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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.31 16:31:00 -
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...because we actually made the news!
I hope to see you all, and more people, at the next Hulkageddon!
news article: http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=3512&tid=7
And quoted for people too lazy to click:
Quote: Pirate corporations band together for æhulkageddonÆ reported by ISD Deacon York | 2009.10.29 19:43:27
Sinq Laison, A group of pirate corporations and several capsuleers within empire corporations declared a one day pogrom against empire-based miners; the operation was designated ôHulkageddonö and was spread out over multiple regions and systems with fleet commanders coordinating the times of attack.
Members of approximately eighteen corporations took part, including The Python Cartel. [GROP3], I.M.M. [IMM], The Bastards [BSTRD], and Space Jerks [UJERK] alongside members of the empire corporations The Scope [TS], Garoun Investment Bank [GIB] and Sebiestor Tribe [S]; all willing participants in this self described ôterrorist actö. According to several reports, the organizer of this attack was Helicity Boson of The Python Cartel.
While the exact motivations behind this act are unknown, Hulkageddon involved a concerted effort to hunt down and destroy empire based miners, despite the certainty of CONCORD intervention. A GalNet notice posted by the offenders claims that the group engaged and destroyed ô66 Exhumers, 22 mining barges and 27 podsö, with no losses incurred by return fire from their victims.
Attacking ship types, as described by Kobrakilla [UJERK], were ôprimarily Catalysts and several battleships fitted with smart bombs.ö In addition to security rating penalties, most of the capsuleers involved lost their ships to the CONCORD response fleets.
Kobrakilla describes ôstunned silenceö as the only response of their victims to these attacks, followed by other potential targets ôdocking up en masse.ö He estimates the combined ship loss for Hulkageddon participants to be approximately ô300 disposable ships, paid for by insurance and lootö, adding that so many Catalysts were lost to CONCORD that at one point ôwe bought Jita out of Catalysts.ö
This attack serves to underscore the continuing need for all capsuleers to be vigilant of their surroundings and exercise due caution regardless of the security status of the system that they are in. KobrakillaÆs closing remark serves to further reinforce the point, he states that ôthisàis notàthe end.ö
None of the victims contacted could be reached for comment.
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Absolute Clarity
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.31 19:45:00 -
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66 Exhumers? Wow.
You guys are badasses.
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Triksterism
Victory or Whatever
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Posted - 2009.10.31 19:55:00 -
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Sounds like it was fun, but tbqh, GoonSwarm did it best with Jihadswarm. - User Triksterism is banned pending investigation Reason: You're not welcome here.
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QFX
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Posted - 2009.10.31 19:55:00 -
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that is some historic event right there 
66 hulks down the drain? ... hot sausage..
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Panzram
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.10.31 19:59:00 -
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one throwaway BS w/ smartbombs can get 6+ hulks in one go if they are close enough together. the character will have a -10 sec p fast.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.31 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Helicity Boson on 31/10/2009 20:16:50
Originally by: Panzram one throwaway BS w/ smartbombs can get 6+ hulks in one go if they are close enough together. the character will have a -10 sec p fast.
Well, I wouldnt pretend we could outdo the numbers and resources goonswarm can throw at miners. But we sure had a good time and did a fair amount of damage for our numbers in just one weekend :)
One of your guys even gave the top killer a prize, go goonswarm!
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.10.31 20:29:00 -
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Btw, are you still calling it a terrorist's act? To me it seemed like a cry-out by Caldari business men.
Buying cheap ships at Jita, all insured, and shooting miners in the region around Dodixie?!?
If you seriously intended it as a terrorist's act then you have done the biggest favour to Caldari business in a long time. --
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.31 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound Btw, are you still calling it a terrorist's act? To me it seemed like a cry-out by Caldari business men.
Buying cheap ships at Jita, all insured, and shooting miners in the region around Dodixie?!?
If you seriously intended it as a terrorist's act then you have done the biggest favour to Caldari business in a long time.
I... dont think I ever consciously called it that myself. I didnt write the news article.
Actually when the idea first surfaced in corp, we were mostly motivated by the fact that all the hulks we popped the week BEFORE has -large- rigs on them. A clear indication they did not die often enough.
So we did something about it.
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.10.31 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson Actually when the idea first surfaced in corp, we were mostly motivated by the fact that all the hulks we popped the week BEFORE has -large- rigs on them. A clear indication they did not die often enough.
So we did something about it.
So now people have to buy new Hulks and fit in medium-sized rigs before you stop? I thought your plan was to never stop. Whatever. New Hulks and new rigs do not grow on asteroids. You have only made the miners poorer and the manufacturers richer. And who is paying the miners for the ore and minerals? You can figure it out for yourself.
Are you at least getting paid by someone for this? --
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Dors Venabily
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Posted - 2009.10.31 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Absolute Clarity 66 Exhumers? Wow.
You guys are badasses.
You mean badly sore asses ?
weeee killed some hulks big ****ing deal
get 66 thoraxes you can fking solo it 
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The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.10.31 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound Btw, are you still calling it a terrorist's act? To me it seemed like a cry-out by Caldari business men.
Buying cheap ships at Jita, all insured, and shooting miners in the region around Dodixie?!?
If you seriously intended it as a terrorist's act then you have done the biggest favour to Caldari business in a long time.
Were way to lazy to travel all the way to Jita. We manufacture most of our own suiciding ships.
Ironically, much of the minerals for making those ships come from ganking greedy haulers trying to deliver product to Decon.   
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.10.31 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: The Crushah Were way to lazy to travel all the way to Jita. We manufacture most of our own suiciding ships.
Ironically, much of the minerals for making those ships come from ganking greedy haulers trying to deliver product to Decon.   
What about the platinum insurances for those ships? --
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.31 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: The Crushah Were way to lazy to travel all the way to Jita. We manufacture most of our own suiciding ships.
Ironically, much of the minerals for making those ships come from ganking greedy haulers trying to deliver product to Decon.   
What about the platinum insurances for those ships?
if you think we are doing this out of some overwhelming need to balance the economy of for any higher purpose than "lulz" you clearly do not "get" Hulkageddon 
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.10.31 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson if you think we are doing this out of some overwhelming need to balance the economy of for any higher purpose than "lulz" you clearly do not "get" Hulkageddon 
No, that is not what I think. I am wondering what your goals are. To create more awareness is just bloody nonsense. Everyone knows that one can get blown up even in high-sec. You need to have some hidden motives or you were tricked into believing that nonsense for yourself. So either you did it, because you got paid for it, or you were manipulated by someone and that someone is now making lots of ISKs. --
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.10.31 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Helicity Boson if you think we are doing this out of some overwhelming need to balance the economy of for any higher purpose than "lulz" you clearly do not "get" Hulkageddon 
No, that is not what I think. I am wondering what your goals are. To create more awareness is just bloody nonsense. Everyone knows that one can get blown up even in high-sec. You need to have some hidden motives or you were tricked into believing that nonsense for yourself. So either you did it, because you got paid for it, or you were manipulated by someone and that someone is now making lots of ISKs.
Duck dude! the black helicopter is RIGHT ABOVE YOUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW!
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.10.31 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson Duck dude! the black helicopter is RIGHT ABOVE YOUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW!
So it is the black helicopters? Well at least I got an answer.  --
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.11.01 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Helicity Boson Duck dude! the black helicopter is RIGHT ABOVE YOUR HOUSE RIGHT NOW!
So it is the black helicopters? Well at least I got an answer. 
The reality is, of course, that I know a lot of these bad people, and it turns out they are really fun and nice people as well. So I thought it would be fun to do something together. And we all like blowing up hulks :D
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.11.01 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson And we all like blowing up hulks :D
It is the guaranteed win against mining barges and exhumers that makes it so much fun, am I right? --
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.11.01 01:13:00 -
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Edited by: FunzzeR on 01/11/2009 01:13:08
Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Helicity Boson if you think we are doing this out of some overwhelming need to balance the economy of for any higher purpose than "lulz" you clearly do not "get" Hulkageddon 
No, that is not what I think. I am wondering what your goals are. To create more awareness is just bloody nonsense. Everyone knows that one can get blown up even in high-sec. You need to have some hidden motives or you were tricked into believing that nonsense for yourself. So either you did it, because you got paid for it, or you were manipulated by someone and that someone is now making lots of ISKs.
The Scottish Fold makes me do terrible things like gank Hulks. It tells me that it is the only way I can repent for my past sins (mining).
I can only hope that the Scottish Fold will forgive me as I walk the path to absolution.
Praise the Scottish Fold!!
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.11.01 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: FunzzeR The Scottish Fold makes me do terrible things like gank Hulks. It tells me that it is the only way I can repent for my past sins (mining).
I can only hope that the Scottish Fold will forgive me as I walk the path to absolution.
Praise the Scottish Fold!!
Oh my. I had no idea. Get off the cat food immediately! --
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Golden Helmet
Caldari The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.11.01 02:30:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
So now people have to buy new Hulks and fit in medium-sized rigs before you stop? I thought your plan was to never stop. Whatever. New Hulks and new rigs do not grow on asteroids. You have only made the miners poorer and the manufacturers richer. And who is paying the miners for the ore and minerals? You can figure it out for yourself.
Are you at least getting paid by someone for this?
My corp doesn't take contracts. We're pirates, not mercs. We did it for the lulz, making random reasons is half the fun
Originally by: Whitehound
No, that is not what I think. I am wondering what your goals are. To create more awareness is just bloody nonsense. Everyone knows that one can get blown up even in high-sec. You need to have some hidden motives or you were tricked into believing that nonsense for yourself. So either you did it, because you got paid for it, or you were manipulated by someone and that someone is now making lots of ISKs.
HULKAGEDDONÖ was spread out across multiple regions and multiple corps (most of which aren't blue to eachother, but apparently loved the idea). And again, as I mentioned, we're not mercs, nobody can "hire" us to do anything unless they're asking for passage through our system. We don't cater to weak carebears that have to resort to hiring guns instead of fighting their own fights.
(Yes, I don't like mercs very much)
Again, it was for the lulz. My guys love to suicide gank every now and again, so why not make an empire-wide event of it?
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. The rest of the time, it's my manhood.
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Manx Broker
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Posted - 2009.11.01 02:30:00 -
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They did it for the same reason the Goons did it...kids crave the attention.
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Golden Helmet
Caldari The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.11.01 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Manx Broker They did it for the same reason the Goons did it...kids crave the attention.
Awwwww, isn't that cute guys? The carebear alt is butthurt
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Nyxster
Gallente Gatecrashers
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Posted - 2009.11.01 02:43:00 -
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You damn bears iz all obsessed by the sordid internetz moneyz!!!
Why do people think the only reason to do murda in Eve is for Moneyz?
mercs murder for profit, terrorists murda innocents because we LIKE IT.
we're cowards. so sue us.
well done hulkageddon. moar bear pain plz and don't be shy with sending us the invitez. we will do their pods as well.
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Omgah
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Posted - 2009.11.01 03:09:00 -
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How many of these threads do we honestly need.
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The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.11.01 05:19:00 -
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Suiciding miners provides us lulz and if we do it correct, a bit of profit.
Much <3 to the Python Cartel and everyone else who participated in HULKAGEDDON for spreading the terror and mayhem across the universe  
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Whitehound
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Posted - 2009.11.01 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nyxster Why do people think the only reason to do murda in Eve is for Moneyz?
Because in the news report it said that you bought your ships at Jita and had them all insured. This tells me that the ISK plays a great role for you.
But let us stick with the reason that you did it for the lulz. Say, how many of the miners were afk?
I know that I am afk most of the time when I go mining, because there is just nothing to do in EVE when one mines. The mining barges and exhumers are then so slow and inert, and thin as a paper bag, that I cannot care even if I wanted to when someone comes and shots me. The rats in 0.5 can shot a Retriever down even when you have five drones out and drone interfacing at level 3. 
Shooting miners may give you the lulz, but it also makes me pity you for you do not know what to do with your EVE account.
I wonder, who adjusted their standings with all the corps who participated in the event? I know I did not!  --
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2009.11.01 09:14:00 -
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Well people will have their reasons.
But I recall someone trying to roll play an "anti pirate" some time ago, practicing 4th Generation Warfare (the kind that kills empires - Afghanistan for example), and a lot of pirates were complaining like someone was trying to pass a federal law against ganking or something.
So, if "carebears" are not allowed to complain, let's make that all around.
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Golden Helmet
Caldari The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.11.01 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: Whitehound
Because in the news report it said that you bought your ships at Jita and had them all insured. This tells me that the ISK plays a great role for you.
I can't attest to the other corps, but I did the supply run for Python and Space Jerks and I went to Jita for my freighter full of goodies. Why Jita? Where else can you get over 140 Catalysts + fits on short notice? Without getting charged out my rear cavity? No other hub has the same supply at the same price as Jita does. So rather than run across the region to get 1000+ light blasters, 300+ mag stabs, etc etc etc, the lazy in me told me to send the fritter to Jita.
As for insurance? Spending 4-5m in Catalysts to blow up a 100+m Hulk is lulzy enough, but cutting that cost to, what, 1m after insurance? Before hulk loot and catalyst loot recovery? That's just icing on the grief cake
Go ahead though, keep on trying to find some hidden motive in it. Here, let me fuel the fire a bit. We were obviously hired by BoB (they never died, fyi. Their "death" was planned at the 1983 BoB BBQ, didn't you know?). Their Hulk producers were getting bored, so us, being the lowly lowsec pirates \ bob pets that we are, gladly did as our bob masters commanded and destroyed the hulks so our glorious bob overlords could make moar profit
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Ntrails
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Posted - 2009.11.01 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Absolute Clarity 66 Exhumers? Wow.
You guys are badasses.
With a really, really bad name.
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