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TheMiner
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:49:00 -
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I parked a very expensive ship in a super secret safespotthat only I had been to and that I only made a day before the event happened, and someone STOLE IT.
How is this possible? I was totally in the middle of no where!
To make the SS I flew halfway between planet A and planet B and then made a mark.... then watched TV for 2 hrs as I flew at 2 km/s straight up.
That should have put me way off the beaten path right? The distances in this game are SOOOO enormous that the chance of someone warping and running out of energy right where I ran out of energy.. and then flying strasight up for however long it would take them is just not viable... right?
How can it be anything other than some sort of packet sniffing hack that gave a cheater the location of my BM? Perhaps (opinion/theory only) even CCP has something to do with this. Giving pks they favor great tools... or maybe the GMs have normal characters that they play and enjoy EVE with.. and they "help out" their normal characters every now and then.
Am I missing something? (Honest question)
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TheMiner
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:49:00 -
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I parked a very expensive ship in a super secret safespotthat only I had been to and that I only made a day before the event happened, and someone STOLE IT.
How is this possible? I was totally in the middle of no where!
To make the SS I flew halfway between planet A and planet B and then made a mark.... then watched TV for 2 hrs as I flew at 2 km/s straight up.
That should have put me way off the beaten path right? The distances in this game are SOOOO enormous that the chance of someone warping and running out of energy right where I ran out of energy.. and then flying strasight up for however long it would take them is just not viable... right?
How can it be anything other than some sort of packet sniffing hack that gave a cheater the location of my BM? Perhaps (opinion/theory only) even CCP has something to do with this. Giving pks they favor great tools... or maybe the GMs have normal characters that they play and enjoy EVE with.. and they "help out" their normal characters every now and then.
Am I missing something? (Honest question)
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Mervent
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:51:00 -
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I am a new player, so how does one steal a ship? Thanks.
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Mervent
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:51:00 -
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I am a new player, so how does one steal a ship? Thanks.
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ronyo Dae'Loki on 29/09/2004 01:57:05
Some people are very good at finding safespots.
Since you were a mere 14.4K km off the path of a planet to planet warp, that isn't an impossible safespot to find, though it's not all that easy either.
A good safespot finder could find it in a matter of a few hours.
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Ronyo Dae'Loki
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ronyo Dae'Loki on 29/09/2004 01:57:05
Some people are very good at finding safespots.
Since you were a mere 14.4K km off the path of a planet to planet warp, that isn't an impossible safespot to find, though it's not all that easy either.
A good safespot finder could find it in a matter of a few hours.
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Watanabe
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:52:00 -
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I think the SuperSafespotBusterv2.3 was used, its a special 3rd party add-on that enables you to find safespots. It is not considered an exploit, since it is not publicly available (altho rumours say that some people obtained it by performing various favors to the developers of the tool).
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Watanabe
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:52:00 -
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I think the SuperSafespotBusterv2.3 was used, its a special 3rd party add-on that enables you to find safespots. It is not considered an exploit, since it is not publicly available (altho rumours say that some people obtained it by performing various favors to the developers of the tool).
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:55:00 -
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Make your safespot at least 15 AU from anything....I usually do 50 AU from the nearest object you can warp too...makes it harder.
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:55:00 -
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Make your safespot at least 15 AU from anything....I usually do 50 AU from the nearest object you can warp too...makes it harder.
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
Member of Metatron Incorporated |
Ma'at
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki
Since you were a mere 14.4K km off the path of a planet to planet warp, that isn't an impossible safespot to find, though it's not all that easy either.
14k is nothing, 2mins in dual mwd frig.
no safe spot is safe, some just take longer to find then others
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Ma'at
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Posted - 2004.09.29 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ronyo Dae'Loki
Since you were a mere 14.4K km off the path of a planet to planet warp, that isn't an impossible safespot to find, though it's not all that easy either.
14k is nothing, 2mins in dual mwd frig.
no safe spot is safe, some just take longer to find then others
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:00:00 -
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I helped code the supersafespotbuster so I use h4x kthx
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Daakkon
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:00:00 -
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I helped code the supersafespotbuster so I use h4x kthx
www.dark-cartel.com |
TheMiner
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: TheMiner on 29/09/2004 02:02:13
But how do they even know to start flying up? And how do they set their engines to stop at the right place? If your capacitor has even .1 more (or less) energy than mine did it will take you out of warp millions of KM away ... wont it? (or maybe .2) but some tiny number.
And how do you set your SS to be 15 AU away from nearest object if there are no objects in the system that are not 29 AU away from eachother.. or if they ARE farther there are other objects in between?
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TheMiner
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: TheMiner on 29/09/2004 02:02:13
But how do they even know to start flying up? And how do they set their engines to stop at the right place? If your capacitor has even .1 more (or less) energy than mine did it will take you out of warp millions of KM away ... wont it? (or maybe .2) but some tiny number.
And how do you set your SS to be 15 AU away from nearest object if there are no objects in the system that are not 29 AU away from eachother.. or if they ARE farther there are other objects in between?
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Ma'at
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: TheMiner
But how do they even know to start flying up?
directional scanner
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Ma'at
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: TheMiner
But how do they even know to start flying up?
directional scanner
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TheMiner
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:04:00 -
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Also... what if I made a safespot by doing this.
I fly halfway between planet A and planet B. Then I make a mark and fly halfway between where I am now and planet C. Then I make a mark and fly half way betwen mark 1 and mark 2. Then I fly halfway between mark 2 and the farthest object from me. Then I fly halfway between where I am now and mark 1. Then I fly straight down for 20 hours going 10 km/s.
Impossible to reach?
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TheMiner
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:04:00 -
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Also... what if I made a safespot by doing this.
I fly halfway between planet A and planet B. Then I make a mark and fly halfway between where I am now and planet C. Then I make a mark and fly half way betwen mark 1 and mark 2. Then I fly halfway between mark 2 and the farthest object from me. Then I fly halfway between where I am now and mark 1. Then I fly straight down for 20 hours going 10 km/s.
Impossible to reach?
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:05:00 -
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Your ship made a coockie crumble trace when you went afk...
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What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
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Nervar
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:05:00 -
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Your ship made a coockie crumble trace when you went afk...
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What I look forward to is continued immaturity followed by death.
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Idara
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Idara on 29/09/2004 02:08:21
Originally by: TheMiner
Edited by: TheMiner on 29/09/2004 02:02:13
But how do they even know to start flying up? And how do they set their engines to stop at the right place? If your capacitor has even .1 more (or less) energy than mine did it will take you out of warp millions of KM away ... wont it? (or maybe .2) but some tiny number.
And how do you set your SS to be 15 AU away from nearest object if there are no objects in the system that are not 29 AU away from eachother.. or if they ARE farther there are other objects in between?
It's a secret....
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
Member of Metatron Incorporated |
Idara
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:06:00 -
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Edited by: Idara on 29/09/2004 02:08:21
Originally by: TheMiner
Edited by: TheMiner on 29/09/2004 02:02:13
But how do they even know to start flying up? And how do they set their engines to stop at the right place? If your capacitor has even .1 more (or less) energy than mine did it will take you out of warp millions of KM away ... wont it? (or maybe .2) but some tiny number.
And how do you set your SS to be 15 AU away from nearest object if there are no objects in the system that are not 29 AU away from eachother.. or if they ARE farther there are other objects in between?
It's a secret....
Idara
Section Leader - Security & Warfare
Member of Metatron Incorporated |
TheMiner
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:06:00 -
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Cookie crumble? What?
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TheMiner
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:06:00 -
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Cookie crumble? What?
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Senthra Korima
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:22:00 -
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Right click on the map over the system and "Keep Location"
This adds a book mark way off in the middle of space, Warp to it a few times running out of Cap, create a new bookmark. Then mix it up as much as you want. ;)
Any Safe Spot can be found, simple fact is if you get to it, so can they.
Any Safe Spot located in system can be found in under an hour with a fast frigate and someone willing to spend the time. It doesnt matter if you stop between planets a and b, then to a spot between C and D.
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Senthra Korima
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:22:00 -
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Right click on the map over the system and "Keep Location"
This adds a book mark way off in the middle of space, Warp to it a few times running out of Cap, create a new bookmark. Then mix it up as much as you want. ;)
Any Safe Spot can be found, simple fact is if you get to it, so can they.
Any Safe Spot located in system can be found in under an hour with a fast frigate and someone willing to spend the time. It doesnt matter if you stop between planets a and b, then to a spot between C and D.
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:32:00 -
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To let you in on a little "sekrit".
"Super safe spots" are not really safe. Using a system warp point to make a "long term" spot is THE worst thing you can do.
Simply warping between 2 locations and making a safe spot is the next worst offense. They are SO easy to find.
Any safe spot that is less that 0.1 au away from any celestial object is a waste of time, 14,0000 km counts too. A frigate rigged for safe spot hunting can cover 1200-1400 per cycle easy. They are TOO easy to find.
When I was having a giggle doing a bit of "Safe Spot Hunting" I found and took control of the following abandoned ships in space:
2 Megathrons
4 Dominix
9 Thorax
Countless frigates and indys.
My best find was Organ Grinder's mining base, I got a load of Stabbers there, and the effort that they had put into aligning the 25 (36,49?) giant secures into a grid was lost to the community, because it was at a 0.0 safe spot. It was a hard one to find, but I showed my resolve having being challenged by various CA members.
BTW this one took me 1.5 days to get, and if there hadn't have been so many ships, and the Organ Grinder's weren't such an enemy, AND I hadn't accepted the challenge, it would probably still be a safe spot.
There is no such thing as a safe spot in EVE. Not if you are going to leave ships there anyway.
The furthest "super safe spot" I have seen was 1,700 au away from the sun, and it was actually one of the easiest to find.
The safest spot to park a ship is in a station, otherwise, someone, sometime, is going to take your ship.
Now, start warping, ejecting and abandoning your ships, the safe spot hunters need something to do 
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Intergalactic Teeth Pullers
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
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Jaabaa Prime
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Posted - 2004.09.29 02:32:00 -
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To let you in on a little "sekrit".
"Super safe spots" are not really safe. Using a system warp point to make a "long term" spot is THE worst thing you can do.
Simply warping between 2 locations and making a safe spot is the next worst offense. They are SO easy to find.
Any safe spot that is less that 0.1 au away from any celestial object is a waste of time, 14,0000 km counts too. A frigate rigged for safe spot hunting can cover 1200-1400 per cycle easy. They are TOO easy to find.
When I was having a giggle doing a bit of "Safe Spot Hunting" I found and took control of the following abandoned ships in space:
2 Megathrons
4 Dominix
9 Thorax
Countless frigates and indys.
My best find was Organ Grinder's mining base, I got a load of Stabbers there, and the effort that they had put into aligning the 25 (36,49?) giant secures into a grid was lost to the community, because it was at a 0.0 safe spot. It was a hard one to find, but I showed my resolve having being challenged by various CA members.
BTW this one took me 1.5 days to get, and if there hadn't have been so many ships, and the Organ Grinder's weren't such an enemy, AND I hadn't accepted the challenge, it would probably still be a safe spot.
There is no such thing as a safe spot in EVE. Not if you are going to leave ships there anyway.
The furthest "super safe spot" I have seen was 1,700 au away from the sun, and it was actually one of the easiest to find.
The safest spot to park a ship is in a station, otherwise, someone, sometime, is going to take your ship.
Now, start warping, ejecting and abandoning your ships, the safe spot hunters need something to do
--
Intergalactic Teeth Pullers
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
Albert Einstein |
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