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Moraguth Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.11.29 03:43:00 - [31] Originally by: Mithrandar The volume of carbides (advanced materials) has been reduced to 0.01m3 from 0.05m3. that's not reduction, is it? Yes, that's a reduction. It is 1/5th the size now. Originally by: Bel Amar What does this line mean? After you have probed down a cosmic signature to 100% strength, it is now possible to warp to it with less than 3 probes without throwing an exception. To probe it down, you need 4 probes. If you've only got 3, you can't get a warpable hit, so how does this exception ever arise in the first place? Once, the site has been probed down, if you pull a probe back into your bay you might only have a couple (or none) still in space. I usually just bookmark it right away and then just warp to my bookmark at whatever range. Originally by: Denise Bloch Edited by: Denise Bloch on 29/11/2009 02:37:33 Edited by: Denise Bloch on 29/11/2009 02:34:20 Originally by: Ania Selnor Works a lot better if you read the full patch notes for that out-of-context quote: Faction and Navy ships have been revamped. For details see CCP YtterbiumÆs blog Adding flavour to your faction meal .Ships that are in space, in a station (either active or in the hanger), or stored in a Ship Maintenance Array structure will have their modules moved to their cargo hold. Ships that are stored in a Ship Maintenance Bay aboard a carrier will have their modules removed to the carrier's cargo hold. I did read full patch notes, notice that my quote has more included in it than the "out of context quote". I didn't think the first part "faction and navy ships..." were important for understanding the meaning. Edit: ok, I think I finally found the reference, this is just talking about moving items to your cargo hold during deployment of the patch, and not during regular gameplay? The devblog doesn't explicitly state anything, just that it's recommended you dock incase stuff is moved to your cargohold. I now see this, but it isn't like it's an obvious point that was made. Is it so hard to say that its going going to occur once during deployment instead of just quoting stuff back to people? The left out parts are the most important. They're saying that those faction ships that are being revamped are going to have their fittings stripped and placed in their cargoholds. They put the part about being in a carrier's ship MX bay so that people wouldn't try to cheat and keep their fits on anyway. good game Hoc filum tradit - This thread delivers.
Tweakalvos Gallente Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.11.29 05:46:00 - [32] So where is the Assault Frig Revamp. That was the **** and made them useful
Sul Trewtis ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.29 05:59:00 - [33] So when are we going to get a dev blog from CCP CAPSLOCK? He (or she) must be a new hire because I've never seen them mentioned or post on the forums before. Good patch notes with a few easter eggs for those of us crazy enough to read them all. :D -------------------------------------------------- Civil Disobedience is still Disobedience The most damage is done by those that know how and not why
Nobues Gallente Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.11.29 06:08:00 - [34] 0.0 politics are going to get so much fun. I wish CCP nothing but a smooth deployment on the first. Thanks for working so hard to change the game for the better, because at the end of the day, its still just a game. .....well not for you guys, its kinda your job and a way of life, but ya get the point. Good luck
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Burning Horizons	Posted - 2009.11.29 07:13:00 - [35] So why are we nerfing the Nag back to worse than it was last patch when it was finally made to be on par with the other dreadnoughts? Why don't you guys listen to feedback? Also on the other issue of moving mods to cargoholds you can't do that as far as I know since you can't place a ship with anything in cargo other than ammo into a ship hangar array, if this results in the ejection of ships your gonna have a lot of mad folks. Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts. Your signature is too large. Please resize it to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes. -Mitnal
Silver Tongues	Posted - 2009.11.29 07:24:00 - [36] "Ballistic Control Units now correctly apply their bonuses to missile damage." What was wrong with BCU's before? Other than that question, I have to say these patch notes are LONG AS HELL and I'm extremely excited to see the outcome of the expansion.

CCP Navigator C C P	Posted - 2009.11.29 07:26:00 - [37] I want to try and give some feedback here to queries. Please note that I may not have all the answers in which case I will try and get the relevant teams to provide details whenever possible. Quote: There's no mention of the 5 minute cycle time for Triage modules, was this removed? I did not hear anything about this being removed. I will check with the relevant team in case it was omitted in error. Quote: You can now pull PLEX items out of the game and into the redeeming system so that these items can be used on the Eve-Online website. What this change essentially does is allow people who have had accounts expire to use a PLEX from the website to reactivate the account. Previously they would need to submit a petition and request a grace period to make the account active again. This allows people to have a much faster turnaround time and to get their accounts up and running asap. Quote: So where is the Assault Frig Revamp. That was the ** and made them useful Although I am not 100% sure on this I believe that the Assault Frigate revamp was put on hold until a future patch or expansion. I will double check with the relevant team and try to update this as I know more. Some people were confused about a patch note concerning module removal from certain ships so the patch note has been amended as follows: "Faction and Navy ships have been revamped. For details see CCP YtterbiumÆs blog Adding flavour to your faction meal. Please note that only ships who have received a change to slot layout; be they ships that are in space, in a station (either active or in the hanger), or stored in a Ship Maintenance Array structure will have their modules moved to their cargo hold. Ships that are stored in a Ship Maintenance Bay aboard a carrier will have their modules removed to the carrier's cargo hold." Navigator Senior Community Representative** CCP Hf, EVE Online

Zaisig Murakk Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.11.29 07:42:00 - [38] So why the bonus change on the nag. It seems like you're going backwards. Minmatar now need to train twice as many weapon skills as anybody else in a dread and despite that will have undoubtedly the worst dread.
Theron Gyrow Gradient Electus Matari	Posted - 2009.11.29 08:21:00 - [39] Quote: The Phoenix has a new bonus: 5% bonus to kinetic missile damage per level of Caldari Dreadnought Skill. Uh, what? It has that now, I believe? Quote: The Naglfar has a new bonus: 5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level of Minmatar Dreadnought Skill. In exchange, the Naglfar has lost its bonus to projectile rate of fire. Does this mean that Naglfar keeps +7.5/level projectile damage bonus, or is that downgraded to 5%/level, too? Quote: Tracking computers have had their accuracy falloff bonus doubled, and the stacking penalty has been scaled up to account for this change. 2*0%=0%? "Scaled up" stacking penalty? And no word on tracking enhancers. Tracking links are at least mentioned elsewhere... Lots, and I mean _lots_ of missing information or major changes from SiSi. I doubt the below is a comprehensive list, but those came to mind immediately: - Triage duration. - Titan HP change. - Projectile ammunition change. - Typhoon turret/launcher change. - Typhoon and Tempest shield/armor hp switch. - Moros drone bonus change. - Capital weapons changes aren't even mentioned, except for the addition of the capital cruise launcher. - Artillery alpha changes. I have to say that this is a pretty poor showing from the teams in question. -- Gradient forum
Denise Bloch	Posted - 2009.11.29 08:22:00 - [40] I have another question semi related to the patch note concerning courier contract limits. Previously you were not allowed to create a courier for more than 120,000m3, while as a freighter pilot I applaud this change I believe this is a design flaw that is opened. Currently I cannot place a rigged battleship in my cargohold as it is still assembled. However, if I use an alt to create a courier for this rigged battleship I can put this in my cargohold and transport it. Up until now this has only been a concern with smaller ships (120,000m3 or smaller), but with the new patch this won't be an issue anymore, ships of any size can be contracted. So why still have the limitation of not allowing rigged (assembled) ships to be placed in the cargohold? As I pointed out in a different thread earlier, either moving ships should be allowed, in which case it needs a fix (hint hint, not to late to sneak one in). Or you do not want us moving rigged ships, in which case courier contracts should get fixed to not allow them before the patch.
Leandro Salazar Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.11.29 08:38:00 - [41] Could someone (preferably a dev) clarify whether the Moros will stay as is, or whether it will still get neutered (Drone bonus reduced/only applicable in siege mode or whatever) and the info about it is just not in the patch notes? My finger has been hovering over that self destruct button way too long already... Also would be nice if we could get some solid details about all the projectile changes... And if you are reading this, you have arrived at the signature without noticing...
Praetor Novak Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.11.29 08:41:00 - [42] AFT I'm most excited by this: "Typo fix in the description for "Captain Kali Midez""
Beldurnik	Posted - 2009.11.29 08:50:00 - [43] Great update. However, I hope one day will translate to Spanish EVE, is the third most spoken language in the world.
cBOLTSON Caldari Point of No Return Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2009.11.29 08:51:00 - [44] Thankyou for the patch notes ccp. I am still a tiny bit concerned about dominion but I look forwards to it all the same. Especially the new planet graphics this made me very happy! -> "# The jukebox now uses MP3 format for its music. Additionally, custom playlists may be specified. # MP3 based Jukebox now supports custom play-lists in .m3u / .pls / .ram / .pink format. # Jukebox supports folder loading." Also it seems a few things are missing from the patch notes...... can you clarify? thanks again.
Spicypixel Caldari Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.11.29 08:58:00 - [45] Edited by: Spicypixel on 29/11/2009 09:02:25 Just to reiterate, "Ballistic Control Units now correctly apply their bonuses to missile damage." Clarification please.
Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2009.11.29 08:59:00 - [46] "Ballistic Control Units now correctly apply their bonuses to missile damage." Can this be explained? Are missiles now doing less damage or more damage? Was this a problem on all setups that used that module? This whole using dev blogs in patch notes and on feature pages is a very bad idea. It looks very unprofessional, provides outdated info and makes it harder to get the info you want. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
Windryder	Posted - 2009.11.29 09:04:00 - [47] WTF? Covert Ops ships have had their attributes fixed so that they now correctly reduce the flight time of survey probes by 10% per covert ops skill level. The description of Covert Ops ships has also been updated to reflect this. I beg your effing pardon? If I read this correctly it means covert-ops frigates have lost their SCAN STRENGTH bonus and instead have a reduced flight time for survey (i.e. MOON) probes. We may as well use cyno-recons and stealth bombers for our probing now - which suits because they carry a lot more firepower. If this is right, and they've lost their scan strength bonus, then you've effectively destroyed their "ecological niche". Bad idea guys, bad idea.
cBOLTSON Caldari Point of No Return Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2009.11.29 09:09:00 - [48] Originally by: Beldurnik Great update. However, I hope one day will translate to Spanish EVE, is the third most spoken language in the world. Hey Beldurnik - As far as im aware, you can have the game translated into spanish.... To do this, just log in as you would normally , then go to the options screen once your 'actually in-game' then go accross to the tab at the top that says 'languages' then change to spanish. If I got you wrong mate and you meant you wanted the patch notes in spanish, then sorry lol =] Hope this helped.
Kateryne Minmatar Nisaba Syndicate New Eden Retail Federation	Posted - 2009.11.29 09:20:00 - [49] Originally by: Pottsey "Ballistic Control Units now correctly apply their bonuses to missile damage." Can this be explained? Are missiles now doing less damage or more damage? Was this a problem on all setups that used that module? This whole using dev blogs in patch notes and on feature pages is a very bad idea. It looks very unprofessional, provides outdated info and makes it harder to get the info you want. ^ This. It's fairly important to know seeing as previous statistics have suggested caldari mission running characters make up a good 40% of those ingame, and thus this would be a fairly widespread nerf/buff depending on which way it goes.
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2009.11.29 09:45:00 - [50] Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 29/11/2009 09:45:14 Originally by: Kateryne Originally by: Pottsey "Ballistic Control Units now correctly apply their bonuses to missile damage." Can this be explained? Are missiles now doing less damage or more damage? Was this a problem on all setups that used that module? This whole using dev blogs in patch notes and on feature pages is a very bad idea. It looks very unprofessional, provides outdated info and makes it harder to get the info you want. ^ This. It's fairly important to know seeing as previous statistics have suggested caldari mission running characters make up a good 40% of those ingame, and thus this would be a fairly widespread nerf/buff depending on which way it goes. No change what-so-ever in damage, it's just that checking the missile (ammo) information on a ship with a BCS fitted now shows the correct increase in damage for the missile rather than just the unmodified info.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2009.11.29 09:47:00 - [51] Quote: It is now impossible for players to never have access to agents. Level 1 agents, up to Quality 0, will be available to all players regardless of their faction, corporation, or personal standing with the agent. Yay for dumbing down Eve even more. Talk about doing things in which without caring about any consequences - because there are no consequences any more. Quote: Voice fonts have been added to chat channels What?!!
Kerfira	Posted - 2009.11.29 09:55:00 - [52] Originally by: Gnulpie Quote: It is now impossible for players to never have access to agents. Level 1 agents, up to Quality 0, will be available to all players regardless of their faction, corporation, or personal standing with the agent. Yay for dumbing down Eve even more. Talk about doing things in which without caring about any consequences - because there are no consequences any more. Try grinding from -8.0 to 0.0 using only L1 agents There are still consequences, just not permanent ones! TBH, this change (or something like it) was long overdue. For game universe immersion reasons it might make sense to have permanent penalties like the standings lockout today, but from a RL game perspective it doesn't make sense to lock players out of content. Especially since most players ruin their pirate (and other) standings early before they really have a chance of finding out they really didn't want to do that! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Grrrrrrrre	Posted - 2009.11.29 10:42:00 - [53] erm. did i miss the EHP boost part of the patch note's or is it not here. i've scanned 4 times and can't find it where i think it should be.
Nina Treml	Posted - 2009.11.29 10:45:00 - [54] Edited by: Nina Treml on 29/11/2009 10:45:46 << Camera Field of View (FOV) has been changed. >> How?
Tappits Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.11.29 11:30:00 - [55] Edited by: Tappits on 29/11/2009 11:30:36 Originally by: Nina Treml Edited by: Nina Treml on 29/11/2009 10:45:46 << Camera Field of View (FOV) has been changed. >> How? 1st person now insted of 3rd person :) i have not found anything in this patch i like/will use tbo :( ---------------------------------------------- I fail At forums ٩๏̯͡๏)۶
Mashie Saldana BFG Tech	Posted - 2009.11.29 11:39:00 - [56] Originally by: Nina Treml Edited by: Nina Treml on 29/11/2009 10:45:46 << Camera Field of View (FOV) has been changed. >> How? Planets/moons will be less egg shaped now.
rubico1337 Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises	Posted - 2009.11.29 11:44:00 - [57] Originally by: Caiman Graystock the ships have been changed, slot layout, powergrid, cpu, etc... therefore current fits will most likely be broken, so everything fitted to them will be removed and you will have to refit your stuff after the patch. i see tons and tons of stuck petitions from wormhole dwellers after the patch
Nika Dekaia	Posted - 2009.11.29 11:46:00 - [58] Patch notes are full of win and fixes. Love it. The link to CCP Caedmons blog about the new EVEmail system seems to be missing in the patch notes. All the best for the deploment on tuesday.
Ishina Fel Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2009.11.29 11:46:00 - [59] Originally by: Mashie Saldana Planets/moons will be less egg shaped now. Awesome! Now if they also add antialiasing, EVE's graphics will be perfect My favorite line from the notes: "The user interface is now flatter and squarer." Signature? What signature?
Welktickler	Posted - 2009.11.29 11:46:00 - [60] Patch note are looking. Good. Just one question. Why are you changing skill requirements? IMO (not necessary correct but what's life without opinions?!) this is reducing the pay for the reward on most cases therefore reducing players commitment.

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