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zepter	Posted - 2004.10.19 11:52:00 - [1] Edited by: zepter on 19/10/2004 11:56:01 Are CFS hypocrites? They attacked FA under the premise that FA broke the deal they had with CFS, yet CFS can't even abide to its own charter. Should CFS attack itself now too? The reason for this is the 4 days old revised charter. Here are some quotes from the charter: Quote: Any person in CFS space shall be designed a friend of the Coalition and must fight to protect it. Quote: No entity will be allied/friend/neutral to any enemy of CFS. Quote: All whom roam in CFS space that do not come when called for will be required to purchase a weekly pass to be allowed to remain in CFS space. In the 3 regions affected by this charter there are a lot of corps neutral to FA, including a CFS corp (Xentech). How can you allow these corps to continue being neutral to your enemies when your chapter clearly says that they aren't allowed in CFS space? This would also mean that SA aren't welcome in CFS since they are neutral to FA. CFS, you're nothing but hypocrites! You expect FA to honour your contracts yet you can't honour them yourselves.
zepter	Posted - 2004.10.19 11:52:00 - [2] Edited by: zepter on 19/10/2004 11:56:01 Are CFS hypocrites? They attacked FA under the premise that FA broke the deal they had with CFS, yet CFS can't even abide to its own charter. Should CFS attack itself now too? The reason for this is the 4 days old revised charter. Here are some quotes from the charter: Quote: Any person in CFS space shall be designed a friend of the Coalition and must fight to protect it. Quote: No entity will be allied/friend/neutral to any enemy of CFS. Quote: All whom roam in CFS space that do not come when called for will be required to purchase a weekly pass to be allowed to remain in CFS space. In the 3 regions affected by this charter there are a lot of corps neutral to FA, including a CFS corp (Xentech). How can you allow these corps to continue being neutral to your enemies when your chapter clearly says that they aren't allowed in CFS space? This would also mean that SA aren't welcome in CFS since they are neutral to FA. CFS, you're nothing but hypocrites! You expect FA to honour your contracts yet you can't honour them yourselves.
Belian	Posted - 2004.10.19 11:58:00 - [3] Hello MR.ALT go home Shinra Vid
Belian	Posted - 2004.10.19 11:58:00 - [4] Hello MR.ALT go home Shinra Vid
Moiran	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:04:00 - [5] we are at war with shinra but i agree with him here we aren't waiting for post made by those not willing to give out their identity on this forum.
Moiran	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:04:00 - [6] we are at war with shinra but i agree with him here we aren't waiting for post made by those not willing to give out their identity on this forum.
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:06:00 - [7] Nitpicking.. Nevertheless CFS are hypocrites, letting KROM join... Abandoning their Free Space ideals... Going to war with their allies rather than at least attempting diplomacy first.. http://eve.klaki.net/
Tyrrax Thorrk	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:06:00 - [8] Nitpicking.. Nevertheless CFS are hypocrites, letting KROM join... Abandoning their Free Space ideals... Going to war with their allies rather than at least attempting diplomacy first.. http://eve.klaki.net/
XeQtR	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:14:00 - [9] Edited by: XeQtR on 19/10/2004 12:19:27 So they broke their own charter. Big deal. They wrote it. They can break it whenever they damn well please. and. Quote: Should CFS attack itself now too? Isn't that exactly what's happening?
XeQtR	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:14:00 - [10] Edited by: XeQtR on 19/10/2004 12:19:27 So they broke their own charter. Big deal. They wrote it. They can break it whenever they damn well please. and. Quote: Should CFS attack itself now too? Isn't that exactly what's happening?
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:18:00 - [11] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Nitpicking.. Nevertheless CFS are hypocrites, letting KROM join... Abandoning their Free Space ideals... Going to war with their allies rather than at least attempting diplomacy first.. Diplomacy was tryed for a long time... But the Stupidity of FA leadership, made the current situation.. and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:18:00 - [12] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Nitpicking.. Nevertheless CFS are hypocrites, letting KROM join... Abandoning their Free Space ideals... Going to war with their allies rather than at least attempting diplomacy first.. Diplomacy was tryed for a long time... But the Stupidity of FA leadership, made the current situation.. and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Kariss	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Sternburg Export ... and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL If he's such a carebear, why can't you kill him yourself
Kariss	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:23:00 - [14] Originally by: Sternburg Export ... and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL If he's such a carebear, why can't you kill him yourself
Adarian Silverthorn	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:25:00 - [15] Originally by: Sternburg Export Diplomacy was tryed for a long time... But the Stupidity of FA leadership, made the current situation.. and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL You mean the same carebear TornSoul who was gang leader in the attack on TPAR last night?
Adarian Silverthorn	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:25:00 - [16] Originally by: Sternburg Export Diplomacy was tryed for a long time... But the Stupidity of FA leadership, made the current situation.. and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL You mean the same carebear TornSoul who was gang leader in the attack on TPAR last night?
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:27:00 - [17] Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Nitpicking.. Nevertheless CFS are hypocrites, letting KROM join... Abandoning their Free Space ideals... Going to war with their allies rather than at least attempting diplomacy first.. Diplomacy was tryed for a long time... But the Stupidity of FA leadership, made the current situation.. and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL The Stupidity of FA leadership is responsible for CFS/DSMA/StA getting their collective arses spanked left right and center? How utterly utterly stupid. I am sure they are banging their heads against the walls in YZ-LQL now. No really. Seriously. I am sure they already hate the day when you gave them a good reason to kill those annoying weaklings in comfortable range of their blobs. You go weaklings.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:27:00 - [18] Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Nitpicking.. Nevertheless CFS are hypocrites, letting KROM join... Abandoning their Free Space ideals... Going to war with their allies rather than at least attempting diplomacy first.. Diplomacy was tryed for a long time... But the Stupidity of FA leadership, made the current situation.. and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL The Stupidity of FA leadership is responsible for CFS/DSMA/StA getting their collective arses spanked left right and center? How utterly utterly stupid. I am sure they are banging their heads against the walls in YZ-LQL now. No really. Seriously. I am sure they already hate the day when you gave them a good reason to kill those annoying weaklings in comfortable range of their blobs. You go weaklings.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:28:00 - [19] Originally by: Kariss Originally by: Sternburg Export ... and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL If he's such a carebear, why can't you kill him yourself maybe i¦m stuck between "some" FA BS? and a few jumps out of Tpar .. Just a thought i mean i¦m fearless.. but i¦m not stupid.. i¦ll not lose my ships without any chance of getting one of these Bastards killed ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:28:00 - [20] Originally by: Kariss Originally by: Sternburg Export ... and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL If he's such a carebear, why can't you kill him yourself maybe i¦m stuck between "some" FA BS? and a few jumps out of Tpar .. Just a thought i mean i¦m fearless.. but i¦m not stupid.. i¦ll not lose my ships without any chance of getting one of these Bastards killed ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:32:00 - [21] Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :)
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:32:00 - [22] Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :)
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:33:00 - [23] Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT!
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:33:00 - [24] Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT!
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:37:00 - [25] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:37:00 - [26] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment.
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:39:00 - [27] Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Nitpicking.. Nevertheless CFS are hypocrites, letting KROM join... Abandoning their Free Space ideals... Going to war with their allies rather than at least attempting diplomacy first.. Diplomacy was tryed for a long time... But the Stupidity of FA leadership, made the current situation.. and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL CA HAS ONE! ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Aneu Angellus	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:39:00 - [28] Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Nitpicking.. Nevertheless CFS are hypocrites, letting KROM join... Abandoning their Free Space ideals... Going to war with their allies rather than at least attempting diplomacy first.. Diplomacy was tryed for a long time... But the Stupidity of FA leadership, made the current situation.. and btw WTB FRESH CORPSE OF CAREBEAR TORNSOUL CA HAS ONE! ________________ Aneu Angellus Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:39:00 - [29] Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:39:00 - [30] Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:40:00 - [31] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:40:00 - [32] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:41:00 - [33] Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:41:00 - [34] Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:42:00 - [35] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:42:00 - [36] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:46:00 - [37] Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? I'm in an artistic mood (forgot to take my Prozac). I think it looks nice.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:46:00 - [38] Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? I'm in an artistic mood (forgot to take my Prozac). I think it looks nice.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:46:00 - [39] Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? How about replytime to the original question from me to you, eh? And don't worry about looking stupid or anything, I don't think anyone here mistakes you for a bright guy anyway.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:46:00 - [40] Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? How about replytime to the original question from me to you, eh? And don't worry about looking stupid or anything, I don't think anyone here mistakes you for a bright guy anyway.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:51:00 - [41] Edited by: Sternburg Export on 19/10/2004 12:54:03 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? How about replytime to the original question from me to you, eh? And don't worry about looking stupid or anything, I don't think anyone here mistakes you for a bright guy anyway. What a question? /me has a bad memory ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:51:00 - [42] Edited by: Sternburg Export on 19/10/2004 12:54:03 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? How about replytime to the original question from me to you, eh? And don't worry about looking stupid or anything, I don't think anyone here mistakes you for a bright guy anyway. What a question? /me has a bad memory ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:53:00 - [43] Originally by: Sternburg Export Edited by: Sternburg Export on 19/10/2004 12:54:03 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? How about replytime to the original question from me to you, eh? And don't worry about looking stupid or anything, I don't think anyone here mistakes you for a bright guy anyway. What a question? /me has a bad memory Reading up sometimes helps. I would really like to see a reasonable, intelligent answer.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:53:00 - [44] Originally by: Sternburg Export Edited by: Sternburg Export on 19/10/2004 12:54:03 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? How about replytime to the original question from me to you, eh? And don't worry about looking stupid or anything, I don't think anyone here mistakes you for a bright guy anyway. What a question? /me has a bad memory Reading up sometimes helps. I would really like to see a reasonable, intelligent answer.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:59:00 - [45] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Edited by: Sternburg Export on 19/10/2004 12:54:03 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? How about replytime to the original question from me to you, eh? And don't worry about looking stupid or anything, I don't think anyone here mistakes you for a bright guy anyway. What a question? /me has a bad memory Reading up sometimes helps. I would really like to see a reasonable, intelligent answer. Quote: The Stupidity of FA leadership is responsible for CFS/DSMA/StA getting their collective arses spanked left right and center? No, but the studitidy of FA-leadership brought us to this point. I mean, if they only accepted a few little things.. thia all wouldn¦t happen. And we all can life in peace. But they didn¦t. so we have war. ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 12:59:00 - [46] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Edited by: Sternburg Export on 19/10/2004 12:54:03 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? How about replytime to the original question from me to you, eh? And don't worry about looking stupid or anything, I don't think anyone here mistakes you for a bright guy anyway. What a question? /me has a bad memory Reading up sometimes helps. I would really like to see a reasonable, intelligent answer. Quote: The Stupidity of FA leadership is responsible for CFS/DSMA/StA getting their collective arses spanked left right and center? No, but the studitidy of FA-leadership brought us to this point. I mean, if they only accepted a few little things.. thia all wouldn¦t happen. And we all can life in peace. But they didn¦t. so we have war. ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:03:00 - [47] Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Edited by: Sternburg Export on 19/10/2004 12:54:03 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? How about replytime to the original question from me to you, eh? And don't worry about looking stupid or anything, I don't think anyone here mistakes you for a bright guy anyway. What a question? /me has a bad memory Reading up sometimes helps. I would really like to see a reasonable, intelligent answer. Quote: The Stupidity of FA leadership is responsible for CFS/DSMA/StA getting their collective arses spanked left right and center? No, but the studitidy of FA-leadership brought us to this point. I mean, if they only accepted a few little things.. thia all wouldn¦t happen. And we all can life in peace. But they didn¦t. so we have war. And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir!
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:03:00 - [48] Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Edited by: Sternburg Export on 19/10/2004 12:54:03 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Edited by: babyblue on 19/10/2004 12:35:02 Actually, I can't be arsed any more :) Also, you agree with me. ADMIT IT! I couldn't possibly comment. Oh c'mon. Nope. Quotetime? How about replytime to the original question from me to you, eh? And don't worry about looking stupid or anything, I don't think anyone here mistakes you for a bright guy anyway. What a question? /me has a bad memory Reading up sometimes helps. I would really like to see a reasonable, intelligent answer. Quote: The Stupidity of FA leadership is responsible for CFS/DSMA/StA getting their collective arses spanked left right and center? No, but the studitidy of FA-leadership brought us to this point. I mean, if they only accepted a few little things.. thia all wouldn¦t happen. And we all can life in peace. But they didn¦t. so we have war. And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir!
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:12:00 - [49] Originally by: Ogodai John And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir! Placeholders huh? I think the truth is starting to come out. All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:12:00 - [50] Originally by: Ogodai John And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir! Placeholders huh? I think the truth is starting to come out. All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny
dabster	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:16:00 - [51] omfg lol stop quoting! :E ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
dabster	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:16:00 - [52] omfg lol stop quoting! :E ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:18:00 - [53] Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir! Placeholders huh? I think the truth is starting to come out. All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny Wow, I found out the truth pretty fast. Can I be CFS President now please? I can talk all revolutionary and stuff. And I'm totally against capitalism and err... imperialism and bad guys!!1 OMGFIGHTTHEPOWER!!12 Nah. In 0.0 there is only weak and strong. Those who are weak either get killed or - if they are lucky and their neighbours are too friendly - are allowed to stay if they don't make any trouble. CFS/StA/DSMA are weak. Now they will have to become strong very fast or adapt to the new situation and well... die.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:18:00 - [54] Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir! Placeholders huh? I think the truth is starting to come out. All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny Wow, I found out the truth pretty fast. Can I be CFS President now please? I can talk all revolutionary and stuff. And I'm totally against capitalism and err... imperialism and bad guys!!1 OMGFIGHTTHEPOWER!!12 Nah. In 0.0 there is only weak and strong. Those who are weak either get killed or - if they are lucky and their neighbours are too friendly - are allowed to stay if they don't make any trouble. CFS/StA/DSMA are weak. Now they will have to become strong very fast or adapt to the new situation and well... die.
Mad Miner2	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:19:00 - [55] CFS is just abaut to lose thyer 0.0 space thy living in.... how sad
Mad Miner2	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:19:00 - [56] CFS is just abaut to lose thyer 0.0 space thy living in.... how sad
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:22:00 - [57] Originally by: Mad Miner2 CFS is just abaut to lose thyer 0.0 space thy living in.... how sad My point. They are already past the "OMGREVOLUTION" phase and right into the "WHINEOMGUNFAIR" phase. Took FA a tad long to get rid of them imo. Imagine being allied with CFS and all your big friends laugh at you.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:22:00 - [58] Originally by: Mad Miner2 CFS is just abaut to lose thyer 0.0 space thy living in.... how sad My point. They are already past the "OMGREVOLUTION" phase and right into the "WHINEOMGUNFAIR" phase. Took FA a tad long to get rid of them imo. Imagine being allied with CFS and all your big friends laugh at you.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:23:00 - [59] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir! Placeholders huh? I think the truth is starting to come out. All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny Wow, I found out the truth pretty fast. Can I be CFS President now please? I can talk all revolutionary and stuff. And I'm totally against capitalism and err... imperialism and bad guys!!1 OMGFIGHTTHEPOWER!!12 Nah. In 0.0 there is only weak and strong. Those who are weak either get killed or - if they are lucky and their neighbours are too friendly - are allowed to stay if they don't make any trouble. CFS/StA/DSMA are weak. Now they will have to become strong very fast or adapt to the new situation and well... die. No, we've known this for ages. It's just that I've never read anything about it on the forums before; admitting that this is what you are all about. All this talk about treaties and right/wrong from FA now looks a bit lame, don't you think?
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:23:00 - [60] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir! Placeholders huh? I think the truth is starting to come out. All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny Wow, I found out the truth pretty fast. Can I be CFS President now please? I can talk all revolutionary and stuff. And I'm totally against capitalism and err... imperialism and bad guys!!1 OMGFIGHTTHEPOWER!!12 Nah. In 0.0 there is only weak and strong. Those who are weak either get killed or - if they are lucky and their neighbours are too friendly - are allowed to stay if they don't make any trouble. CFS/StA/DSMA are weak. Now they will have to become strong very fast or adapt to the new situation and well... die. No, we've known this for ages. It's just that I've never read anything about it on the forums before; admitting that this is what you are all about. All this talk about treaties and right/wrong from FA now looks a bit lame, don't you think?
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:23:00 - [61] The CFS area was once a really cool place to live. Digitalcommunist made a good remark on that a while ago. The smuggler gates ruined it for them, pretty much..... However, with some work, i think it would be possible to go back to that peaceful time. As in, CFS actually controling their space. It's also still nice to see how people are saying "CFS is dead" now. People have been saying this for longer than there have been "PA is dead" claims, but the CFS is still there Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Reiisha	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:23:00 - [62] The CFS area was once a really cool place to live. Digitalcommunist made a good remark on that a while ago. The smuggler gates ruined it for them, pretty much..... However, with some work, i think it would be possible to go back to that peaceful time. As in, CFS actually controling their space. It's also still nice to see how people are saying "CFS is dead" now. People have been saying this for longer than there have been "PA is dead" claims, but the CFS is still there Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Andrew Redburn	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:25:00 - [63] Originally by: zepter Edited by: zepter on 19/10/2004 11:56:01 Are CFS hypocrites? They attacked FA under the premise that FA broke the deal they had with CFS, yet CFS can't even abide to its own charter. Should CFS attack itself now too? The reason for this is the 4 days old revised charter. Here are some quotes from the charter: Quote: Any person in CFS space shall be designed a friend of the Coalition and must fight to protect it. Quote: No entity will be allied/friend/neutral to any enemy of CFS. Quote: All whom roam in CFS space that do not come when called for will be required to purchase a weekly pass to be allowed to remain in CFS space. In the 3 regions affected by this charter there are a lot of corps neutral to FA, including a CFS corp (Xentech). How can you allow these corps to continue being neutral to your enemies when your chapter clearly says that they aren't allowed in CFS space? This would also mean that SA aren't welcome in CFS since they are neutral to FA. CFS, you're nothing but hypocrites! You expect FA to honour your contracts yet you can't honour them yourselves. SA is allied with CFS as well as with FA. We respect this and do not expect SA to take either side. Also corps having friends of any of our enmies in their bio/corp description ARE SHOT. Just like FA/FIX does shoot people having friends of UFS/StA/DSMA/CFS in their bio/corp description. Having now one corp deciding not to obey their own charter will have consequences. In fact XenTech will most likely have to leave CFS or fight with UFS Forces. But that is another story and totally up to CFS themselves. And to all that say we want to close CFS Space. THIS IS A LIE AND FAR AWAY FROM TRUTH. We want to keep it free for all, but we want assisstance for mining/using CFS Space resources. Wether you fight with us, pay through taxes while using our refineries or pay for a pass is up to YOU.
Andrew Redburn	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:25:00 - [64] Originally by: zepter Edited by: zepter on 19/10/2004 11:56:01 Are CFS hypocrites? They attacked FA under the premise that FA broke the deal they had with CFS, yet CFS can't even abide to its own charter. Should CFS attack itself now too? The reason for this is the 4 days old revised charter. Here are some quotes from the charter: Quote: Any person in CFS space shall be designed a friend of the Coalition and must fight to protect it. Quote: No entity will be allied/friend/neutral to any enemy of CFS. Quote: All whom roam in CFS space that do not come when called for will be required to purchase a weekly pass to be allowed to remain in CFS space. In the 3 regions affected by this charter there are a lot of corps neutral to FA, including a CFS corp (Xentech). How can you allow these corps to continue being neutral to your enemies when your chapter clearly says that they aren't allowed in CFS space? This would also mean that SA aren't welcome in CFS since they are neutral to FA. CFS, you're nothing but hypocrites! You expect FA to honour your contracts yet you can't honour them yourselves. SA is allied with CFS as well as with FA. We respect this and do not expect SA to take either side. Also corps having friends of any of our enmies in their bio/corp description ARE SHOT. Just like FA/FIX does shoot people having friends of UFS/StA/DSMA/CFS in their bio/corp description. Having now one corp deciding not to obey their own charter will have consequences. In fact XenTech will most likely have to leave CFS or fight with UFS Forces. But that is another story and totally up to CFS themselves. And to all that say we want to close CFS Space. THIS IS A LIE AND FAR AWAY FROM TRUTH. We want to keep it free for all, but we want assisstance for mining/using CFS Space resources. Wether you fight with us, pay through taxes while using our refineries or pay for a pass is up to YOU.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:27:00 - [65] Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir! Placeholders huh? I think the truth is starting to come out. All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny Wow, I found out the truth pretty fast. Can I be CFS President now please? I can talk all revolutionary and stuff. And I'm totally against capitalism and err... imperialism and bad guys!!1 OMGFIGHTTHEPOWER!!12 Nah. In 0.0 there is only weak and strong. Those who are weak either get killed or - if they are lucky and their neighbours are too friendly - are allowed to stay if they don't make any trouble. CFS/StA/DSMA are weak. Now they will have to become strong very fast or adapt to the new situation and well... die. No, we've known this for ages. It's just that I've never read anything about it on the forums before; admitting that this is what you are all about. All this talk about treaties and right/wrong from FA now looks a bit lame, don't you think? I don't know. I've been fighting FA corps in empire for a bit tho, so if that makes me a FA spokesperson, fine. Otherwise I have to disapoint you. Apart from that... errrr... the FA kept the agreements they had with CFS, didn't they? If CFS agreed to stupid demands it's their own fault. CFS tried to play the political game and failed. CFS now try to play the power game and fail. Hooray.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:27:00 - [66] Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir! Placeholders huh? I think the truth is starting to come out. All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny Wow, I found out the truth pretty fast. Can I be CFS President now please? I can talk all revolutionary and stuff. And I'm totally against capitalism and err... imperialism and bad guys!!1 OMGFIGHTTHEPOWER!!12 Nah. In 0.0 there is only weak and strong. Those who are weak either get killed or - if they are lucky and their neighbours are too friendly - are allowed to stay if they don't make any trouble. CFS/StA/DSMA are weak. Now they will have to become strong very fast or adapt to the new situation and well... die. No, we've known this for ages. It's just that I've never read anything about it on the forums before; admitting that this is what you are all about. All this talk about treaties and right/wrong from FA now looks a bit lame, don't you think? I don't know. I've been fighting FA corps in empire for a bit tho, so if that makes me a FA spokesperson, fine. Otherwise I have to disapoint you. Apart from that... errrr... the FA kept the agreements they had with CFS, didn't they? If CFS agreed to stupid demands it's their own fault. CFS tried to play the political game and failed. CFS now try to play the power game and fail. Hooray.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:35:00 - [67] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir! Placeholders huh? I think the truth is starting to come out. All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny Wow, I found out the truth pretty fast. Can I be CFS President now please? I can talk all revolutionary and stuff. And I'm totally against capitalism and err... imperialism and bad guys!!1 OMGFIGHTTHEPOWER!!12 Nah. In 0.0 there is only weak and strong. Those who are weak either get killed or - if they are lucky and their neighbours are too friendly - are allowed to stay if they don't make any trouble. CFS/StA/DSMA are weak. Now they will have to become strong very fast or adapt to the new situation and well... die. No, we've known this for ages. It's just that I've never read anything about it on the forums before; admitting that this is what you are all about. All this talk about treaties and right/wrong from FA now looks a bit lame, don't you think? I don't know. I've been fighting FA corps in empire for a bit tho, so if that makes me a FA spokesperson, fine. Otherwise I have to disapoint you. Apart from that... errrr... the FA kept the agreements they had with CFS, didn't they? If CFS agreed to stupid demands it's their own fault. CFS tried to play the political game and failed. CFS now try to play the power game and fail. Hooray. I think thats a rhetorical question. They didn't stick to them as far as I'm aware.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:35:00 - [68] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue Originally by: Ogodai John And this situation is bad for FA because? Because you finally gave them a good reason to entertain their pvp'ers right next door to their region? Or because they wont have to listen to whining weaklings anymore? Or because they can finally wipe you out and replace you with more... respectfull placeholders? Seriously, do tell me why this situation is bad for FA, Mister Forum Squad Sir! Placeholders huh? I think the truth is starting to come out. All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny Wow, I found out the truth pretty fast. Can I be CFS President now please? I can talk all revolutionary and stuff. And I'm totally against capitalism and err... imperialism and bad guys!!1 OMGFIGHTTHEPOWER!!12 Nah. In 0.0 there is only weak and strong. Those who are weak either get killed or - if they are lucky and their neighbours are too friendly - are allowed to stay if they don't make any trouble. CFS/StA/DSMA are weak. Now they will have to become strong very fast or adapt to the new situation and well... die. No, we've known this for ages. It's just that I've never read anything about it on the forums before; admitting that this is what you are all about. All this talk about treaties and right/wrong from FA now looks a bit lame, don't you think? I don't know. I've been fighting FA corps in empire for a bit tho, so if that makes me a FA spokesperson, fine. Otherwise I have to disapoint you. Apart from that... errrr... the FA kept the agreements they had with CFS, didn't they? If CFS agreed to stupid demands it's their own fault. CFS tried to play the political game and failed. CFS now try to play the power game and fail. Hooray. I think thats a rhetorical question. They didn't stick to them as far as I'm aware.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:38:00 - [69] Originally by: babyblue I think thats a rhetorical question. They didn't stick to them as far as I'm aware. shrug Okay... won't pretend I know more about the details and whatnots of that treaty than you do. It's a very simple situation anyway. CFS/DSMA/StA are now paying the price for being weak and ****ing off someone who is strong(er). No matter how you twist and turn it. Bad politics, bad planning, bad strategy, bad everything, dead locals.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:38:00 - [70] Originally by: babyblue I think thats a rhetorical question. They didn't stick to them as far as I'm aware. shrug Okay... won't pretend I know more about the details and whatnots of that treaty than you do. It's a very simple situation anyway. CFS/DSMA/StA are now paying the price for being weak and ****ing off someone who is strong(er). No matter how you twist and turn it. Bad politics, bad planning, bad strategy, bad everything, dead locals.
zepter	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:39:00 - [71] Edited by: zepter on 19/10/2004 13:42:46 Originally by: Andrew Redburn Also corps having friends of any of our enmies in their bio/corp description ARE SHOT. Just like FA/FIX does shoot people having friends of UFS/StA/DSMA/CFS in their bio/corp description. but the neutral freeloaders you don't shoot? maybe i should put "neutral freeloader" in my bio then.
zepter	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:39:00 - [72] Edited by: zepter on 19/10/2004 13:42:46 Originally by: Andrew Redburn Also corps having friends of any of our enmies in their bio/corp description ARE SHOT. Just like FA/FIX does shoot people having friends of UFS/StA/DSMA/CFS in their bio/corp description. but the neutral freeloaders you don't shoot? maybe i should put "neutral freeloader" in my bio then.
Severe McCald	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:40:00 - [73] Originally by: zepter Edited by: zepter on 19/10/2004 11:56:01 Are CFS hypocrites? Hypocrite: one who says one thing and does another. Person with the benefit of experience: says one thing, tries it. It doesn't work. Says let us try something else and does so. Different things. Severe And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land.
Severe McCald	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:40:00 - [74] Originally by: zepter Edited by: zepter on 19/10/2004 11:56:01 Are CFS hypocrites? Hypocrite: one who says one thing and does another. Person with the benefit of experience: says one thing, tries it. It doesn't work. Says let us try something else and does so. Different things. Severe And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land.
zepter	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:42:00 - [75] Originally by: Severe McCald Originally by: zepter Edited by: zepter on 19/10/2004 11:56:01 Are CFS hypocrites? Hypocrite: one who says one thing and does another. Person with the benefit of experience: says one thing, tries it. It doesn't work. Says let us try something else and does so. Different things. Severe hypocrite fits nicely.
zepter	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:42:00 - [76] Originally by: Severe McCald Originally by: zepter Edited by: zepter on 19/10/2004 11:56:01 Are CFS hypocrites? Hypocrite: one who says one thing and does another. Person with the benefit of experience: says one thing, tries it. It doesn't work. Says let us try something else and does so. Different things. Severe hypocrite fits nicely.
zepter	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:44:00 - [77] in what way did FA not honour their agreement with CFS?
zepter	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:44:00 - [78] in what way did FA not honour their agreement with CFS?
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:46:00 - [79] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue I think thats a rhetorical question. They didn't stick to them as far as I'm aware. shrug Okay... won't pretend I know more about the details and whatnots of that treaty than you do. It's a very simple situation anyway. CFS/DSMA/StA are now paying the price for being weak and ****ing off someone who is strong(er). No matter how you twist and turn it. Bad politics, bad planning, bad strategy, bad everything, dead locals. Yes, seen in those terms, you are probably right. But its nice to go down for a Virtual ideal. I'm not one of those who enjoys fighting just for the hell of it (did enough of that at school).
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:46:00 - [80] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: babyblue I think thats a rhetorical question. They didn't stick to them as far as I'm aware. shrug Okay... won't pretend I know more about the details and whatnots of that treaty than you do. It's a very simple situation anyway. CFS/DSMA/StA are now paying the price for being weak and ****ing off someone who is strong(er). No matter how you twist and turn it. Bad politics, bad planning, bad strategy, bad everything, dead locals. Yes, seen in those terms, you are probably right. But its nice to go down for a Virtual ideal. I'm not one of those who enjoys fighting just for the hell of it (did enough of that at school).
Narcoz	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:47:00 - [81] Originally by: Andrew Redburn And to all that say we want to close CFS Space. THIS IS A LIE AND FAR AWAY FROM TRUTH. Hmm for some reason my trust in CFS isent what it once was....
Narcoz	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:47:00 - [82] Originally by: Andrew Redburn And to all that say we want to close CFS Space. THIS IS A LIE AND FAR AWAY FROM TRUTH. Hmm for some reason my trust in CFS isent what it once was....
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:57:00 - [83] Originally by: Narcoz Originally by: Andrew Redburn And to all that say we want to close CFS Space. THIS IS A LIE AND FAR AWAY FROM TRUTH. Hmm for some reason my trust in CFS isent what it once was.... Well, I can say that the Free Space ideal is still alive and kicking with most (probably not all though) players in CFS. So even if a few did want it shut down, it won't happen (although if FA win this, it will be shut down for sure). The only change here then, is the requirement to help defend it. Which I don't think is too much to ask.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 13:57:00 - [84] Originally by: Narcoz Originally by: Andrew Redburn And to all that say we want to close CFS Space. THIS IS A LIE AND FAR AWAY FROM TRUTH. Hmm for some reason my trust in CFS isent what it once was.... Well, I can say that the Free Space ideal is still alive and kicking with most (probably not all though) players in CFS. So even if a few did want it shut down, it won't happen (although if FA win this, it will be shut down for sure). The only change here then, is the requirement to help defend it. Which I don't think is too much to ask.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 14:12:00 - [85] Believe it or not... The only thing FA wanta.. are isk.. In our diplomatic relations we wantet lesser each time. First it was the control of the Stations... Then it was at least 1 little station. Then it were Offices at the stations. Finally the only thing left.. we wanted a refining tax lesser then 3% .. Offices was given to our membercorps while StA was stationholder! there were not any FA involved... The refing tax was not lesser then 3%.. I ask u.. do we wantet really to much? NO.. we didn¦t. And if u everytime Slap ur "slaves".. someone they will stand up against there slavers.. thats all. ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Sternburg Export	Posted - 2004.10.19 14:12:00 - [86] Believe it or not... The only thing FA wanta.. are isk.. In our diplomatic relations we wantet lesser each time. First it was the control of the Stations... Then it was at least 1 little station. Then it were Offices at the stations. Finally the only thing left.. we wanted a refining tax lesser then 3% .. Offices was given to our membercorps while StA was stationholder! there were not any FA involved... The refing tax was not lesser then 3%.. I ask u.. do we wantet really to much? NO.. we didn¦t. And if u everytime Slap ur "slaves".. someone they will stand up against there slavers.. thats all. ____________________________ [ 2005.03.31 20:53:50 ] (mining) Your Basic Miner perfectly strikes Veldspar Roid, wrecking for 20 Ore units.
Kariss	Posted - 2004.10.19 14:15:00 - [87] Originally by: Sternburg Export Believe it or not... The only thing FA wanta.. are isk.. And that's bad because... ? Hell, I want more ISK - anyone care to donate?
Kariss	Posted - 2004.10.19 14:15:00 - [88] Originally by: Sternburg Export Believe it or not... The only thing FA wanta.. are isk.. And that's bad because... ? Hell, I want more ISK - anyone care to donate?
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 15:04:00 - [89] Originally by: Sternburg Export Believe it or not... The only thing FA wanta.. are isk.. Wow. How mean. I am sure your alliance tries to avoid ISK as good as you can. No really, thats a good point. I hope for you that the StA PVP Squad is better than your Forum Squad...
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.19 15:04:00 - [90] Originally by: Sternburg Export Believe it or not... The only thing FA wanta.. are isk.. Wow. How mean. I am sure your alliance tries to avoid ISK as good as you can. No really, thats a good point. I hope for you that the StA PVP Squad is better than your Forum Squad...
Magorath	Posted - 2004.10.19 15:34:00 - [91] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Believe it or not... The only thing FA wanta.. are isk.. Wow. How mean. I am sure your alliance tries to avoid ISK as good as you can. No really, thats a good point. I hope for you that the StA PVP Squad is better than your Forum Squad... I think what he was trying to say FA didn't give two cents what was happeneing in the region as long as they controlled the refining station and got a cut of everything that was being refined.
Magorath	Posted - 2004.10.19 15:34:00 - [92] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Sternburg Export Believe it or not... The only thing FA wanta.. are isk.. Wow. How mean. I am sure your alliance tries to avoid ISK as good as you can. No really, thats a good point. I hope for you that the StA PVP Squad is better than your Forum Squad... I think what he was trying to say FA didn't give two cents what was happeneing in the region as long as they controlled the refining station and got a cut of everything that was being refined.
Gzek	Posted - 2004.10.19 15:48:00 - [93] Seriously... This pro-FA propaganda is sickening.
Gzek	Posted - 2004.10.19 15:48:00 - [94] Seriously... This pro-FA propaganda is sickening.
Ulthar	Posted - 2004.10.19 16:08:00 - [95] Edited by: Ulthar on 19/10/2004 16:11:32 Hmmm if I have to buy a pass to mine there, it isn't "free" space in my book. From the rules they just enacted (before getting curbstomped) it certainly looked like they were going to be restricting access. From a historical perspective, it looks like it will be very easy for them to continue to revise the term "pirate" to make it easy to exclude nonmembers, one small category at a time. Locked someone else? Then you're a pirate. Accidentally popped a rock? Then you're a pirate. After all, the term "piracy" (at least in the traditional sense) referred to any crime commited where the Lord of the Admiralty had jurisdiction. So as long as they continue passing laws, they can exclude more people as pirates. Let's face it, no well-organized group can police a territory and still call it "free" space. The minute they start excluding people it is no longer "free." The minute they declare that certain others will be KOS it is no longer "free." And the minute they start charging for mining permits it is most certainly no longer "free." I'm not saying that they are being unreasonable. However, they need to give up the charade of the "free space" propaganda. They closed it by becoming active and declaring themselves the sole arbiters of right and wrong. Ulthar Now with new, improved Night Hawks Corp power!!!
Ulthar	Posted - 2004.10.19 16:08:00 - [96] Edited by: Ulthar on 19/10/2004 16:11:32 Hmmm if I have to buy a pass to mine there, it isn't "free" space in my book. From the rules they just enacted (before getting curbstomped) it certainly looked like they were going to be restricting access. From a historical perspective, it looks like it will be very easy for them to continue to revise the term "pirate" to make it easy to exclude nonmembers, one small category at a time. Locked someone else? Then you're a pirate. Accidentally popped a rock? Then you're a pirate. After all, the term "piracy" (at least in the traditional sense) referred to any crime commited where the Lord of the Admiralty had jurisdiction. So as long as they continue passing laws, they can exclude more people as pirates. Let's face it, no well-organized group can police a territory and still call it "free" space. The minute they start excluding people it is no longer "free." The minute they declare that certain others will be KOS it is no longer "free." And the minute they start charging for mining permits it is most certainly no longer "free." I'm not saying that they are being unreasonable. However, they need to give up the charade of the "free space" propaganda. They closed it by becoming active and declaring themselves the sole arbiters of right and wrong. Ulthar Now with new, improved Night Hawks Corp power!!!
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 16:13:00 - [97] Originally by: Ulthar Edited by: Ulthar on 19/10/2004 16:11:32 Hmmm if I have to buy a pass to mine there, it isn't "free" space in my book. From the rules they just enacted (before getting curbstomped) it certainly looked like they were going to be restricting access. From a historical perspective, it looks like it will be very easy for them to continue to revise the term "pirate" to make it easy to exclude nonmembers, one small category at a time. Locked someone else? Then you're a pirate. Accidentally popped a rock? Then you're a pirate. After all, the term "piracy" (at least in the traditional sense) referred to any crime commited where the Lord of the Admiralty had jurisdiction. So as long as they continue passing laws, they can exclude more people as pirates. Let's face it, no well-organized group can police a territory and still call it "free" space. The minute they start excluding people it is no longer "free." The minute they declare that certain others will be KOS it is no longer "free." And the minute they start charging for mining permits it is most certainly no longer "free." I'm not saying that they are being unreasonable. However, they need to give up the charade of the "free space" propaganda. They closed it by becoming active and declaring themselves the sole arbiters of right and wrong. That depends on whether you think the term "free" should mean CA running rampage in CFS space. In my book, this is what your view of free would mean.
babyblue	Posted - 2004.10.19 16:13:00 - [98] Originally by: Ulthar Edited by: Ulthar on 19/10/2004 16:11:32 Hmmm if I have to buy a pass to mine there, it isn't "free" space in my book. From the rules they just enacted (before getting curbstomped) it certainly looked like they were going to be restricting access. From a historical perspective, it looks like it will be very easy for them to continue to revise the term "pirate" to make it easy to exclude nonmembers, one small category at a time. Locked someone else? Then you're a pirate. Accidentally popped a rock? Then you're a pirate. After all, the term "piracy" (at least in the traditional sense) referred to any crime commited where the Lord of the Admiralty had jurisdiction. So as long as they continue passing laws, they can exclude more people as pirates. Let's face it, no well-organized group can police a territory and still call it "free" space. The minute they start excluding people it is no longer "free." The minute they declare that certain others will be KOS it is no longer "free." And the minute they start charging for mining permits it is most certainly no longer "free." I'm not saying that they are being unreasonable. However, they need to give up the charade of the "free space" propaganda. They closed it by becoming active and declaring themselves the sole arbiters of right and wrong. That depends on whether you think the term "free" should mean CA running rampage in CFS space. In my book, this is what your view of free would mean.
Kariss	Posted - 2004.10.19 16:24:00 - [99] Originally by: Gzek Seriously... This pro-FA propaganda is sickening. I've seen posts from both sides that would make me cringe were I on one of them. You obviously can only see one side of that.
Kariss	Posted - 2004.10.19 16:24:00 - [100] Originally by: Gzek Seriously... This pro-FA propaganda is sickening. I've seen posts from both sides that would make me cringe were I on one of them. You obviously can only see one side of that.
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.10.19 16:34:00 - [101] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Nitpicking.. Nevertheless CFS are hypocrites, letting KROM join... Abandoning their Free Space ideals... Going to war with their allies rather than at least attempting diplomacy first.. krom dropped their piracy etc to join, they r reformed. if u bothered reading up on things u would be supporting cfs. FA declared war, not CFS. My vids and random stuff
MAXSuicide	Posted - 2004.10.19 16:34:00 - [102] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Nitpicking.. Nevertheless CFS are hypocrites, letting KROM join... Abandoning their Free Space ideals... Going to war with their allies rather than at least attempting diplomacy first.. krom dropped their piracy etc to join, they r reformed. if u bothered reading up on things u would be supporting cfs. FA declared war, not CFS. My vids and random stuff
Ulthar	Posted - 2004.10.19 21:26:00 - [103] Originally by: babyblue That depends on whether you think the term "free" should mean CA running rampage in CFS space. In my book, this is what your view of free would mean. [/quote No, in fact I could live with the definition of "pirate" automatically including CA. However, I fully expect that in "free" space, as a "friend of CFS" I could plop a POS down at an untapped moon and go to town without being hindered. However, there can be no "free" space sandwiched between CA and FA, not if there is to be any security. The insistance that this is still "free" space is propaganda and politics, not a reflection on reality at all. It may be "open" but it certainly isn't "free," and it smacks of deceitful marketing to continue to speak of it as such. I have no problems with most of what CFS has put forth... so far. But I reserve the right to change my mind on that in the next few months, especially if their rules are amended with any frequency. Ulthar Now with new, improved Night Hawks Corp power!!!
Ulthar	Posted - 2004.10.19 21:26:00 - [104] Originally by: babyblue That depends on whether you think the term "free" should mean CA running rampage in CFS space. In my book, this is what your view of free would mean. [/quote No, in fact I could live with the definition of "pirate" automatically including CA. However, I fully expect that in "free" space, as a "friend of CFS" I could plop a POS down at an untapped moon and go to town without being hindered. However, there can be no "free" space sandwiched between CA and FA, not if there is to be any security. The insistance that this is still "free" space is propaganda and politics, not a reflection on reality at all. It may be "open" but it certainly isn't "free," and it smacks of deceitful marketing to continue to speak of it as such. I have no problems with most of what CFS has put forth... so far. But I reserve the right to change my mind on that in the next few months, especially if their rules are amended with any frequency. Ulthar Now with new, improved Night Hawks Corp power!!!
Mr Blonde	Posted - 2004.10.19 22:22:00 - [105] Originally by: MAXSuicide FA declared war, not CFS. Yes CFS only broke a treaty and attacked several FA owned stations. Shame on FA for reacting. Shame! (Go CFS propaganda) __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite??
Mr Blonde	Posted - 2004.10.19 22:22:00 - [106] Originally by: MAXSuicide FA declared war, not CFS. Yes CFS only broke a treaty and attacked several FA owned stations. Shame on FA for reacting. Shame! (Go CFS propaganda) __________________________________________ Are you gonna bark all day, little doggy, or are you gonna bite??
XeQtR	Posted - 2004.10.20 10:10:00 - [107] Quote: All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny We weren't alts. We came in to TPAR and yelled at you in local for crying out loud. Time and time again even. That's not "alting"
XeQtR	Posted - 2004.10.20 10:10:00 - [108] Quote: All those "CA alts" who teased us about just such a thing were right after all. Funny We weren't alts. We came in to TPAR and yelled at you in local for crying out loud. Time and time again even. That's not "alting"
Jon Gray	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:15:00 - [109] Forums are highly entertaining. FA just keep bringing ships, thats all I ask for. ---
Jon Gray	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:15:00 - [110] Forums are highly entertaining. FA just keep bringing ships, thats all I ask for. ---
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:16:00 - [111] Originally by: Jon Gray Forums are highly entertaining. FA just keep bringing ships, thats all I ask for. Do you know what i hate ... seeing names like Jon Gray yellow on my scanners. /me Man with a broken heart _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:16:00 - [112] Originally by: Jon Gray Forums are highly entertaining. FA just keep bringing ships, thats all I ask for. Do you know what i hate ... seeing names like Jon Gray yellow on my scanners. /me Man with a broken heart _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Jon Gray	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:26:00 - [113] Haha, good thing i'm still blue then mate :D ---
Jon Gray	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:26:00 - [114] Haha, good thing i'm still blue then mate :D ---
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:37:00 - [115] Originally by: Jon Gray Haha, good thing i'm still blue then mate :D Oh lol :P Yeah read Imperium Technology. puh this was close :P _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
Loka	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:37:00 - [116] Originally by: Jon Gray Haha, good thing i'm still blue then mate :D Oh lol :P Yeah read Imperium Technology. puh this was close :P _____________________________________ Dead or Alive
The Enslaver	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:49:00 - [117] Props to CFS. If FA get control, they won't necessarily close it. If they can make more money from holding the stations and charging a refine tax, with an entrance fee (like for Fountain for NPCing), they'll do that... FA have no aims, nothing - except for making money, for no particular reason. At least people in say CA, CFS use their money for something fun. -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
The Enslaver	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:49:00 - [118] Props to CFS. If FA get control, they won't necessarily close it. If they can make more money from holding the stations and charging a refine tax, with an entrance fee (like for Fountain for NPCing), they'll do that... FA have no aims, nothing - except for making money, for no particular reason. At least people in say CA, CFS use their money for something fun. -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
Extravagant	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:50:00 - [119] Originally by: The Enslaver Props to CFS. If FA get control, they won't necessarily close it. If they can make more money from holding the stations and charging a refine tax, with an entrance fee (like for Fountain for NPCing), they'll do that... FA have no aims, nothing - except for making money, for no particular reason. At least people in say CA, CFS use their money for something fun. Thank you for your highly uninformed analyse of the situation. Now go back to CA land where you DO have some credibility. ----------------------
Extravagant	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:50:00 - [120] Originally by: The Enslaver Props to CFS. If FA get control, they won't necessarily close it. If they can make more money from holding the stations and charging a refine tax, with an entrance fee (like for Fountain for NPCing), they'll do that... FA have no aims, nothing - except for making money, for no particular reason. At least people in say CA, CFS use their money for something fun. Thank you for your highly uninformed analyse of the situation. Now go back to CA land where you DO have some credibility. ----------------------
The Enslaver	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:53:00 - [121] Hey Bizarre. Not put your alt into Evol yet I guess? -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
The Enslaver	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:53:00 - [122] Hey Bizarre. Not put your alt into Evol yet I guess? -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
Gzek	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:56:00 - [123] Originally by: Mr Blonde Yes CFS only broke a treaty and attacked several FA owned stations. Shame on FA for reacting. Shame! (Go CFS propaganda) Its not like the stations CFS attacked were in FA territory, they merely took back their own stations so yes. Shame on FA for reacting =p
Gzek	Posted - 2004.10.20 12:56:00 - [124] Originally by: Mr Blonde Yes CFS only broke a treaty and attacked several FA owned stations. Shame on FA for reacting. Shame! (Go CFS propaganda) Its not like the stations CFS attacked were in FA territory, they merely took back their own stations so yes. Shame on FA for reacting =p
Levin Cavil	Posted - 2004.10.20 17:10:00 - [125] Edited by: Levin Cavil on 20/10/2004 17:18:36 Edited by: Levin Cavil on 20/10/2004 17:12:44 Originally by: Andrew Redburn And to all that say we want to close CFS Space. THIS IS A LIE AND FAR AWAY FROM TRUTH. We want to keep it free for all, but we want assisstance for mining/using CFS Space resources. Wether you fight with us, pay through taxes while using our refineries or pay for a pass is up to YOU. Ermm... If its free why do you expect payment? Free to all means well... free. So if FA is getting the taxes you cry opression but its somehow heroic if you get the isk? Sounds like a double standard to me. No matter, you will be evicted soon anyway. Originally by: Loka Originally by: Jon Gray Haha, good thing i'm still blue then mate :D Oh lol :P Yeah read Imperium Technology. puh this was close :P You mean your "good friends" Imperium TechnolgIES? Or do you still not have the name right? Good friends, whatever. ------------------------------ <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
Levin Cavil	Posted - 2004.10.20 17:10:00 - [126] Edited by: Levin Cavil on 20/10/2004 17:18:36 Edited by: Levin Cavil on 20/10/2004 17:12:44 Originally by: Andrew Redburn And to all that say we want to close CFS Space. THIS IS A LIE AND FAR AWAY FROM TRUTH. We want to keep it free for all, but we want assisstance for mining/using CFS Space resources. Wether you fight with us, pay through taxes while using our refineries or pay for a pass is up to YOU. Ermm... If its free why do you expect payment? Free to all means well... free. So if FA is getting the taxes you cry opression but its somehow heroic if you get the isk? Sounds like a double standard to me. No matter, you will be evicted soon anyway. Originally by: Loka Originally by: Jon Gray Haha, good thing i'm still blue then mate :D Oh lol :P Yeah read Imperium Technology. puh this was close :P You mean your "good friends" Imperium TechnolgIES? Or do you still not have the name right? Good friends, whatever. ------------------------------ <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
Afecks	Posted - 2004.10.22 09:00:00 - [127] Roger that, Levin. Just roll over and die already, CFS. __________________________
Afecks	Posted - 2004.10.22 09:00:00 - [128] Roger that, Levin. Just roll over and die already, CFS. __________________________
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 09:19:00 - [129] You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!'
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 09:19:00 - [130] You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!'
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 09:21:00 - [131] Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?'
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 09:21:00 - [132] Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?'
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 09:44:00 - [133] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 09:44:00 - [134] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:14:00 - [135] Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy".
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:14:00 - [136] Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy".
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:21:00 - [137] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard'
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:21:00 - [138] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard'
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:22:00 - [139] Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:22:00 - [140] Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy.
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:25:00 - [141] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay.
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:25:00 - [142] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:32:00 - [143] Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay. Not so clever guy, you are getting better and better. Do you even have the slightest idea about who I am, altboy?
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:32:00 - [144] Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay. Not so clever guy, you are getting better and better. Do you even have the slightest idea about who I am, altboy?
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:37:00 - [145] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay. Not so clever guy, you are getting better and better. Do you even have the slightest idea about who I am, altboy? Yes I know who you are, can you not read - I made it quite explicit above? As I said, I know you as 'mouthy FA newbtard', 'QDF muscle girl', 'Bastard Daughter of FA', 'Puppet wus' - I could go on...
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:37:00 - [146] Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay. Not so clever guy, you are getting better and better. Do you even have the slightest idea about who I am, altboy? Yes I know who you are, can you not read - I made it quite explicit above? As I said, I know you as 'mouthy FA newbtard', 'QDF muscle girl', 'Bastard Daughter of FA', 'Puppet wus' - I could go on...
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:39:00 - [147] Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay. Not so clever guy, you are getting better and better. Do you even have the slightest idea about who I am, altboy? I could go on... I bet you can, not so clever guy. But could you also make sense? Or... not talk crap?
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:39:00 - [148] Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay. Not so clever guy, you are getting better and better. Do you even have the slightest idea about who I am, altboy? I could go on... I bet you can, not so clever guy. But could you also make sense? Or... not talk crap?
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:41:00 - [149] Edited by: Zemit on 22/10/2004 10:44:06 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay. Not so clever guy, you are getting better and better. Do you even have the slightest idea about who I am, altboy? I could go on... I bet you can, not so clever guy. But could you also make sense? Or... not talk crap? Nice chatting with you Puppet Wus, got to fly now...
Zemit	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:41:00 - [150] Edited by: Zemit on 22/10/2004 10:44:06 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay. Not so clever guy, you are getting better and better. Do you even have the slightest idea about who I am, altboy? I could go on... I bet you can, not so clever guy. But could you also make sense? Or... not talk crap? Nice chatting with you Puppet Wus, got to fly now...
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:42:00 - [151] Originally by: Zemit Edited by: Zemit on 22/10/2004 10:44:06 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay. Not so clever guy, you are getting better and better. Do you even have the slightest idea about who I am, altboy? I could go on... I bet you can, not so clever guy. But could you also make sense? Or... not talk crap? Nice chatting with you Puppet Wus, got to fly now... Thats a "no" then. Doesnt really come as a surprise, not so clever guy.
Ogodai John	Posted - 2004.10.22 10:42:00 - [152] Originally by: Zemit Edited by: Zemit on 22/10/2004 10:44:06 Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit Originally by: Ogodai John Originally by: Zemit You got to laugh at the QDF muscle girls all big and brave against CFS with Mommy FA holding it hands. Send some CA at them though and their bravado deserts them - 'mommy, mommy where are the safespots!' 'mommy, mommy where is my main?' Feeding info to your enemies Interesting. Would you mind telling me who my enemies are? I could give you some more info and we share the profit 50/50, k? I'm afraid "idiot" is considered a bad word here, so i will just call you "not so clever guy". Fair enough, I shall name you 'mouthy FA newbtard' Your wit and intelligence are only topped by your originality. I salute you, not so clever guy. Does FA know you are speaking for yourself, you should really ask permission first - there must be some kind of fee to pay. Not so clever guy, you are getting better and better. Do you even have the slightest idea about who I am, altboy? I could go on... I bet you can, not so clever guy. But could you also make sense? Or... not talk crap? Nice chatting with you Puppet Wus, got to fly now... Thats a "no" then. Doesnt really come as a surprise, not so clever guy.
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