Indeed. But this isn't about what I can or cannot do, but about the balance of the wardec system.

Just because I can't be bothered to type out a fresh reply, here's one I made earlier.


Perhaps you haven't been around very long, or perhaps you don't frequent many other parts of the forum than GD, but you are terribly mistaken. There are certainly members of GS that behave less than prudently on the forums, but that is not to say that all of them behave in such a fashion.

If you had bothered to do even the tiniest bit of research you would realise that, for the most part, the GS have made invaluable contributions to this game. Granted there have been some rather major and well publicised negative events involving GS members, but that should in no way over shadow the positive aspects of having GS around.

Back in 2004-right through until the arrival of GS we were lumbered with an Alliance that was of the same relative size and power as GS, but who did little to bring about changes that would be of benefit to the masses. GS have, to the annoyance of some, brought about some very good changes to the game, prominent amongst those being the nerfing of Titans, and more recently their requests for Technetium to be redistributed more fairly.

The majority of people crying on these forums are not members of GS, but rather those who have little to no understanding of GS, nor of their intentions, even though these intentions should be clear to most by now. Most of the GS members I see "crying" on the forums are actually being ironic, sarcastic or just plain in your face trolling, the laughable thing is that people seem to believe that they really are crying.

What is actually happening is that people like you are jumping on the "hate them cos they're bigger than us, wah wah wah" bandwagon, while taking absolutely no time or effort to take a look at things for yourselves. I suggest you go and educate yourself on the "facts" lest you appear more foolish than you already do.

Balance is achieved when you're on the right side of the blob? Is that why the defender having allies brings forth butthurt?

balance

Its about the possibilities of the sandbox. Essentially a trillion isk to mount a massive battle ground means banning massive battles in highsec.

Where exactly are you getting this figure of "a trillion isk".
It costs 10M + 10M*n^2 per ally.
Which means you could bring on the 9000 pilot "Anti-Goonswarm Alliance" as an ally for 20M isk a week, or whatever.

So what 'possibilities' are being restricted?

How much would that 10+10M*n^2 work out for 100 90 pilot "Anti-Goonswarm Alliances?" Or do you mean little guys should dock up?

Where exactly are you getting this figure of "a trillion isk".
It costs 10M + 10M*n^2 per ally.
Which means you could bring on the 9000 pilot "Anti-Goonswarm Alliance" as an ally for 20M isk a week, or whatever.

So what 'possibilities' are being restricted?

Lots, so they should merge up if they're serious about their anti-Goon goal and not just indiscriminately looking for cost-effective workarounds to wardecs.

How much would that 10+10M*n^2 work out for 100 90 pilot "Anti-Goonswarm Alliances?" Or do you mean little guys should dock up?

That is exactly what he means.

Yeah of course. I take all this time making a coherent argument that explicitly places itself outside of the Dramabelisk, but I am part of the collective carebear butthurt and the tinfoil hat set.

Yeah...

also, a real sandbox would be all about removing CONCORD
anything else is a compromise

The butthurt over Jita-camp is strong in this one.

Yeah of course. I take all this time making a coherent argument that explicitly places itself outside of the Dramabelisk, but I am part of the collective carebear butthurt and the tinfoil hat set.

Yeah...

Yeah of course. I take all this time making a coherent argument that explicitly places itself outside of the Dramabelisk, but I am part of the collective carebear butthurt and the tinfoil hat set.

also, a real sandbox would be all about removing CONCORD
anything else is a compromise

Since we're discussing the wardec thing, I thought the "butthurt" was from the goons, not carebears?

also, a real sandbox would be all about removing CONCORD
anything else is a compromise

stuffs

oh no jita decbears are preventing us from doing things

*logs in neutral alt*

No idea. As I pointed out, goons in this thread have either only 2/10 trolled or been nice.


Wait. I see what you did here -.-

I'm actually not sure.

On second thought, were you talking about Jade Constantine's whining over the infinite allies for free forever nerf?

Balance is achieved when you're on the right side of the blob? Is that why the defender having allies brings forth butthurt?

Edit: Pyramid quoting removed - ISD Stensson

you still can, pay for it scrub

you still can, pay for it scrub

Translation?

3. I believe that (fiscally speaking) this is probably the most extreme nerf of anything in the history of Eve Online.