I mean, Jade's tinfoil has nothing on yours.

Yours drives the prices of aluminum up every time you need a new one.

1/10

Well, it was either that or make fun of your one-man vanity corp, but even that seems a little low for me.

You mean making fun of what almost everyone in hisec who post on forums does?

Yeah, 1/10 was better than that, which would have been -1/10.

Making fun of something that takes five minutes of skilling and **** money to make is not even taking candy from children, its taking it from the floor when the child drops it on purpose.

If you were in game before CONCORD existed, well, I don't think you would see any merit in it whatsoever.

I wasn't, so whatever.

I do play long enough to know the wardec was broken. It was fixed, with a few kinks to iron left, and now its going to be broken again.

That I care about.

How, exactly, is it 'broken'? You could argue that it's a bit unfair, or places too much support in favor of the aggressor, or that the cost of allies is too high, or the cost of wardecs too low, or that it should take into account the difference in members... but none of those things make it broken in the same way that dec scraping or dec shielding did.

Let's compromise--you can have as many defensive wardecs as you want as long as I don't have to read about each one in eve-mail.

That's great that you don't accept facts, but it doesn't really change them. Seriously, try it with gravity, tell me how that works out.

You can't say it's a fact that these changes actually help the mercenary market, because it's too early to tell - the changes haven't been implemented yet.

You can't say it's a fact that these changes actually help the mercenary market, because it's too early to tell - the changes haven't been implemented yet.

Well inferno was supposed to help the mercenary market, and ... well we saw how that turned out.

Exactly.

But even that limited tool, if tweaked, could have led to a better merc role. Now we will never know, because of the nerf essentially returning to pre-Inferno conditions. I even explained how to decshield even with the trillion stuff.

Well, all the amazing whining over the changes are great and all, but it was fun to be able to find highsec as a target-rich environment of people that can't leave the war without disbanding their corp/alliance.

Can we go back to that? It would be really nice...

I thought you guys were about moon goo botting, "renting" sov, and ganking, no of which require war decs, and only one which applies to highsec. So I am curious...

I mean, its not like highsec is not a target rich environment already for your kind, isn't it?

It is now when some people have 35+, 45+ allies.

moon goo botting

I think there is merit to that, but that is besides the point.

I am not presenting a wish list. I am addressing a specific implementation of a specific feature.

Forcing a "mano a mano" in wardec robs mercs of business opportunities. That is diminishes fun.

Any real merc wants a fight, even if they lose.

And that is what being lost in the whole meta drama that amuses but its irrelevant to the average dues paying player. Add playing opportunities, not diminish them.

Any real merc would go find fights in low sec or null where they dont have to pay for a dec

how does this work?

Having to pay trillions of isk to get epicness in wars is breaking that. All it promotes is defensive carebearing - sitting in stations why your alts do the work elsewhere. It denies fun to the attacker, and it denies fun to the defender. It makes for a boring game.

linear wardec fee with a cap, but then have a logarithmic merc hiring fee with no cap.



yep

It's not boring for the defender because whilst one character is indeed docked in a station their other character is out mining or running missions or what ever it is that they like to do. You fail to understand that other players have different play styles and what one person calls fun makes another person feel like logging off.

Any real merc would go find fights in low sec or null where they dont have to pay for a dec

A real sandbox wouldn't have a designated "safe" area

check and mate

It will be bad because it limits demand. Its simple economics.

If 10 companies are servicing a client, and cannot offer their services, then 10 companies can prop up to replace them. The companies with better services can charge more, the ones with ****** services less.

Looking through some of your later posts, I don't think we're on opposite sides here. I'm all in favour of the mercenary profession being a viable career, but I just don't think a healthy career option is going to come about via this kind of protectionism. If it does, I think people are not going to value mercenaries. They'll be seen as the group who had so little to offer clients that they couldn't compete with random strangers. I don't see clients wanting to pay mercs much if that's how they'd be viewed.

That's only true if mercenaries have nothing more to offer than what can be supplied by a bunch of random strangers who want in on a wardec. Even simpler economics states that if you have a crap product that can be supplied by anyone, it's going to be a hard sell.

Well, I think selling rights to camp the jita undock and kill wartargets' haulers and such should bring in more than -1 isk (you pay for "help").

You can then use this (1isk cost) "service" to prevent them from undocking in various market hubs, as long as they don't remember to use NPC corp alts or altcorps etc etc.

That is what people don't get. Inferno professionalized war in hisec. And one of the ways it did so is going to be nerfed.

If you wanted to limit alliances, one way to do it is to have the amount of allies affect the ability to permawar.

One on one, can permawar for free. Bring one ally, and a 500 million payment after two weeks resolves the matter. Have two allies, its 400 million. Have 5 and its free.