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Pheusia Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 74	Posted - 2012.06.04 09:46:00 - [61] - Quote Vincent Wright wrote: Unimaginative Guy wrote: Just roll with a logi and 3-4other people in buffer pvp ships. Cloaked falcon is a total plus. I don't know the dps of l5s but im sure a armor cane/armor myrm or shield drake or shield cane can tank one with like...scimitar reps the point was not how to do L5s. im sure we can do them. the point is the added extreme risk of gankers new players can only hardly manage on top of a L5 L5s were specifically introduced to provide a reason to go to lo-sec
Vincent Wright Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2012.06.04 10:24:00 - [62] - Quote i have said everything in my original post. most of the people didnt really address the issues that i stated or they didnt bring forth reasonable arguments for the situation and the problem/proposition stated. i would like to thank the people that actually did add constructive ideas and insight. i hope a CCP dev will see it and think about rebalancing the security mission difficulties since the reasons are obvious and reasonable. the only reason i did point this out, was because i did want to help make the game more attractive for new players. its amazing that the forums represent the actual playerbase that well. there are a bunch of socialy akward elitist haters and some very nice supportive people. the latter will make me stay a bit longer as have the very nice people in CAS in the past, whom without i maybe wouldve stopped playing after the trial. fly safe
Lexmana Imperial Stout 511	Posted - 2012.06.04 10:32:00 - [63] - Quote Vincent Wright wrote: i hope a CCP dev will see it and think about rebalancing the security mission difficulties since the reasons are obvious and reasonable. the only reason i did point this out, was because i did want to help make the game more attractive for new players. Good luck with that one! You are so stuck in your idea to make this wow in space so you don't see that the obvious solution to your problem is to go to lowsec in smaller ships. HTFU. CCP wrote: We're CCP! We march on fearlessly! Excellent is what we strive to be! If you're going to follow us to the top HARDEN THE **** UP!
Vincent Wright Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2012.06.04 10:49:00 - [64] - Quote its also amazing how many inflated elder men with obvious ego problems are around that have to say how hard they are and how hard the game is and how cool they are to keep up with it on any occation possible. really man its just hilarious. and i am not impressed. not at all xD
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon 43	Posted - 2012.06.04 10:51:00 - [65] - Quote I did not do L4-¦s in a while but they must have become really easy when you can solo them in a myrmidon?
Lexmana Imperial Stout 515	Posted - 2012.06.04 10:54:00 - [66] - Quote Vincent Wright wrote: its also amazing how many inflated elder men with obvious ego problems are around that have to say how hard they are and how hard the game is and how cool they are to keep up with it on any occation possible. really man its just hilarious. and i am not impressed. not at all xD It is you that want to change the game that has been growing subscriptions for a decade. After playing the game for a month. Who has ego problems?
Tallian Saotome Fractured Core Fatal Ascension 774	Posted - 2012.06.04 10:55:00 - [67] - Quote Vincent Wright wrote: its also amazing how many inflated elder men with obvious ego problems are around that have to say how hard they are and how hard the game is and how cool they are to keep up with it on any occation possible. really man its just hilarious. and i am not impressed. not at all xD Don't worry, we were not impressed by your bragging about how hard WoW PVP is either. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Josef Djugashvilis The Scope Gallente Federation 270	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:03:00 - [68] - Quote Eugene Kerner wrote: I did not do L4-¦s in a while but they must have become really easy when you can solo them in a myrmidon? My point excactly. Seems to me that doing level 4 missions in a six week old Myrmidon, means that I must be doing the wrong level 4 missions in my Domi. I cannot catergorically state that it is not possible, but it does seem somewhat unlikely, unless the op means level 4 courier missions. However, I would be happy to see a Myrmidon (skilled up in six weeks) fit that can solo the majority of level 4 missions. Then I would eat some humble pie and use the fit myself. Over to you Vincent. You want fries with that?
MisterNick The Sagan Clan Persona Non Gratis 61	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:03:00 - [69] - Quote Just do Incursions. they're not all Vanguard sites and there are indeed less difficult sites to run. Pay is less but if you're doing it for a laugh this doesn't matter much, and also competition is marginally less too. "Fools! I'll show them all!" What do you mean that one's already taken?
Talon SilverHawk Patria o Muerte 329	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:04:00 - [70] - Quote Pheusia wrote: Vincent Wright wrote: Unimaginative Guy wrote: Just roll with a logi and 3-4other people in buffer pvp ships. Cloaked falcon is a total plus. I don't know the dps of l5s but im sure a armor cane/armor myrm or shield drake or shield cane can tank one with like...scimitar reps the point was not how to do L5s. im sure we can do them. the point is the added extreme risk of gankers new players can only hardly manage on top of a L5 L5s were specifically introduced to provide a reason to go to lo-sec Well that worked ......
Tallian Saotome Fractured Core Fatal Ascension 775	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:07:00 - [71] - Quote Talon SilverHawk wrote: Pheusia wrote: Vincent Wright wrote: Unimaginative Guy wrote: Just roll with a logi and 3-4other people in buffer pvp ships. Cloaked falcon is a total plus. I don't know the dps of l5s but im sure a armor cane/armor myrm or shield drake or shield cane can tank one with like...scimitar reps the point was not how to do L5s. im sure we can do them. the point is the added extreme risk of gankers new players can only hardly manage on top of a L5 L5s were specifically introduced to provide a reason to go to lo-sec Well that worked ...... People do run them, so yes, it did work. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Talon SilverHawk Patria o Muerte 329	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:10:00 - [72] - Quote Tallian Saotome wrote: Talon SilverHawk wrote: Pheusia wrote: Vincent Wright wrote: Unimaginative Guy wrote: Just roll with a logi and 3-4other people in buffer pvp ships. Cloaked falcon is a total plus. I don't know the dps of l5s but im sure a armor cane/armor myrm or shield drake or shield cane can tank one with like...scimitar reps the point was not how to do L5s. im sure we can do them. the point is the added extreme risk of gankers new players can only hardly manage on top of a L5 L5s were specifically introduced to provide a reason to go to lo-sec Well that worked ...... People do run them, so yes, it did work. Mate don't look for an argument where there isn't one or your going to lose. While a few might have gone after then the majority didn't, hence all the arguments in these forums about trying to get hi sec players into lo nul. Tal
Vincent Wright Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:15:00 - [73] - Quote Josef Djugashvilis wrote: Eugene Kerner wrote: I did not do L4-¦s in a while but they must have become really easy when you can solo them in a myrmidon? My point excactly. Seems to me that doing level 4 missions in a six week old Myrmidon, means that I must be doing the wrong level 4 missions in my Domi. I cannot catergorically state that it is not possible, but it does seem somewhat unlikely, unless the op means level 4 courier missions. However, I would be happy to see a Myrmidon (skilled up in six weeks) fit that can solo the majority of level 4 missions. Then I would eat some humble pie and use the fit myself. Over to you Vincent. i already did tell my fit. domis eat a much higher portion of the dps of a room because: 1. they cant kite 2. their sig radius is much larger 3. they cant get high angular velocities dps is still a bit low though. so BS take a little longer (310ish) only thing that is a bit tricky are HACs can easily closeorbit in the middle of 5-6 angel machs and tank it allright but im just a stupid "wow" player so this must be obvious for you
Tallian Saotome Fractured Core Fatal Ascension 775	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:20:00 - [74] - Quote Talon SilverHawk wrote: Tallian Saotome wrote: Talon SilverHawk wrote: Pheusia wrote: L5s were specifically introduced to provide a reason to go to lo-sec Well that worked ...... People do run them, so yes, it did work. Mate don't look for an argument where there isn't one or your going to lose. While a few might have gone after then the majority didn't, hence all the arguments in these forums about trying to get hi sec players into lo nul. Tal lol, the all knowing has spoken! Everyone go home, all our problems are solved! Oh yeah, thats right, you are one of those who completely fails. It worked simply because people run them. It doesn't take many to count as a success, as a matter of fact, it only takes one. Alot more than one do it tho. Just because you are scared to make friends and go out there doesn't mean everyone is. I've done them. I did them with other people. I know even more people who have done them. Just because you say it is so doesn't make it so. I am my own proof, because I have actually done them. Now the burden of proof is on you. Can you PROVE that no one does them, especially given that I know for a fact that people do? (once again, because I have done them, and know other people who do them) Stop being close minded and afraid, and try out the more challenging parts of New Eden. Who knows, you might actually realize how much fun it is to actually have an adrenaline rush because you and your friends just fought off a gank squad. Anything would be better than this bitter, angry forum troll you currently are. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Talon SilverHawk Patria o Muerte 329	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:23:00 - [75] - Quote Tallian Saotome wrote: Talon SilverHawk wrote: Tallian Saotome wrote: Talon SilverHawk wrote: Pheusia wrote: L5s were specifically introduced to provide a reason to go to lo-sec Well that worked ...... People do run them, so yes, it did work. Mate don't look for an argument where there isn't one or your going to lose. While a few might have gone after then the majority didn't, hence all the arguments in these forums about trying to get hi sec players into lo nul. Tal lol, the all knowing has spoken! Everyone go home, all our problems are solved! Oh yeah, thats right, you are one of those who completely fails. It worked simply because people run them. It doesn't take many to count as a success, as a matter of fact, it only takes one. Alot more than one do it tho. Just because you are scared to make friends and go out there doesn't mean everyone is. I've done them. I did them with other people. I know even more people who have done them. Just because you say it is so doesn't make it so. I am my own proof, because I have actually done them. Now the burden of proof is on you. Can you PROVE that no one does them, especially given that I know for a fact that people do? (once again, because I have done them, and know other people who do them) Stop being close minded and afraid, and try out the more challenging parts of New Eden. Who knows, you might actually realize how much fun it is to actually have an adrenaline rush because you and your friends just fought off a gank squad. Anything would be better than this bitter, angry forum troll you currently are. Wow I sense much stupidity in this one. Tal
Lin-Young Borovskova Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 101	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:24:00 - [76] - Quote OP Make a fake forum alt to try to prove lvl4's are too easy and there's not enough pvp ... I'm sure you've got a few ones around. 4/10 Edit: I'm sure your 1.5 month old character rocks in the house and can chain lvl4's like a pro
Tallian Saotome Fractured Core Fatal Ascension 776	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:27:00 - [77] - Quote Talon SilverHawk wrote: Wow I sense much stupidity in this one. Tal No proof then, eh? We are not surprised. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
fisk Alabel A Big Enough Lever Numquam Ambulare Solus 1	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:27:00 - [78] - Quote Did anyone mention wormholes as another option for pve?
Vincent Wright Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:38:00 - [79] - Quote Lin-Young Borovskova wrote: OP Make a fake forum alt to try to prove lvl4's are too easy and there's not enough pvp ... I'm sure you've got a few ones around. 4/10 Edit: I'm sure your 1.5 month old character rocks in the house with your Myrmidon and can chain lvl4's like a pro that is actually quite flattering me, thank you. no really im a brand new vanilla smartass player. mined in a dessy to buy my vex (i think that took 1 week, cant remember, had it before i could fly it and trained straight to it), jetcan mined vicious pyro in a remote system with a buy order of 68 a unit. bought the myrm, had to wait 4 days to actually fly it (again straight training to it) have to admit the 9th anniversary gift with the 2 highish value implants helped, got in the myrm, wanted to start some combat. found out i needed to ******* grind standings, before i can do L3s (freaked out), so i did L1,L2 and L3 security missions in my Myrm (almost died of boredome) then did L3 for a while, then checked out the first L4, was doable, less ISK/h but prevented me from sleeping in. learned that i cannot win against a pvp fit minmatar dessy (noob/ninja ganker 4 years old) in a PvE fit (with low SP) even though i engage him 50km out with my Artys, lost a myrm rebought one etc sry to dissapoint u i am not an alt and i dont "rock" L4s. as i stated above my dps is still quite low
Talon SilverHawk Patria o Muerte 329	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:47:00 - [80] - Quote Tallian Saotome wrote: lol, the all knowing has spoken! Show me the post where I claim this Tallian Saotome wrote: Oh yeah, thats right, you are one of those who completely fails. It worked simply because people run them. It doesn't take many to count as a success, as a matter of fact, it only takes one. Alot more than one do it tho. Just because you are scared to make friends and go out there doesn't mean everyone is. I've done them. I did them with other people. I know even more people who have done them. Just because you say it is so doesn't make it so. I am my own proof, because I have actually done them. Now the burden of proof is on you. Can you PROVE that no one does them, especially given that I know for a fact that people do? (once again, because I have done them, and know other people who do them) Fails at what, you don't know what I've done in Eve, so this is all troll on your part, nothing for me to prove, and if you believe that 1 person moving into low is a success by any standard, bully for you, your an optimist. Tallian Saotome wrote: Stop being close minded and afraid, and try out the more challenging parts of New Eden. Who knows, you might actually realize how much fun it is to actually have an adrenaline rush because you and your friends just fought off a gank squad. Again you know nothing about this charater so just another cheap troll. Tallian Saotome wrote: Anything would be better than this bitter, angry forum troll you currently are. I posted twice on these forums this morning, I never trolled just made a comment in this thread, which you seemed to take umbrage at ? and in another you accused me of invoking godwins law because the profanity filter covered up the word shity. You say you counted the letters and it might have stood for something else ??? you counted the fuking letters to match a word that would not have fitted in the sentence, and you call me a trroll. Tal
Josef Djugashvilis The Scope Gallente Federation 270	Posted - 2012.06.04 11:59:00 - [81] - Quote Lin-Young Borovskova wrote: OP Make a fake forum alt to try to prove lvl4's are too easy and there's not enough pvp ... I'm sure you've got a few ones around. 4/10 Edit: I'm sure your 1.5 month old character rocks in the house with your Myrmidon and can chain lvl4's like a pro I just hope Vincent posts the fit and skill points before my humble pie goes off. You want fries with that?
Vincent Wright Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2012.06.04 12:02:00 - [82] - Quote i will tell you a second time that i did already wrote my fit on page 2 or 3
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 2335	Posted - 2012.06.04 12:18:00 - [83] - Quote Vincent Wright Ignore the douches. Best thing to do is keep a cool head and reply with the 'Report' option - above their posted reply, located around the middle of the header is a little 'Flag' icon, next to the time stamp - click that 'Flag' and report them for any infraction of the Forum Rules. Believe me, it works. DMC
Lin-Young Borovskova Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 102	Posted - 2012.06.04 12:19:00 - [84] - Quote Vincent Wright wrote: i will tell you a second time that i did already wrote my fit on page 2 or 3 i dont get why you are making such a big issue of that. L4s in a drake is even more faceroll Every 1.5 month old character knows that, c'mon
Gorki Andropov Kerensky Initiatives 958	Posted - 2012.06.04 12:22:00 - [85] - Quote Vincent Wright wrote: 1 1/2 Months ago i joined EVE and the Content is realy exciting and challenging for a HC gamer. I thought you 'HC gamers' (whatever the hell they are) could run level five missions in lowsec blindfolded, just laughing at the risks....oh wait, what's that? Your 'HC gaming' (which increasingly sounds like a haemorroid preparation) only runs to running level 4s in perfect, mind-numbing safety? Gotcha.
Tallian Saotome Fractured Core Fatal Ascension 778	Posted - 2012.06.04 12:24:00 - [86] - Quote Gorki Andropov wrote: Vincent Wright wrote: 1 1/2 Months ago i joined EVE and the Content is realy exciting and challenging for a HC gamer. I thought you 'HC gamers' (whatever the hell they are) could run level five missions in lowsec blindfolded, just laughing at the risks....oh wait, what's that? Your 'HC gaming' (which increasingly sounds like a haemorroid preparation) only runs to running level 4s in perfect, mind-numbing safety? Gotcha. No, his 'HC gaming' was playing WoW arenas. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Vincent Wright Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 10	Posted - 2012.06.04 12:24:00 - [87] - Quote DeMichael Crimson wrote: Vincent Wright Ignore the douches. Best thing to do is keep a cool head and reply with the 'Report' option - above their posted reply, located around the middle of the header is a little 'Flag' icon, next to the time stamp - click that 'Flag' and report them for any infraction of the Forum Rules. Believe me, it works. DMC thx mate, will do without, can manage. am courious about those 2 that think i am an alt, or am trolling me. will play around some, is entertaining. to the two trolls (wow internet is a crazy/scary place) yes for a hc gamer thats quite aparent after 2 weeks in the game actually. as always i read most of the info of game mechanics i can fit into my head, then decided on wich hulls i want to train. now keep that sort of learning curve for a year and u can maybe beat me at SC II. (1/2 year if ure toss)
Lin-Young Borovskova Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 102	Posted - 2012.06.04 12:30:00 - [88] - Quote Op I'm going to tell you this once: Run lvl4's in your 1.5month old char it's impossible, then if you're looking for challenge and think lvl 4's are not a challenge with such terrible SP/ship fittings then go for it and come back when you've done them all. With only 1.5mth skills you can barely fit your myrmidon cap stable, barely use meta 4 items and T1 drones, navigation and so on. This is why you will not make me believe you. You're either calling out people for stuff you have no idea about or that char is just another troll alt trying to state dumb stuff. The more I read around the less points you have, now it's only 2/10
March rabbit Trojan Trolls Red Alliance 192	Posted - 2012.06.04 12:45:00 - [89] - Quote Vincent Wright wrote: So what u think of reintroducing highsec team oriented PvE for small fleets of semi-rookies? it's simple: switch your Dominix to myrm, switch 2xMyrmidons to thoraxes. Viola! You have new level of lvl4 difficulty! Don't ask someone to find job for you. You are free man. Go and find it yourself.
Vincent Wright Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2012.06.04 12:45:00 - [90] - Quote you know this could even be a method to bait me into exposing my complete fit and my SP so everyone can target me. and you know what? i so much dont give a **** about that, that i will actually now take the efford and post my main Skill lvls and my fit: Drones: 865k (Gallente and min spec to II, DI to 4, rest is obvious) Electronics: 65k (targeting 3) Engineering: 100k (engeneering 4, everything concerning cap 3) gunnery: 153k mechanics: 211k navigation: 66k spaceship command: 361k 5x meta 4 650mm artys 1x DLA Fed Navy AB, DNC, 3x Cap Rechargers II 2x faction hardeners, 2x DDAs, 2x MAR IIs cap control unit, 2x nano pumps 2x fed navy ogres 5xhamm IIs or valk IIs 5x gob IIs or warrior IIs now will u come and gank me?

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