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Cody Zamorah
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.05.27 15:44:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote: They were banned because they acted as a single group, with people/equipment being shared and engaged in activities, that went quite a bit further than any other entity has gone. It's odd they're the ones having all these special troubles abiding with a rule, that the other competitors have had no trouble with.
By that same reasoning we should start including all killmails from Sisi since those are kills aren't they.
Nobody bothered to talk with Hydra / Outbreak about the situation and just jumped the gun by taking in AT9. Even though no rules were broken at AT9 it was quickly assumed they would break the rules now. Because we all know that everything that happens on Sisi means exactly the same on Tranquility.
If any official would have taken the time to talk with the Hydra / Outbreak CEO's they might have come to a whole other conclusion, Yet they chose not to. Which image they portrayed with that is up to the eye every beholder. It's an utter sign of weakness that a lot of blue posts got removed. The question rises as why they are removed in the first place. Yet again a matter of how people wish to look at it. And this whole situation from A to Z has become a cesspool of vagueness.
The whole cloak and dagger routine doesn't work anymore, but as soon as all cloaks get dropped and daggers put on the table it seems that one side trumps dagger with a hammer. This isn't the kind of dialogue which got promised after the T20 and after that the Jita riots debacle.
So what is so hard at communicating openly and actually saying sorry if you messed up somewhere. That goes for all parties involved.
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Wheedily
Megaton Inc.
5
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Posted - 2012.05.27 16:09:00 -
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Cody Zamorah wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote: They were banned because they acted as a single group, with people/equipment being shared and engaged in activities, that went quite a bit further than any other entity has gone. It's odd they're the ones having all these special troubles abiding with a rule, that the other competitors have had no trouble with.
By that same reasoning we should start including all killmails from Sisi since those are kills aren't they. Nobody bothered to talk with Hydra / Outbreak about the situation and just jumped the gun by taking in AT9. Even though no rules were broken at AT9 it was quickly assumed they would break the rules now. Because we all know that everything that happens on Sisi means exactly the same on Tranquility. If any official would have taken the time to talk with the Hydra / Outbreak CEO's they might have come to a whole other conclusion, Yet they chose not to. Which image they portrayed with that is up to the eye every beholder. It's an utter sign of weakness that a lot of blue posts got removed. The question rises as why they are removed in the first place. Yet again a matter of how people wish to look at it. And this whole situation from A to Z has become a cesspool of vagueness. The whole cloak and dagger routine doesn't work anymore, but as soon as all cloaks get dropped and daggers put on the table it seems that one side trumps dagger with a hammer. This isn't the kind of dialogue which got promised after the T20 and after that the Jita riots debacle. So what is so hard at communicating openly and actually saying sorry if you messed up somewhere. That goes for all parties involved. Amen! Blahblah |
Hannah Ganktannah
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2012.05.27 17:26:00 -
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Hydrabreak never broke any rules last year , this year CCP AT representatives chose not to communicate because they are big babbys and then tried coming off all smug, which lead to them getting gagged by people upstairs |
Wheedily
Megaton Inc.
5
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Posted - 2012.05.27 18:16:00 -
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Hannah Ganktannah wrote:Hydrabreak never broke any rules last year , this year CCP AT representatives chose not to communicate because they are big babbys and then tried coming off all smug, which lead to them getting gagged by people upstairs
Gagged devs best devs (except the foul banning still stands /o ) Blahblah |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Exhale.
26
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Posted - 2012.05.29 09:48:00 -
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Banning both Hydra and Outbreak but only banning PL's B-team is laughable. Why not ban all PL teams, or allow one of hydra/outbreak? Oh wait that would be consistency/fairness and not obvious favouritism, childish grudges and buttmad |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
289
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Posted - 2012.05.29 09:55:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Banning both Hydra and Outbreak but only banning PL's B-team is laughable. Why not ban all PL teams, or allow one of hydra/outbreak? Oh wait that would be consistency/fairness and not obvious favouritism, childish grudges and buttmad
maybe because PL/snigg never f*cked up the AT yet, nor tried to. They also dont even train together. |
Wheedily
Megaton Inc.
6
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Posted - 2012.05.29 10:10:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:Banning both Hydra and Outbreak but only banning PL's B-team is laughable. Why not ban all PL teams, or allow one of hydra/outbreak? Oh wait that would be consistency/fairness and not obvious favouritism, childish grudges and buttmad
This indeed.
Robert Caldera wrote:
maybe because PL/snigg never f*cked up the AT yet, nor tried to. They also dont even train together.
You didn't see the latest PL Python inject hacking in past AT's evidence yet, did you? All is cool as long as it stays hidden, I guess. Blahblah |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
289
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Posted - 2012.05.29 10:21:00 -
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Wheedily wrote: You didn't see the latest PL Python inject hacking in past AT's evidence yet, did you? All is cool as long as it stays hidden, I guess.
what? |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Exhale.
27
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Posted - 2012.05.29 10:36:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:Wheedily wrote: You didn't see the latest PL Python inject hacking in past AT's evidence yet, did you? All is cool as long as it stays hidden, I guess.
what?
Exactly.
This ruling is as much of a farce as the hydra/outbreak finale. They were given the go ahead to share tactics and spar against one another - which in and of itself doesn't prove they are working as a single unit and attempting to fix matches. Obviously there's concern that that is what they're up to, which is why I think everyone would support the idea of only one of them being allowed to enter, or merging as one team. Removing them both, after they were explicitly told they were allowed to do what they did, is pathetic. Especially when there are other teams where there are similar concerns (like leadership jumping about between different alliances, both of which are entering as separate entities...) that have been allowed to enter a single team. |
Wheedily
Megaton Inc.
7
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Posted - 2012.05.29 12:27:00 -
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Robert Caldera wrote:Wheedily wrote: You didn't see the latest PL Python inject hacking in past AT's evidence yet, did you? All is cool as long as it stays hidden, I guess.
what?
This stuff
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/3632/screenshotfrom201205271.png
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114106 Blahblah |
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Ohh Yeah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
74
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Posted - 2012.05.30 23:49:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote: You didn't see the latest PL Python inject hacking in past AT's evidence yet, did you? All is cool as long as it stays hidden, I guess.
Monkeysphere hasn't logged on to EVE in two years and he's still catching suckers - hook, line, sinker - with his Failheap posting.
Hilarious |
TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Exhale.
35
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Posted - 2012.05.31 12:49:00 -
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Intigo wrote:Yet another topic locked. And the last post by Sreegs has him ignoring my questions yet again only to respond with "wow": https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1369261#post1369261Excellent work, Sreegs - thanks for answering the questions I gave you when you quoted my posts. Poetic Stanziel wrote:Jovan Geldon wrote:They were in the same corp on Singularity not TQ, you mouth breather Same difference. Two alliances, one team. Your blog on this matter already showed how little you know about this subject. You should really not comment on these things when you write stuff like this on your blog (in regards to AT IX): Quote:One alliance, Hydra Reloaded, decided to form another alliance, Outbreak, so that they could field two teams. You do not have the faintest clue what you are talking about. Outbreak has been around for a LONG time. Blog in question: http://poeticstanziel.blogspot.ca/2012/05/alliance-tournament-x-hydra-rule.html
Is this a troll blog or is he really that misinformed |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
114
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Posted - 2012.06.01 08:19:00 -
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I agree a single team would be fine but they won't let it happen.
I have a lot of respect for Hydra and Outbreak for there solo and small gang warfare and they are among some of the greatest PvP'ers in the game.
However you fudged up last year, it did ruin it for me personally.
I can not see it happening. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
751
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Posted - 2012.06.01 08:42:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote: They were given the go ahead to share tactics and spar against one another.
No they weren't.
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
751
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Posted - 2012.06.01 08:43:00 -
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Wheedily wrote: You didn't see the latest PL Python inject hacking in past AT's evidence yet, did you? All is cool as long as it stays hidden, I guess.
Its also all made up and you're making yourself look like a fool in pubic for believing it but hey, if thats your thing more power to you.
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Chekxxx
Megaton Inc.
5
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Posted - 2012.06.01 09:26:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Wheedily wrote: You didn't see the latest PL Python inject hacking in past AT's evidence yet, did you? All is cool as long as it stays hidden, I guess.
Its also all made up
Ahaha
Are you saying that Python injection hacking as a working concept is made up? (Proof exists that you're wrong)
Or that PL didn't do stuff like that in past tourneys like indicated by certain posts? (Posts that do look legit but ofc it might be made up)
I dunno, sometimes the best troll is the truth... |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
751
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Posted - 2012.06.01 11:28:00 -
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Chekxxx wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:Wheedily wrote: You didn't see the latest PL Python inject hacking in past AT's evidence yet, did you? All is cool as long as it stays hidden, I guess.
Its also all made up Ahaha Are you saying that Python injection hacking as a working concept is made up? (Proof exists that you're wrong) Or that PL didn't do stuff like that in past tourneys like indicated by certain posts? (Posts that do look legit but ofc it might be made up) I dunno, sometimes the best troll is the truth...
No I'm saying that the PL part is made up.
Try spending 3 to 4 years fighting for the guy who outed CCP for being crooked, and see what kind of microscope you get to live under, then, use every legal game mechanic to stretch the games combat to its absolute limits, including AOE dding a cap ship to death, so that for 2 years straight all CCP does is adjust the game to deal with our particular play style.
At one point they were so disgruntled at us that it took 4 months to get the prize and nearly a year to get our monument put up, and you can bet your ass that if there was the slightest hint of cheating they'd have burned the entire alliance at the stake.
Its funny because we knew they were mad at us so we walked on eggshells for 3 years or more, and when put in the same situation Hyrdra thumbed their nose at CCP and got the reaction we went out of our way to avoid all these years.
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Aldap
Club Bear
54
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Posted - 2012.06.02 04:56:00 -
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CCP are being douches. AT is not the same without last year's winners. Defending champions is what makes all competitions into a great spectacle. My first PvP video: The Hunt |
Chi Ana
Ordo Drakonis Nulli Secunda
48
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Posted - 2012.06.02 07:53:00 -
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this will be the best AT ever |
xxzartanxx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.02 10:26:00 -
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Hannah Ganktannah wrote:Hydrabreak never broke any rules last year , this year CCP AT representatives chose not to communicate because they are big babbys and then tried coming off all smug, which lead to them getting gagged by people upstairs
CCP screwed up with leaving a cheat hole in the rules.
They fixed that hole, Hybreak thought "CCP won't do sh*t about us, useless threats", they gambled, lost and are crying now.
Cheater tears are best tears.
Aldap wrote:CCP are being douches. AT is not the same without last year's winners. Defending champions is what makes all competitions into a great spectacle.
they didnt win, the match was fixed.
Aldap, If you think Hybreak should participate again with matchfixing tactics I got a whole new fun idea, a new lottery.
ONLY 2 TICKETS, 1 for you, 1 for me....100M ticket prize and the winner gets 25b. I will announce the winner after payment is received.
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Cody Zamorah
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
90
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Posted - 2012.06.02 10:44:00 -
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xxzartanxx wrote: they didnt win, the match was fixed.
And how about all those other matches that eventually led to the finals? Also fixed?
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Centac
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.04 22:08:00 -
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L Salander
Bite Me inc Exhale.
17
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Posted - 2012.06.07 13:36:00 -
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Poor hydra/outbreak, mistreated by a tourny managing bum who is buttsore about them. |
filingo rapongo
Doctrine. FEARLESS.
0
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Posted - 2012.06.07 13:44:00 -
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HYDRA WILL PROVAIL YOU ARE ALL NOOBS
FREE INTIBRO FREE PODCAT FREE KRUG etc |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
788
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Posted - 2012.06.07 18:46:00 -
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Cody Zamorah wrote:xxzartanxx wrote: they didnt win, the match was fixed.
And how about all those other matches that eventually led to the finals? Also fixed?
That's not the point, the point is it made it obvious that they entered two teams to increase the chances of winning. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 salesXbox 360: 2.2 millionPlayStation 3: 1.5 millionPC: 500,000 |
Intigo
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
98
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Posted - 2012.06.07 19:41:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:Cody Zamorah wrote:xxzartanxx wrote: they didnt win, the match was fixed.
And how about all those other matches that eventually led to the finals? Also fixed? That's not the point, the point is it made it obvious that they entered two teams to increase the chances of winning. I honestly don't think they meant or meet up in the finals, and they didn't mean to have the spotlight on them. Poor guys, if only they had pulled off that last match. I really don't think they planned to both make it.
Why are you so clueless?
http://www.failheap-challenge.com/showthread.php?2237-Alliance-Tournament-9-The-Hydra-and-0utbreak-Perspective
Do some reading, for your own good. "We discussed forming 1 (ONE) corporation to make these training in wormholes possible; if we wouldnt merge, 4th would have been forced to spend days and days to setup their own pos, to do this." 2 separate teams considered doing the same thing HYDRA & Outbreak did - how can you justify banning 2 teams who thought it was within the rules? |
Bob TSlob
Greater Order Of Destruction Happy Endings
1
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Posted - 2012.06.08 01:14:00 -
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IMHO i would be all for them reforming as single teams were it not for the stunts they pulled last year. But they did turn last years tourney into a joke, and so I am happy to see the tears. |
filingo rapongo
Doctrine. FEARLESS.
12
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Posted - 2012.06.08 07:34:00 -
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people seem to forget that since about alliance tourney 7 about 30% of the teams were b teams, with another 30% being made up alliances with silly names just to compete in the alliance tourney
hydra + outbreak just did it better than the rest~ |
Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
88
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Posted - 2012.06.08 09:00:00 -
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I don't think that's true, there were always a few B-teams but most of the time alliances didn't have enough people interested / willing / capable enough to put in the time so they could afford to split their efforts like that.. Lots of alliances can't even field one team, let alone two.
PL this year f.i. wouldn't have had a B-team even if they'd been allowed to ( your votes don't count don't count since their team was entirely seperate / independent / full of spies ) |
Major Killz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.06.08 11:57:00 -
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The alliance tournament has been getting worse every year. I've stop paying attention to it for the most part. Interenet space ship olympics. Interesting concept. The political thing, chest beating and silly rules. Has been going on for years. Why put so much effort into complaining? Go back to playing and enjoying non-arena pvp or just join RVB. |
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