That's unfortunate.

However, don't be so quick to get rid of your stuff. Take a month off. A break can put things into perspective. You may find your enthusiasm for the game returns.

if ccp is smart they should have a customer portfolio with the make up, amount and general player profiles. it should tell them that the long term players (the ones that drives the sandbox (o.o dwellers)) are 0.0 players and that high sec character amounts are mosty alts of 0.0 players.... in short: high sec players pnly play a fraction of the time 0.0 players are playing.... 0.0 players make this game... why should ccp continue to listen to these players that quit anyway in a few months? expecialy afyrr the big player decrease when there was a cataclism of canceled subscriptiond due this 5months ago?

quit whining, go do social like eve is desighned and join a 0.0 mining corp or whine that ccp isnt promoting eve more as a social game where it actualy is a social unwritten rule that players should join a player driven corp...


just a quick brainfart

Low sec and WH combined make up only 13% of the pop. Null is 20%.

http://scaurus.com/lowsec-by-the-numbers/

No thanks for your random Fantasy Facts.

Even given your own numbers there, and assuming each 0.0 account had a corresponding high sec account, that means all 0.0 + their alts only egual 40% of the game.

The rest of us 60% would like you guys to stop shoving policy down ccp's throat simply because your the most vocal on the forums.

And now equally theoretical numbers fantasized out of a hat. Congra-bu-lations.

And CCP put themselves in the position to have the mittani 'dictate' (boy is that apt) Policy.

I fantasized nothing, YOU are the one who said there are 20% of accounts in 0.0 and YOU are the one who said every account in 0.0 has a high sec alt. I was using YOUR numbers to come up with 40% of players are from people who play in 0.0

And that, is being quite generous to YOUR fantasy.

WOW. Just wow. Those are not 'my' numbers. I did not write that article. I did not pull the data.

Any fool can see that.

You are just full of crap this morning.

GTFO of the Forums please before the really mean poasters arrive and really get you going and you make more of a silly-person out of yourself.

Yes I know this is a sandbox but if someone is circumventing the game mechanics, its an exploit.

If you have 100B in the bank you don't mine. (Unless you are a botter ofc.)

There are an awful lot more people messing about in low sec and wormholes than null sec.
EVE is not designed around players joining null sec mining corporations.

They are your numbers because you came onto these forums like a self proclaimed prophet using them to discredit someone and spewing them from your keyboard like you doublechecked them yourself in your MIT lab.

Next time stfu or own up to the filth you spewed on these forums.

Even given your own numbers there, and assuming each 0.0 account had a corresponding high sec account, that means all 0.0 + their alts only egual 40% of the game.

The rest of us 60% would like you guys to stop shoving policy down ccp's throat simply because your the most vocal on the forums.

Yesterday one of my hulks got killed by 7 ships in in hi sec. All of these players had a security rating of -8 or worse. Im very cautious when I mine but you cant hide a Hulk very easily. Normally the high-sec game mechanics work pretty good. CCP has allowed Goonswarm to circumvent these game mechanics. Yes I know this is a sandbox but if someone is circumventing the game mechanics, its an exploit. Im not going to plead proverty. I have enouph ISK to play my three accounts for several more years. Why should I if game mechanics allow 7 players with a security rating less than -8 to play in high-sec with emmunity. When CCP has returned hi-sec to more reasonable game play I will return.

I think all high-sec players should think about taking a vacation from EVE. The only thing CCP cares about is monitary loss. This is the only way high-sec players can get thier attention.

Pirates that want my stuff can meet me in Jita at 1930 hours on Saturday.

I think the EvE online statistic graph speaks for its self.
You sir are just in denial.

Are you talking about the graph that shows average online players rising constantly since Incarna?

There is actually quite a downturn since 4/25. Obvious is Obvious. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

This is very true. The average player per day has dropped from 33k in march to just over 23k last week.

Thats a huge drop and something CCP needs to be paying attention to.

yesterday (a Friday) was the LOWEST Friday server population since I started playing in Jan 2010.

Numbers are about at pre-Dominion.

It's sad.

This is very true. The average player per day has dropped from 33k in march to just over 23k last week.

Thats a huge drop and something CCP needs to be paying attention to.

Where exactly did you get 23k from? Because looking at the graphs I see an average of 38k every single weekend. The only time it drops down to 23k is around 4am GMT during the week, which is hardly a surprise. As for the drop of around 5k players in the last month or so, that is something that happens about the same time every year.

Yesterday one of my hulks got killed by 7 ships in in hi sec. All of these players had a security rating of -8 or worse. Im very cautious when I mine but you cant hide a Hulk very easily. Normally the high-sec game mechanics work pretty good. CCP has allowed Goonswarm to circumvent these game mechanics. Yes I know this is a sandbox but if someone is circumventing the game mechanics, its an exploit. Im not going to plead proverty. I have enouph ISK to play my three accounts for several more years. Why should I if game mechanics allow 7 players with a security rating less than -8 to play in high-sec with emmunity. When CCP has returned hi-sec to more reasonable game play I will return.

I think all high-sec players should think about taking a vacation from EVE. The only thing CCP cares about is monitary loss. This is the only way high-sec players can get thier attention.

Pirates that want my stuff can meet me in Jita at 1930 hours on Saturday.

You cant look at recent graphs as they have raw data. The bottom graph of all time history does a running daily average. If you look on the far left part of the graph you see a VERY noticeable downturn in the last 3 weeks. Hover your mouse over and you will see daily averages in the 23k to 26k range for the last half of May.

Total online at any given data point is not relevant, total average for a given day is. And any time you have a Sunday with an average below 30k you can without reasonable doubt say that the player base simply is not logging in.

Now look at the averages over the last few weeks in the graphs near the top of the page, specifically the dates running from the 14th to 31st of May, and note the TIMES when the users numbers dropped to those levels. The major drop off starts at around midnight GMT, which for most of Europe is around 1-3am, hardly a surprise you get a drop off at that time of the morning, and it then continues right through until downtime, also hardly a surprise.

If you are going to quote figures, at least bother to check the context of those figures.

Dude, averages are averages... doesnt matter if 150k players log in for 15 minutes at one time if there are 0 players logged in the rest of the day.

Those top graphs are not averages, they are raw figures taken at specific points in the day, and even the peaks are lower than they were.

Learn to read graphs 5th grade style then come back here and use big boy forum pvp.

That's a contradiction to:



If you have 100B in the bank you don't mine. (Unless you are a botter ofc.)

(tick tick tick tick) 2 accounts with 15 days left. 2 already dead. Done and done.

Ohh poor silly goon chillrens. Nobody in high sec cares about your plans to occupy jita like a bunch of dirty hippies.
"....as if 10,058 Goon voices cried out and were suddenly silenced."

To King Aires,

I should like to make it clear that I do not deny that there has been a drop in the average number of people logging in, all that I disagree on is the exact cause of that drop. Most people discussing this subject seem only to focus on possible in game reasons, and seem utterly unwilling or incapable of even entertaining the prospect that outside influences are also at work here.

I should like to make it clear that I do not deny that there has been a drop in the average number of people logging in, all that I disagree on is the exact cause of that drop. Most people discussing this subject seem only to focus on possible in game reasons, and seem utterly unwilling or incapable of even entertaining the prospect that outside influences are also at work here.