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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.11.16 14:54:00 -
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While there are many things in EVE I wish it had most of them fall fully in the feature-request category. The list I have here however is a list of things that, well, basically make me think Im paying to play an incomplete beta with some critical mechanisims not worked out:
1. Collision logic & obstacle avoidance. Do I need to explain why (a) crashing into things I havnt actually hit, and (b) getting "stuck" in cluttered spaces just dont feel like this part of the game is done yet?
2. Insta Jumps. Clearly in a finished game insta bm jumps would not be possible. I dont care how its done but every day I log on is a day I log on praying to hear that there is some way I can delete 90% of my BMs because they are no longer needed (or functional).
Various other low grade irritations:
3. The fact that all incomming gunfire hits a ship on the exact same point - usuall the tip of the nose. Why cant shots be spread around a ship a bit, and/or, when they miss, actually miss???
4. Engine trails that pass through bits of the ship. Ok - I can understand the difficulty of fixing this, more to the point - why do certain ship models have structure directly behind an engine exhaust so even in straight flight theres an intersection?
5. Usually if we do something at the wrong time, a subtle warning message indicates why the action cannot be completed. However, when attempting to target, we get a modal dialog that must be closed!
6. Being an explorer I go looking for stuff. When I find derelict ships and stuff, instead of "Derelict Station" I get what appears to be DB code names. Finding an "as_military1" makes it look like someone started creating derelict sites, but gave up before naming anything.
But really, back to the big 2. When are we going to get past this insta BM colliding madness and actually release EVE v1. Nevermind these Castor and Shiva expansion packs?
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.11.16 14:54:00 -
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While there are many things in EVE I wish it had most of them fall fully in the feature-request category. The list I have here however is a list of things that, well, basically make me think Im paying to play an incomplete beta with some critical mechanisims not worked out:
1. Collision logic & obstacle avoidance. Do I need to explain why (a) crashing into things I havnt actually hit, and (b) getting "stuck" in cluttered spaces just dont feel like this part of the game is done yet?
2. Insta Jumps. Clearly in a finished game insta bm jumps would not be possible. I dont care how its done but every day I log on is a day I log on praying to hear that there is some way I can delete 90% of my BMs because they are no longer needed (or functional).
Various other low grade irritations:
3. The fact that all incomming gunfire hits a ship on the exact same point - usuall the tip of the nose. Why cant shots be spread around a ship a bit, and/or, when they miss, actually miss???
4. Engine trails that pass through bits of the ship. Ok - I can understand the difficulty of fixing this, more to the point - why do certain ship models have structure directly behind an engine exhaust so even in straight flight theres an intersection?
5. Usually if we do something at the wrong time, a subtle warning message indicates why the action cannot be completed. However, when attempting to target, we get a modal dialog that must be closed!
6. Being an explorer I go looking for stuff. When I find derelict ships and stuff, instead of "Derelict Station" I get what appears to be DB code names. Finding an "as_military1" makes it look like someone started creating derelict sites, but gave up before naming anything.
But really, back to the big 2. When are we going to get past this insta BM colliding madness and actually release EVE v1. Nevermind these Castor and Shiva expansion packs?
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Necronomicon
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:33:00 -
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I know, why dont you write your own space game as it will obviously be l33t compared to teh flawed codez of CCP. Changing rules/mechanics of a game after it has been released is a damn sight better than it not being released at all. Everything has bugs, nothing can be perfect by definition that it is created by man, who is not perfect.
/emote installs sarcasm +3 implant
CCP, this man is a genius, immediately withdraw EVE, and finish it; I will be sitting by my PC waiting for the next year to log back in.
/emote removes sarcasm +3 implant
Starsi dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them. |
Necronomicon
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:33:00 -
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I know, why dont you write your own space game as it will obviously be l33t compared to teh flawed codez of CCP. Changing rules/mechanics of a game after it has been released is a damn sight better than it not being released at all. Everything has bugs, nothing can be perfect by definition that it is created by man, who is not perfect.
/emote installs sarcasm +3 implant
CCP, this man is a genius, immediately withdraw EVE, and finish it; I will be sitting by my PC waiting for the next year to log back in.
/emote removes sarcasm +3 implant
Starsi dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them. |
Pacman
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:36:00 -
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/emote hits DeFood on the head with a stick
bad DeFood
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Pacman
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:36:00 -
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/emote hits DeFood on the head with a stick
bad DeFood
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:36:00 -
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Dammit why did you remove it? Do you realize how rare those implants are, I've never even heard of them, you'd make a fortune selling them 
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:36:00 -
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Dammit why did you remove it? Do you realize how rare those implants are, I've never even heard of them, you'd make a fortune selling them
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Badshah
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:37:00 -
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DeFood, could you please give me a run-down on the whole, InstaJumps thing? I do not know what you are talking about, why it is a bad thing and what you want done about it. Please start by telling me what an Instajump is.
Just me,
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Badshah
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:37:00 -
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DeFood, could you please give me a run-down on the whole, InstaJumps thing? I do not know what you are talking about, why it is a bad thing and what you want done about it. Please start by telling me what an Instajump is.
Just me,
Bad |
Necronomicon
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:38:00 -
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Edited by: Necronomicon on 16/11/2004 15:41:13
 Originally by: Scorpyn
Dammit why did you remove it? Do you realize how rare those implants are, I've never even heard of them, you'd make a fortune selling them
It was only a +3, I got a stack of +4s for people who deserve them; being sarcastic here is easy, but I must remove them during flight, or simple requests in system seem to get me podded somehow :P
EDIT : Seems someone else has found some of these implants as well 
Starsi dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them. |
Necronomicon
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:38:00 -
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Edited by: Necronomicon on 16/11/2004 15:41:13
Originally by: Scorpyn
Dammit why did you remove it? Do you realize how rare those implants are, I've never even heard of them, you'd make a fortune selling them
It was only a +3, I got a stack of +4s for people who deserve them; being sarcastic here is easy, but I must remove them during flight, or simple requests in system seem to get me podded somehow :P
EDIT : Seems someone else has found some of these implants as well
Starsi dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them. |
Hakera
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:39:00 -
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IJ are like jet can mining, never meant to be. Problem is everyone uses them now so its too late to remove them.
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |
Hakera
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:39:00 -
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IJ are like jet can mining, never meant to be. Problem is everyone uses them now so its too late to remove them.
Dumbledore - Eve-I.com |
DeFood
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:40:00 -
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Changing the rules and mechanics? This post isnt about rules and mechanics I disagree with. If it was Id be *****ing about mining. But, mining for all that I hate it, is in and it works the way its intended (no doubt) to worl. As regards these points I just want CCP to actually implement something. Anything really. There are just big holes in the design right now.
// TODO: Implement collision logic here.
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:40:00 -
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Changing the rules and mechanics? This post isnt about rules and mechanics I disagree with. If it was Id be *****ing about mining. But, mining for all that I hate it, is in and it works the way its intended (no doubt) to worl. As regards these points I just want CCP to actually implement something. Anything really. There are just big holes in the design right now.
// TODO: Implement collision logic here.
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Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera
IJ are like jet can mining, never meant to be. Problem is everyone uses them now so its too late to remove them.
imo this is one of the games largest flaws. It's never too late.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hakera
IJ are like jet can mining, never meant to be. Problem is everyone uses them now so its too late to remove them.
imo this is one of the games largest flaws. It's never too late.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Ghost Red
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:43:00 -
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FFS
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Misomusic! |
Ghost Red
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:43:00 -
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FFS
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Misomusic! |
Badshah
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:47:00 -
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Could someone take a moment to explain what an InstJump is? I hear this term quite often and I do not know what this is about.
Just me,
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Badshah
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:47:00 -
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Could someone take a moment to explain what an InstJump is? I hear this term quite often and I do not know what this is about.
Just me,
Bad |
Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:48:00 -
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IJ is a bookmark thats made so when you warp to the stargate you are already within jump range.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Aodha Khan
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:48:00 -
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IJ is a bookmark thats made so when you warp to the stargate you are already within jump range.
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. |
Badshah
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:49:00 -
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Thanks for explaining. That sounds really cool. I think I will go out and set up some at all my favorite stargates. Hope they don't 'fix' this.
Just me,
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Badshah
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:49:00 -
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Thanks for explaining. That sounds really cool. I think I will go out and set up some at all my favorite stargates. Hope they don't 'fix' this.
Just me,
Bad |
DeFood
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:50:00 -
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jetcan mining is the logical outcome of a. providing jetcans, b. giving the best mining ships teeny holds such that they cant even carry large cans, and c. havinga tutorial that demonstrates to rank newbies how to jettison and retrieve veldspar.
it looks to me that jetcan mining is completely intentional. by design. expected. etc.
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DeFood
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Posted - 2004.11.16 15:50:00 -
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jetcan mining is the logical outcome of a. providing jetcans, b. giving the best mining ships teeny holds such that they cant even carry large cans, and c. havinga tutorial that demonstrates to rank newbies how to jettison and retrieve veldspar.
it looks to me that jetcan mining is completely intentional. by design. expected. etc.
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.11.16 16:35:00 -
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What are you talking about ? This game has the best collision detection ever. In fact, it's so advanced that my ship actually applies emergency thrusters before I crash into the 10km wide asteroid - wow.
Ooh wait, are you saying you want to be able to crash your ship ?
WARNING - DO NOT INSURE THIS INDIVIDUAL
KNOWN SUICIDAL TENDANCIES
/error +4 sarcasm implant malfunction detected
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.11.16 16:35:00 -
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What are you talking about ? This game has the best collision detection ever. In fact, it's so advanced that my ship actually applies emergency thrusters before I crash into the 10km wide asteroid - wow.
Ooh wait, are you saying you want to be able to crash your ship ?
WARNING - DO NOT INSURE THIS INDIVIDUAL
KNOWN SUICIDAL TENDANCIES
/error +4 sarcasm implant malfunction detected
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