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CCP Fallout
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Posted - 2009.07.20 14:59:00 -
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What is COSMOS and how will it work with EVE Online? CCP Caedmon gives us the scoop in his newest dev blog.
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CCP Lemur
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:04:00 -
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So from there on nobody will ever get any work done anymore? Are you working or are you able to access face... err COSMOS?
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Rivqua
Caldari Omega Wing R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:15:00 -
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Will we have maillist functionaility etc for ingame mail in the early releases ? _________________ - Rivqua - --- R.E.P.O. --- |
Batolemaeus
Caldari Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:19:00 -
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Came hoping for a rework of the broken COSMOS ingame, left disappointed. ----------------------------------------------
Originally by: CCP Prism X In New Eden, EVE wins you.
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Syberbolt8
Gallente Oblivion Industries DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:20:00 -
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Looking forward to the eve-mail update Support the DEAD HORSE POS's |
Unfamed II
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:23:00 -
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in before chribba \o/
Originally by: Sandslinger of CA
So this wasn't a straightoff logoffski from our point of view, rather a tactical manoeuvre
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riverini
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:24:00 -
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WALK IN STATION???? WHEN!!!!? CCP STOP IGNORING UR LOYAL USER BASE, IF WE WERE PROMISED SOMETHING, WE WANT AT LEAST SOME ANSWERS!!
How about some devblog of what u guys have been doing with WiS (if you haven't that project still shelved...), who care this COSMOS PoS, shell out something the majority of the users can actually enjoy... next expansion: better sovs mechanics, gotta be kidding me... how many of you devs get to really enjoy the new sovs mechanics...
Please pay attention to your clients...
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Yakia TovilToba
Halliburton Inc.
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:29:00 -
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Sounds great so far ... but I'm a bit confused, what does this have to do with the current COSMOS system in game (COSMOS systems and agents) - or is this the same name for 2 totally different things ?
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Frug
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:33:00 -
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Edited by: Frug on 20/07/2009 15:35:04 Edited by: Frug on 20/07/2009 15:34:35
Quote: a new mail system
What?
Quote: a new mail system
YES oh thank god
Quote: a new contacts system, which brings in two-way agreed friendships
This concerns me. Will this affect finding people who, say, don't want to be found in game?
- - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Whisper/PrismX 4 emperor |
Ix Forres
Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:38:00 -
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This sounds great and all, but what does this mean for the EVE API? "You can use COSMOS for that, thus we don't need to give you an API for it"? EVEmail API has been possibly the most requested API since day one. Will we be getting API equivalents for everything COSMOS does?
I care little about CCP-maintained sites as CCP doesn't have the strongest record when it comes to maintaining websites and making them useful/relevant in the way the style of site demands (see: the forums, Evelopedia). A CCP social networking site (That's all this is, by the sound of it)? Hello MySpaceOnline. If CCP had given the community an API to EVEmail a year ago we'd have EVEmails tied into Thunderbird/Outlook through IMAP/SMTP, we'd have Gevemail, you name it. A few hundred developers working because they want to make something awesome will always beat a company and few teams of ten working on a spec they've not had much input on. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer Charactr (NEW) | EVE Metrics | I Tweet |
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Treelox
Amarr Seppuku Warriors
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Batolemaeus Came hoping for a rework of the broken COSMOS ingame, left disappointed.
I knew that this blog was in reference to the social networking concept known as "COSMOS", but I still wonder why CCP chose a name they had already used for something else.
TBH CCP has hinted that they will not be fixing the ingame "COSMOS" missions something to do with their new mission writing tools. --
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Treelox
Amarr Seppuku Warriors
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: riverini WALK IN STATION???? WHEN!!!!? CCP STOP IGNORING UR LOYAL USER BASE, IF WE WERE PROMISED SOMETHING, WE WANT AT LEAST SOME ANSWERS!!
How about some devblog of what u guys have been doing with WiS (if you haven't that project still shelved...), who care this COSMOS PoS, shell out something the majority of the users can actually enjoy... next expansion: better sovs mechanics, gotta be kidding me... how many of you devs get to really enjoy the new sovs mechanics...
Please pay attention to your clients...
I for one am a loyal user, and I do not want WiS. I signed up to play an interwebz spaceship game, not watch avatars walk around. --
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Resivan
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:52:00 -
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Access to in-game mail through an out-of-game website is cool, I suppose. But if you want to make available a currently in-game function out-of-game, I'd put skill management at the top of the list. The skill queue is a big help, but when you're away from home it's a lot easier to find a computer with internet access than one that you can install and run Eve on.
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Garr Anders
Minmatar Thukk U
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:56:00 -
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Regarding the "two-way agreed friendships", please make it "friends and foes" so you can have your enemies on it as well, might even take it from the standing list of the alliance/corporations/personal as it would also make the "ingame social network profile" complete rather than "just having a simple friend list".
Especially with alliance/corp/personal standings this should/could tie from the COSMOS to the ingame standings and would be muchos awesome. ----- Garr Anders
"The only winning move is not to play" is about the best damn advice anyone can get regarding arguing over the internet. - referring to the Movie WarGames 1983
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Steve Thomas
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:56:00 -
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And like simular features in games like EQII and WoW something that will be mostly ignored or not used by 99% of the playerbase beyond pokeing around at it when it goes live.
Seriously most buisnesses and even more and more schools and public librarys nowdays block you from going to any websight that feature "out of game suport for ingame play" as part of there basic web policy
you end up with a situation where if your going to log in just to check your "evemail" you might as well just log into the game.
overall Im kind of meh on the whole thing.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
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Posted - 2009.07.20 15:57:00 -
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Will we gain the ability to check evemails using an external email client? IMAP access would be ideal. --- 34.4:1 mineral compression ISRC Racing, Season 7 - schedule |
Rokkit Kween
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:00:00 -
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Pff, facebook in space. not needed. Not big, not clever.
An upgrade to the mail system, yes needed, but not with all the bells and whistles. We have EVEmon, EVEHQ, Meep, EFT and all the rest for that.
What I'd like to see is a separate client for in game communications (chat, mail and voice) so that you can check your in game mail on a computer that can't access the main client (at work maybe). A separate voice client would mean that if you DC you don't lose voice comms (which is what currently happens with EVE-Voice), and an external chat client for the same reason.
We don't need a facebook/myspace clone thank you very much we have facebook for that.
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Will we gain the ability to check evemails using an external email client? IMAP access would be ideal.
Nah you know them too well, they'd implement their own thing over a standard, like they did with the API instead of using webservices or any other perfectly serviceable existing standard. Why use standards when you can reinvent the wheel? -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog |
Merende Macaco
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:14:00 -
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Something compact that I can access from my cellphone would be nice, would help in scheduling ops when I'm at work, while not having to monkey around attempting to bypass the draconian filters.
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Kaylan Jahlar
Minmatar Industrial Limited
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Rokkit Kween Pff, facebook in space. not needed. Not big, not clever.
An upgrade to the mail system, yes needed, but not with all the bells and whistles. We have EVEmon, EVEHQ, Meep, EFT and all the rest for that.
All 3rd party programs are just that: 3rd party. That means CCP doesn't own them and doesn't have any quality control over them. Besides, those programs don't always work on all plateforms, so your argument is pretty much pointless. It IS needed, and has been for a very long time.
Originally by: Rokkit Kween What I'd like to see is a separate client for in game communications (chat, mail and voice) so that you can check your in game mail on a computer that can't access the main client (at work maybe). A separate voice client would mean that if you DC you don't lose voice comms (which is what currently happens with EVE-Voice), and an external chat client for the same reason.
We don't need a facebook/myspace clone thank you very much we have facebook for that.
In case you haven't read properly, that's exactly what they said they would do. You will be able to access this COSMOS thing via a website (external to the game) and from inside the game.
CCP don't listen to these people and keep working on it, we do need such a tool.
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Kaylan Jahlar
Minmatar Industrial Limited
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Steve Thomas And like simular features in games like EQII and WoW something that will be mostly ignored or not used by 99% of the playerbase beyond pokeing around at it when it goes live.
Seriously most buisnesses and even more and more schools and public librarys nowdays block you from going to any websight that feature "out of game suport for ingame play" as part of there basic web policy
you end up with a situation where if your going to log in just to check your "evemail" you might as well just log into the game.
overall Im kind of meh on the whole thing.
Dude, you really need to learn how to spell. That was pretty painful to read.
---- Advanced combat probing guide: A clever use of the directional scanner |
riverini
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: riverini on 20/07/2009 16:36:59
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: riverini WALK IN STATION???? WHEN!!!!? CCP STOP IGNORING UR LOYAL USER BASE, IF WE WERE PROMISED SOMETHING, WE WANT AT LEAST SOME ANSWERS!!
How about some devblog of what u guys have been doing with WiS (if you haven't that project still shelved...), who care this COSMOS PoS, shell out something the majority of the users can actually enjoy... next expansion: better sovs mechanics, gotta be kidding me... how many of you devs get to really enjoy the new sovs mechanics...
Please pay attention to your clients...
I for one am a loyal user, and I do not want WiS. I signed up to play an interwebz spaceship game, not watch avatars walk around.
Good, now GO AND PLAY YOUR GAME THEN!!! MOVE!!!
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Armoured C
Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:48:00 -
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woot page one in new blog
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Neramore
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:49:00 -
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iPhone interface, even if it's just a decent css for the iPhone browser would be nice. I dream of an actual iPhone app, but I know that's just dreaming. "Actually, I enjoy this in the same vague, horrible way I enjoy watching the A-Team." - P. Opus |
Armoured C
Gallente Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.07.20 16:59:00 -
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new forums
yeay
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Ulair Memmet
ORIGIN SYSTEMS Shadows of Light
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Posted - 2009.07.20 17:20:00 -
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Sounds great
But why do you call it COSMOS? We already have a feature called like that. It's a bit confusing
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Kormorant
Gallente Blueprint Haus
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Posted - 2009.07.20 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Batolemaeus Came hoping for a rework of the broken COSMOS ingame, left disappointed.
Same....
How to confuse things... why not use a new name? Or are you going to rename the existing mess that is COSMOS?
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Maria Kalista
Amarr Emerald Forest Securities
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Posted - 2009.07.20 17:27:00 -
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I believe it when I see it. Somehow I fear CCP will find a reason 2 weeks prior to its release to pack it all up until further notice.
Ps: would have been a nice blog for Oveur, with much more information then now displayed. (one blog a year aint that much is it?)
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Originally by: Jacharian This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.
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Maria Kalista
Amarr Emerald Forest Securities
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Posted - 2009.07.20 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ulair Memmet Sounds great
But why do you call it COSMOS? We already have a feature called like that. It's a bit confusing
Its good you call it a feature since its kinda broken and not cared for for a long while.......
Originally by: Jacharian This sounds like a bad idea. I'm in.
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Damia
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.07.20 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Damia on 20/07/2009 17:40:21
Originally by: Ix Forres This sounds great and all, but what does this mean for the EVE API? "You can use COSMOS for that, thus we don't need to give you an API for it"? EVEmail API has been possibly the most requested API since day one. Will we be getting API equivalents for everything COSMOS does?
I entirely agree. However, two things.
The distinction between what the API is, and what a CCP hosted COSMOS site might be, is that the API does not allow you to transmit data TO the gaming environment from offline. This COSMOS site seems to promise the ability to perform actions from outside the game that traditionally players have had to be in the game to do (at first evemail, buddy lists ... then maybe contracts? ... someday maybe science/industry/market stuff?). I think CCP wants to avoid opening up the ability for players to design freeform tools that publish data to their servers. That is kind of a scary thought. You thought in-game bots were bad? Imagine what a 3rd party ISKseller bot could do from offline manipulating markets and contracts. It's going to be bad enough that they will be able to scan killboards for pilot names and send us eve-mails advertising their "CH3APe$T PR1c oN ISKs". Huge can of worms there.
Second. Why the hell call it COSMOS. While you're at it, overhaul the contracts system again, only don't call them contracts, call them missions. Or fix POS's, only don't call them POS's, call them stations. Or maybe remove asteroid belts, and just call them planets. Acronym reuse ftw. __________________________________ :Signed: |
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