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SheriffFruitfly Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:02:00 - [61] Originally by: Insa Rexion Edited by: Insa Rexion on 18/08/2009 21:59:09 "Our philosophy is: The guys playing the game are more important then the game itself." I lol'd Irony: I was reading all of this, wondering why ccp hates it suscribers. __________________________________________________________
Insa Rexion Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:03:00 - [62] just a thought, the guy mentioned that the DUST players will all be mercs, presumably this is to accomodate the mechanic of Eve players contracting missions and them being able to accept whichever one they want or smth. Won't this be rather SH in terms of Eve players wanting to play Dust to defend their systems from Eve but perhaps having to defend someone else's space cuz someone already took that job ? Aside from that concern, isn't it a bit of a ridiculous scenario that in space everyone is allied and fighting for the cause, but planetside evryone is a merc and just in it for the money ? Sounds pretty stooopid to me. well mannered ah***
Shun Makoto Caldari 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit Balance of Judgment	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:03:00 - [63] Most of you are also missing that fact that CCP wants Corps and Alliances to host their own Armies. Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Signatures must also contain content relevant to your character or EVE Online. Begpo KpoBu
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:04:00 - [64] Originally by: Shun Makoto Most of you are also missing that fact that CCP wants Corps and Alliances to host their own Armies. Uhh, actually, it doesn't say that anywhere. It clearly states everyone in DUST is merc that accepts contractual missions.
Insa Rexion Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:05:00 - [65] Originally by: Shun Makoto Most of you are also missing that fact that CCP wants Corps and Alliances to host their own Armies. That's not what i read, sounds like you just hire mercs to me, did i miss something ? (I am being sincere BTW) well mannered ah*
Micah Harper	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:05:00 - [66] Edited by: Micah Harper on 18/08/2009 22:06:08 Originally by: Insa Rexion Originally by: Shun Makoto Most of you are also missing that fact that CCP wants Corps and Alliances to host their own Armies. That's not what i read, sounds like you just hire mercs to me, did i miss something ? (I am being sincere BTW) Did any of you watch the Trailer where H. talks about this? *Stupid default char reset again....GRRRR
rubico1337	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:07:00 - [67] i think all you PC fps elitists that think that you cant have a good fps on a console need to shove it and get off your high horses
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:08:00 - [68] Well if that's the case, and it's buried in some obscure trailer, maybe he should learn to answer interview questions better. If you read that interview, he makes a bunch of really scary implications.
Joxias Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:08:00 - [69] Originally by: Insa Rexion Originally by: Shun Makoto Most of you are also missing that fact that CCP wants Corps and Alliances to host their own Armies. That's not what i read, sounds like you just hire mercs to me, did i miss something ? (I am being sincere BTW) I took away it was all mercs as well. However I suppose you could build your own armies with enough loyal soldiers.
Twilight Princess	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:09:00 - [70] i see a large issue well any big 0.0 alliance would just spend money on carrier/mom fighters and ammo for capital guns to just wipe the enemy squad out instead of paying some merc thats loyalty lies where the money is to do it for them. but i guess ccp wont let us attack planetery squads wiht our capitals wich is unrealistic in a such a game as eve. eve is about players doing things their own way so i would barrage the planet until the troops surrendered then get em into the open and fire another barrage. so my opinion is its a ambitous idea but also a rubbish one

Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:11:00 - [71] Edited by: Gnulpie on 18/08/2009 22:16:28 Originally by: Spurty Originally by: Gnulpie We need TONS more interaction between Eve and DUST. Same corp/alliance memberships. Same chat channels. Providing captured/built industrial complexes to the Eve world. Weapon deliveries from Eve to Dust. etc. This is probably the least thought out comment I've read for a long while. Mercenaries don't exist in corporations and alliances. You are either doing it for your corp / alliance or yourself .. for ISK .. a mercenary. CCP must never allow the Xbox player to know the name of their benefactors Care to explain? I for my part would think that for example the Triumvirate alliance would like to have a DUST based corp which can do the ground fighting while their conventional corps support their DUST teams with doing some fleet fights in space. Lots of you guys know each other pretty well and maybe would like to do some FPS fighting together in DUST as well? So why not fighting then for the benefits of Triumvirate directly? Now wouldn't it be a really ugly and bad form of communication to use 3rd party software like jabber and wouldn't it be much better and faster if your guys on the ground can talk with you guys in space on the same alliance channel? The 'hire anonymous mercs via a random contract' is just so unimaginative and really shallow compared to the possibilities and potential complexity when you increase the interaction between those two clients drastically! Besides if you read my whole post you will discover that I also wrote : "We need MORE AND TIGHTER ties between Eve and Dust, not only silly merc contracts!" So, maybe explain your point of view and why that what I wrote is the least thought out you read for a while?
Insa Rexion Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:24:00 - [72] What i want to know... is there something weird in the planetary atmospheres that makes EVERYONE a money grabbing merc despite the fact that in space they are a proud member of the tribal liberation force or morsus mihi etc etc ? well mannered ah*
Lady Puket Ministry of Destruction SCUM.	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:29:00 - [73] MY DUST MARINES
Lady Puket Ministry of Destruction SCUM.	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:31:00 - [74] Well, to be honest this is pretty lame. If the only form of interaction is through merc contracts, I've pretty much lost interest.
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:32:00 - [75] Originally by: Insa Rexion What i want to know... is there something weird in the planetary atmospheres that makes EVERYONE a money grabbing merc despite the fact that in space they are a proud member of the tribal liberation force or morsus mihi etc etc ? Yes, it's the same aerosol agent that caused CCP to think making a console FPS have any bearing on EVE sovereignty was a good idea.
Joxias Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:34:00 - [76] Edited by: Joxias on 18/08/2009 22:34:17 Originally by: Lady Puket Well, to be honest this is pretty lame. If the only form of interaction is through merc contracts, I've pretty much lost interest. He didnt answer a ton of questions nor did the interviewer ask them all. This is the cliff jumping I am seeing here. Patience is a virtue not shared by many I can see.
William Idoru	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:34:00 - [77] Incorporating planets more fully into the Eve Universe and making them something beyond pretty balls to warp past - Good Adding additional forms of game play that give the player the feeling of being a real person and not just a ship in space - Good Adding depth and greater realism into the game creating a more immersive experience - Good Putting it on consoles in a separate universe but one which still affects those of us without the resources to play in it - WTF!? This is insane. If CCP wants to add a new dimension to the game I'm all for it, but if they think that I'm going to go get a new system (no way it'll be both for XBox and PS3, Microsoft and Sony aren't going to link their systems for this,) then CP is out of their minds. Either make it a completely separate game like SC Ghost was supposed to be, or make it a fully integrated part of the existing game. Making Eve a game where you have to shell out for multiple subs and systems just to stay competitive in the sovereignty wars is way too much. I'm not saying that's whats definitely going to happen, but what I've read so far seems to imply this. CCP, you've dropped a bomb on your community today, and guess what? We're your loyal subscriber base, and YES, you do owe us some answers. We shouldn't have to wait, we should know now what direction this game is taking, clearly, unambiguously, and honestly. We have a right to know so that we can make our decisions as to if this is still the game for us.
Red Raider Caldari Airbourne Demons DeMoN's N AnGeL's	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:38:00 - [78] Originally by: Gunner Dark No , i'm not kidding , is the control scheme the only thing you consider "dumbing down" ? if not what is the difference ? Hardcore PC twitchers generally can't live without macro programed keyboards and mice much less the blatant ability to speed hack or some other crap they think is fair. The truth is that usually these lamers are not that good without the macro's and hacks. So of course they think console games fail. Having to compete on the level makes them suck. I can't wait for the flames on this one. A happy gamer isnt on the forums, they are playing the game unless they have an idea that they honestly think is helping out.
Braskyte	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:39:00 - [79] Coming to consoles? Seriously am I a second rate citizen here? I don't mind shooting some spaceships and then jumping down into planetary action, but if I'm left out simply because I don't want to buy a console, then screw this ****. The idea given by this presentation is that 0.0 will not be owned by playing EVE anymore and you will have to rely on someone else doing that - this is very frustrating. Bsically if you do everything sucesfully like now and take space - ALL of that won't matter if your mercs can't beat he other Corp hired mercs and you sit around waiting and waiting. I can't belive CCP doesn't think for 5 mins into the future. What's next? Letting monkeys influence the economy by throwing poo at price tags, thus setting new ore prices? Yes, I'm very disappointed by this. Mostly because it's opposite what butterfly vid promoted - MY actions matter and I can interact with every single player on same league here, while this new product means I just had part of my demi-god powers taken away.
Sertan Deras Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:39:00 - [80] Edited by: Sertan Deras on 18/08/2009 22:39:57 Microsoft and Sony don't need to link their systems. There is already a cross-platform MMO that plays across systems, Final Fantasy XI. Plays on the 360, PS2 and PC, and plays just fine. It can be done, because CCP won't be using Microsoft's or Sony's servers, they will be using their own servers. You won't be playing on Live or PSN servers, you'll only be using Live/PSN to get the network capability of your console spun up. Again, this has already been done with FFXI. That said, this doesn't make anything about DUST a good idea. Especially having it effect the EVE universe in any meaningful way.

EVE's WeekendWarrior	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:41:00 - [81] CCP takes the metagaming community to the next level by making the games depend on each other, thus when you are mainly into one game, you metagame the other to get better for your main. The EVE main plays Dust to get control in EVE. The Dust player plays EVE to get money (sort of). Anyways, CCP is bound to make lots of money from this exploitation of the fanboys and girls of EVE Online, at least for the short term. For more detailed speculations, read here: http://evewarrior.com/archives/a-nasty-marketing-ploy Thanks for reading! * * * * * Tony "EVE's Weekend Warrior" Blog @ evewarrior.com Twitter @ twitter.com/evewarrior
Zartanic	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:43:00 - [82] Edited by: Zartanic on 18/08/2009 22:45:05 CCP are assuming EVE players will form or break alliances and friendships with Dust players as easily as they do in EVE itself. That's not an unreasonable assumption especially as they have announced new online tools to do that. I see this as a smart way to have a half way house between EVE as it is now and EVE with full blown planetary interaction as well without causing the NGE style issues. Once this system is in place they can gradually introduce more mechanics, as and when its safe to do so. IF players want EVE to evolve and progress the way CCP have always said they wanted its not going to happen with 300,000 subs.
Cybelee Caldari The Ancient One's The Firm.	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:43:00 - [83] Intersting read, thanks for posting. It will be interesting to see how this one works out. I like the idea of the 2 platforms linking together. It will be good to see this in action Soon(tm). I just hope it does not change the way eve is to much. Creator of www.eve-online-fan.co.uk
Titan Pilot Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:45:00 - [84] Implementation might be a bit rough but I think its a brilliant idea. CCP > BLIZZARD
AztecD GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:45:00 - [85] I donÆt want to have to buy a dam console, make it a PC gate at least. Also i really donÆt like the idea of random mercs deciding the outcome of sov on a planet/system/const/region. I mean, then why play EVE spaceships if they wonÆt matter to sov. Cap ship pilots are the ones who are really getting boned here, well more so than the rest of us.
Joxias Caldari	Posted - 2009.08.18 22:52:00 - [86] Originally by: AztecD I donÆt want to have to buy a dam console, make it a PC gate at least. Also i really donÆt like the idea of random mercs deciding the outcome of sov on a planet/system/const/region. I mean, then why play EVE spaceships if they wonÆt matter to sov. Cap ship pilots are the ones who are really getting boned here, well more so than the rest of us. Its not just the mercs people jeez and you dont even know how much they will really matter. I know it must burst zergs like the goons bubble that now there is more than just the zerg to consider.
VonCruix	Posted - 2009.08.18 23:06:00 - [87] I think I will take the wait and see approach. They've already put 3-years into this, I doubt they are gonna be swayed much atm. If they start small and modify as needed, it may turn out well.
Nol Agnot Nightwatch Immortal	Posted - 2009.08.18 23:17:00 - [88] Originally by: Rixar im pretty sure this is only for FW, in the trailer you the fight takes place on Itaki V, yes i know Intaki is not a FW system but this might be a hint. What trailer, where? Delenda est achura.
JitaPriceChecker2	Posted - 2009.08.18 23:19:00 - [89] Originally by: William Idoru Putting it on consoles in a separate universe but one which still affects those of us without the resources to play in it - WTF!?
Nef Erator hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.08.18 23:28:00 - [90] Bit concerned about this. Possibly the interview and vid posted were misleading but it seems to imply that planetary control determines soveriegnty and DUST players determine planetary control to a much greater extent than regular EVE players... I really hope there is more to it than this. Otherwise, what is the point in fighting for territorial control in the main (ie current) game? I guess we have to have faith that CCP have thought this through a lot more than the info available so far seems to imply. After all it is not in CCP's best interest to make their current subscribers quit en mass (or is it..?).



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