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Ikeo58
Vermis foramen Industrius Union 0f Revolution
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:07:00 -
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Hi All,
As part of a WH corp myself we have bumbed into a few others through connections and are Generally quite welcoming unless they do not make themselves known or Start our sites
During this time we have developed quite a few blues and Non agression/Defense agreements which has built the basis of a quite noce Coalition - Mainly because WH's are awesome and the player base is generally of a different class than your average Bear/Griefer. I for one have helped out a Few pricy ships who have got stuck inside and without asking paid me once safe.
My Question: Is this common practice for all of you or do you act on a "You stepped in my house and must now die."? Also do you choose to Help escape or trick & Gank?
TL;DR or |
Godfrey Silvarna
Stargates and Smuggler Barons
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:26:00 -
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Shoot ship first, shoot pod second and ask questions later.
I have never understood people who announce their prencence in Local, not to mention expecting others to do the same. |
AdZc
Legio Prima Victrix Imperius Legio Victrix
5
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:50:00 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:Shoot ship first, shoot pod second and ask questions later.
I have never understood people who announce their prencence in Local, not to mention expecting others to do the same.
"THIS WH IS MAHHH SPACE!!!"
Yea shoot first questions later generally.
9/10 local chatter is probably a tarp! In my experience anyway. |
Lexylia
1ST GERMAN POPPLERS CORPORATION
5
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Posted - 2012.05.25 11:52:00 -
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Ikeo58 wrote:Hi All, . My Question: Is this common practice for all of you or do you act on a "You stepped in my house and must now die."? Also do you choose to Help escape or trick & Gank? TL;DR or
Kill them all and ransom thier pods if you have a good day , but normaly kill them all. Wormhole is not a fluffy place....
60% of local is smack talk form butthurt people who got shoot in the butt or didnt get a fight because they bring up fleet sizes you cant counter as medium size coorp.
30% is gf into local
10% random massages like HEALP need some POS fuel plx or people who talk in local instead in thier coorp chats |
Myz Toyou
Bite Me inc Exhale.
105
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:02:00 -
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Ikeo58 wrote:
During this time we have developed quite a few blues and Non agression/Defense agreements which has built the basis of a quite noce Coalition
Creating large blue lists is something 0.0 space is known for and many of us WHlers left because of this to WH space.
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Klarion Sythis
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:19:00 -
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I definitely endorse the no blues policy. In higher class wormholes at least, it already takes a long time to roll into a hole that has people in it, and nothing would be more aggravating than to finally find targets and see that they're blue. There's also no need to blue anyone. Most of the time, people aren't trying to evict you, so you don't need allies to help you defend your home unless your favorite pass time is going around throwing sand in people's eyes. Now if you go blue everyone up and won't fight anybody, then you might very well need those blues... |
Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:20:00 -
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Talking in local is either a noob move from people who don't know better, or it's one of the Aquila guys (coughcoughMesscoughcough) |
Cybus Max
Bite Me inc Exhale.
3
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:22:00 -
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Theres a difference between asking for a route out if someone becomes trapped and being blue.
If someone asks for a route out then it is up to the discression of the people involved. Most people are willing to pay for a way out but if you refuse outright fair enough, don't expect to catch the person if they know what there doing they will log out as soon as they see the probes.... And then SD l8tr.
Only thing i would say if you agree to give a route out don't then backstab them... This tends to end with you getting invaded :)
Also i seriously disagree with WH perma blue coalitions. Doing the occasioanly op with other WH entities because you either fancy something different or can't handle it solo fair enough but perma blue... Go live in 0.0 |
Qui Shon
Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.05.25 12:59:00 -
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Blues? Of course not, but that's just my own private opinion.
Adhocracy said it best: http://i.imgur.com/mM4mC.jpg |
Bane Nucleus
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
57
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:01:00 -
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I like to FAP in wh space. |
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Samillian
Moonshine Industries The Last Chancers.
160
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Posted - 2012.05.25 13:29:00 -
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NBSI shall be the whole of the law. |
Captain Muscles
Clan Farthammer
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Posted - 2012.05.25 14:21:00 -
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Years in W-space has taught me that the best way to make friends in Eve is to shoot people. It's like a litmus test that allows you to differentiate between the PCOOL GUYS and the butt-hurt weenies.
That being said, if someone asks for help, I generally give it. At the very least I won't pretend to help and then **** OMG IF I DONT STOP HICCUPING IM GOING TO POD MYSELF IRL
Ahem. What was I saying? Oh yes, we have a saying in my corp:
"Captain Muscles" wrote:I may break wind in your face, but I won't break my word behind your back. |
Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
13
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Posted - 2012.05.25 15:28:00 -
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It's human nature to seek alliances etc for mutual gain. Fortunately WH-space makes that tough, unlike 0.0 which is NAP-central. |
Van Slyke
The Red Circle Inc.
0
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:15:00 -
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Friendly Aggression Pact all the way. |
Gnaw LF
53
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:18:00 -
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Ikeo58 wrote:Hi All, As part of a WH corp myself we have bumbed into a few others through connections and are Generally quite welcoming unless they do not make themselves known or Start our sites During this time we have developed quite a few blues and Non agression/Defense agreements which has built the basis of a quite noce Coalition - Mainly because WH's are awesome and the player base is generally of a different class than your average Bear/Griefer. I for one have helped out a Few pricy ships who have got stuck inside and without asking paid me once safe. My Question: Is this common practice for all of you or do you act on a "You stepped in my house and must now die."? Also do you choose to Help escape or trick & Gank? TL;DR or
Misdirect. Trick. Kill. Gank. All good answers. |
Gnaw LF
53
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:19:00 -
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Van Slyke wrote:Friendly Aggression Pact all the way.
Indeed. Can't wait to FAP on you! |
Celery Man
Talocan Mining And Industrial Talocan United
43
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:20:00 -
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I believe your looking at it the wrong way OP, everyone in wormhole space is very friendly, its just that our prefered handshake is a pitched battle with spaceships.
This isn't some kind of metaphor that were all bloodthirsty, we just purely enjoy having spaceship battles, and living in wormhole spae affords us the ISK to fly really really fun spaceships. It really really isn't any more complicated than that.
The only time people run foul of large scale group action is when someone wants to use wormholes for anything other than a paradise full of people to battle with, and plenty of ISK to support said battles in fine fashion. |
Apolyon I
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
48
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:23:00 -
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shoot first, smack talk later |
MackemInSpace
Harm Co.
17
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:39:00 -
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Celery Man wrote:I believe your looking at it the wrong way OP, everyone in wormhole space is very friendly, its just that our prefered handshake is a pitched battle with spaceships.
This isn't some kind of metaphor that were all bloodthirsty, we just purely enjoy having spaceship battles, and living in wormhole spae affords us the ISK to fly really really fun spaceships. It really really isn't any more complicated than that.
The only time people run foul of large scale group action is when someone wants to use wormholes for anything other than a paradise full of people to battle with, and plenty of ISK to support said battles in fine fashion.
YES!
MOAR of this sort of thing! |
Kalel Nimrott
Wishful Desires Inc. Armada Assail
9
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Posted - 2012.05.25 16:41:00 -
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I wanna FAP. Where do I sign? |
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Qui Shon
Capital Construction Research Pioneer Alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:18:00 -
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Celery Man wrote:I believe your looking at it the wrong way OP, everyone in wormhole space is very friendly, its just that our prefered handshake is a pitched battle with spaceships.
This isn't some kind of metaphor that were all bloodthirsty, we just purely enjoy having spaceship battles, and living in wormhole spae affords us the ISK to fly really really fun spaceships. It really really isn't any more complicated than that.
The only time people run foul of large scale group action is when someone wants to use wormholes for anything other than a paradise full of people to battle with, and plenty of ISK to support said battles in fine fashion.
Many people *say* they want pitched battles, they may even believe it, but in the end what they really want is to win first, and will gladly sacrifice the "pitched" bit to that end. W-space is no different in this regard. Nothing wrong with that mind, it is the nature of Eve, just too much pretense of something else.
br, Qui Shon, professional party pooper, because truth, ya'know. Too much bs around.
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Celery Man
Talocan Mining And Industrial Talocan United
44
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Posted - 2012.05.25 17:28:00 -
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Qui Shon wrote:Celery Man wrote:I believe your looking at it the wrong way OP, everyone in wormhole space is very friendly, its just that our prefered handshake is a pitched battle with spaceships.
This isn't some kind of metaphor that were all bloodthirsty, we just purely enjoy having spaceship battles, and living in wormhole spae affords us the ISK to fly really really fun spaceships. It really really isn't any more complicated than that.
The only time people run foul of large scale group action is when someone wants to use wormholes for anything other than a paradise full of people to battle with, and plenty of ISK to support said battles in fine fashion. Many people *say* they want pitched battles, they may even believe it, but in the end what they really want is to win first, and will gladly sacrifice the "pitched" bit to that end. W-space is no different in this regard. Nothing wrong with that mind, it is the nature of Eve, just too much pretense of something else. br, Qui Shon, professional party pooper, because truth, ya'know. Too much bs around.
This is very true :) it is mostly about the explosions |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
435
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Posted - 2012.05.25 18:59:00 -
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Klarion Sythis wrote:I definitely endorse the no blues policy. In higher class wormholes at least, it already takes a long time to roll into a hole that has people in it, and nothing would be more aggravating than to finally find targets and see that they're blue. There's also no need to blue anyone. Most of the time, people aren't trying to evict you, so you don't need allies to help you defend your home unless your favorite pass time is going around throwing sand in people's eyes. Now if you go blue everyone up and won't fight anybody, then you might very well need those blues...
ADHC endorses this.
We call it "FAP NOT NAP"!
Friendly Aggression Pact not Non-Aggression Pact.
Friendly aggression pact means we shoot each other in the face today. Tomorrow we band together to shoot someone else in the face, and the day after we shoot each other in the face some more.
Blues and Pinks are for babies.
ADHC, FAP friendly, Nap Intolerant.
Asay will be happy his art is appreciated!
Wormholes: The *NEW* end game of Eve - Online: No Local. No Lag. No Blues (No Intell Channesl). No Blobs.
NEW FEATURE: NO INCARNA! |
Sarina Berghil
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
46
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:19:00 -
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I condone Asuri's message.
But I will also say that Wh corps can be very different in how they do things. Some like gunboat diplomacy, others like helping each other out and creating bonds.
This is sometimes related to size and power. Large powerful corps can get away with being more aggresive, smaller corps needs to be pragmatic more often.
Whether fapping or napping most corps are good sports about it, I like that. |
Memoocan
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
15
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Posted - 2012.05.25 19:45:00 -
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I heard there was fapping so I came.
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Asayanami Dei
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
144
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:05:00 -
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W-space is like fight club. We punch you in the face in hope you will punch back, but when you need help to kick someone else in the balls, we're there for you.
As a diplo i must say, it's not uncommon among wh dwellers to ask for help and recieve it from their 'enemies' they shoot and smack every other day of the week. It's all for good fun and well being of the wh pvp community, which IMO is one of the best in eve.
We dont care much for politics (at least adhocracy doesn't), all we care about is having friends we can shoot when we can/want and be able to team up with them a day after to fight off somebody else.
As long as you play along, fight when there's a fight to be had, keep it civil, you'll do great here.
My youtube channel Video Thread |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
243
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:18:00 -
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Godfrey Silvarna wrote:Shoot ship first, shoot pod second and ask questions later.
I have never understood people who announce their prencence in Local, not to mention expecting others to do the same.
I announce my prescense all the time, mostly because people just run away. |
Ayeson
Hard Knocks Inc.
36
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Posted - 2012.05.25 20:34:00 -
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Cybus Max wrote:Theres a difference between asking for a route out if someone becomes trapped and being blue.
If someone asks for a route out then it is up to the discression of the people involved. Most people are willing to pay for a way out but if you refuse outright fair enough, don't expect to catch the person if they know what there doing they will log out as soon as they see the probes.... And then SD l8tr.
Only thing i would say if you agree to give a route out don't then backstab them... This tends to end with you getting invaded :)
Also i seriously disagree with WH perma blue coalitions. Doing the occasioanly op with other WH entities because you either fancy something different or can't handle it solo fair enough but perma blue... Go live in 0.0
In Local "Help guys, My WH closed and my legion is trapped at a planet" - Cybus
HRDKX Command Channel "Aw dude hes stuck, lets help him" - Ayeson
Then there was a really bad attempt at baiting with a proteus and i died :( Ask me about Rengas-dar, HRDKX's Most recent, groundbreaking, game-changing, wormhole-collapsing research endeavour. |
Cybus Max
Bite Me inc Exhale.
3
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Posted - 2012.05.25 23:08:00 -
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i didn't say anything about lying about being trapped out :P
I admit to the really bad go at baiting but TBF props to hard knocks when they engaged they knew we had a decent fleet and they still went for it
It may also interest you to know that in that particular fight our 'scout' missed your entire fleet and it was only when i was acting like a noob warping round system that I noticed the large number of ships on D scan and subsequently **** myself and demanded that the guards damn well add me to their watch lists :P |
Apolyon I
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
48
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Posted - 2012.05.25 23:32:00 -
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Qui Shon wrote:Celery Man wrote:I believe your looking at it the wrong way OP, everyone in wormhole space is very friendly, its just that our prefered handshake is a pitched battle with spaceships.
This isn't some kind of metaphor that were all bloodthirsty, we just purely enjoy having spaceship battles, and living in wormhole spae affords us the ISK to fly really really fun spaceships. It really really isn't any more complicated than that.
The only time people run foul of large scale group action is when someone wants to use wormholes for anything other than a paradise full of people to battle with, and plenty of ISK to support said battles in fine fashion. Many people *say* they want pitched battles, they may even believe it, but in the end what they really want is to win first, and will gladly sacrifice the "pitched" bit to that end. W-space is no different in this regard. Nothing wrong with that mind, it is the nature of Eve, just too much pretense of something else. br, Qui Shon, professional party pooper, because truth, ya'know. Too much bs around. not really, what's the fun to shoot at things that don't shoot back?? |
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