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Eternum Praetorian Retribution. Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.27 18:11:00 - [1] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2009 18:12:03 Day One In Providence, left a very good impression: I remember my first days as a young pod pilot almost 2 years ago . . . I was so young that for the life of me I could not even properly outfit a tech 2 fitted Rifter. My first corporation, at the time, were all in a similar state of development, when were wardecÆd by a corporation that out numbered us by over one hundred strong. Even though we ourselves were barely 15 active, rookie pilots. We fought bravely, and we lost many frigates, battlecruiser, and pods fighting a hopeless cause within the Caldari region of Empire. I recall the day when the oldest and most experienced of us said these words: ôWe should head south to CVA. There, we will find sanctuary . . .ö And so we did . . . we had little choice. Upon entering the N8XA-L system, I was surprised to see it so full of ratters from so many different Corporation, working peacefully together, side by side. I watched local, impressed by the fleets that mobilized to fight the local pirates, fleets that appeared to do so for no apparent personal gain. A very rare thing in New Eden . . . As expected, our wardec ended soon after. Our wardecÆers would not dare follow us into Providence. I remember thinking after that öthere is so much potential here.ö As that first corporation of my past slowly grew, we too did our best to join the many fleets policing Providence. Present day: Today is a new day, and I am now the CEO of a new, much more powerful corporation, one that is on the verge of forging an alliance of notable strength and collective resources. As of this moment, my pilots (the pilots of Retribution. Inc. and our growing list of allied corporations pending for enterance into the alliance that Retribution. Inc. is about to host) can be seen patrolling Providence nightly in 15+ member gangs of BS/HAC/HIC/IntyÆs/SB and recons. In the past month, we have fought side by side with gangs from likes of CVA, Paxton, and the Apothesis of Virtue, as well as many others. This letterÆs intent, is to announce both our arrival, as well as our honorable intentions in Providence. In 1 weeks time our alliance will go active, when that happens hundreds of active pilots will be under the executive command of Retribution. Inc. and our presence in your region will spike. Once we earn our Citadel Access (which we are on the verge of completing with our score of reds, and 1 months time spent patrolling in your region) a significant fighting force will be added to the collective strength of Providence. My eagar pilots, with significant combined SP and experience, will, with a furious tenacity, hunt down and take on any reds that they encounter . . . Providence will be our new home outside of empire, and all those who inhabit it peacefully are will be our friends. Letter is concluded. --Eternum Praetorian, CEO and sole founder of Retribution. Inc., and executor of an alliance that does not yet bear a name.
Havohej Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics	Posted - 2009.08.27 18:36:00 - [2] I'd set you red, but it seems like you're just another provipet like those Ishkrata-generic Caldari guys... not worth the standings slot. "You can still steal their stuff." - CCP Explorer
Neu Bastian Minmatar Valklear Guard Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.27 18:42:00 - [3] Edited by: Neu Bastian on 27/08/2009 18:41:49 15+? by providence terms I believe that counts as a "solo incursion/roam" You'll get a warm welcome :) Quote: Neu Bastian Valklear Guard - CEO
Yoshitaka Moromuo Distant Light Galactic Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2009.08.27 18:53:00 - [4] Originally by: Havohej I'd set you red, but it seems like you're just another provipet like those Ishkrata-generic Caldari guys... not worth the standings slot. Actually, according to your standings information page, ((OOC: Killboard)) you have the Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive set as "red" for a rather ambiguous cited reason - "Crimes against the Tribes." As political advisor, I would like to request the specifications of those crimes be posted, so that they may be investigated and judged by our peers here at the Summit. I would further argue this point, but it is not my place to do so.
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:03:00 - [5] Another one? When will people start standing on their own two feet instead of huddling under the skirts of CVA? A man can never achieve freedom by deferring decision making to another. A warrior cannot grow strong when he refuses a challenge. Still, you side with slavers and you share their fate. Why not move your corporation to the Curse region? Or is it that you need a crutch?
Eternum Praetorian Retribution. Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:25:00 - [6] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2009 20:29:14 Originally by: Xennith Another one? When will people start standing on their own two feet instead of huddling under the skirts of CVA? A man can never achieve freedom by deferring decision making to another. A warrior cannot grow strong when he refuses a challenge. Still, you side with slavers and you share their fate. Why not move your corporation to the Curse region? Or is it that you need a crutch? This is interesting rhetorick, you assume far to much. Do you know the places where we frequent? Whether or not we enjoy playing in Curse? Where did I say I "defer decision making?" I clearly stated my reasons why I have remained CVA friendly for 2 years in the short, bridged account of my earliest days among the stars. Just as I am sure that you to, have such an account, one that makes a Caldari hate the Amarr so, as if you, yourself, were somehow a full blooded "Ushra'Khan Minmatar" Something pushed you to your system of beliefs, I believe I have proclaimed mine in vast clarity. shall we hear your story?
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Where did I say I "defer decision making?" So you intend to set your own standings ignoring the CVA demanded +10/-10 list for activity in Providence then? Have fun with that. Heartstone. ---
Dr Edart	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:44:00 - [8] Sounds like Umust Kloak are sad that people have found Providence, and found it to thier liking. While CVA, Paxton, Steel, LFA, and Severance build an Empire in 0.0 for anyoe to use and benefit from, all Umust Kloak can do is talk about how horrible it is for them to keep succeeding doing that. I dont live there, visited a few times, but dont worry about them and enjoy your new home and the fun your going to have there!
Dr Edart	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:46:00 - [9] Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Where did I say I "defer decision making?" So you intend to set your own standings ignoring the CVA demanded +10/-10 list for activity in Providence then? Have fun with that. Heartstone. Yes it is horrible that CVA have set forth a system that allows people to know who are hostile and who are friendly, and who are neutral in a NRDS Region, how dare they do that!
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:48:00 - [10] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Something pushed you to your system of beliefs, I believe I have proclaimed mine in vast clarity. shall we hear your story? How can you dock at a Providence station, and walk about the station, seeing your former brothers all around you being beaten by your new masters for whatever whimsical reason they might have, then ask with any degree of sincerity why a dedicated freedom fighter of any background might look upon you with well-deserved scorn for you choice to kneel to the rule of the Amarrian despots who created such a place? -- Becq Starforged The Flame of Freedom Burns On!
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:49:00 - [11] Edited by: Heartstone on 27/08/2009 20:50:37 Originally by: Dr Edart Yes it is horrible that CVA have set forth a system that allows people to know who are hostile and who are friendly, and who are neutral in a NRDS Region, how dare they do that! Yeah Free thought is so overrated isn't it? This way I can attack people who have done nothing to me. Have never attacked me. Never even shown ANY hostile intent towards me simply because CVA say so. Where do I sign? Grow up and stop asking for permission to do as you see fit. Heartstone. ---
Becq Starforged Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:54:00 - [12] People such as yourself all too often look at what riches might accrue to you by declaring allegiance to one overlord or another. You say, "Here are some asteroids I can mine and become rich" or "There, in that space are pirates who I can destroy and collect bounties on", rather than seeing the truth all around you of the lives ruined to give you a station at which to rest, refuel, and rearm. Those lives may be meaningless to you next to your pursuit of your almighty god named "isk", but not to us. And all those who support the Slaver make themselves targets. -- Becq Starforged The Flame of Freedom Burns On!
Havohej Minmatar Du'uma Fiisi Integrated Astrometrics	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Yo**aka Moromuo Originally by: Havohej I'd set you red, but it seems like you're just another provipet like those Ishkrata-generic Caldari guys... not worth the standings slot. Actually, according to your standings information page, ((OOC: Killboard)) you have the Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive set as "red" for a rather ambiguous cited reason - "Crimes against the Tribes." As political advisor, I would like to request the specifications of those crimes be posted, so that they may be investigated and judged by our peers here at the Summit. I would further argue this point, but it is not my place to do so. That was done at a time when it was unclear just how many enemies our people truly had outside of the Amarr Empire. As soon as it became obvious that most of the cluster had reason to act against the best interests of the Minmatar people, we decided to be much more selective in who we specified negative standings towards... given that we're NBSI outside of Minmatar and Thukker space, you'll agree that it doesn't really make any difference whether an enemy is 'officially' red or not. "You can still steal their stuff." - CCP Explorer
Eternum Praetorian Retribution. Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:56:00 - [14] Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Where did I say I "defer decision making?" So you intend to set your own standings ignoring the CVA demanded +10/-10 list for activity in Providence then? Have fun with that. Heartstone. More mindless rhetorick . . . CVA doesn't demand that any settings are set, all they demand is a peaceful coexistence. A peaceful coexistence with our neighbors suits me just fine.
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.27 20:57:00 - [15] Originally by: Heartstone Yeah Free thought is so overrated isn't it? This way I can attack people who have done nothing to me. Have never attacked me. Never even shown ANY hostile intent towards me simply because CVA say so. Where do I sign? On the other hand, joining Star Fraction will mean roughly the same thing. Or don't you have to abide by SF's red list once you join SF nowadays? ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:00:00 - [16] Originally by: Merdaneth On the other hand, joining Star Fraction will mean roughly the same thing. Or don't you have to abide by SF's red list once you join SF nowadays? Yes but if I chose to leave SF and not follow their Red/Blue list in the space they operate in I am not set to red and shot on sight. Good grief Merd at least try to form a half decent argument without just taking things so far from the basic context that they are in a different universe. I know that's how your master in PIE have taught you to talk to us naughty people but frankly it's beyond a joke. Heartstone. ---
Heartstone Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian CVA doesn't demand that any settings are set, Woops. Wrong. Next please. Heartstone. ---
Eternum Praetorian Retribution. Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:04:00 - [18] Originally by: Heartstone Edited by: Heartstone on 27/08/2009 20:50:37 Originally by: Dr Edart Yes it is horrible that CVA have set forth a system that allows people to know who are hostile and who are friendly, and who are neutral in a NRDS Region, how dare they do that! Yeah Free thought is so overrated isn't it? This way I can attack people who have done nothing to me. Have never attacked me. Never even shown ANY hostile intent towards me simply because CVA say so. Where do I sign? Grow up and stop asking for permission to do as you see fit. Heartstone. Does this have anything to do with being in CVA at all? If you see a red in CVA dock up and don't fight. If you refuse to mark him as red, then go ahead and loose your ship and take a free ride to wherever your clone is stationed. This has no relation at all to this thread or CVA policy.
Eternum Praetorian Retribution. Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:06:00 - [19] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 27/08/2009 21:06:25 Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Eternum Praetorian CVA doesn't demand that any settings are set, Woops. Wrong. Next please. Heartstone. Woops. Wrong Again..... See I can do that to. CVA couldn't give a Rats *** who we set to blue or red, so long as we coexist. You sir are assuming piracy . . .
Xennith Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:08:00 - [20] OK, prove us wrong. Set U'K blue.
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:08:00 - [21] Originally by: Heartstone Originally by: Merdaneth On the other hand, joining Star Fraction will mean roughly the same thing. Or don't you have to abide by SF's red list once you join SF nowadays? Yes but if I chose to leave SF and not follow their Red/Blue list in the space they operate in I am not set to red and shot on sight. Good grief Merd at least try to form a half decent argument without just taking things so far from the basic context that they are in a different universe. I know that's how your master in PIE have taught you to talk to us naughty people but frankly it's beyond a joke. Heartstone. Depends entirely on who you join and who you shoot after leaving SF Heartstone. As I remember SF has a tendency to set corporations 'to red' for ideological reasons only. Which roughly means, if you leave SF and start thinking or behaving in a way SF they don't like, you are set to red on shot when convenient. Not thinking like SF wants you to and flying around in Kamela can has its consequences, the same for CVA and Providence. Really, no difference there. ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Eternum Praetorian Retribution. Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:12:00 - [22] Originally by: Xennith OK, prove us wrong. Set U'K blue. Go ahead and set us to blue and never engage us then See I can do that also . . . Don't you have a past account to be writing?
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:14:00 - [23] Originally by: Xennith Another one? When will people start standing on their own two feet instead of huddling under the skirts of CVA? When space has been taken over by peace-loving Amarrian forces rather than marauding pirates like yourself? Originally by: Xennith A man can never achieve freedom by deferring decision making to another. A warrior cannot grow strong when he refuses a challenge. Still, you side with slavers and you share their fate. Why not move your corporation to the Curse region? Or is it that you need a crutch? In some nations they indeed leave the weak to his own devices. In the Empire one offers him a hand, helps him to get stronger, protects him from those that would bully or abuse him because of his weakness. Invariably, the bullies call it 'a crutch'. ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:17:00 - [24] Edited by: Solusar on 27/08/2009 21:18:24 Originally by: Xennith OK, prove us wrong. Set U'K blue. Here is a list of the only rules we enforce, easy to find if you bothered to look beyond your own lies. No standing lists are forced upon people in Providence, if they wish to set you blue they are free to but as you shoot anything that moves in Providence I doubt they will choose to. A list of people we consider a threat to those operating in Providence is published for people to study. Greater Providence is open for transit, commerce, faction bounty hunting and asteroid mining to all pilots, corporations, and alliances who obey the law If attacked, lawful pilots, corporations and alliances may defend themselves to the fullest extent of their ability No pilot, corporation or alliance shall conduct piracy No pilot, corporation or alliance shall extort, blackmail or give ransoms No pilot, corporation or alliance shall defraud or swindle to obtain ISK, an object, rights or anything of value belonging to another No pilot, corporation or alliance shall initiate an attack against another unless that pilot, corporation or alliance is expressly wanted on the Deliverance KOS List No pilot, corporation or alliance shall anchor a station or outpost without the express permission of the constellationÆs Administrator Corporations shall be held accountable for the actions of their pilots and Alliances shall be held accountable for the actions of their corporations CONCORD sanctioned wars shall not release a pilot, corporation or alliance from adherence to the law The High Magistrate shall mediate all challenges and disputes and his/her ruling in such matters shall be final and conclusive
Kazzzi Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:23:00 - [25] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Originally by: Xennith OK, prove us wrong. Set U'K blue. Go ahead and set us to blue and never engage us then See I can do that also . . . Don't you have a past account to be writing? Great Idea! Hey CVA, we're negotiating a mutual NAP with Eternum here, you ok with that? You ok with letting them dock in Provi after we finalize the agreement? No? Oh they need to follow your red/blue list to live there? Roger that.
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:29:00 - [26] Some people will just say you are oppressing their right to extort, blackmail and pirate Solusar. Oddly enough they feel they should be able to pirate and extort as they see fit, as if they are entitled that right, but apparently nobody is entitled the right to oppress? Odd confusing creatures they are. The proof of the effectiveness of the CVA policy, similar to that of the Amarr Empire, is in its stability and the size of its populace. There are no 0.0 regions more populated or have more stable governments that Providence does. Some may do not like these facts, but facts they are. ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Kazzzi Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:35:00 - [27] Originally by: Merdaneth When space has been taken over by peace-loving Amarrian forces rather than marauding pirates like yourself? No, you're the dirty pirate!!! Kazzzi takes a swig of liquor then draws a picture of Merdaneth with an eyepatch and a peg leg See?!! I have proof!!!
Invelious Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:35:00 - [28] Edited by: Invelious on 27/08/2009 21:36:15 Originally by: Kazzzi Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Originally by: Xennith OK, prove us wrong. Set U'K blue. Go ahead and set us to blue and never engage us then See I can do that also . . . Don't you have a past account to be writing? Great Idea! Hey CVA, we're negotiating a mutual NAP with Eternum here, you ok with that? You ok with letting them dock in Provi after we finalize the agreement? No? Oh they need to follow your red/blue list to live there? Roger that. Well according to Solusars list there just above you nothing indicates that someone cant have a NAP with a red. So its seems that it would be ok so long as the NAP party follows the guidlines for living in Prov.
Merdaneth Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2009.08.27 21:55:00 - [29] Originally by: Kazzzi No, you're the dirty pirate!!! Kazzzi takes a swig of liquor then draws a picture of Merdaneth with an eyepatch and a peg leg See?!! I have proof!!! Selling ice cream suited you better. ____ The Illusion of Freedom \| The Truth about Slavery
Kazzzi Amarr Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.08.27 22:00:00 - [30] Greater Providence is open for transit, commerce, faction bounty hunting and asteroid mining to all pilots, corporations, and alliances who obey the law If attacked, lawful pilots, corporations and alliances may defend themselves to the fullest extent of their ability No pilot, corporation or alliance shall conduct piracy No pilot, corporation or alliance shall extort, blackmail or give ransoms No pilot, corporation or alliance shall defraud or swindle to obtain ISK, an object, rights or anything of value belonging to another No pilot, corporation or alliance shall initiate an attack against another unless that pilot, corporation or alliance is expressly wanted on the Deliverance KOS List No pilot, corporation or alliance shall anchor a station or outpost without the express permission of the constellationÆs Administrator Corporations shall be held accountable for the actions of their pilots and Alliances shall be held accountable for the actions of their corporations CONCORD sanctioned wars shall not release a pilot, corporation or alliance from adherence to the law The High Magistrate shall mediate all challenges and disputes and his/her ruling in such matters shall be final and conclusive Kazzzi prints out this list and wipes his * with it That's about all this list is worth. It doesn't hold CVA accountable for anything. Kazzzi takes another swig and draws a picture of Invelious with an eyepatch and peg leg** Hah! Now you are a pirate and violating the laws of Providence!!!

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