ribbo www.balec.cc
one question, do you actually know what the word "condone" means? maybe use a dictionary before trying to use big words.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:12:00 -
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To all the Evol, m0o, RKK and BNC dudes that posted on this OWNED after Shrike posted a link to the PA forums need to sit down and think really hard about this.
1)You find a link on our forums with someone asking how it is done.
2)By saying OWNED you are implying that we use it and Eddz is a Hyopcrate.
3)This is a exploit that totally removes lag
4)You then Moan and ***** and call us *****s because we do not jump in on your camped fleet. If what you say on the forums all the time about us not attacking when we have 2:1 is true then surely we would have no reason not to jump in as we have 2:1 and 0 lag.
5)Last night in 6nj we proved we can fight you around even numbers and pwn your arses furry muff you did get some ganks to make it even.
So in summary WE can beat you on even terms but when we have 2:1 number and NOOOO lag we are not prepared to jump in I know this is no maths problem But something here does not add up to me.
Have a nice day and see you on the field of love .
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:12:00 -
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To all the Evol, m0o, RKK and BNC dudes that posted on this OWNED after Shrike posted a link to the PA forums need to sit down and think really hard about this.
1)You find a link on our forums with someone asking how it is done.
2)By saying OWNED you are implying that we use it and Eddz is a Hyopcrate.
3)This is a exploit that totally removes lag
4)You then Moan and ***** and call us *****s because we do not jump in on your camped fleet. If what you say on the forums all the time about us not attacking when we have 2:1 is true then surely we would have no reason not to jump in as we have 2:1 and 0 lag.
5)Last night in 6nj we proved we can fight you around even numbers and pwn your arses furry muff you did get some ganks to make it even.
So in summary WE can beat you on even terms but when we have 2:1 number and NOOOO lag we are not prepared to jump in I know this is no maths problem But something here does not add up to me.
Have a nice day and see you on the field of love .
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:21:00 -
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Also as eddz said he is not pointing any Fingers but all the guys we fight are saying are you accusing us blah blah blah what makes you think that Eddz is making a observation about a exploit that can **** this game up totally.
Also what i find highly entertaining is that unlike the normal smack we have to endure after a battle with you guys there was non of that but there was a first and that was you guys sudden complaining about what horribale lag there was
And this comes from people that warp in to a fleet of 100 ships with drones deployed and turn around and warp out before any of us can lock. You must have Uber Uber computers to do it because mine is pretty damn good and i tried it and well i got locked by about the whole fleet.
Like Eddz i am not pointing fingers but you guys clearly think we use it because of the post on the PA forums, yes that looks suspect so does a few of the points i made above. Personally i find the whole thing highly entertaining that someone is sad enough to come up with this crap just so they get to blow up some pixels faster. For those that do it i would consider talking to someone about your issues with life asap.
The only thing to be done now is for CCP to track the Exploiters and Fix it asap.
Noone can prove anyone of doing it so dont bother trying.
just play the game and have fun.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:21:00 -
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Also as eddz said he is not pointing any Fingers but all the guys we fight are saying are you accusing us blah blah blah what makes you think that Eddz is making a observation about a exploit that can **** this game up totally.
Also what i find highly entertaining is that unlike the normal smack we have to endure after a battle with you guys there was non of that but there was a first and that was you guys sudden complaining about what horribale lag there was
And this comes from people that warp in to a fleet of 100 ships with drones deployed and turn around and warp out before any of us can lock. You must have Uber Uber computers to do it because mine is pretty damn good and i tried it and well i got locked by about the whole fleet.
Like Eddz i am not pointing fingers but you guys clearly think we use it because of the post on the PA forums, yes that looks suspect so does a few of the points i made above. Personally i find the whole thing highly entertaining that someone is sad enough to come up with this crap just so they get to blow up some pixels faster. For those that do it i would consider talking to someone about your issues with life asap.
The only thing to be done now is for CCP to track the Exploiters and Fix it asap.
Noone can prove anyone of doing it so dont bother trying.
just play the game and have fun.
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:49:00 -
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LOL! , so changing eve files = BAN?
Why dont you get banned for this too? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=110129
Its not exploiting from my perspective, its game tweaking, and it should be added to above thread!
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Dred 'Morte
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:49:00 -
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LOL! , so changing eve files = BAN?
Why dont you get banned for this too? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=110129
Its not exploiting from my perspective, its game tweaking, and it should be added to above thread!
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Hakera
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Hakera on 29/09/2004 17:50:56 Hmm, Im sure Oveur said...
Originally by: Oveur Wireframe wouldn't really make it much faster after the optimizations since it's what we are doing to the models and how we handle them that's buggy, not the models themselves. This was made clearer from the Scott/Hammerhead logs.
in this blog
and also...
Originally by: Oveur
1) It's not the models 2) It's not the models
Like I said earlier, it's under the hood, not the paintjob :)
So assuming CCP know what they are on about, most of this debate is mute even if someone decides to go swapping models.
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |

Hakera
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Hakera on 29/09/2004 17:50:56 Hmm, Im sure Oveur said...
Originally by: Oveur Wireframe wouldn't really make it much faster after the optimizations since it's what we are doing to the models and how we handle them that's buggy, not the models themselves. This was made clearer from the Scott/Hammerhead logs.
in this blog
and also...
Originally by: Oveur
1) It's not the models 2) It's not the models
Like I said earlier, it's under the hood, not the paintjob :)
So assuming CCP know what they are on about, most of this debate is mute even if someone decides to go swapping models.
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |

ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:49:00 -
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Holy pwned!
To the backpedal-mobile!!!
You guys should probably quit while you behind.
You can say anything you want, a picture is worth a thousand words, and a picture of someones words..... well damn, that must be worth even more 
I shouldn't be suprised really to see GODS doing stuff like this though. They have shown their true colors multiple times, but one would think other pa corps wouldn't stand for it. Oh well, desperate times call for desperate measures I guess, and it's more obvious then ever that you are all desperate.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:49:00 -
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Holy pwned!
To the backpedal-mobile!!!
You guys should probably quit while you behind.
You can say anything you want, a picture is worth a thousand words, and a picture of someones words..... well damn, that must be worth even more 
I shouldn't be suprised really to see GODS doing stuff like this though. They have shown their true colors multiple times, but one would think other pa corps wouldn't stand for it. Oh well, desperate times call for desperate measures I guess, and it's more obvious then ever that you are all desperate.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera Edited by: Hakera on 29/09/2004 17:50:56 Hmm, Im sure Oveur said...
Originally by: Oveur Wireframe wouldn't really make it much faster after the optimizations since it's what we are doing to the models and how we handle them that's buggy, not the models themselves. This was made clearer from the Scott/Hammerhead logs.
in this blog
and also...
Originally by: Oveur
1) It's not the models 2) It's not the models
Like I said earlier, it's under the hood, not the paintjob :)
So assuming CCP know what they are on about, most of this debate is mute even if someone decides to go swapping models.
If you remove the models you gain a lot of FPS.
This makes the client more responsive.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.09.29 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera Edited by: Hakera on 29/09/2004 17:50:56 Hmm, Im sure Oveur said...
Originally by: Oveur Wireframe wouldn't really make it much faster after the optimizations since it's what we are doing to the models and how we handle them that's buggy, not the models themselves. This was made clearer from the Scott/Hammerhead logs.
in this blog
and also...
Originally by: Oveur
1) It's not the models 2) It's not the models
Like I said earlier, it's under the hood, not the paintjob :)
So assuming CCP know what they are on about, most of this debate is mute even if someone decides to go swapping models.
If you remove the models you gain a lot of FPS.
This makes the client more responsive.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.29 18:07:00 -
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Thats funny, PA members saying how we should keep politics out of it, when this goes much much further than politics. Its borderline personal attacks.
PA members have accused our entire alliance of cheating ingame, but when we prove that your own members are discussing how to do it, you suddenly have no more accusations to make.
Oh I agree it has nothing to do with alliance vs alliance, but rather what each individual member's stance on morality was.
So if you're really that hardcore against cheaters Eddz, petition your friend Diee over here, then ask him what his punishment was. That should answer your original post. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2004.09.29 18:07:00 -
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Thats funny, PA members saying how we should keep politics out of it, when this goes much much further than politics. Its borderline personal attacks.
PA members have accused our entire alliance of cheating ingame, but when we prove that your own members are discussing how to do it, you suddenly have no more accusations to make.
Oh I agree it has nothing to do with alliance vs alliance, but rather what each individual member's stance on morality was.
So if you're really that hardcore against cheaters Eddz, petition your friend Diee over here, then ask him what his punishment was. That should answer your original post. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf |

Karunel
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Posted - 2004.09.29 18:28:00 -
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Very funny *claps* 
I think Sham deserves some recognition for daring to defend PA *claps some more* 
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Karunel
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Posted - 2004.09.29 18:28:00 -
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Very funny *claps* 
I think Sham deserves some recognition for daring to defend PA *claps some more* 
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.09.29 18:32:00 -
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Quote: I WILL KICK ANYONE from R-K that uses this cheat, I dont care if every Moo and Evol guy turns up to a battle with it hacked, 2 wrongs make nothing but ill feeling and mistrsut.
you're such a****got. even after the screenshot is posted and youre swearing youre trying to keep this free of accusations, you still HAVE to slip in that line. **** off
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.09.29 18:32:00 -
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Quote: I WILL KICK ANYONE from R-K that uses this cheat, I dont care if every Moo and Evol guy turns up to a battle with it hacked, 2 wrongs make nothing but ill feeling and mistrsut.
you're such a****got. even after the screenshot is posted and youre swearing youre trying to keep this free of accusations, you still HAVE to slip in that line. **** off
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