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D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:17:00 -
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We've seen incursions get nerfed. We've seen the drone goop nerf. Inferno is leading up to a good hit, but the one that would knock it out of the park to making EVE a true sensation would be sending all Level 4's to Low-sec.
This would indeed make things better :) Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |

Surfin's PlunderBunny
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:18:00 -
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This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen |

D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:20:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen
I know, it's been batted so many times, but things are looking up to making it happen. I could care less about the AFK guy with his 4 alt accounts, he's afk anyhow not playing so why is he upset that he won't be playing what he doesn't play?
derp. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |

Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:21:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen This. Also to incentive low sec activity, you need to add new content to actually hook people interest to get in there. Not taking one content and taking to low sec. Adding new ships that stuffs comes from Low sec?(just throwing random ideas) Loud and clear... |

D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:22:00 -
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Takamori Maruyama wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen This. Also to incentive low sec activity, you need to add new content to actually hook people interest to get in there. Not taking one content and taking to low sec. Adding new ships that stuffs comes from Low sec?(just throwing random ideas)
It's not new content, it's called balancing. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |

Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
139
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:22:00 -
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This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah. |

Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:22:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen I know, it's been batted so many times, but things are looking up to making it happen. I could care less about the AFK guy with his 4 alt accounts, he's afk anyhow not playing so why is he upset that he won't be playing what he doesn't play? derp.
Generalizing everything kinda kill your purpose and your support :P. Maybe he needs that isk to be his safe income to finance his pvp activities?
Also "balancing" you need a purpose. But according to your argument, people only do lvl 4 to afk and then afk? So moving lvl 4 will do nothing. Actually you will force people to go Null sec in safe heaven corps. Just pay a tax and you are good to go. Loud and clear... |

D3F4ULT
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:23:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah.
make isk in high sec running L4s, so you can afford the damn ships to pvp in.
Learn to play, not AFK. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |

Price Check Aisle3
88
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:25:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Learn to play, not AFK. You're gonna get some millage out of that one, kudos. |

Shea Valerien
House of Valerien
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:27:00 -
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No. Stop trying to impose your desire to gatecamp mission runners.
The whole gatecamping nonsense is silly anyway. Eve would be a much better game without it. |

D3F4ULT
89
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:27:00 -
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Takamori Maruyama wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen I know, it's been batted so many times, but things are looking up to making it happen. I could care less about the AFK guy with his 4 alt accounts, he's afk anyhow not playing so why is he upset that he won't be playing what he doesn't play? derp. Generalizing everything kinda kill your purpose and your support :P. Maybe he needs that isk to be his safe income to finance his pvp activities? Also "balancing" you need a purpose. But according to your argument, people only do lvl 4 to afk and then afk? So moving lvl 4 will do nothing. Actually you will force people to go Null sec in safe heaven corps. Just pay a tax and you are good to go.
Level 4's would then make a better investment due to risk vs reward. The game is ran by things blowing up. Without destruction (as noted during CCP's EVE FEST 2012) the cogs won't turn in the world of eve.
Low-Sec doesn't have a current purpose other than being there. Creating a reason to be there gives low* sec a purpose. There's still safety of Local chat and no Warp disruptions. Thus "Learn to Play" instead of your safety net of High Sec where trading should be the main purpose. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |

Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
141
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:27:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah.
make isk in high sec running L4s, so you can afford the damn ships to pvp in. Learn to play, not AFK.
Learn to not suggest terribad ideas. I never AFK. |

D3F4ULT
89
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:29:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah.
make isk in high sec running L4s, so you can afford the damn ships to pvp in. Learn to play, not AFK. Learn to not suggest terribad ideas. I never AFK.
Terrible in what regard. Terrible in the fact you can't cope? Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |

Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:31:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Takamori Maruyama wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen I know, it's been batted so many times, but things are looking up to making it happen. I could care less about the AFK guy with his 4 alt accounts, he's afk anyhow not playing so why is he upset that he won't be playing what he doesn't play? derp. Generalizing everything kinda kill your purpose and your support :P. Maybe he needs that isk to be his safe income to finance his pvp activities? Also "balancing" you need a purpose. But according to your argument, people only do lvl 4 to afk and then afk? So moving lvl 4 will do nothing. Actually you will force people to go Null sec in safe heaven corps. Just pay a tax and you are good to go. Level 4's would then make a better investment due to risk vs reward. The game is ran by things blowing up. Without destruction (as noted during CCP's EVE FEST 2012) the cogs won't turn in the world of eve. Low-Sec doesn't have a current purpose other than being there. Creating a reason to be there gives low* sec a purpose. There's still safety of Local chat and no Warp disruptions. Thus "Learn to Play" instead of your safety net of High Sec where trading should be the main purpose.
And like I said previously , if you want Low sec to be given a purpose besides gate camping, you need to add actual content that makes it flow with life. This balance will only bring unsubs and even you know it. Unsubs= not good, we want to see the game expand. Loud and clear... |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1008
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:32:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah.
make isk in high sec running L4s, so you can afford the damn ships to pvp in. Learn to play, not AFK. Learn to not suggest terribad ideas. I never AFK. Terrible in what regard. Terrible in the fact you can't cope? Well at least he isn't AFKing ...
You're already better than a large number of, say, ice miners. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd |

D3F4ULT
89
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:32:00 -
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Takamori Maruyama wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Takamori Maruyama wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:This has been discussed before, the potential rage quitting make it probably not going to happen I know, it's been batted so many times, but things are looking up to making it happen. I could care less about the AFK guy with his 4 alt accounts, he's afk anyhow not playing so why is he upset that he won't be playing what he doesn't play? derp. Generalizing everything kinda kill your purpose and your support :P. Maybe he needs that isk to be his safe income to finance his pvp activities? Also "balancing" you need a purpose. But according to your argument, people only do lvl 4 to afk and then afk? So moving lvl 4 will do nothing. Actually you will force people to go Null sec in safe heaven corps. Just pay a tax and you are good to go. Level 4's would then make a better investment due to risk vs reward. The game is ran by things blowing up. Without destruction (as noted during CCP's EVE FEST 2012) the cogs won't turn in the world of eve. Low-Sec doesn't have a current purpose other than being there. Creating a reason to be there gives low* sec a purpose. There's still safety of Local chat and no Warp disruptions. Thus "Learn to Play" instead of your safety net of High Sec where trading should be the main purpose. And like I said previously , if you want Low sec to be given a purpose besides gate camping, you need to add actual content that makes it flow with life. This balance will only bring unsubs and even you know it. Unsubs= not good, we want to see the game expand.
Unsubs gets rid of all the inflated accounts and promotes a real playing experience. Sorry I want the MMO to be a sandbox, not a kiddie pool. Creator of CCP ZULU - Incarna : Pants Online ( http://youtu.be/AObrlCf3Dcs ) |

Kiteo Hatto
The Fiction Factory Blue Nation
141
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:33:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:D3F4ULT wrote:Kiteo Hatto wrote:This is a terrible idea......more pvper want mission fits on their kb's blah blah blah.
make isk in high sec running L4s, so you can afford the damn ships to pvp in. Learn to play, not AFK. Learn to not suggest terribad ideas. I never AFK. Terrible in what regard. Terrible in the fact you can't cope?
Terrible as in nobody will run L4s anymore. They will run L3s in high sec in pimped battlecruisers/t3s. Others would just do exploration in lowsec.
I don't want to "have to cope", yes, let me take my marauder into low for a mission that takes like 20 minutes and that will only pay out like 15m on average given the risk that i can get ganked ? Thanks,but i would rather do lowsec exploration in a speedy T3. |

SetrakDark
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
36
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:52:00 -
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Never gonna happen. |

Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
330
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:56:00 -
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Maybe you don't care about rage quitting over moving L4s, but I expect CCP does. It's a good thing for the game that you're no developer. They might get drunk enough to listen to you. |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
436
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Posted - 2012.06.08 21:59:00 -
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At this point it would be easier to simply create a new isk pipe in lowsec than it would be to move the ones sitting in highsec. |

masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
681
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Posted - 2012.06.08 22:00:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:At this point it would be easier to simply create a new isk pipe in lowsec than it would be to move the ones sitting in highsec.
Just make LO SEC incursions obscenely profitable. Things are only impossible until they are not. |

Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2012.06.08 22:01:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:At this point it would be easier to simply create a new isk pipe in lowsec than it would be to move the ones sitting in highsec. Exactly my point. I just called it as "new content" Loud and clear... |

Takamori Maruyama
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2012.06.08 22:02:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:At this point it would be easier to simply create a new isk pipe in lowsec than it would be to move the ones sitting in highsec. Just make LO SEC incursions obscenely profitable.
God that would just give me the necessary tap in the back to be a pirate. Loud and clear... |

SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
436
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Posted - 2012.06.08 22:03:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:At this point it would be easier to simply create a new isk pipe in lowsec than it would be to move the ones sitting in highsec. Just make LO SEC incursions obscenely profitable.
They used to be :v |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1714
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Posted - 2012.06.08 22:03:00 -
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Level 4s are fine where they are. with incursions nerfed, highsec is where it should be. Let's just leave it at that. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |

masternerdguy
Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate
681
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Posted - 2012.06.08 22:03:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:masternerdguy wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:At this point it would be easier to simply create a new isk pipe in lowsec than it would be to move the ones sitting in highsec. Just make LO SEC incursions obscenely profitable. They used to be :v
But so were the hi sec ones. Things are only impossible until they are not. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1714
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Posted - 2012.06.08 22:05:00 -
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Takamori Maruyama wrote:Also to incentive low sec activity, you need to add new content to actually hook people interest to get in there.
I *still* say the key to drawing people to lowsec is to make it attractive to small corporations who aren't looking to be part of FW. It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |

Rath Kelbore
The Six-Pack Syndicate
234
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Posted - 2012.06.08 23:50:00 -
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Instead of moving lvl 4's to low sec, move low sec to the lvl 4's. Reduce the number of high security space significantly. I plan on living forever.......so far, so good. |

Sarah Schneider
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
563
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Posted - 2012.06.09 00:01:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:At this point it would be easier to simply create a new isk pipe in lowsec than it would be to move the ones sitting in highsec. Just make LO SEC incursions obscenely profitable. Yes. "Eve isnGÇÖt some welcoming online utopia: itGÇÖs cut-throat, cruel, atavistic despite the futuristic setting. Give people a sandbox, and theyGÇÖll throw the sand in a rivalGÇÖs eyes before kicking them in the shins and destroying their sandcastle." -Keza MacDonald, IGN. |

Syndrea Caedrion
State War Academy Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.06.09 00:05:00 -
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D3F4ULT wrote:sending all Level 4's to Low-sec.
This would indeed make things better :)
Once again, you take away Lvl 4s and you cripple the playerbase.
Four years I've seen this crap and people still think it's a good idea. *sigh* Ok...how would this make Eve better again?  They somehow managed to get every freak and creep in the universe in this one game, and then somehow managed to let them take it over, and then they somehow managed to stick us right smack in the middle. |
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