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Dirk Mortice	Posted - 2009.10.10 19:04:00 - [61] Originally by: lollerwaffle Erm, that was a bit random. Made me lol th In reference to the OP, Atticus Fynch "To Kill a Mockingbird" http://www.novelguide.com/tokillamockingbird/toptenquotes.html 3) When he gave us our air-rifles Atticus wouldn't teach us to shoot. Uncle Jack instructed us in the rudiments thereof; he said Atticus wasn't interested in guns. Atticus said to Jem, "I'd rather you shot at tin cans in the back yard, but I know you'll go after birds. Shoot all the bluejays you want, if you can hit 'em, but remember it's a sin to kill a mockingbird." That was the only time I ever hear Atticus say it was a sin to do something, and I asked Miss Maudie about it. "You're father's right," she said. "Mockingbirds don't do one thing but make music for us to enjoy. They don't eat up people's gardens, don't nest in corncribs, they don't do one thing but sing their hearts out for us. That's why it's a sin to kill a mocking bird." (98)
Ancy Denaries Caldari The Confederate Navy Forever Unbound	Posted - 2009.10.10 19:06:00 - [62] I really didn't get that last post. What the hell was the po Originally by: Cors 1vs1's are as close to PVP as a Boxing ring is to being jumped in an alley by 4 people with knives and baseball bats.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2009.10.10 19:19:00 - [63] Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Amanda Mor I know "ad hominem" is the current trendy word being used to make you sound smart, but you should at least use it in the right context instead of just throwing it about whenever you don't like someone. Ad hominem refers to making your response against and/or about the individual rather than addressing a response to the individual's argument. You know; like saying "it was another **ty post by a *ty poster" without actually saying anything about the content of the post itself or the issue it raised. Another good example would be to suggest that someone used a particular phrase to be "trendy" or in an attempt to "look smart", thereby attacking the individual's (supposed) motives* rather that what they actually said, especially so when the phrase in question is both correct and cogent. Oh trust me, the conclusion that it was a ***ty post didn't come from the fact it was the OP who suggested it. It was just an added bonus that this was the second brain-dead idea that had came from the same person. If i were attacking the OP's idea only* because it was the OP who suggested it, i would have said "HTFU and STFU OP your idea's are terrible" _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout :facepalm:
Celeritas 5k Caldari Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.10.10 19:20:00 - [64] Originally by: Zeredek Why do people stop talking in the middle of their sente cause of the sniper, see him he's right - NEVER PVP SOBER.
Zeredek	Posted - 2009.10.12 17:31:00 - [65] Originally by: Celeritas 5k Originally by: Zeredek Why do people stop talking in the middle of their sente cause of the sniper, see him he's right Hey i see h
Flop Flip	Posted - 2009.10.12 17:45:00 - [66] Originally by: Zeredek Originally by: Celeritas 5k Originally by: Zeredek Why do people stop talking in the middle of their sente cause of the sniper, see him he's right Hey i see h You people are ******ed and so is this joke. If you were shot by a sniper then how did you hit the post reply bu
Zeredek	Posted - 2009.10.12 17:47:00 - [67] Originally by: Flop Flip Originally by: Zeredek Originally by: Celeritas 5k Originally by: Zeredek Why do people stop talking in the middle of their sente cause of the sniper, see him he's right Hey i see h You people are ******ed and so is this joke. If you were shot by a sniper then how did you hit the post reply bu That's a good que
Thrassoss	Posted - 2009.10.12 19:57:00 - [68] Actually there is some boxes that cargo scanners can't see into. Never tried them out but I've seen them in 'contracts'. But instead of changing something as wide ranging as ECM, might be a simpler tactic to make a low slot mod(to balance cargo size vs. scan-ability) that makes your cargo harder to scan (ie each item has a 30% to 80% chance of not showing up to a cargo scanner) and a mid slot to make your fitting harder to see.
Prospectordesu	Posted - 2009.10.12 20:54:00 - [69] Use a radar jammer on an airport IRL. Lulz will ensue. Right before an investigation and possible civillian death. How is this relevant? It is not.
Saxton Hale	Posted - 2009.10.13 09:12:00 - [70] God I thought that candlejack joke was stupid, but this snip

Ral Ulgur Dusty Death Enterprise	Posted - 2009.10.13 09:58:00 - [71] Its a game not RL. Nonetheless I find the following comparison quite appropriate: You can't just drop buckets of paint one someones car rendering their windows viewless even though the car may be parked in front of your home and someone inside the car might be looking at your home to determine if there is something worth stealing.
Zeredek	Posted - 2009.10.13 19:22:00 - [72] Originally by: Saxton Hale God I thought that candlejack joke was stupid, but this snip You'd think people would get over it alr
Zedrik Cayne Gallente Standards and Practices	Posted - 2009.10.13 19:52:00 - [73] The only 'imbalance' that exists, is that cargo scanners and ship scanners do not generate aggression. Maybe we can get that changed. Fifteen minutes of aggression for the pilot that you just scanned anyone? (Not their corp...just the pilot.) That way you can jam the heck out of the guy trying to scan you. Sound reasonable? Hm..I might have to suggest this in the ideas section. -- Originally by: "RedSplat" You're the internet equivalent of a Deepfried Mars bar filled with stupid.
Jin Nib Resplendent Knives	Posted - 2009.10.13 19:54:00 - [74] Originally by: Ral Ulgur Its a game not RL. Nonetheless I find the following comparison quite appropriate: You can't just drop buckets of paint one someones car rendering their windows viewless even though the car may be parked in front of your home and someone inside the car might be looking at your home to determine if there is something worth stealing. You can, but the police might have something to say about it. Note: I read that anti-LOL thread and now I want to put it at the end of every sentence. Does anyone know if this desire is permanent? -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
Zeredek	Posted - 2009.10.15 05:45:00 - [75] Edited by: Zeredek on 15/10/2009 05:45:22 Originally by: Jin Nib Originally by: Ral Ulgur Its a game not RL. Nonetheless I find the following comparison quite appropriate: You can't just drop buckets of paint one someones car rendering their windows viewless even though the car may be parked in front of your home and someone inside the car might be looking at your home to determine if there is something worth stealing. You can, but the police might have something to say about it. Note: I read that anti-LOL thread and now I want to put it at the end of every sentence. Does anyone know if this desire is permanent? Yes, it's permanent EDIT: LOL
Lotus Sutra Caldari Sutra Inc	Posted - 2009.10.15 08:30:00 - [76] Originally by: Flop Flip Originally by: Zeredek Originally by: Celeritas 5k Originally by: Zeredek Why do people stop talking in the middle of their sente cause of the sniper, see him he's right Hey i see h You people are ******ed and so is this joke. If you were shot by a sniper then how did you hit the post reply bu It's a new forum mechanic put in place by CCP. After 5 minutes your comment will automatically post if you have no activity. That is how they post after getting head shot by that sni ------------------------------------------------ No you can't have my stuff
Alpha Tyranius	Posted - 2009.10.16 14:22:00 - [77] Originally by: Zedrik Cayne The only 'imbalance' that exists, is that cargo scanners and ship scanners do not generate aggression. Maybe we can get that changed. Fifteen minutes of aggression for the pilot that you just scanned anyone? (Not their corp...just the pilot.) That way you can jam the heck out of the guy trying to scan you. Sound reasonable? Hm..I might have to suggest this in the ideas section. I'm new to EVE and have been enjoying the missioning side of things, for now, so there's probably lots I'm missing from the balance point of view. That said - the aggressions thing seems like a good idea, not sure of the knock on effects about balance :) How about introducing a mechanism for protection or counter? seems to be the case for other things throughout EVE....like a kind of 'warp core stabilizer' for scanners? Then the 'scannee' has the choice to what level to protect themselves and the 'scanner' has the choice on how many gank slots to give up? I'll get my asbestos pants in preparation for the impending n00b flaming :)
TimMc Gallente Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2009.10.16 14:49:00 - [78] oh lawd. If they made ECM non-aggression it would be hilarious. I would scan down people in missions just to permajam them.
Ral Ulgur Dusty Death Enterprise	Posted - 2009.10.16 15:38:00 - [79] Edited by: Ral Ulgur on 16/10/2009 15:38:34 Originally by: Jin Nib Originally by: Ral Ulgur stuff. You can, but the police might have something to say about it. Note: I read that anti-LOL thread and now I want to put it at the end of every sentence. Does anyone know if this desire is permanent? Put it in your sig along with a link to the anti-LOL thread! Save the LOLs, the LOLSTREAM MUST FLOW!!! Edit: LOL
Kaalen Caldari Shards of Apathy	Posted - 2009.10.16 16:09:00 - [80] Using any module which can be used to negatively effect the functionality of my ship in any way, shape or form is an offensive act. ECM prevents my targeting systems from working so they fall under the above criteria, they aren't "the same as guns" they're considered the same as warp disruptors or webbers and I think it's perfectly reasonable that they be considered offensive.

Ferkimer Burns Perkone	Posted - 2009.10.16 17:00:00 - [81] If you're stupid you should always flash red. CCP needs to fix this.
lollerwaffle Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE	Posted - 2009.10.16 20:12:00 - [82] Originally by: Ferkimer Burns If you're stupid you should always flash red. CCP needs to fix this. I agr
Seriah Rezin Minmatar	Posted - 2009.10.16 20:40:00 - [83] Quote: Why are ECM jammers considered offensive? Because I hates them.
Dristra Amarr Idle Haven	Posted - 2009.10.16 22:28:00 - [84] op gotta be a troll


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