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Khali Fah
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Posted - 2009.12.22 04:27:00 -
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Hi, there is a guy gank my hauler in a high sec system. It costs me 50M loss, but i have a killright to kill his ship back. After i doing some recon with my alt, i found him do missioning in a high sec with a Kronos. My question is how do i kill him? Do i gank him when he undock from the station? or at stargate? or at mission site? Thanks.
Quote: [This is my Typhoon setup] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Large Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
100MN Afterburner II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5
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Tameris Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.22 04:33:00 -
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Your fit will work very well if you drop in on him in mission; especially if he has agro. Use your alt to find his mish, then when he has a lot of agro, in you go!
You'll want to get him when he's close to the warp in point or he may escape.
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Ekon Bor
Amarr Van Diemen's Demise
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Posted - 2009.12.22 04:34:00 -
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Leaving aside the fitting (about which I'm too drunk to comment), as a general rule, I'd go for the mission site. That way (once he's aggressed the npcs), their dps just adds to yours. One of the nicer ways of doing this is to just take away a mission runners active tank and watch the npc's slowly eat him... Curse is good for that.
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gpfault
Divine Retribution
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Posted - 2009.12.22 04:51:00 -
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Edited by: gpfault on 22/12/2009 04:51:56 With a pvp fit scorpion, capable of warp jamming and energy drain, death is certain.
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Lady Karma
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Posted - 2009.12.22 04:53:00 -
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That would do the job nicely. Ditch the armour rep for more resistance. If you think he can take you trimarked armour off before you kill him, then don't fight him. That set up is putting out horrible evil dps.
Fit 2 heavy neuts if you can, for range and things rather than medium.
If you are still a bit unsure, use an alt to ship scan him, and load torps for his weakest resist.
Dont go for him on undock, he will re dock as soon as he see's your neuts and torps face raping him, best is mission, or follow him to next system, and get him on jump in. If you are doing that then you want to fit the mwd to close into web range fast.
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Nisstyree
Chimera Raiders MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.12.22 05:26:00 -
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Drop the web for a racial jammer, marauders have ridiculously low sensor strengh and he will end up jammed very often. The phoon will still be faster than him even if he has an AB fit. Check if he has active tank modules running and simply adapt your damage type to being something that the rats in the mission are not using. Also fit neuts as many as you can fit and make sure you have at least one medium neut that you can permarun to keep his cap dead once he's capped out (PVE boats usually have cap recharge so you want to make sure to keep him down once his cap is dead). The rest should be a walk in the park... now I just gotta make sure I'm not the mark 
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.12.22 06:08:00 -
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As a dear friend of mine once told me.. If hes active tanking in a mission, jam him and neut him and the rats will do the rest.
Given the a Kronos is an armour tanker I'd say chances are hes going to be active tanking.
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Nishachara
Minmatar Special Operations Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.22 08:49:00 -
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I killed one with my phoon few days ago on anomaly in my wh... 
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=8879926
There was also a domi that shooted at me but unfortunately i could not coz i had to run at 10ish or so structure when kronos fell and domi was in armor ... Anyway i used my phoon i normaly use in gang (hence armor rr) Lows: 3x 1600 tungusten plate Damage control II Thermic hardener II Explosive hardener II Kinetic hardener II
Meds: Warp Disruptor 2x Medium cap booster 100NM Mwd
High: 4x Torpedo lanchers 2x Heavy Unstable power fluctuator 1x Medium Unstable Power fluctuator 1x Large I ax remote armor repairer (replace with a smartbomb or anything other you like :D)
The kronos should go down pretty easily once you newt him (unles somebody is rr-ing him then is a little harder :P )... Good luck in killing him 
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panda name
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Posted - 2009.12.22 09:45:00 -
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try shooting him and stuff
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Lubomir Penev
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2009.12.22 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Khali Fah Hi, there is a guy gank my hauler in a high sec system. It costs me 50M loss, but i have a killright to kill his ship back. After i doing some recon with my alt, i found him do missioning in a high sec with a Kronos. My question is how do i kill him? Do i gank him when he undock from the station? or at stargate? or at mission site? Thanks.
Best is to probe his mission, and use ECM drones, Marauders have very low sensor strength but can dish out more pain than you can tank. Neut and ECM is key to fast and efficient marauder takedown. -- 081014 : emoragequit, char transfered to a friend, 090317 : back to original owner blog |

Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.22 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lubomir Penev
Originally by: Khali Fah Hi, there is a guy gank my hauler in a high sec system. It costs me 50M loss, but i have a killright to kill his ship back. After i doing some recon with my alt, i found him do missioning in a high sec with a Kronos. My question is how do i kill him? Do i gank him when he undock from the station? or at stargate? or at mission site? Thanks.
Best is to probe his mission, and use ECM drones, Marauders have very low sensor strength but can dish out more pain than you can tank. Neut and ECM is key to fast and efficient marauder takedown.
I agree on ECM drones. A set of EC-600 can more or less perma jam him. use bigger like EC-900 for better effect. Tho, its an agrument that with good drone skills a set of 5 T2 Heavys is better for over all killing him.
Then neut him, and watch as his tank fails to even the rats in there. Add your own dps of course! :).
You Phoon looks good for this, personally I'd fit it spesific hardeners since you know what he got for damage, I'd try and add two heavy neuts as well, and a large cap booster so you can neut him well (key to kill his active tank). --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Lady Aja
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.22 16:04:00 -
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If this guy does not mission in gallante sapce look me up ingame.... I will find him for ya. might take me a mission maybe two but i KNOW i can probe his ass down.
contact me ingame..
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Nathan Harrow
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2009.12.22 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Khali Fah Hi, there is a guy gank my hauler in a high sec system. It costs me 50M loss, but i have a killright to kill his ship back. After i doing some recon with my alt, i found him do missioning in a high sec with a Kronos. My question is how do i kill him? Do i gank him when he undock from the station? or at stargate? or at mission site? Thanks.
Quote: [This is my Typhoon setup] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Large Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
100MN Afterburner II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5
I would get in a ship with weapons on it and shoot him till he explodes. -------------------------
Quote: You know what the chain of command is? Its a chain i go get and beat you with till you understand whose in ruttin' command here...
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.12.22 16:27:00 -
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I demand FRAPS of this blessed event.
Also, kronos is therm/kin damage. Pay attention to the wrecks around him and the drones he's using.
Tank for his damage, and pick the best drones/missiles to work against his tank. i.e. don't use inferno torps against someone tanking serpentis mission rats.
Active tank has hardly any EHP, so using EXP against a runner with therm/kin hardeners = dead fast.
Also: Honour can kiss your ass, he suicided you. I'd say ransom him for a cool bill or so and pop him on top of it.
p.s. - there better be a frackin FRAPS ♥
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Deathvoucher
Easy Co.
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Posted - 2009.12.22 20:58:00 -
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i am a fan of ecm, but since your going up against an active tank, neut his ass
but please for the love of god, FRAPS!!!!
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2009.12.22 22:15:00 -
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Two words: Neut blackbird.
You know you want that killmail. You know it.
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TimMc
Gallente Extradition
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Posted - 2009.12.22 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku Two words: Neut blackbird.
You know you want that killmail. You know it.
lol :S I would go with this. If you die he won't take you seriously anyway and you can try again with your phoon.
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Lucia Wilber
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2009.12.23 02:20:00 -
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It's pretty simple in terms of his DPS.
If he's using blasters, he probably has an AB fitted and has crap range. Make sure you can tank his drones, then just web, neut, point, and slowly chew him up.
If he's using rails, which he may be given a PvE scenario, get into a smaller, faster ship (Curse is good, though neut Legion is superior), orbit him close and neut/DPS.
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Vespoi Filar
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Posted - 2009.12.23 05:10:00 -
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Post your alt outside his mish running station. Alt's ship should be fit with probes, passive targetter, and cargo scanner. When he undocks passive target and scan his ship. Now you know his setup. Have your alt also run a scan with probes. Now you know his ship Signature ID until the next DT.
Hit him with many many neuts and ECM Gravimetric while he is in a mish and watch him explode.
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Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2009.12.23 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Vespoi Filar Post your alt outside his mish running station. Alt's ship should be fit with probes, passive targetter, and ship scanner. When he undocks passive target and scan his ship. Now you know his setup. Have your alt also run a scan with probes. Now you know his ship Signature ID until the next DT.
Hit him with many many neuts and ECM Magnetometric while he is in a mish and watch him explode.
FTFY
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Tierie
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2009.12.23 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Nathan Harrow
Originally by: Khali Fah Hi, there is a guy gank my hauler in a high sec system. It costs me 50M loss, but i have a killright to kill his ship back. After i doing some recon with my alt, i found him do missioning in a high sec with a Kronos. My question is how do i kill him? Do i gank him when he undock from the station? or at stargate? or at mission site? Thanks.
Quote: [This is my Typhoon setup] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Large Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II
100MN Afterburner II Warp Disruptor II Stasis Webifier II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo 'Arbalest' Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Inferno Torpedo Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Ogre II x5 Warrior II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5
I would get in a ship with weapons on it and shoot him till he explodes.
ladies and gentlemen, nate harrow. PVP corp director.
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MoeJoe Green
Gallente The Black Legionnares Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.23 10:54:00 -
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Btw... Fit Kin/Therm hardeners.
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Sandbag McGraw
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Posted - 2009.12.23 11:35:00 -
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Mail me ingame if you need help probing out his mission. I'll bring logistics if need be. 
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2009.12.23 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: SupaKudoRio on 23/12/2009 13:20:47 Note: be sure to ransom him for approximately 2bil when you start killing him. Be stubborn with negotiations. Minimum 1.1bil I would say. A desperate marauder pilot is ripe for exploitation. Though don't stop shooting at any point, apply them thumbscrews. 
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Lord Xanthoh
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Posted - 2009.12.23 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Vespoi Filar Post your alt outside his mish running station. Alt's ship should be fit with probes, passive targetter, and cargo scanner. When he undocks passive target and scan his ship. Now you know his setup. Have your alt also run a scan with probes. Now you know his ship Signature ID until the next DT.
Hit him with many many neuts and ECM Gravimetric while he is in a mish and watch him explode.
WOW This is such great advice you posted here. It's offering me new possible horizons on pvp combat. Thanks man! 
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Watson Desecond
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Posted - 2009.12.23 16:24:00 -
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I've been following this thread can I also ask you to fraps this 
I would try with a blackbird first, make sure you kill this drones first and just watch him die.
If you die so what, he will think you are a noob trying to get revenge.
Then just go back in your bs and neut him 
Ill give you 5mil if you fraps it and kill him in a bb 
Happy hunting buddy
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Alexei Chernobyl
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Posted - 2009.12.23 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: Alexei Chernobyl on 23/12/2009 19:28:06 +10m for the fraps'd Blackbird kill. 'Tis the season of giving, after all.
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Morvyn
Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2009.12.23 20:57:00 -
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Step 1: Probe his mission down.
Step 2: Fit your ship with 1-2 neuts (mission runners ALWAYS active tank), with a good balance of buffer / DPS (don't bother fitting a rep tbh, 2-3 1600 RT plates will give you more than enough HP to melt him).
Step 3: Warp in and kill him.
You definitely do not want to do it at a stargate or at a station - it makes it way too easy for him to just dock up or jump; doing it at a mission site is your best bet (or at an asteroid belt or planet or something assuming you can get him to go there).
If you have an alt that can fly a Falcon, you might want to use that as a probing ship - that way you can probe the mission down and then jam him (Marauders have crazy low sensor strength so they are really easy to jam). A set of large ECM drones will work well against a marauder too, if you can use them instead of Ogre's in your ship.
If the guy's smart he'll have the character that has kill rights on him on his address book so he can see when you log in; you should park your character in your combat ship in a system 1 jump away, log him off, log your alt in, probe down the mission site, then log in, jump and kill him.
Originally by: SkeDOOSH They are godless killing machines that put even grizzly bears to shame.
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Liang Nuren
The Lollypop Factory
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Posted - 2009.12.23 22:25:00 -
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I've got 20M if you fraps solo killing him in a blackbird and post the link here (evemail me so I don't forget).
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org |

lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2009.12.23 23:49:00 -
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Chucking another 10mil to the pot if you fraps killing his marauder in a blackbird.
Actually, 10mil even if you don't kill it and go back in your phoon (make sure you fraps everything) 
protip: His main damage type is kinetic/thermal from hybrids, and either thermal drones or mission specific damage ones. If he's using rails with no webs, get close and orbit Check out what mission is doing and fit accordingly.
Originally by: salva dore Cloak should not be AFK solution. What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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