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Autobot Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.02 01:00:00 - [1] I would probably agree that CCP didn't think we'd populate worm hole spaces with towers, carriers, dreadnoughts and capital industrial ships. But CCP allowed the mechanics of the worm hole, they had to of known we'd go there... Now that we're there, we want Sovereignty in our worm hole homes. We want to spend less on POS fuel, build the next level of POS related items! So give it up ccp for self sufficent worm holes... Rally here to voice your opinion! Regards, Autobot
XXSketchxx Gallente Remote Soviet Industries	Posted - 2009.09.02 01:06:00 - [2] Let's not talk about this. Cause its a dumb idea. _____________________________________________ -Sketch, Certified Pharmacist Need a Boost?
aka Ishur Aperture Harmonics	Posted - 2009.09.02 01:10:00 - [3] WTH. Its not even friday, whats with all the idiot threads on Whs today?
Rellik B00n Lethal Death Squad	Posted - 2009.09.02 01:11:00 - [4] 0/10 **** off + LDS @ Bclnc
Autobot Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.02 01:11:00 - [5] Hey look, two trolls for the price of one.
VoiceInTheDesert Inroads	Posted - 2009.09.02 01:13:00 - [6] This is a bad idea and you should feel bad about posting a thread on it.
Fish Hunter	Posted - 2009.09.02 01:24:00 - [7] hell no! Absolutely no reason for this!
Horchan Gallente	Posted - 2009.09.02 01:35:00 - [8] Originally by: VoiceInTheDesert This is a bad idea and you should feel bad about posting a thread on it. --- DesuSigs
Amitious Turkey Gallente TarNec New Eden Retail Federation	Posted - 2009.09.02 01:35:00 - [9] No. BECAUSE OF FALCONDUST! Originally by: CCP Navigator We love you all as well <3 GO NAVIGATOR <3
Gautan Virdamot Nebula Rasa Vanguard	Posted - 2009.09.02 01:39:00 - [10] Let's talk about you going to school and getting that chav out of your system.
Ben Derindar Dirty Deeds Corp.	Posted - 2009.09.02 01:45:00 - [11] Originally by: Autobot Amarr we want Sovereignty in our worm hole homes. No, we don't. /Ben
Ninja Troll	Posted - 2009.09.02 02:00:00 - [12] Originally by: Amitious Turkey No. This.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.02 02:15:00 - [13] Originally by: XXSketchxx Let's not talk about this. Cause its a dumb idea. Thats pretty much it tbh.
THE L0CK	Posted - 2009.09.02 02:45:00 - [14] The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle.
Thomas Devyn	Posted - 2009.09.02 02:56:00 - [15] Sovereignty?... no. Semi stable wormholes that can be predicted when they open and where?... yes id take that.
PI Staker	Posted - 2009.09.02 03:01:00 - [16] i'd be for this idea if the sleepers spawned dreads and other cap ships and popped the towers at random. wormhole space belongs to the sleepers, leave it as such
Haradgrim Tyrell Corp Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels	Posted - 2009.09.02 03:04:00 - [17] Sov would be a terrible idea, it would just make it a bastardized version of 0.0 One thing I think would be worthwhile is something akin to sov that basically allows the corp/alliance with the most towers in the system to stabilize an outgoing wormhole (not choose its destination, just lock it in place once its going somewhere you like) -- Originally by: CCP Oveur Just donæt forget the reach-around.
Adunh Slavy	Posted - 2009.09.02 03:34:00 - [18] Originally by: Haradgrim ... stabilize an outgoing wormhole ... That sounds a bit much, but maybe knowing more about it, like what time it will collapse, how much mass is left. Worm hole analyzer array The Real Space Initiative - V5 (Forum Link)
Autobot Amarr	Posted - 2009.09.02 08:50:00 - [19] So far everyone has said no or kind of no... But no one has said why they don't agree... First off, lets see some benefits of WH Sov. Moon mining and T2 production becomes possible. This reduces the cost of T2 things on the market and allows someone other than the big alliances to compete, God for bid that... More over player's that live in worm holes can more effectively work in their space and fend off intruders of such claimed space a little easier. Especially if a Sov. LvL were allowed to reach the Const. Sov. equivalent, where player owned stations could be built. So why does having this ability inside a worm hole have any bearing negitively on any of you players in low or high sec? I say it doesn't. Regards, Autobot
Another Liberthas Caldari Ha'Menudim SCUM.	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Autobot Amarr So far everyone has said no or kind of no... But no one has said why they don't agree... First off, lets see some benefits of WH Sov. Moon mining and T2 production becomes possible. This reduces the cost of T2 things on the market and allows someone other than the big alliances to compete, God for bid that... More over player's that live in worm holes can more effectively work in their space and fend off intruders of such claimed space a little easier. Especially if a Sov. LvL were allowed to reach the Const. Sov. equivalent, where player owned stations could be built. So why does having this ability inside a worm hole have any bearing negitively on any of you players in low or high sec? I say it doesn't. Regards, Autobot Still no.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:06:00 - [21] Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 02/09/2009 09:07:31 Originally by: Autobot Amarr So far everyone has said no or kind of no... But no one has said why they don't agree... First off, lets see some benefits of WH Sov. Moon mining and T2 production becomes possible. This reduces the cost of T2 things on the market and allows someone other than the big alliances to compete, God for bid that... More over player's that live in worm holes can more effectively work in their space and fend off intruders of such claimed space a little easier. Especially if a Sov. LvL were allowed to reach the Const. Sov. equivalent, where player owned stations could be built. So why does having this ability inside a worm hole have any bearing negitively on any of you players in low or high sec? I say it doesn't. Regards, Autobot We have that crap in 0.0 today. The purpose of wormholes was to provide something new to the game and give explorers things to constantly explore. There are 0 reasons to make wormhole space more like 0.0. The T2 issue can be solved by changing how moon mining works and altering alchemy. Such ideas have been discussed at length in other forums. No need to bring wormholes into this. With sovereignty fending of intruders becomes too easy, since cynos aren't allowed. The defender has the advantage and the system becomes a deathtrap for any attacker. If you allow cynos, you just made it normal 0.0. Either way it is a bad thing. Wormholes should never become like sovereignty space. It is different by design and should remain that way. If you want more sovereignty space or want to allow small operators to claim space, CCP can add more 0.0 and alter how sovereignty works. There is no need to ruin wormholes for the people that do love them as they are.
Dasola	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:17:00 - [22] If wh would be able to be claimed, then it would become defacto new 0.0 with massive allainces grabbing all they can get. And it still would not allow moon mining in wh, since it has being sayd by devs that theres nothing there to mine. And why would wh system be selfsufficient? Explain this please. As far as i know even 0.0 stations need certain fuel ingridients that are only available originally from NPC merchants. So you cannot just go and isolate yourself. Personally, i would like to see for example tech 3 rare drop bpc for WH stabilicer that eats lots of fuel but allows stabilisation of single wh. Maybe limited one per system. No controll where that wh leads, but once you find nice one, you could stabilise it so it would become semi-permanent as long as theres fuel and some idiot dosent fly too much mass throw it to make collapse happen.
Nihn Lemai	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:20:00 - [23] It sounds like you want to turn WH into regular 0.0 with unpredictable jump gates? Which in turn sounds like a termination of the very core idea that is WH.
Nika Dekaia	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:22:00 - [24] Originally by: XXSketchxx Let's not talk about this. Cause its a dumb idea. OP is a lucky person. He got a clear anwser in the first reply.

CCP Abathur	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:30:00 - [25] Originally by: Autobot Amarr I would probably agree that CCP didn't think we'd populate worm hole spaces with towers, carriers, dreadnoughts and capital industrial ships. Actually, we hoped it would happen and are pleased it is happening. Time will tell though if the original inhabitants of WH space are pleased by it... Quote: Now that we're there, we want Sovereignty in our worm hole homes. No.

Frenzei Gallente Fortuna inc. Leather Rose Syndicate	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:35:00 - [26] Originally by: CCP Abathur No. Pwned, Hard.
Nihn Lemai	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:36:00 - [27] Thats about as close to a /thread we can get...
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:41:00 - [28] How about outposts (as in, "stations") without sov ? _ Info about our corp \| Beginer's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper
Typhado3 Minmatar Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:44:00 - [29] Originally by: CCP Abathur Originally by: Autobot Amarr I would probably agree that CCP didn't think we'd populate worm hole spaces with towers, carriers, dreadnoughts and capital industrial ships. Actually, we hoped it would happen and are pleased it is happening. Time will tell though if the original inhabitants of WH space are pleased by it... Quote: Now that we're there, we want Sovereignty in our worm hole homes. No. seriously wh's are something different. wth would you try and take something new and different and convert it into old standard content. ------------------------------ Just a crazy inventor ccp fix mining agent missions % pls
Denaris Aschanna	Posted - 2009.09.02 09:57:00 - [30] Originally by: CCP Abathur Actually, we hoped it would happen and are pleased it is happening. Time will tell though if the original inhabitants of WH space are pleased by it... Eeep... runs to check tower

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