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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.07 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: Helicity Boson on 07/01/2010 21:48:26
Less than 24 hours into hulkageddon, and everything is surpassing my wildest expectations so far.
Over 300 exhumers have been destoyed by our glorious forces!!
I am also seeing this emergent gameplay CCP likes to talk about so much, I am seeing strangers meet new friends and making gangs, I am seeing newbies evolving into specialists (DPSer, hulk scout, warpin provider) I'm seeing people who have never met at all working together to provide intel and company.
Frankly. It's pretty freaking awesome.
The Hulkageddon Website has seen over 16 THOUSAND pageviews today as well.
If you are participating, remember to send me screenshots of smacktalk, videos and whatever else you think is cool via evemail!
I am gobsmacked! Keep up the good work!
Have this wonderful Lady Spank (tm) video as a reward!
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Snake Doctor
MacroIntel
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Posted - 2010.01.07 21:43:00 -
[2]
Edited by: Snake Doctor on 07/01/2010 21:43:47
haha! Way to go!
However, you must understand that 10,000 of those pageviews ARE FROM ME!
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Hallan Turrek
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.01.07 21:44:00 -
[3]
You have no idea how much I'd love to participate in this.
Damn it.
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Bartholomew Roberts
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Zetler
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2010.01.07 21:44:00 -
[4]
Nice!
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2010.01.07 21:47:00 -
[5]
 Originally by: Helicity Boson
I am also seeing this emergent gameplay CCP likes to talk about so much, I am seeing strangers meet new friends and making gangs,
Guaranteed Nerf Bat then
CCP talk the biggun about "emergant gameplay" but when it happens the rhetoric changes to "its our game" and "we have long term vision" whilst they nerf ya
SKUNK
(o)
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.07 21:54:00 -
[6]
I had imagined that it might take several days, perhaps the whole week, to reach the 300 mark - not less than 24 hours. Amazing. The amount of monetary damage done here is very impressive.
Go forth, minions. My prizes await.
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Snake Doctor
MacroIntel
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Posted - 2010.01.07 21:54:00 -
[7]
I have a feeling this will somehow incur the wrath of CCP and their nerfbat.Perhaps yet another buff to Concord.
Somehow.
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clamslayer
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:05:00 -
[8]
i am stoked that hulkageddon is more of a success than i thought it would be, that said im also bummed because i know a nerf is coming lol
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NukkePoksy
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:09:00 -
[9]
Boom goes the Hulk! 
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Ta'jek
Angels Of Death EVE
Free Worlds Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:12:00 -
[10]
wondering how many people are wishing they could change their guesses on final kill tally.
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Latrodanes
Independent Combat Support Services
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:12:00 -
[11]
I'm not sure there's much nerfing to fear. Perusing the killmails, I see a heck of a lot of these Hulks have empty mid-slots and I'm willing to bet not many of their pilots have invested in shield or armor tanking skills. Seems rather dim to be flying around that way in EvE, especially if they are AFK-ing. This operation sounds more like a New Eden-wide, live-fire training exercise.
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Shigsy
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:14:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Ta'jek
wondering how many people are wishing they could change their guesses on final kill tally.
All but one
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Lucas Lucias
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:23:00 -
[13]
Highly impressive result and team play and I say that as one of your targets, I estimated that you would get 300 in total, how wrong was I. And CCP please leave this sort of thing well alone, well maybe adjust it so we (the targets) can ECM a lock without being Concorded!!!! To be honest that has never made any sense to me... At least the miners can not be slagged off for hiding, well at least at this point, perhaps later they will.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:35:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Snake Doctor
I have a feeling this will somehow incur the wrath of CCP and their nerfbat.Perhaps yet another buff to Concord.
Somehow.
Bet they nerf insurance payout for concorddokken.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:38:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Snake Doctor
I have a feeling this will somehow incur the wrath of CCP and their nerfbat.Perhaps yet another buff to Concord.
Somehow.
Bet they nerf insurance payout for concorddokken.
I think they should. There you go, straight from the horse's mouth.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:44:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Snake Doctor
I have a feeling this will somehow incur the wrath of CCP and their nerfbat.Perhaps yet another buff to Concord.
Somehow.
Bet they nerf insurance payout for concorddokken.
I think they should. There you go, straight from the horse's mouth.
I hope they don't :P
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Jared D'Uroth
Minmatar
Universal Peace Operation
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:46:00 -
[17]
300 * 150 million = Conservative 45 billion in damage done.
This could be good for the market
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I think the point [of t3] was that your foes would never know how you were fit, adding the element of surprise.
Like, surprise!!! I decided to go with EHP and DPS.
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Ospie
Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:58:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Snake Doctor
I have a feeling this will somehow incur the wrath of CCP and their nerfbat.Perhaps yet another buff to Concord.
Somehow.
Bet they nerf insurance payout for concorddokken.
I think they should. There you go, straight from the horse's mouth.
I hope they don't :P
Won't stop dessie gangs anyway, huzzah!
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RyanSnake
Caldari
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.01.07 23:04:00 -
[19]
Helicity you are sounding like Tyler Durden. Frankly, that's awesome. :P
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2010.01.07 23:05:00 -
[20]
Bravo! Nicely done.
/me wishes he had a Hulk BPO.
Taxman VIII: Vlad in the 25th Century
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Vito Parabellum
Fivrelde Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.07 23:12:00 -
[21]
*spidersense*
Yea, insurance nerf incoming
*spidersense*
I can sense another one: outlaw inertia battleshipping around highsec
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.01.07 23:12:00 -
[22]
Edited by: Barakkus on 07/01/2010 23:13:35
Originally by: Ospie
Won't stop dessie gangs anyway, huzzah!
I personally like taking out a domi or something that I made with a crap ton of ore i have lying around and slapping on some smartbombs and orbiting one of the Jita entrance gates, see who I snag with a smartie for lulz when I need some extra cash :P it's about 50mil profit for me with a homemade domi :)
damn concord and their rules about pyramid quoting :(
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Gah'Matar
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Posted - 2010.01.07 23:17:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Lucas Lucias
Highly impressive result and team play and I say that as one of your targets, I estimated that you would get 300 in total, how wrong was I. And CCP please leave this sort of thing well alone, well maybe adjust it so we (the targets) can ECM a lock without being Concorded!!!! To be honest that has never made any sense to me... At least the miners can not be slagged off for hiding, well at least at this point, perhaps later they will.
I like this proposal. Give the miner a tool. ECM Burst I for the win. Eager to see SDA's on hulks.
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William Caldon
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.01.07 23:25:00 -
[24]
Hulks need more HP imo, they're tanks are pretty weak even fully tanked.
Good job to all though
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Spectre3353
Gallente
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.07 23:34:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
300 * 150 million = Conservative 45 billion in damage done.
This could be good for the market
The Griefwatch board says it's over 71 billion in damage so far but I'm not sure how accurate that is. That number doesn't include implants either and I know a good amount of miners have been podded.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
The Phantom Acolytes
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Posted - 2010.01.07 23:44:00 -
[26]
Edited by: Ran Khanon on 07/01/2010 23:44:39
oooh, Spank used mah picshur!
*is flattered*
Get it here: Hulky Tears
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.08 00:17:00 -
[27]
Helicity event = best event
c/d ?
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Elstine
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Posted - 2010.01.08 00:33:00 -
[28]
blah blah yada yada blah easy blob gank target blah yada blah 300 yay!!!
Of course, this much enthusiasm could be better spent popping any freighter in the amarr-jita pipe for more profit or perhaps chasing Goons out of delve. But guess picking on easy targets is great for sock fluffing oneself. Glad I stopped training for a hulk months ago on my main, cleaning up after you guys is kind of gross  .
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Stil Harkonnen
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Posted - 2010.01.08 00:41:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Elstine
blah blah yada yada blah easy blob gank target blah yada blah 300 yay!!!
Of course, this much enthusiasm could be better spent popping any freighter in the amarr-jita pipe for more profit or perhaps chasing Goons out of delve. But guess picking on easy targets is great for sock fluffing oneself. Glad I stopped training for a hulk months ago on my main, cleaning up after you guys is kind of gross .
u mad?
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Grimveous
Minmatar
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.08 00:55:00 -
[30]
Loving the event so far, tis mostly awesome fun. Plenty of DISCO!
8 Exhumers explode at the same time, in DISCOTECH!
I eat bunnies, ich esse hassen, karl tenderises the bunnies before i eat them |
Dr Lebroi
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Posted - 2010.01.08 00:56:00 -
[31]
I think this whole event is brilliant and why would CCP nerf it? Macro or AFK miners (whatever you want to call them) are bad for the game. They cheat real miners out of the friuts of their labours, de-value the economy by flooding it with cheap minerals and most importantly, they fuel Real Money Trading. These scams generate so much isk that no individual or even corporation could spend it within the game. These mountains of currency tempt people into RMT as there is no in-game usage for such vast wealth.
Hulkaggeddon is giving these low lives a bad time and I applaud that. Anyone else can just align and warp out when they see the bad guys coming. CCP suddenly has it's own force of anti-afk mining police who are now taking out the trash. I suspect that CCP realised that they could never remove these parasites from the game but now the real Eve players are doing it for them. Good luck to you all, you're making Eve a better place for everyone!
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Epegi Givo
Amarr
Araja clan
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Posted - 2010.01.08 01:07:00 -
[32]
Darwinism at its finest
After the first gank, he might think "Maybe just a random gank" After the second, he should be suspicious to whats going on. After the third one, then he is just plain stupid.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.01.08 01:11:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Epegi Givo
Darwinism at its finest
After the first gank, he might think "Maybe just a random gank" After the second, he should be suspicious to whats going on. After the third one, then he is just plain stupid.
Thankyou to Shien Mallak and TYKONDEROGA for driving the point home and podding him.. Perhaps after an almost 500M loss and a podding he will get the idea..
What happened to my AF boost? |
Cpt Jagermeister
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.08 01:26:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Grimveous
Loving the event so far, tis mostly awesome fun. Plenty of DISCO!
8 Exhumers explode at the same time, in DISCOTECH!
HAHHAHA yeah i saw that and almost **** a brick, nice one!!! GJ all!! Bring fear to their carebear hearts 
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Criss AngeI
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Posted - 2010.01.08 03:05:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Stil Harkonnen
Originally by: Elstine
blah blah yada yada blah easy blob gank target blah yada blah 300 yay!!!
Of course, this much enthusiasm could be better spent popping any freighter in the amarr-jita pipe for more profit or perhaps chasing Goons out of delve. But guess picking on easy targets is great for sock fluffing oneself. Glad I stopped training for a hulk months ago on my main, cleaning up after you guys is kind of gross .
u mad?
he mad?
Join the Aurelius federation now, join the channel "aurelius" or post in this thread here |
Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.08 03:58:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Criss AngeI
Originally by: Stil Harkonnen
Originally by: Elstine
blah blah yada yada blah easy blob gank target blah yada blah 300 yay!!!
Of course, this much enthusiasm could be better spent popping any freighter in the amarr-jita pipe for more profit or perhaps chasing Goons out of delve. But guess picking on easy targets is great for sock fluffing oneself. Glad I stopped training for a hulk months ago on my main, cleaning up after you guys is kind of gross .
u mad?
he mad?
He mad
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Elstine
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Posted - 2010.01.08 04:19:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Intense Thinker
u mad?
he mad?
He mad
BOOOO! GET OFF THE STAGE!
Whats next? "I flew in from Jita, boy are my arms tired!" 
Its almost like you all shake a magic 8 ball or pull it out of a hat for your limited repertoire of phrases.
I am going to cheer on the rest of Hulkageddon  . You have all shown me how hard it really is to pop the easiest Tech 2 ship tank without a great lost, almost like shooting an Ibis or Velator. Have fun carebearing your sec status up, you evil pirates you .
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.08 04:22:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Elstine
Originally by: Intense Thinker
u mad?
he mad?
He mad
BOOOO! GET OFF THE STAGE!
Whats next? "I flew in from Jita, boy are my arms tired!"
Its almost like you all shake a magic 8 ball or pull it out of a hat for your limited repertoire of phrases.
I am going to cheer on the rest of Hulkageddon . You have all shown me how hard it really is to pop the easiest Tech 2 ship tank without a great lost, almost like shooting an Ibis or Velator. Have fun carebearing your sec status up, you evil pirates you .
Magic Conch shell actually
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Cyprus Black
Caldari
Cowboy Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.01.08 04:25:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Elstine
Have fun carebearing your sec status up, you evil pirates you .
Not really worried about it. My alt can stay in low sec and continue his nefarious pirate ways.
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"In the land of predators, the lion does not fear the jackal."
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Ryan Starwing
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Posted - 2010.01.08 04:32:00 -
[40]
over 400 now
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Koronakesh
Amarr
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2010.01.08 04:46:00 -
[41]
Such beautiful madness. 
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Dracoknight
Strategic Syndicate
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.08 05:00:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Epegi Givo
Darwinism at its finest
After the first gank, he might think "Maybe just a random gank" After the second, he should be suspicious to whats going on. After the third one, then he is just plain stupid.
Thankyou to Shien Mallak and TYKONDEROGA for driving the point home and podding him.. Perhaps after an almost 500M loss and a podding he will get the idea..
Wouldnt bet on it Lana, my time in IEEE have taught me that some noobs never learn no matter how many times you explode their Drake/Badger/Merlin/Shuttle....
But Zedrik should follow this event for pilots or corps that have most losses and then put in a little investigation on them and see how many mining regulations they break.
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Oxylan
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Posted - 2010.01.08 10:14:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
300 * 150 million = Conservative 45 billion in damage done.
This could be good for the market
This could be good reason for writing a lot petition and emorage quit...
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Shade Millith
International House of PWNCakes
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Posted - 2010.01.08 10:19:00 -
[44]
Looks like it's just hit 500 exhumers/mining barges
444 exhumers - 56 barges
****'s lookin' good
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Dipluz
Caldari
PodPal
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Posted - 2010.01.08 10:30:00 -
[45]
funny note on this thing, theres only about 100 hulks left on market in Jita, and their at 210 something mill isk, I wonder how expensive a Hulk is gonna be in a day or two 
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Tzarus
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Posted - 2010.01.08 11:03:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Dipluz
funny note on this thing, theres only about 100 hulks left on market in Jita, and their at 210 something mill isk, I wonder how expensive a Hulk is gonna be in a day or two
Yeah, I also have noticed that..
I guess that covetors are gonna get the love they deserve..
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Millie Clode
Amarr
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.01.08 11:05:00 -
[47]
QUICK! One of you seriously rich ppl, buy all the hulks in jita/amarr/rens and stick them on the market at the good old 500M pricetag they had back in the day.
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Misticrevalation
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Posted - 2010.01.08 11:21:00 -
[48]
How are kills added to the hulkageddon KB?
Can't see a list of corps registered on the board (isn't adding the names needed?)
Gratz on the 300th kill. Is there going to perhaps be a special award to the 999th/1000th kill?
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.08 13:37:00 -
[49]
596 killcount, I'm about to **** brix.
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Loqiel
Caldari
Legio Fortunae
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Posted - 2010.01.08 15:37:00 -
[50]
This event warms my heart. Mad props Helicity. |
Borgh Brainbasher
Path of Now and Forever
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Posted - 2010.01.08 17:04:00 -
[51]
woow, you guys are nearing thr 500 exhumer kills, maarket must be ****ting bricks atm
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Miyuki Shirafune
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.01.08 17:11:00 -
[52]
Originally by: RyanSnake
Helicity you are sounding like Tyler Durden. Frankly, that's awesome. :P
I love reading Zero Hedge; somehow not surprised that other pod pilots are cerebral enough to enjoy his writing.
I didn't submit my Hulkageddon kill guess but before it started, I was thinking something like 400ish. It's amazing that it was surpassed midway through the 3rd day of the event.
And, I can second the "emergent gameplay" - I have met, fleeted, and spoken with players I never ordinarily would have interacted with and they're pretty cool people to chat with. Definitely not the "RL deviants" that the shrill cry of the carebear makes them out to be.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.08 17:16:00 -
[53]
Originally by: RyanSnake
Helicity you are sounding like Tyler Durden. Frankly, that's awesome. :P
Her NAME was Helicity Boson!
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Niclas Solo
Amarr
GANKsTers's inc.
R.E.P.O.
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Posted - 2010.01.08 17:27:00 -
[54]
Wow nice work, i did think around 300 in a week not in a day :) Wish i had an alt that could build hulks now :)
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.08 17:30:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: RyanSnake
Helicity you are sounding like Tyler Durden. Frankly, that's awesome. :P
Her NAME was Helicity Boson!
?
Her NAME was Helicity Boson!
I second the Fight Club reference.
PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2010.01.08 17:57:00 -
[56]
Quote:
Sorry, "Hulkageddon II" was deleted at 11:22:43 Fri Jan 8, 2010. We have no more information about it on our mainframe or elsewhere.
Put that video back up!
I'll have to send the itty bitty tears I got in local from my contribution to the party.
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Wreck Disposal Services |
Anton Halas
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Posted - 2010.01.08 18:12:00 -
[57]
Edited by: Anton Halas on 08/01/2010 18:12:41
If your really killing just macros GREAT.If your killing eve players then that is stupid.Are you bumping the hulks? Are you convo them to see if there macros?
Most of your kills wouldn't happen if the hulkers would tank the hulks.The fits on them are a joke.So the hulks that were lost with poor fittings to bad.Learn re fit.
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Zeredek
Gallente
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.08 18:21:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Helicity event = best event
c/d ?
c
Zeredek
Not a moderator
Originally by: Rolk Anderson
Words cannot describe the hatred I feel for you Zeredek.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.08 18:31:00 -
[59]
FIIIVE HUNDRED \o/
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2010.01.08 18:35:00 -
[60]
Helicity,
Will you be deleting the non-exhumers from the KB?
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Wreck Disposal Services |
Persephone Astrid
The Bastards
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Posted - 2010.01.08 18:35:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Persephone Astrid on 08/01/2010 18:49:38
Originally by: Hallan Turrek
You have no idea how much I'd love to participate in this.
Damn it.
Come back to us. You know you want to.
Edit: page 3! Woot!
Edit edit: Helicity is cute IRL, too, but not in the same way as his avatar. Not entirely, anyway. |
Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.08 18:59:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Helicity,
Will you be deleting the non-exhumers from the KB?
the barges can stay, ill deal with that frig and stuff later when i feel like it
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari
Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.08 20:15:00 -
[63]
The kill count hasn't moved in a while now...
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.01.08 20:24:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Magnus Nordir
The kill count hasn't moved in a while now...
It's Friday night. Contrary to popular belief, some of us do have lives, some even have friends in the Real WorldÖ and then some of us are stuck at work 
A Pirates Perspective
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.01.08 20:37:00 -
[65]
695 kills as of now. THis is ****ing awesome.
Originally by: Doc Robertson
...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Julius Burnem
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Posted - 2010.01.08 20:58:00 -
[66]
Any of the macro's popped in Latari yet ?
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.08 21:20:00 -
[67]
Incidentally, we are WELL over 110 billion in damages now.
...and that's with the killboard undervaluing each hulk by 40 mil or so...
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MotherFarker
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Posted - 2010.01.08 21:29:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Dacryphile
695 kills as of now. THis is ****ing awesome.
i hope you kill happy gankers saved some big piles of minerals. cause they are about to get really expensive. you did think of that, right? i did. the carebears are going to make back all that isk and more. thanks! |
Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.01.08 21:34:00 -
[69]
Originally by: MotherFarker
Originally by: Dacryphile
695 kills as of now. THis is ****ing awesome.
i hope you kill happy gankers saved some big piles of minerals. cause they are about to get really expensive. you did think of that, right? i did. the carebears are going to make back all that isk and more. thanks!
We'll just take the minerals out of the holds of the exhumers we kill
A Pirates Perspective
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari
Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.08 21:38:00 -
[70]
And, we have the 100th pod kill!
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Only those who surrender are lost |
Lexa Hellfury
Incura
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Posted - 2010.01.08 21:40:00 -
[71]
YOU ANIMALS! 
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2010.01.08 23:23:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Dacryphile
695 kills as of now. THis is ****ing awesome.
only 554 count.
Exhumers ;)
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Wreck Disposal Services |
Jhon Collish
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Posted - 2010.01.08 23:47:00 -
[73]
Hulkageddon II should have an underline as "the Unholy Rage player driven" or something like that
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Liz Laser
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 00:05:00 -
[74]
If I had a tumor I'd name it Helicity.
Just kidding, because I really *do* have a tumor, and of course, have named it Marla.
Good job on getting such participation Helicity.
It'll be interesting with so many more victims to see how well the decently tanked hulks did. Last Hulkageddon was laughable because of how poorly the victims were tanked.
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Dian'h Might
Minmatar
Cash and Cargo Liberators Incorporated
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Posted - 2010.01.09 00:50:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Liz Laser
It'll be interesting with so many more victims to see how well the decently tanked hulks did.
At least 2 hulks didn't get ganked today due to having a tank fit.
Me and a friend took some brutix's out looking for targets and passed over 2 hulks due to sufficient buffer tank, and another one due to the pilot paying attention and warping out as we locked him.
4th one had an unfortunate lack of attentiveness/tank however, and now resides on the hulkageddon killboard.
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Mroe Bree
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2010.01.09 06:11:00 -
[76]
Our ill fit bunch (4-5 destroyers, one light blaster equipped abaddon for gank #2) also failed on 2 hulks. I think we were all too drunk and tired to get into optimal.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.09 11:04:00 -
[77]
over 600 \o/
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Vossejongk
Caldari
Bendebeukers
Green Rhino
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Posted - 2010.01.09 11:28:00 -
[78]
Ive checked Heimatar market (which holds 2nd tradehub in the game Rens and theres almost none hulks for sale. Pre-dominion it were at least 100 minimum.
Ether they all sold out or no1 manufactures them anymore :P
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.01.09 11:29:00 -
[79]
Impressive kill counts so far, never imagined it would take off remotely this well
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Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space
Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2
WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.09 11:34:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Liz Laser
If I had a tumor I'd name it Helicity.
Just kidding, because I really *do* have a tumor, and of course, have named it Marla.
Good job on getting such participation Helicity.
It'll be interesting with so many more victims to see how well the decently tanked hulks did. Last Hulkageddon was laughable because of how poorly the victims were tanked.
If I ever caught genital warts I'd definitely name on of them Helicity
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Feilamya
Pelennor Swarm
THE KLINGONS
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Posted - 2010.01.09 12:12:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Latrodanes
I'm not sure there's much nerfing to fear. Perusing the killmails, I see a heck of a lot of these Hulks have empty mid-slots and I'm willing to bet not many of their pilots have invested in shield or armor tanking skills. Seems rather dim to be flying around that way in EvE, especially if they are AFK-ing. This operation sounds more like a New Eden-wide, live-fire training exercise.
Unfortunately, CCP eventually have to explain all their decisions to John Q Carebear, so you shouldn't expect them to do such complicated thinking before the nerf bat strikes...
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Hyveres
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.09 12:51:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Feilamya
Originally by: Latrodanes
I'm not sure there's much nerfing to fear. Perusing the killmails, I see a heck of a lot of these Hulks have empty mid-slots and I'm willing to bet not many of their pilots have invested in shield or armor tanking skills. Seems rather dim to be flying around that way in EvE, especially if they are AFK-ing. This operation sounds more like a New Eden-wide, live-fire training exercise.
Unfortunately, CCP eventually have to explain all their decisions to John Q Carebear, so you shouldn't expect them to do such complicated thinking before the nerf bat strikes...
Well all it takes to survive most attacks is a shield extender or 2 , some proper rigging and closing the resistance gaps with an invulnerability field.
"Subtlety is a thing for philosophy, not combat. If you're going to kill someone, you might as well kill them a whole lot."
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Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.09 14:56:00 -
[83]
[Hulk, Tanked]
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
27k EHP at all Level 5.
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Mynxee
Hellcats
HellFleet
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Posted - 2010.01.09 15:33:00 -
[84]
Brilliant work, Helicity! I love following your killboard and all the threads. A most energizing week for New Eden!
Bump It! | My Blog: Life in Low Sec |
Insa Rexion
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.01.09 15:53:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Jones Bones
[Hulk, Tanked]
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
27k EHP at all Level 5.
/waits for carebear to ask where the expanders are supposed to go
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.09 16:04:00 -
[86]
666 Dead Exhumers!
And yes persephone, I am indeed very cute =^_^=
I'm also the devil of new eden.
DESPAIR MINERS, DESPAIR!
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YARR Trustme
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Posted - 2010.01.09 16:10:00 -
[87]
Edited by: YARR Trustme on 09/01/2010 16:10:44
http://hulkageddon2.griefwatch.net/?p=pilot&pilot=Myrio
ok this guy is ret ard ed or he is helping someone to win the big prize
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2010.01.09 16:25:00 -
[88]
Progress update:
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Grimveous
Minmatar
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 16:29:00 -
[89]
Helicity Boson > Grimvious has completed: <b>BANHAMMER</b>
A winner is me
I eat bunnies, ich esse hassen, karl tenderises the bunnies before i eat them |
Grunanca
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.09 17:39:00 -
[90]
I hereby claim the 666th kill reward! http://hulkageddon2.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=942
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Grimveous
Minmatar
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 17:40:00 -
[91]
Nice one Grunanca, this 666th kill prize, bought to you by the united :)
I eat bunnies, ich esse hassen, karl tenderises the bunnies before i eat them |
Mist3r Evil
Caldari
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 17:40:00 -
[92]
too bad my client crapped itself on that last one, now grim is gonna steal my thunder
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Grunanca
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.09 17:44:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Grimveous
Nice one Grunanca, this 666th kill prize, bought to you by the united :)
Thank you
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.09 18:01:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Grunanca
I hereby claim the 666th kill reward! http://hulkageddon2.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=942
you got it \o/
690 now boys! GO GO GO! let's get 1000 before the event ends!
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El'Tar
Caldari
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.01.09 18:04:00 -
[95]
Have to reformat my pc and wont be back at eve until tomorrow, Genos will be lucky just to have No. 3 at this rate :(
Final agony and the united, stop what you're doing and go kill real ships for now!
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Mist3r Evil
Caldari
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 18:43:00 -
[96]
Originally by: El'Tar
Have to reformat my pc and wont be back at eve until tomorrow, Genos will be lucky just to have No. 3 at this rate :(
Final agony and the united, stop what you're doing and go kill real ships for now!
just getting started
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Grimveous
Minmatar
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 19:23:00 -
[97]
^That
I eat bunnies, ich esse hassen, karl tenderises the bunnies before i eat them |
Magnus Nordir
Caldari
Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.09 20:05:00 -
[98]
700!
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Only those who surrender are lost |
Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.09 20:06:00 -
[99]
700 \o/
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.09 21:21:00 -
[100]
Nowhere is safe. Missions, safespots, complexes, asteroid belts....we will kill you all. It doesn't matter what you're flying--we've killed everything from Navitas mining frigates to Orca industrial command ships. Most of all, we've killed Hulks.
Run and cry.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.01.09 21:28:00 -
[101]
awww I got number 699 
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.09 21:31:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Zill on 09/01/2010 21:33:33
Edited by: Zill on 09/01/2010 21:32:56
Edited by: Zill on 09/01/2010 21:32:38
Edited by: Zill on 09/01/2010 21:32:18
Get ready for the nerf bat bigtime, I cant wait to see Insurance go byby or pvp turned off all together in highsec. All down to you lot. Even Jihad was more fun than this mindless pac dog mentality that's goin on this idea. While I agree its fun for you lads, those guys who have no skills or ability to defend against you are having their playtime destroyed in whats a hard game as it stands. Still, as long as your having fun..
I had to give a guy some ships other day when one of your heroes killed a first timer in his hulk, he had it less than 15 mins after working for 4 months to afford it.
I cant wait to see what CCP to the game thanks to you glads. :)
edit Mara stop it!!! your frightening me man.....
/me starts to cry....
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.09 21:35:00 -
[103]
Hello Kitty Adventure Island is thataways --->
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Lee Dalton
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2010.01.09 21:38:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Zill
I had to give a guy some ships other day when one of your heroes killed a first timer in his hulk, he had it less than 15 mins after working for 4 months to afford it.
Don't fly what you arn't prepared to lose.
tbh, if you can afford a Hulk, you should know how to avoid losing it.
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You're only as good as your last fight. |
Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.01.09 21:40:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Zill
Get ready for the nerf bat bigtime, I cant wait to see Insurance go byby or pvp turned off all together in highsec. All down to you lot. Even Jihad was more fun than this mindless pac dog mentality that's goin on this idea. While I agree its fun for you lads, those guys who have no skills or ability to defend against you are having their playtime destroyed in whats a hard game as it stands. Still, as long as your having fun..
I had to give a guy some ships other day when one of your heroes killed a first timer in his hulk, he had it less than 15 mins after working for 4 months to afford it.
I cant wait to see what CCP to the game thanks to you glads. :)
edit Mara stop it!!! your frightening me man.....
/me starts to cry....
To quote a ccp dev, EVE is not meant to feel like a cold harsh universe, it is designed to BE a cold harsh universe.
Tell your friend not to break EVE's rule #1. Don't fly anything you can't afford to lose (especially during hulkageddon). As for you thinking you "had" to give a ship to your friend who didn't pay attention to rule #1, that is your own wrong thinking.
Originally by: Doc Robertson
...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.09 21:42:00 -
[106]
lol I'll trade Killboards with you anyday But I like a challenge, not killing defenseless miners.
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Omgah
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.09 22:12:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 09/01/2010 21:46:17
lol I'll trade Killboards with you anyday But I like a challenge, not killing defenseless miners.
"I had" to give him some ships because I didn't wanna see a young lad leave the game over something he didn't have a chance to defend against. I try an teach the newbes in scope all time how to mine in highsec but its an uphill battle. I treat every system I go into as if it was the outer ring. Dont care if it's Todaki or 4C-B7x
His fault for being asleep as the keyboard, suicide ganks are easy to avoid.
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SetrakDark
Caldari
DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.09 22:40:00 -
[108]
Way to go, guys. Looks like you just killed Eve.
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Clair Bear
Ursine Research and Production
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Posted - 2010.01.09 22:44:00 -
[109]
And you know what the best part is?
CONCORD will be gone from ice belts. Time to get out there and gank some more! Too bad I just clone jumped 53 jumps into 0.0 a few minutes before the crash. :(
And in summary, bigger blobs are the answer. Now what was the question? |
Stop Posting
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Posted - 2010.01.09 22:52:00 -
[110]
Originally by: SetrakDark
Way to go, guys. Looks like you just killed Eve.
Stop posting.
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Jamieson's Heir
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Posted - 2010.01.09 22:55:00 -
[111]
well, isn't the whole purpose of Hi Sec to actually be one?
Suicide gank is an exploit and as such should be punished imho.
If it wasn't for the buddies in that wolf pack picking up pieces after their bud had been Concorded, there'd be no economical merit to do it.
Hence it'd be for grief alone. Wait.. unless you are in it for grief alone. heh have fun, as if there's nothing else to do in EVE than to pop defenseless miners :D
P.S.: smart people, when they get bored, get out more. Just a thought.
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Starchy Jeanus
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Posted - 2010.01.09 23:10:00 -
[112]
....and "boom" goes the dynamite... |
Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.09 23:11:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Jamieson's Heir
well, isn't the whole purpose of Hi Sec to actually be one?
Suicide gank is an exploit and as such should be punished imho.
If it wasn't for the buddies in that wolf pack picking up pieces after their bud had been Concorded, there'd be no economical merit to do it.
Hence it'd be for grief alone. Wait.. unless you are in it for grief alone. heh have fun, as if there's nothing else to do in EVE than to pop defenseless miners :D
P.S.: smart people, when they get bored, get out more. Just a thought.
u mad?
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.09 23:14:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Jamieson's Heir
well, isn't the whole purpose of Hi Sec to actually be one?
Suicide gank is an exploit and as such should be punished imho.
If it wasn't for the buddies in that wolf pack picking up pieces after their bud had been Concorded, there'd be no economical merit to do it.
Hence it'd be for grief alone. Wait.. unless you are in it for grief alone. heh have fun, as if there's nothing else to do in EVE than to pop defenseless miners :D
P.S.: smart people, when they get bored, get out more. Just a thought.
Huh? Sorry, back from my mensa meeting. Now to gank some Hulks!!!!
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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JaseNZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.10 01:39:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Jamieson's Heir
Suicide gank is an exploit and as such should be punished imho.
Umm, if it was, it wouldn't be allowed, but it is allowed, therefore it's a game mechanic.
You shoot someone you aren't meant to, Concord pwn your ship, that's how it goes.
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El'Tar
Caldari
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.01.10 02:04:00 -
[116]
I hope you guys realize that if you nerfed insurance, it will hurt miners a LOT more than suicide gankers
The ONLY thing keeping minerals at an acceptable level right now is insurance, minerals is already severely underpriced as it's very profitable just to suicide some battleships and make some isk out of it, two guys on the MD forums self destructed around 3 TRILLION worth of battleships and the trit market didn't move at all
What does this mean? Well it means that there's a **** tone more of minerals on the market than what's actually needed, resulting mining being by far the worst possible profession there is in isk/hour wise, the only way to make a lot of isk from it is to 15 box a lot of hulks and a rorqual or something in 0.0, a highsec hulk mines around 6m worth an hour, and that doesn't take into consideration of the logistical issues afterwards, which is so bad
Why is mining so crap?
Well, 40% of all minerals comes from mission running, the reason for this is because lvl 4 missions is SO much better than mining, most mission runners makes atleast 5x the amount of isk, and at far less risk too, you can actually afford to mission run while afk, and because of this every day many miners stop mining and just start to run missions and reprocess their loot, each mission runner creates a lot less minerals than the average miner, but just the sheer amount of mission runners make up for this
If you nerfed suicide ganking, mining will even become a worse profession for the "real" miners, the miners that fit their ships properly, the miners that don't mine afk/macro, the miners that know what local and the scanner is, the miners that don't die, these guys deserve a break
Nerfing suicide ganking will only hurt the legit miners, by a lot too, infact suicide gankers help the legit miners a lot by reducing supply and increasing demand, and if you die, it's because you are ignorant or afk, nothing else
They should really instead nerf mission running, remove the drops in highsec, if the 40% of all minerals from mission runners got removed it will really boost mining, they could also boost it in other ways but I think that's a good start, I really think mining in a hulk should be nearly as profitable as mission running
tl;dr
Don't nerf suicide ganking
Mining needs a direct boost to put it on par with mission running
Remove loot drops in missions
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Agent Known
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Posted - 2010.01.10 02:50:00 -
[117]
1: Hulk [510]
2: Mackinaw [239]
3: Retriever [117]
4: Covetor [17]
Jesus....approaching 1000 already.
On another note, I also have an annoying sig.
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Bacchanalian
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.01.10 02:52:00 -
[118]
Originally by: El'Tar
Remove loot drops in missions
Do this and the prices on best-named modules will go through the roof. Supply/demand and all of that.
____________________
GM Sunshine > oops
Neurotica > Hate to see a GM in your gang say 'oops'
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.01.10 04:45:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Bacchanalian
Originally by: El'Tar
Remove loot drops in missions
Do this and the prices on best-named modules will go through the roof. Supply/demand and all of that.
my experience is that best named mods come from belt rats far more often than mission rats.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.10 05:20:00 -
[120]
Edited by: Zill on 10/01/2010 05:21:13
lol so now your actually doing mining a favor by griefing ? hehe too funny. But,no your not you have no other thought on the matter than to coarse grief an upset people. You know it, as well as I do :)
Jihad was directly responsible for the first high sec nerf, an this is far more feral than GF ever was. Do you really think they wont deal with it eventually.
They are watching it to see how bad it gets as it is. Why is it griefers are allowed to make money by attacking others with no risk an no losses... yet miners HAVE to lose ?
Please give me a reason for this I dare you lol
You take zero risk lose nothing at all an have the ability to ruin peoples "PAID"for game time. I would love to know your reasoning for this.
While I can avoid gankers an the little teen gangsta wanna be's many cant. It isn't always cos they are afk either, some have not cottoned on to the fact you lot use BM trading to set up a "Highsec Hot Drop" of sorts.
I do tell people now though if they see anyone jump into the belt, leave no matter if they come near you or not. Destroy your cans an warp out. Some get it, others dont or wont believe it.
They really badly need to remove the locks on NPC corps so they can back each other up, an hunt the griefers in packs
bring Blob warfare to highsec an see how long it is before you lot are ones complaining hehe.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2010.01.10 05:27:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Zill
Jihad was directly responsible for the first high sec nerf.
You know nothing, therefore anything you say is moot. Also, bad troll.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.10 05:29:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 10/01/2010 05:21:13
lol so now your actually doing mining a favor by griefing ? hehe too funny. But,no your not you have no other thought on the matter than to coarse grief an upset people. You know it, as well as I do :)
Jihad was directly responsible for the first high sec nerf, an this is far more feral than GF ever was. Do you really think they wont deal with it eventually.
They are watching it to see how bad it gets as it is. Why is it griefers are allowed to make money by attacking others with no risk an no losses... yet miners HAVE to lose ?
Please give me a reason for this I dare you lol
You take zero risk lose nothing at all an have the ability to ruin peoples "PAID"for game time. I would love to know your reasoning for this.
While I can avoid gankers an the little teen gangsta wanna be's many cant. It isn't always cos they are afk either, some have not cottoned on to the fact you lot use BM trading to set up a "Highsec Hot Drop" of sorts.
I do tell people now though if they see anyone jump into the belt, leave no matter if they come near you or not. Destroy your cans an warp out. Some get it, others dont or wont believe it.
They really badly need to remove the locks on NPC corps so they can back each other up, an hunt the griefers in packs
bring Blob warfare to highsec an see how long it is before you lot are ones complaining hehe.
1. Because it's fun
2. Because we can
3. This type of activity has been nerfed over and over again and yet it never seems to stop, so bring it
4. We all welcome noob blobs, fw is awesome. Never won a 6 vs. 54 fight before fw 
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.10 05:35:00 -
[123]
No you see it has to be "fair" you allow the miners an other non pvper NPC corps to fleet up, we hunt every single griefer or anyone with a low sec status into the ground till they log off or quit the game in packs of 100+ (it's only fair)... there is of coarse full insurance for all members taking part.
Any griefer killed will of coarse loose everything he has instantly an there will naturally be allowances made for NPC players to POD the offender.
Seems quite fair to me an balances out the other side nicely dont you think :)
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slipperywhenhappy
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Posted - 2010.01.10 05:53:00 -
[124]
Umm so let me get this strait to see if i read it right you want a bunch of mission boats to hunt hardcore pvpers with skills based on pvp... that could be the 1st 1vs 100 win i have ever seen.
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Don Pellegrino
Helljumpers
Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 06:06:00 -
[125]
Zill you don't seem to realize that non-dumb and non-macro miners don't die.
Fit a tank and/or don't be afk.
Simple isn't it?
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Nice job, keep it on!
I'm glad I didn't bet on the number of kills
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2010.01.10 06:08:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Zill
No you see it has to be "fair" you allow the miners an other non pvper NPC corps to fleet up, we hunt every single griefer or anyone with a low sec status into the ground till they log off or quit the game in packs of 100+ (it's only fair)... there is of coarse full insurance for all members taking part.
Any griefer killed will of coarse loose everything he has instantly an there will naturally be allowances made for NPC players to POD the offender.
Seems quite fair to me an balances out the other side nicely dont you think :)
Maybe if you had killed anything since 05?
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The Crushah
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.10 06:22:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Zill
No you see it has to be "fair" you allow the miners an other non pvper NPC corps to fleet up, we hunt every single griefer or anyone with a low sec status into the ground till they log off or quit the game in packs of 100+ (it's only fair)... there is of coarse full insurance for all members taking part.
Any griefer killed will of coarse loose everything he has instantly an there will naturally be allowances made for NPC players to POD the offender.
Seems quite fair to me an balances out the other side nicely dont you think :)
You keep mentioning this thing called "fair".
Nobody ever said that anything in EVE was fair. If you want fair where everyone gets a medal for giving it the old college try, find another MMO.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.10 06:33:00 -
[128]
lol lady, look at my kill ratio, then look at my start date I am well acquainted with pvp I jsut burned out. all I do in 00 now days is solo hunt hulks in my SB or scout for people.
As for the other post, It was sarcastic on my part. fairness isnt the issue. I notice you all dodged the question bout why gankers can be allowed full free kills with payment but the miners are only allowed to get killed. an dont try an tell me you never die if your not afk cos you know thats BS.
Hell I lost 2 hulks to Jihad back in day an I am one of the most paranoid people in EvE :) It happens...
Seems you want things as one sided as possible, my "idea" was to highlight the absurdity of the system as it stands, but of coarse you want it that way so you don't have to take any risks :D
I'm an old ganker/griefer mate I know the "rules" as well as you do, I just like to point it out when the pvp elite get too big for their shoes hehe
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Golden Helmet
Caldari
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.10 06:34:00 -
[129]
776 Exhumers down and counting! Keep it up, we have to hit the 1k mark before the event ends
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SolusLunes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
General Panic.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 07:26:00 -
[130]
It's Springtime, for griefers, and Helicity...
****ing awesome. :D
In other, related news, Mitnal was never here. |
fuel2310
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Posted - 2010.01.10 08:10:00 -
[131]
Hulkageddon sucks kill the small and safe the big!!!!
i dont get it!!!
if you wanna kill something in high sec do the right way by a war dec!
not by some stupid newbee stuff ccp puts up to get more action
700 exhummer killed maybe!
i know of over 55 people who guit the game just after getting started for that reason alone
stupid ****ing stupid nothing more nothing less
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Lieff
Over Dosed
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Posted - 2010.01.10 09:10:00 -
[132]
Um, ibis kills avatar?
I sense some underhanded tactics here.
Everybody knows it would take at LEAST 2 ibis' to take down an avatar :/
~
Woke up, got myself a gun. |
riverini
Gallente
MOTHER-CORP
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.10 10:06:00 -
[133]
Originally by: fuel2310
Bittersweet tears...
This is... the true essence of the Hulkageddon
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.10 11:53:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Lieff
Um, ibis kills avatar?
I sense some underhanded tactics here.
Everybody knows it would take at LEAST 2 ibis' to take down an avatar :/
The really funny thing is... I can't even fly an ibis.
*deletes stupid fakemail*
And THIS is why we are making big winners give us their API so we can verify :P
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Imagonnawhupya
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Posted - 2010.01.10 14:29:00 -
[135]
Almost to 800!!
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Invader Xin
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Posted - 2010.01.10 15:03:00 -
[136]
I noticed the Chelien (0.7) system hasn't been touched. It's home to many a afk miners as it's got lots of belts and an ice belt that always seems to have afk miners floating about in. I'd join in the fun but I am stranded at work on a system that has a hard enough time running mozilla :P
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.10 15:29:00 -
[137]
800 \o/
time to start the countdown to 1000?
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Andiria
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Posted - 2010.01.10 15:32:00 -
[138]
Ok before i start i want to mention that im a miner...
And im very disapointed in Hulkageddon not for the reason that you are destroying ships. But the fact that in the area where iam there was like... 20 miners? mining. Some of them macro and some of them not.
Will you ever move on to Otella...? 3 jumps away from Jita.
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Daemonspirit
Redhawk Tribal Trust
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Posted - 2010.01.10 15:34:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Andiria
Will you ever move on to Otella...? 3 jumps away from Jita.
/me logs in alt...
ôEveryone has a right to be stupid; some people just abuse the privilege.ö |
Andiria
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Posted - 2010.01.10 15:37:00 -
[140]
And i mean its good for me if other miners go boom after all... Even more if the macro miners go boom! More roids for me to hug!
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Grimveous
Minmatar
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 15:55:00 -
[141]
Was just about to blow the hell out of 3 macks in otela but some mong decided to warp his ares in on top of them and scare them off =/ grr.
They were literally 20 seconds away from dieing
I eat bunnies, ich esse hassen, karl tenderises the bunnies before i eat them |
NyteTyger
Gallente
NiteSun Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.01.10 16:17:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
800 \o/
time to start the countdown to 1000?
I started that countdown right after we blew the doors off of 300
I don't see how it could possibly in doubt at this point, tbqfh.
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It's a do or die universe, so you better damn well choose between one or the other. |
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Caldari
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2010.01.10 16:40:00 -
[143]
I must say - as someone who delights in the suffering of the defenceless, this is the most hilarious event I've seen happen in Eve in a long time. Here's to 2,000 dead hulks by event's end.
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Mist3r Evil
Caldari
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 17:22:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Grimveous
Was just about to blow the hell out of 3 macks in otela but some mong decided to warp his ares in on top of them and scare them off =/ grr.
They were literally 20 seconds away from dieing
would've been total win tho, if we were 20 seconds faster and the ares warped on top of them as we landed and proceeded to kill the mack and the ares, but alas
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Hulkageddon Jackpot
Amarr
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.01.10 17:23:00 -
[145]
177 to go, if everybody puts in a little effort we will hit 1000 before morning ;D
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Andiria
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Posted - 2010.01.10 18:12:00 -
[146]
Well there are more miners in Otela if people want... Or they can wait untill the server Restart (like 10 ppl instanly log on to do mining)
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Samantha Spacepilot
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Posted - 2010.01.10 18:39:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Don Pellegrino
Zill you don't seem to realize that non-dumb and non-macro miners don't die.
They do to me.
We are all not all clueless Hulkageddon pilots.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.10 20:50:00 -
[148]
Edited by: Zill on 10/01/2010 20:51:08
lol Spacepilot, until you lot have risk associated with highsec killing then your really nothing but teenagers on a rampage. Your not pvping as such just griefing for sake of it. You know it as well as anyone els does.
I kill hulks too but I do it in 0.0 where its risky an I do it SOLO in a paper cannon, but I assume that's a little too harsh fro you lot lol
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 20:57:00 -
[149]
Originally by: fuel2310
!
i know of over 55 people who guit the game just after getting started for
Name them, then.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:13:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Zill on 10/01/2010 21:14:51
I would say a few have be it young ones who got upset because they got hammered in 1.0, or the guy who only plays casually so when he loses he loses more than others. Either way I don't doubt a few quit because of the pack dogs. As to how many, well that's never gonna be known.
Jihad was not really like this it's far more feral now than it used to be.
So it seems worse now, an while CCP got sick of Jihad I think they have been so hard at work in forcing people into 0.0 that they will let this continue now an highsec can become a free for all zone for the young set to FPS it up.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:25:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Helicity Boson on 10/01/2010 21:26:04
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 10/01/2010 21:14:51
I would say a few have be it young ones who got upset because they got hammered in 1.0, or the guy who only plays casually so when he loses he loses more than others. Either way I don't doubt a few quit because of the pack dogs. As to how many, well that's never gonna be known.
Jihad was not really like this it's far more feral now than it used to be.
So it seems worse now, an while CCP got sick of Jihad I think they have been so hard at work in forcing people into 0.0 that they will let this continue now an highsec can become a free for all zone for the young set to FPS it up.
You know, instead of whining like a little female dog, why don't you go out there and do something about it then? gather people and create a defense force with fast tackle etc on gates.
HEAVEN FORFEND YOU FIGHT BACK WITH GAME MECHANICS RATHER THAN CRYING HERE AND HOPING CCP WILL SAVE YOU.
I have news for you, CCP hates players like you, players with no initiative, no ideas, no willpower to DO something about a situation.
You are a worm beneath my mighty boot, because I can do what you cannot, I can motivate people to go out and DO something.
All you can do is cry like a baby, and huddle in terror.
You're but a spec of dust in my shadow mate, that's all you will ever be. And as long as there is people like you, I will find new ways to make you miserable and angry.
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Java Hun
Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:32:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Edited by: Helicity Boson on 10/01/2010 21:26:04
You know, instead of whining like a little female dog, why don't you go out there and do something about it then? gather people and create a defense force with fast tackle etc on gates.
HEAVEN FORFEND YOU FIGHT BACK WITH GAME MECHANICS RATHER THAN CRYING HERE AND HOPING CCP WILL SAVE YOU.
I have news for you, CCP hates players like you, players with no initiative, no ideas, no willpower to DO something about a situation.
You are a worm beneath my mighty boot, because I can do what you cannot, I can motivate people to go out and DO something.
All you can do is cry like a baby, and huddle in terror.
You're but a spec of dust in my shadow mate, that's all you will ever be. And as long as there is people like you, I will find new ways to make you miserable and angry.
Burnnnnnn
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Major PewPew
The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:33:00 -
[153]
9 Mackinaws, 1 Retriever, 2 capsules down at the hands of two ebil piwats! |
Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:34:00 -
[154]
Are you done talking tough yet ? it is quite boring.If your really so scary, PM me an I will happily give you my home address, until then dont waste both our times.
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:35:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Zill
Are you done talking tough yet ? it is quite boring.If your really so scary, PM me an I will happily give you my home address, until then dont waste both our times.
e-thug law
yhl, hand
♥
Wreck Disposal Services |
HULKAGEDDON 2010
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:39:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Zill
Are you done talking tough yet ? it is quite boring.If your really so scary, PM me an I will happily give you my home address, until then dont waste both our times.
I totally agree that arguing over a forum warrants challenging your opponents to real fights.
Right on, brah
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:40:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Zill
Are you done talking tough yet ? it is quite boring.If your really so scary, PM me an I will happily give you my home address, until then dont waste both our times.
Out of things to say now that you've been put to the test? Do something in game to counter this threat! Call people to action! Do something other than whine on the forums!
You can't can you? You can't even motivate yourself, let alone others.
That's the difference here. If you had the wit and the willpower to mount even a tiny force against Hulkageddon, I would respect you.
But you can't be bothered, you'd rather cry like a child and pray the devs will save you, and they will not.
You are weak.
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Java Hun
Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:40:00 -
[158]
Originally by: Awesome Possum
e-thug law
yhl, hand
be careful man, he might give you his home address too
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Grunanca
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:41:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Zill
Are you done talking tough yet ? it is quite boring.If your really so scary, PM me an I will happily give you my home address, until then dont waste both our times.
Is there any way to turn you off?
Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Grimveous
Minmatar
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:45:00 -
[160]
Edited by: Grimveous on 10/01/2010 21:45:06
There is only one way Grunanca, convo him for his home adress, Did you not read the thread? Christ!
I eat bunnies, ich esse hassen, karl tenderises the bunnies before i eat them |
Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:45:00 -
[161]
I am weak ? ok sweet, thanks for telling me. As to me being the ethug ? lol I am a 42 year old fisherman I an I don't play internet thug. I merely offered to make friends with with a fellow Eve gamer, not one single word of threat did I make to anyone . it is after all a game on the net why would I threaten anyone. Your little mate over here seems to think hes quite the scary individual though which I find highly amusing.
As to me doing something, I am in 0.0 all time, ALONE, unlike you lot who pack run in 1.0.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:48:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Zill
I am weak ? ok sweet, thanks for telling me. As to me being the ethug ? lol I am a 42 year old fisherman I an I don't play internet thug. I merely offered to make friends with with a fellow Eve gamer, not one single word of threat did I make to anyone . it is after all a game on the net why would I threaten anyone. Your little mate over here seems to think hes quite the scary individual though which I find highly amusing.
As to me doing something, I am in 0.0 all time, ALONE, unlike you lot who pack run in 1.0.
You're still a weakling. Do something, don't whine and hope CCP saves you. But you can't can you? Because you have no friends, and no will to do something more with the game.
You can't even conceive of how to do it. Give up.
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HULKAGEDDON 2010
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:51:00 -
[163]
Quote:
As to me doing something, I am in 0.0 all time, ALONE, unlike you lot who pack run in 1.0.
Confirming that getting killed NPCing in 0.0 is an extraordinary accomplishment
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Starchy Jeanus
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:55:00 -
[164]
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.10 21:59:00 -
[165]
Originally by: HULKAGEDDON 2010
Quote:
As to me doing something, I am in 0.0 all time, ALONE, unlike you lot who pack run in 1.0.
Confirming that getting killed NPCing in 0.0 is an extraordinary accomplishment
lol that happens occasionally,
little piece of advice, dont attack a Rapier in a SB lol
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Omgah
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:13:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Zill
Are you done talking tough yet ? it is quite boring.If your really so scary, PM me an I will happily give you my home address, until then dont waste both our times.
Please send me your home address. Eve mail me in game or w/e very interested in this offer.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:21:00 -
[167]
Edited by: Zill on 10/01/2010 22:22:25
sent it. Think im done playin wiv you lot, its getting a little boring with this dribble.
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Sytoru Hiroshyma
The Stewie Griffin Fanclub
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:25:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Zill
Are you done talking tough yet ? it is quite boring.If your really so scary, PM me an I will happily give you my home address, until then dont waste both our times.
I'd just like to draw your attention to the EULA at this point. Whilst those taking an active part in Hulkaggedon II are doing so within the confines of the EULA it would seem that not everyone else is.
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The Crushah
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:25:00 -
[169]
Im not a thug, but I play one on the internet!
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:32:00 -
[170]
I don't make threats on the net, only offered a fellow eve gamer a chance to come visit for a beer. totally Innocent. Computer games are for fun an mindless repetition, not drama. :) as for the address I sent O, I'm not an idiot I sent him trash, I am not gonna give a total stranger my home address for nothing, too easy to use it to do criminal acts.
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Omgah
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:35:00 -
[171]
So if you forwarded a fake address and a criminal act took place there wouldn't you be some what responsible?
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:38:00 -
[172]
I dont care what you do,you take responsibility for your own actions.
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Omgah
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.10 22:40:00 -
[173]
Maybe you shouldn't have given out an address at all?
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Tason Hyena
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.01.10 23:35:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Edited by: Helicity Boson on 10/01/2010 21:26:04
You know, instead of whining like a little female dog, why don't you go out there and do something about it then? gather people and create a defense force with fast tackle etc on gates.
HEAVEN FORFEND YOU FIGHT BACK WITH GAME MECHANICS RATHER THAN CRYING HERE AND HOPING CCP WILL SAVE YOU.
I have news for you, CCP hates players like you, players with no initiative, no ideas, no willpower to DO something about a situation.
You are a worm beneath my mighty boot, because I can do what you cannot, I can motivate people to go out and DO something.
All you can do is cry like a baby, and huddle in terror.
You're but a spec of dust in my shadow mate, that's all you will ever be. And as long as there is people like you, I will find new ways to make you miserable and angry.
The reason why this is so successful is because you picked something where you can't organize against it. You are targeting solo and macro miners that fly ships with no ability to offensively preempt you for easy, lossless kills. If it were possible to actually engage an effective resistance, you wouldn't have gotten past 200 exhumers.
Making it a contest diversifies the participants enough to prevent individual wardecs from slowing the impact, not to mention the people mining in empire generally don't want to war anyways, or they would be in 0.0 mining and free from the geddon.
If there was even the slightest amount of risk involved, this would have died on the vine. It's a brilliant stroke, and I applaud you for it, but let's not make it more than it is.
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Wikjaar
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Posted - 2010.01.10 23:42:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Edited by: Helicity Boson on 10/01/2010 21:26:04
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 10/01/2010 21:14:51
I would say a few have be it young ones who got upset because they got hammered in 1.0, or the guy who only plays casually so when he loses he loses more than others. Either way I don't doubt a few quit because of the pack dogs. As to how many, well that's never gonna be known.
Jihad was not really like this it's far more feral now than it used to be.
So it seems worse now, an while CCP got sick of Jihad I think they have been so hard at work in forcing people into 0.0 that they will let this continue now an highsec can become a free for all zone for the young set to FPS it up.
You know, instead of whining like a little female dog, why don't you go out there and do something about it then? gather people and create a defense force with fast tackle etc on gates.
HEAVEN FORFEND YOU FIGHT BACK WITH GAME MECHANICS RATHER THAN CRYING HERE AND HOPING CCP WILL SAVE YOU.
I have news for you, CCP hates players like you, players with no initiative, no ideas, no willpower to DO something about a situation.
You are a worm beneath my mighty boot, because I can do what you cannot, I can motivate people to go out and DO something.
All you can do is cry like a baby, and huddle in terror.
You're but a spec of dust in my shadow mate, that's all you will ever be. And as long as there is people like you, I will find new ways to make you miserable and angry.
I hope you do realise that defending against suicide ganks is lot harder than you say it be. Almost anyone can fly catalyst and quickly form a group to go search victims in belts. If the miners who (many new ones at least cant even fly very good ships other than the hulk) just start to group and fly with catalsyts in hope to retaliation .. they have no target, whom they attack. There is no 100million pirate ships flying who cant defend themselfs not even in lowsec. Or do you suggest that instead of doing what they like to do they just patrol the mine belts with their ****ty ships in vain hope to catch some ganker. I have heard you say lots of wise things too about how stupid some things in mining are but when you start to defend this idiocy of yours by belitling others it just reveals your true nature. And before you raise yourself above others may i remind you that you are not the inventor of suicide ganking. Imo you should seek help about these feelings "And as long as there is people like you, I will find new ways to make you miserable and angry"
thats not healthy you know =P
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Omgah
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.10 23:44:00 -
[176]
The best part is when the game flashes a big warning on the screen saying that outlaws have entered the system, that might be a good time to dock up?
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Kazang
Wrecking Shots
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Posted - 2010.01.11 00:06:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Omgah
So if you forwarded a fake address and a criminal act took place there wouldn't you be some what responsible?
Lol, so if you trolled some dude on teh internets and he got angry in irl and kicked a puppy, you would be responsible!
omgah the animal welfare people will be arriving shortly! Damn puppy hatters!
Kazang
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Omgah
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 00:09:00 -
[178]
Oh noes, I better start packing my bags maybe I can. . . there's a knocks at the door. Good bye my eve friends they've come for me
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Cyprus Black
Caldari
Cowboy Diplomacy
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Posted - 2010.01.11 01:23:00 -
[179]
Confirming that the only people who care about macro miners getting ganked are the macro miners themselves.
Something they shouldn't be doing in the first place.
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"In the land of predators, the lion does not fear the jackal."
-Dexter |
Bel'shamharoth
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Posted - 2010.01.11 01:53:00 -
[180]
900 down, 1100 to go!
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I'm not a fig plucker or a fig plucker's son, but I'll pluck figs till the fig plucking's done. |
NyteTyger
Gallente
NiteSun Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.01.11 01:56:00 -
[181]
Edited by: NyteTyger on 11/01/2010 01:56:36
900!
\o/
Edit: Damn you Bel!
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It's a do or die universe, so you better damn well choose between one or the other. |
Argon IItilis
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Posted - 2010.01.11 02:03:00 -
[182]
wow...
I wonder how this will affect mineral prices, like Trit.
Not to mention Hulk prices!
lots of new hulks are going to be bought
Roaming the stars...
Searching |
Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 02:25:00 -
[183]
901 now
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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JordanParey
Minmatar
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.01.11 03:02:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Zill
Are you done talking tough yet ? it is quite boring.If your really so scary, PM me an I will happily give you my home address, until then dont waste both our times.
I sense a man-date in your future
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2010.01.11 03:05:00 -
[185]
908 exhumers as of now
♥
Wreck Disposal Services |
Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 03:07:00 -
[186]
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 03:06:52
Originally by: JordanParey
Originally by: Zill
Are you done talking tough yet ? it is quite boring.If your really so scary, PM me an I will happily give you my home address, until then dont waste both our times.
I sense a man-date in your future
That woulds be a really huge mistake
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Zxepa
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Posted - 2010.01.11 03:08:00 -
[187]
HAY!! SUM GAIZ TRIED 2 GANK MAI VARGUR IN HI-SEC TODAY THREE JUMPS FROM JITAOLOLOL ...i thot dis was hulkageddon not vargurgeddon was liek surs 10 maelstrums n ravens i was liek LOLO-DOCLKPLZPLZDOCK- ..u no what happend next?...
.....ROFL ALL DEM FUQN DIED I WAS BOUT 2 SCOOP DA LOOT but i had no structure so got bak in station 2 repair man dat was cloze call i culd hve lost a lot of money but foreal i jus wnted 2 sai dat dis is rly getn out of hand u guize r getn rly co-cky lololll
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Invader Xin
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Posted - 2010.01.11 03:12:00 -
[188]
I am telling you guys. as of 03:10 eve time 45 people in Chelien (7.0) and plenty just afk mining the ice 'n roid belt here. That's a potential 45 more kills towards a thousand :D :D
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Hamatitio
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.11 03:32:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Zxepa
HAY!! SUM GAIZ TRIED 2 GANK MAI VARGUR IN HI-SEC TODAY THREE JUMPS FROM JITAOLOLOL ...i thot dis was hulkageddon not vargurgeddon was liek surs 10 maelstrums n ravens i was liek LOLO-DOCLKPLZPLZDOCK- ..u no what happend next?...
.....ROFL ALL DEM FUQN DIED I WAS BOUT 2 SCOOP DA LOOT but i had no structure so got bak in station 2 repair man dat was cloze call i culd hve lost a lot of money but foreal i jus wnted 2 sai dat dis is rly getn out of hand u guize r getn rly co-cky lololll
My eyes... The goggles they do nothing.
Originally by: Forest Gump
And that's all I got to say 'bout that.
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GrammarNazi
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Posted - 2010.01.11 03:40:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Zxepa
HAY!! SUM GAIZ TRIED 2 GANK MAI VARGUR IN HI-SEC TODAY THREE JUMPS FROM JITAOLOLOL ...i thot dis was hulkageddon not vargurgeddon was liek surs 10 maelstrums n ravens i was liek LOLO-DOCLKPLZPLZDOCK- ..u no what happend next?...
.....ROFL ALL DEM FUQN DIED I WAS BOUT 2 SCOOP DA LOOT but i had no structure so got bak in station 2 repair man dat was cloze call i culd hve lost a lot of money but foreal i jus wnted 2 sai dat dis is rly getn out of hand u guize r getn rly co-cky lololll
Normally, I'd try to correct this blatent failure to communicate, but I can't be bothered. To summarize: Move along. I have nothing worthwhile to contribute.
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HULKAGEDDON 2010
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Posted - 2010.01.11 03:43:00 -
[191]
Quote:
The reason why this is so successful is because you picked something where you can't organize against it. You are targeting solo and macro miners that fly ships with no ability to offensively preempt you for easy, lossless kills. If it were possible to actually engage an effective resistance, you wouldn't have gotten past 200 exhumers.
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targeting solo and macro miners that fly ships with no ability to offensively preempt you
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targeting solo and macro miners
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2010.01.11 03:47:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Grammar****
I have nothing worthwhile to contribute.
Agreed.
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CCP Applebabe
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Posted - 2010.01.11 04:05:00 -
[193]
Please stay on topic.
Off-topic posts will be removed.
Applebabe
Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 04:19:00 -
[194]
Originally by: CCP Applebabe
Please stay on topic.
Off-topic posts will be removed.
Please don't remove the hater comments
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Zxepa
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Posted - 2010.01.11 04:55:00 -
[195]
Edited by: Zxepa on 11/01/2010 05:00:02
Originally by: Grammar****
Originally by: Zxepa
HAY!! SUM GAIZ TRIED 2 GANK MAI VARGUR IN HI-SEC TODAY THREE JUMPS FROM JITAOLOLOL ...i thot dis was hulkageddon not vargurgeddon was liek surs 10 maelstrums n ravens i was liek LOLO-DOCLKPLZPLZDOCK- ..u no what happend next?...
.....ROFL ALL DEM FUQN DIED I WAS BOUT 2 SCOOP DA LOOT but i had no structure so got bak in station 2 repair man dat was cloze call i culd hve lost a lot of money but foreal i jus wnted 2 sai dat dis is rly getn out of hand u guize r getn rly co-cky lololll
Normally, I'd try to correct this blatentblatentblatentblatent failure to communicate, but I can't be bothered. To summarize: Move along. I have nothing worthwhile to contribute.
Irony: an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected.
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Sonar Sudor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 06:41:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Edited by: Helicity Boson on 10/01/2010 15:28:57
Over 800 exhumers have been destoyed by our glorious forces!!
Yeah whatever. But fail to see whats so glorious about detroying something which cant defend itself... And no I didnt lose a hulk to this glorious event...
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2010.01.11 07:16:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Sonar Sudor
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Edited by: Helicity Boson on 10/01/2010 15:28:57
Over 800 exhumers have been destoyed by our glorious forces!!
Yeah whatever. But fail to see whats so glorious about detroying something which cant defend itself... And no I didnt lose a hulk to this glorious event...
It has drones and 4 mid slots.. They can defend themselves fine if people weren't so worried about squeezing the most amount of ore out of them as possible.
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Zxepa
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Posted - 2010.01.11 07:24:00 -
[198]
The contradicting mentality in this game is so phenomenally obscured it's just riddled with lulz.
0.0 veteran: Dude, we can't even use our MoM's any more because their absolutely defenseless to titan DD's and dread swarms!
1.0 veteran: sup! veldsp- "Your ship is spinning out of control" FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU-
So when mom's are neglected and refused their help from CCP it's considered a work in progress
But mass genocide, of a ship that the majority of eve uses is considered an event
..and the best part is that the attackers take absolutely no loss from this.
It gets even better. "Why're you guys crying so loud when you can simply just rally your defenses and fight us!!" These are two completely different worlds! yes, i'm officially engaging a call to arms to every industrialist affected in this "glorious" jihad to take their nearest strip miner and mining drone AND WE'LL LEAD THE CHARGE INTO BATTLE...THIS...IS...VELDPSAAAAR.
"Adapt or die" Instead of dying in 5 seconds i'll die in 10! with this invuln.
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Jedi Deus
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Posted - 2010.01.11 07:43:00 -
[199]
Interesting to see these gloating on so called "PvP" accomplishments. I've come to think really Eve obviously lacks moderation of it's own policies and contradicts rules for it's mechanics. Easily this "Event" is supported "grief play". Don't know what it is?
How about...You think you're a Pirate?
b. Uses role-playing as an excuse for violating the guidelines regarding fair play with others.
You can't make it any more obvious, even the "exploit" method to make it so.
Oh but let's say there is a "prize", that way we can avoid the rules and mechanics because "gah-lee I am getting something so it aint grief'n" Guess everyone else that fails should suffer the consequences because they aren't getting anything. Oh except the insurance payout right... How about characters created only to participate, see the above regarding "Grief Play"
I'm sure Eve has plenty of PvP encounters available without CareBear Pirates LoL. Perhaps you should go back to playing WoW. This would be typical situation for you to shine. I think they really miss the NPC battles of winning. If not, wouldn't you be more apt to conquer and win/lose. It's like the pacified kid, take out the pacifier and they start crying. So CCP gives it back to them... Then... what do you think it comes down to?
Perhaps... they would like you to lose your income potential so you can't PLEX... then...
Scandalous_
Play to CRUSH, Evelution is coming HA!
SB rules!
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z0de
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 08:04:00 -
[200]
There's anus blood everywhere, this is horrific!
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Elstine
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Posted - 2010.01.11 08:06:00 -
[201]
Yay! Lets cheer on the easiest ship to kill in EVE next to a Ibis!
Winner of the 1000th "Only T2 with no real tank after modules, easy gank/blob target" gets a station container full of tube socks to fluff with!
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 08:13:00 -
[202]
You know, it's really not that hard to join the hulkageddon channel, read where people are going for a gank and either:
1) not be in a belt, or be aligned
2) put frigates with sensor boosters and points on the gates, police will handle the rest
3) hire a guy in a scimitar to help your tank
4) actually FIT a tank
5) actually BE at your keyboard
This is EVE FFS, show some initiative and team work and be RESPONSIBLE for your own safety, don't expect CCP to MAKE you safe.
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Seralder
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Posted - 2010.01.11 08:20:00 -
[203]
Edited by: Seralder on 11/01/2010 08:24:50
Originally by: Elstine
Yay! Lets cheer on the easiest ship to kill in EVE next to a Ibis!
Winner of the 1000th "Only T2 with no real tank after modules, easy gank/blob target" gets a station container full of tube socks to fluff with!
÷hm.. you know, you can fit a hulk for 25-32k ehp and with overload and fleetboni to 41k hp?
its not frobidden, to use other mods than CARGO oder Mining Upgrades... and it exists other Rigs for Hulks than Mining Drone Rigs
when you fly a paperhulk under 6k hp, ITS YOUR PROBLEM and not a ship problem! You can fit the Hulk very good vs suizide-gankers. think about that...
99% of the hulk kills in high sec was an paperhulk. learn fit vs suizide pirate or learn blow & be quiet!
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 08:54:00 -
[204]
So because you decree it, Miners have to limit their already small isk making ability to counter your teenage need to act out ?... Interesting
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 08:59:00 -
[205]
Edited by: Intense Thinker on 11/01/2010 09:00:08
Originally by: Seralder
÷hm.. you know, you can fit a hulk for 25-32k ehp and with overload and fleetboni to 41k hp?
its not frobidden, to use other mods than CARGO oder Mining Upgrades...
I believe that's one of the 10 commandments... though shalt not tank thy Hulk
Originally by: Zill
So because you decree it, Miners have to limit their already small isk making ability to counter your teenage need to act out ?... Interesting
Or get their Hulk blown up.. I prefer it that way honestly
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 09:09:00 -
[206]
I think everyone but Zill has figured out by now that your safety is your own responsibility, not CCPs.
Some people are just...well... not suited for life in space.
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Lightningshade
Caldari
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2010.01.11 09:09:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Zill
They really badly need to remove the locks on NPC corps so they can back each other up, an hunt the griefers in packs
bring Blob warfare to highsec an see how long it is before you lot are ones complaining hehe.
you wouldn't catch my pod, boy
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.01.11 09:10:00 -
[208]
Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 11/01/2010 09:12:26
Quote:
I think this whole event is brilliant and why would CCP nerf it? Macro or AFK miners (whatever you want to call them) are bad for the game. They cheat real miners out of the friuts of their labours, de-value the economy by flooding it with cheap minerals and most importantly, they fuel Real Money Trading.
RMTers as per CCP's QEN, are more on macro missioning than macro mining.
Why nothing is done about that? Is getting to Motsu too challenging?
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If your really killing just macros GREAT.If your killing eve players then that is stupid.Are you bumping the hulks? Are you convo them to see if there macros?
Most of your kills wouldn't happen if the hulkers would tank the hulks.
Tanking an hulk is a magnet to a nicer killmail. There's no way to prevent an hulk from popping whatever tank you put on it. Freighters have 120k or so EHP and still die (with a similar ganking cost, that is zero), what would you slap on an exhumer (think they can't go beyond 31k EHP)?
Moreover a fully tanked hulk mines bad. At this point it's just better to use a max-mining yield and insurable covetor.
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You know, it's really not that hard to join the hulkageddon channel, read where people are going for a gank and either:
1) not be in a belt, or be aligned
2) put frigates with sensor boosters and points on the gates, police will handle the rest
3) hire a guy in a scimitar to help your tank
4) actually FIT a tank
5) actually BE at your keyboard
This is EVE FFS, show some initiative and team work and be RESPONSIBLE for your own safety, don't expect CCP to MAKE you safe
Here's the solution to any hi-sec AFK tard-ness: remove Concord off the belts (leaving it at gates, stations etc).
Wanna bet that macroers disappear in few days and that mineral prices will finally raise a bit?
Would say the same for macro missions (they impact the economy far worse than miners) but then you'd see the crying raise to beyond the sky.
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÷hm.. you know, you can fit a hulk for 25-32k ehp and with overload and fleetboni to 41k hp?
its not frobidden, to use other mods than CARGO oder Mining Upgrades... and it exists other Rigs for Hulks than Mining Drone Rigs
when you fly a paperhulk under 6k hp, ITS YOUR PROBLEM and not a ship problem! You can fit the Hulk very good vs suizide-gankers. think about that...
99% of the hulk kills in high sec was an paperhulk. learn fit vs suizide pirate or learn blow & be quiet!
Fit an hulk to 25+ EHP and you still have a very expensive, very BAD at mining and fancy killmail.
Fit a covetor for maxed mining yield (if it dies who cares) and you get more or less the same yield, but with a worthless killmail off an insurance-free ship.
It's fair game after all. Free gank boats for free mining boats. Shows off how EvE economy is quite worrysome ATM as EvE is supposed to impose careful, hard choices.
In the end? Calculating a terrible macro yield of 4M per hour (it's why money savy RMTers switched to missioning), 23/7 for 300 days a year yields about 30B. Full AFK, macroed 30B.
Killing 1, 2, 10 hulks to that macroer won't make a dent.
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So because you decree it, Miners have to limit their already small isk making ability to counter your teenage need to act out ?... Interesting
You might switch to a MMO that is not explicitly targeted at non consensual, sanctioned, PvP, ganking and harassing.
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The Crushah
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.11 09:16:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Zill
So because you decree it, Miners have to limit their already small isk making ability to counter your teenage need to act out ?... Interesting
Despite the fact that CCP has explicitly sanctioned suicide ganking you believe that you will convince people on the forums otherwise by being shrill and patronizing. Interesting...
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Trigger64
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.11 09:28:00 -
[210]
Posting my support for my Hulkageddon brosefs.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 09:29:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
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RMTers as per CCP's QEN, are more on macro missioning than macro mining.
Why nothing is done about that? Is getting to Motsu too challenging?
Hulkageddon works because it has a low entry threshold, allowing many people to join in, possibly on low SP alts. Taking out macro missioners, however appealing (and it is to me) it may be takes a higher level of coordination, planning, ships and skillpoints to achieve.
I could never run a missiongeddon on this scale, though I'm not excluding the possibility of a smaller scale strike against those in the not-so-distant future using only more experienced corps.
But frankly, they just need to remove T1 drops from l4s so miners actually matter and be more aggressive in scoping out macro users.
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Sonar Sudor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 09:40:00 -
[212]
Fit the hulk as an "uber" tank and mine little to nothing in a otherwise expensive ship? Hmmm yeah what a great idear...
I say remove the insurance payout for ppl who destroys ship by blowing up their own and disallow players who are known to kill other players to enter high sec. Because isnt that what highsec are all about? Being safe and protected? And how many miners feel safe right now?
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Kalnov
Gallente
Problematique Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 10:20:00 -
[213]
What I really don't get is how some people lost orcas in lowsec.....
There's very little in lowsec for miners. I just don't get it.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.01.11 10:28:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Kalnov
What I really don't get is how some people lost orcas in lowsec.....
There's very little in lowsec for miners. I just don't get it.
Some systems where I lived in (and they were VERY in deep low sec) were not so bad as the rest of "regular" low sec, minerals speaking.
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari
Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.11 10:43:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Sonar Sudor
Fit the hulk as an "uber" tank and mine little to nothing in a otherwise expensive ship? Hmmm yeah what a great idear...
I say remove the insurance payout for ppl who destroys ship by blowing up their own and disallow players who are known to kill other players to enter high sec. Because isnt that what highsec are all about? Being safe and protected? And how many miners feel safe right now?
This had better be a poor troll.
As CCP has stated repeatedly, high-sec is safer, not safe.
And removing the insurance payout wouldn't hurt the roaming dessie/cruiser gangs in their >20m ships in the slightest. It might make for some amusing carebear tears when they get concorded by accident though.
Careful, you might get what you ask for.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 10:53:00 -
[216]
I notice ont one of you griefers will answer the question as to why you fele your entitled to freedom of griefing with no risk, no consequence at all. You know full well none of you want to go to 0.0 because it isnt "safe" for you. You gank day 1 newbes in their rookie ships in 1.0 an call it "hunting macros" when your full of **** lol. Your just trying to make a mark on the game as some sort of bad arse greifer tough guy an you know it.
You love the fact you can do anything you want in highsec with no consequence even though it makes everyone els lives crap, just so long as you can have fun with your possie's
Removal of insurance an instant -10 for all griefers who kill in 0.6 an above. Fairs fair, after all why should miners ahve any risks if you dont lol. Anyone see the hypocrisy...
I love how one of the trolls want mission runners nurfed, yet says griefers are hard done by an "need" the system as it stands.... so you want mission runners to get nothing yet still be available for you to kill.... nice
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 10:59:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Zill
I notice ont one of you griefers will answer the question as to why you fele your entitled to freedom of griefing with no risk, no consequence at all. You know full well none of you want to go to 0.0 because it isnt "safe" for you. You gank day 1 newbes in their rookie ships in 1.0 an call it "hunting macros" when your full of **** lol. Your just trying to make a mark on the game as some sort of bad arse greifer tough guy an you know it.
You love the fact you can do anything you want in highsec with no consequence even though it makes everyone els lives crap, just so long as you can have fun with your possie's
Removal of insurance an instant -10 for all griefers who kill in 0.6 an above. Fairs fair, after all why should miners ahve any risks if you dont lol. Anyone see the hypocrisy...
I love how one of the trolls want mission runners nurfed, yet says griefers are hard done by an "need" the system as it stands.... so you want mission runners to get nothing yet still be available for you to kill.... nice
Until you answer why you should not use any of the many means possible to defend yourself against gankers, and rather want CCP to fix YOUR problem and inability and unwillingness to play, I don't owe you any further explanations.
Though if you had been paying attention you will have noticed I have already mentioned multiple times that I think getting insurance after concord is silly.
You "instant -10" idea is pretty much moronic, but expected from a spineless weasel by now. What happens when a newbie shoots a ninja salvager in a mission genius? that's right, you just made the newbie lose his ship, his insurance and he is now -10 and will never EVER recover.
Try not to think too hard Zill, you're not good at it.
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Spins Meats
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:07:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 11:03:21
I notice ont one of you griefers will answer the question as to why you fele your entitled to freedom of griefing with no risk, no consequence at all. You know full well none of you want to go to 0.0 because it isnt "safe" for you.
http://hulkageddon2.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=1323
http://hulkageddon2.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=1375
Originally by: Zill
As for the ganker wanna be's calling me shrill an patronizing, I merely state facts son,
No you don't.
/Meats
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Demolishar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:12:00 -
[219]
A favorite quote of mine:
Quote:
Carebears arent people, they're giant loot pinatas!
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Helen
Optimus Crime.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:12:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Zill
Hell I lost 2 hulks to Jihad back in day an I am one of the most paranoid people in EvE :) It happens...
TIME TO NUT UP OR SHUT UP |
Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:14:00 -
[221]
I have answered that question 100 times already. You say if I want to mine I have to fit my hulk so its pointless to mine an I make 3-5 mil an hour because its your right to kill anyone anytime in highsec... you don't go to lowsec because you'd get killed, an you define your toughness by a computer game. Or you want me to fly a cheaper ship "its just as good after all"... wrong it isn't just as good an some of us trained a crap ton of skills to high levels to use what we have.If it was just as good there wouldn't be hulks.
Who are you to dictate what we can use. Until son, you show some backbone an go somewhere where you are just as much a target you don't impress anyone. As to newbes getting -10 leave it out sunshine, that is so easily avoided its beneath my notice.
So you done calling me silly childish names yet ? I don't doubt for a min I've done as much pvp in the short time I did it as you have ever done, an it all means nothing. I happen to find pvp in EvE utterly boring.
I play the game for the friends I meet an the industry side now, neither is "the way to play" they are both different sides of same coin.If you choose to talk to me in future, please attempt some level of maturity.
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:22:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 11:03:21
I notice ont one of you griefers will answer the question as to why you fele your entitled to freedom of griefing with no risk, no consequence at all.
Short answer is... because we can
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Spins Meats
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:26:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Zill
Who are you to dictate what we can use? As to newbes getting -10 leave it out sunshine, that is so easily avoided its beneath my notice.
There's a concept called 'balance.' You appear to be unfamiliar with it, preferring 'i want things my way.' Let me explain to you what would happen if your idiotic idea got traction:
- A reasonable number of noobs would wind up insta -10 for trivial mistakes. Some of these will be able to reroll (having only played for a short time), and continue wiser. Others (dare I say 'most'?) will not bother, and cancel their subscription.
- Anyone RRing a fleetmate who later got a GCC would also wind up insta -10. This is a pretty low (albeit amusing) trick to play on somebody, but it happens more than you'd think. To people like you.
- People in an RR fleet during an empire war, who lag slightly and fire on a fleetmate because the wrong target was selected will become insta -10. This has happened to me (albeit not in highsec)
I could go on. I won't.
Are you going to make any cohesive points in FAVOUR of your argument, or just 'i want it that way, and you're an idiot if you think otherwise'?
/Meats
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:26:00 -
[224]
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 11:31:19
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 11:30:11
lol thinker, at least your honest.
The more I talk to the "people" in this forum the more I understand why I love going to sea for a month at a time....
spins shh, your silly little school yard sniping is quite boring, unlike you lot who demand an fight for the system to stay as it is so you can grief your hearts out, most of us like a more balanced game where "EVERYONE" has consequences for what they do. Newbes would not get insta -10 at all, CCP can easily make it so they don't gain such a penalty.
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:29:00 -
[225]
Tears. I smell sweet, sweet tears!
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Java Hun
Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:29:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 11:03:21
I notice ont one of you griefers will answer the question as to why you fele your entitled to freedom of griefing with no risk, no consequence at all.
We might not get a good drop. Happy?
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High life
Patron
Eve
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Spins Meats
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:31:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Java Hun
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 11:03:21
I notice ont one of you griefers will answer the question as to why you fele your entitled to freedom of griefing with no risk, no consequence at all.
We might not get a good drop. Happy?
QFT.
Elaborating slightly, applying the concept of 'opportunity cost' to suicide ganking, if we assume that I gank 4 hulks in an hour (absolute max you can do on one character in highsec), and wind up with a bunch of expanded cargohold 2s and not much else to show for it, I'm 20 to 30 million ISK worth of opportunity cost in the hole.
There is real (economic) risk in suicide ganking.
/Meats
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Spins Meats
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:37:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 11:31:19
spins shh, your silly little school yard sniping is quite boring, unlike you lot who demand an fight for the system to stay as it is so you can grief your hearts out, most of us like a more balanced game where "EVERYONE" has consequences for what they do. Newbes would not get insta -10 at all, CCP can easily make it so they don't gain such a penalty.
So "Newbes" don't, but the other cases I presented still go insta -10 in your world? Yet you claim to like balance?
I will admit that I'd be happy if insurance was nerfed, I honestly don't care one way or the other on that front; your insta -10 idea is idiotic in ANY form. As insurance is (perhaps) unablanced in favour of the suicide ganker at the moment, your insta -10 proposal is unbalanced in favour of whiny carebear prats.
Do you disagree?
/Meats
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Java Hun
Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:43:00 -
[229]
Instantly -10 is pretty dumb, but coming from you i wouldn't expect anything smarter tbqh.
I don't know how many drunken nights I've accidentally targeted a station or some one and shot in high-sec, mostly due to my hot key being control
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High life
Patron
Eve
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:44:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 11:16:26
you don't go to lowsec because you'd get killed.
I live in lowsec. you are a clueless idiot.
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Or you want me to fly a cheaper ship "its just as good after all"... wrong it isn't just as good an some of us trained a crap ton of skills to high levels to use what we have.If it was just as good there wouldn't be hulks.
And if they pay attention to their surroundings, they will never get ganked
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Who are you to dictate what we can use? As to newbes getting -10 leave it out sunshine, that is so easily avoided its beneath my notice.
I dont dictate anything, -you- do with your arbitrary and invented rules. We play within the mechanics as presented, we urge miners to do the same instead of -not- using the mechanics present to defend themselves, and crying to CCP
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So you done calling me silly childish names yet ? I don't doubt for a min I've done as much pvp in the short time I did it as you have ever done, an it all means nothing. I happen to find pvp in EvE utterly boring.
A quick trip to battleclinic would show you, that once again, you are a clueless idiot.
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I play the game for the friends I meet an the industry side now, neither is "the way to play" they are both different sides of same coin.If you choose to talk to me in future, please attempt some level of maturity.
I will talk to you in whatever way I choose, I see you carefully avoided, once again, that I am in favor of removing insurance after concord.
But you just keep spouting your ill-informed opinions, your baseless accusations, and your generally ill-conceived notions of what EVE is like.
You don't get EVE, you never will, and as long as there are ignorant players as yourself, there will be griefing. CCP is not the answer to griefings, PLAYING THE GAME SMART AND RIGHT IS.
And until the day that you finally figure that out, you will continue to defend players that NEVER BOTHER to learn how to play, and the macro miner RMTs that hide in between them.
But please continue, your flailing and squirming is pleasing to us.
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Grimveous
Minmatar
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 11:47:00 -
[231]
I was minus 10 before the event started, and im still killing all your carebears. Win
In short, not exploit, It isnt going to change for you, you have to adapt to it. If you cant be arsed to adapt, well, enjoy your death.
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Zxepa
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Posted - 2010.01.11 12:04:00 -
[232]
Good lord, quit the psycho babble bull. Sometimes i believe you people just like to see yourself post. You're interpreting Game Play through a widely accepted, outdated reimbursement scheme that was intended for an entirely different purpose. You're (general) also self-accrediting yourself for "organizing" such an event when in reality the only thing organizing anything is the fact that CCP has a very old game mechanic that is quite literally being exploited to it's maximum.
You're also telling other people how they should play the game they payed for because you're using straw-man extremes to rationalize their inability to do anything about it. I'm sure every Hulk didn't intend to have 4 to 5 battleships randomly drop on their OP and stir mass panic. I'm sure every Hulk pilot knows full well that a single or even double battleship gang may not be efficient enough to gank it. Which is why they choose not to heavily tank their ships because THEY are the ones living in reality.
And before anyone quotes anything in this passage/whine/tears various other forms of contrasting opinion please realize that you're shooting....HULKS with multiple BATTLESHIPS. Thank you
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 12:05:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Zxepa
Good lord, quit the psycho babble bull. Sometimes i believe you people just like to see yourself post. You're interpreting Game Play through a widely accepted, outdated reimbursement scheme that was intended for an entirely different purpose. You're (general) also self-accrediting yourself for "organizing" such an event when in reality the only thing organizing anything is the fact that CCP has a very old game mechanic that is quite literally being exploited to it's maximum.
You're also telling other people how they should play the game they payed for because you're using straw-man extremes to rationalize their inability to do anything about it. I'm sure every Hulk didn't intend to have 4 to 5 battleships randomly drop on their OP and stir mass panic. I'm sure every Hulk pilot knows full well that a single or even double battleship gang may not be efficient enough to gank it. Which is why they choose not to heavily tank their ships because THEY are the ones living in reality.
And before anyone quotes anything in this passage/whine/tears various other forms of contrasting opinion please realize that you're shooting....HULKS with multiple BATTLESHIPS. Thank you
Welcome to Eve
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Lazr GoPew
Here comes the pain train
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Posted - 2010.01.11 12:27:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Zxepa
And before anyone quotes anything in this passage/whine/tears various other forms of contrasting opinion please realize that you're shooting....HULKS with multiple BATTLESHIPS. Thank you
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 12:32:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Zxepa
DERP DERP DERPADERPDERP DERPA DERP *CRY*
You need to learn how to read. Go back to my post, and READ what I said, and have been saying in multiple threads, about insurance.
Now shut up and go be ashamed of yourself, bleedin' carebear.
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Zxepa
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Posted - 2010.01.11 12:58:00 -
[236]
Edited by: Zxepa on 11/01/2010 13:01:07
I don't give a damn to what you've said i don't give a damn about your opinion. I don't even know who the hell you are You think you're some divine, righteous and self-justified angel delivering swift retribution to hapless players. Solely spun off the idealization that what you're doing is benefiting the eve society. You're a dude under a chicks portrait with a bad case of superiority complex and an assbackwards agenda.
Do you honestly want to do something even worth the hype you've caused with this? Try removing the 50 or so constant L4 farmers from motsu and sivala. The only reason why you won't is because the farmers won't be losing a god-damn-thing, sort of how you aren't losing a god damn thing due to very same mechanic driving your hate machine.
And it's saddening because all of the RT money traders have already moved to mission farming and what you're doing is literally just screwing over your own fellow players for absolutely no reason.
Edit:: For fail quoting x2
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 12:59:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Zxepa
Good lord, quit the psycho babble bull. Sometimes i believe you people just like to see yourself post. You're interpreting Game Play through a widely accepted, outdated reimbursement scheme that was intended for an entirely different purpose. You're (general) also self-accrediting yourself for "organizing" such an event when in reality the only thing organizing anything is the fact that CCP has a very old game mechanic that is quite literally being exploited to it's maximum.
You're also telling other people how they should play the game they payed for because you're using straw-man extremes to rationalize their inability to do anything about it. I'm sure every Hulk didn't intend to have 4 to 5 battleships randomly drop on their OP and stir mass panic. I'm sure every Hulk pilot knows full well that a single or even double battleship gang may not be efficient enough to gank it. Which is why they choose not to heavily tank their ships because THEY are the ones living in reality.
And before anyone quotes anything in this passage/whine/tears various other forms of contrasting opinion please realize that you're shooting....HULKS with multiple BATTLESHIPS. Thank you
this is probably the most intelligent post I have seen in all this dribble the young ones have been dishing out.... Very well said Zxepa
Exactly what I wanted to say. But your better at words than I am mate :)
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:01:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Zxepa
I don't give a damn to what you've said i don't give a damn about your opinion.
Our point exactly
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:04:00 -
[239]
Edited by: Helicity Boson on 11/01/2010 13:05:17
Originally by: Zill
Yay! my butt buddy is here! Time to pretend I know what I'm talking about! We buy into your comedic faux-grandstanding megalomania because we are not smart enough to see you are trying to get insurance after death from Concord nerfed on purpose!
Read that^
Now read it again^
And finally:
Get. A. Clue.
Any questions?
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:06:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Jedi Deus
b. Uses role-playing as an excuse for violating the guidelines regarding fair play with others.
There is NOTHING in the EULA about fairplay
What "guidelines" are you talking about?
Sure you didn't confuse this with this?
Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character...only fools buy into anything a forum alt says though...
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:07:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Edited by: Helicity Boson on 11/01/2010 13:05:17
Originally by: Zill
Yay! my butt buddy is here! Time to pretend I know what I'm talking about! We buy into your comedic faux-grandstanding megalomania because we are not smart enough to see you are trying to get insurance after death from Concord nerfed on purpose!
Read that^
Now read it again^
And finally:
Get. A. Clue.
Any questions?
I read it through and then read it again!!!
But due to the level of Tetrahydrocannabinol I am currently under I don't get it
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:08:00 -
[242]
Boston son, your not clever falsifying posts by me, grow up a little mate seriously.. your just being silly. I understand your young an in reality its not easy for you restrain yourself, but your childish antics are quite sad.
You are neither tough, nor are you correct in your dribble, so why keep it up son. ? really take a break an think a little.
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Lightningshade
Caldari
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:15:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Zill
all this dribble the young ones have been dishing out.... Very well said Zxepa
Exactly what I wanted to say. But your better at words than I am mate :)
Why do you speak to people as if you are something? Your just this horrible little cretin that may have had achievements in beta - but since then you just clutter up the noob corp so you can swan about in front of the noobs, with them stood in awe of you - like maybe "Chribba lite" - all the look of someone important, with with all substance removed.
When you do manage to develop a pair (or purchase with your eleventy bil isk) - join a corp and HTFU. You are not the "defender of righteousness" - just a useless mouth with no great achievements, and apart from the blind followings from a few NPC noobs, have nothing to show.
My experience of you comes from a cyno alt within scope, and I get the pleasure of watching your endless drivel span my screen when he logs in
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:16:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Zill
Boston son, your not clever falsifying posts by me, grow up a little mate seriously.. your just being silly. I understand your young an in reality its not easy for you restrain yourself, but your childish antics are quite sad.
You are neither tough, nor are you correct in your dribble, so why keep it up son. ? really take a break an think a little.
Read it again. The very point you are missing is in there. Go on I'll quote it for you:
"Trying to get insurance after concord death nerfed on purpose"
See? Did you read it this time or are your eyes still full of brine from fishing?
We are addressing several things here:
-mining is a worthless profession due to mineral influx from other sources and mass macro mining. We believe miners SHOULD be important instead
-miners are mistaken in their belief they should be perfectly safe and never fit defenses on their ships or are permanently AFK
-insurance after concord death is stupid, and needs to be removed. (actually all insurance should be removed, but that is a topic too lengthy to discuss here)
We choose to do this in a way that happens to be entertaining to us, and allows us to post like crazed dictators, because it makes us laugh.
Unfortunately, YOU are not seeing the bigger picture at all, because you don't READ what we are telling you (ok, granted, maybe that's cause I trolled you too hard).
You cannot tell me you believe it's "ok" for:
-miners to play AFK because game mechanics for it are outdated
-the above making macro miners indistinguishable from actual players
-the fact that miners are NOT the primary source of minerals
That you disagree with our methods for bringing this to the forefront, I don't give a damn about. But at least we are doing something, with people, MMO style.
You just sit there and patronize, because you are an old fart, and you can't wrap your brain around the more advanced concepts floating around here.
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Zxepa
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:17:00 -
[245]
Because the only way to ban the use of firearms is to actually go out and kill enough people in broad daylight for the government to finally take notice. You aren't protesting this is straight slaughter. Nice white wash though, hey! You even threw in a prize...how considerate.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:22:00 -
[246]
Edited by: Ran Khanon on 11/01/2010 13:24:02
Originally by: Zxepa
Because the only way to ban the use of firearms is to actually go out and kill enough people in broad daylight for the government to finally take notice. You aren't protesting this is straight slaughter. Nice white wash though, hey! You even threw in a prize...how considerate.
I think you got the point. That is EXACTLY how things work. With the slight addition that EVE is a game and allows for rented pixels and bits to be blown up as means to an end, whereas in real life an approach like that might be a tad askew :)
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:24:00 -
[247]
Originally by: Zxepa
Because the only way to ban the use of firearms is to actually go out and kill enough people in broad daylight for the government to finally take notice. You aren't protesting this is straight slaughter. Nice white wash though, hey! You even threw in a prize...how considerate.
Because EVE is like real life? amirite?
clueless.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:32:00 -
[248]
I'm well chuffed you consider me to be a "Chribba lite"... nice one , ta very much I'm sure.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:40:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Zill
I'm well chuffed you consider me to be a "Chribba lite"... nice one , ta very much I'm sure.
I'm gonna have to staple a note to your forehead that reads "Helicity is trying to nerf post-concord security" before you get it, aren't I?
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Zxepa
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:41:00 -
[250]
urite
CCP is a business and underneath that thick, callous and stubborn failtroll is fail exterior I'm sure you have the least bit of common sense. I'm glad to know you think it's your personal responsibility to tell CCP how to run their own business. Take into consideration that you're actually f****** with their profit. A very high majority of miners are alts that are funded with PLEX's that are bought from CCP by players to again..sell to the miner alts. If they can't mine to make cash they can't buy the PLEXs from players who buy from CCP.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 13:47:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Zxepa
urite
CCP is a business and underneath that thick, callous and stubborn failtroll is fail exterior I'm sure you have the least bit of common sense. I'm glad to know you think it's your personal responsibility to tell CCP how to run their own business. Take into consideration that you're actually f****** with their profit. A very high majority of miners are alts that are funded with PLEX's that are bought from CCP by players to again..sell to the miner alts. If they can't mine to make cash they can't buy the PLEXs from players who buy from CCP.
Miners should matter, and suicide ganking should not pay insurance.
Neither is true right now, and I'm doing my best and putting in a large amount of effort to bring it to people's attentions.
I chose to do this in characterful and amusing fashion, with ample warning beforehand, tips on how to not become a statistic and invitations to others to try and stop us (which could prove to be entertaining to them!).
What people do with it after that, is no longer my problem or concern.
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Seralder
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Posted - 2010.01.11 14:08:00 -
[252]
Edited by: Seralder on 11/01/2010 14:09:36
"Fit an hulk to 25+ EHP and you still have a very expensive, very BAD at mining and fancy killmail.
Fit a covetor for maxed mining yield (if it dies who cares) and you get more or less the same yield, but with a worthless killmail off an insurance-free ship."
lol... dont forget Exhumer Boni... With Exhumer V you got 15% Mining Bonus
(Exhumers Skill Bonus:
3% better yield for Strip Miners per level)
i mining very bad? ok... but bether than to blow up and poddet?
told the "You mine Bad with so mutch HP", to all hulkageddon hulks... now he can mining 200mio ISK & Imps... whats bether? 1 week with 31K EHP Ubertank or blowed up hulk + POD + Imps?
Normal Armor Tank Mode you got 1 MLU (9% Mining) and 1 DC... you gtt 20K+ HP (27K EHP with thermodynamics + fleetboni)... in normal situation (not hulkageddon) you got enough armor vs random ganks in highsec down to 0.6. you mine bether than a convetor with Exhumer V and only 1 MLU2 with DC2... got more HP and you Imps are saver...
but wait: its not YOUR fault to mine 9% more and die with 6k HP Hulk LOL...
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Snasty
Caldari
The Hippies
House of Mercury
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Posted - 2010.01.11 14:10:00 -
[253]
I was looking forward to all this, looked a bit different and interesting initially.
However, having read through several pages of this thread I have to register my dissapointment. It seems to be simply griefing the least able to put up a fight and lots of chest thumping on the forums.
All a bit dull thankyouverymuch.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.01.11 14:10:00 -
[254]
Zill: 'I have been playing eve for 6 years and still don't get it. Nor do I attempt to view things from another perspective to see if I'm missing the point. You all suck.'
Zxepa: 'I don't get it either, but I'll just argue anyway. It's not like I know what I'm talking about and nor does anyone else'
Zill: 'What a good post you've made, Zxepa. Since you agree with me, that automatically means your post is correct in every single way whatsoever. Everyone who disagrees with me is childish and immature and blablabla, but you're not, since you agree with me'
Everyone else: '...'
Helicity: 'I'm getting trolled omg'
Sums it up correctly?
Originally by: salva dore
Cloak should not be AFK solution.
What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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Fhuul Hardee
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Posted - 2010.01.11 14:11:00 -
[255]
Some participants might consider themselves evil pirates, but most see it for what it is - shooting fish in a barrel. Bloated, slow moving, inattentive carp suckling on ice and rocks all day no less. Anyone who spent any bit of time watching how they operate could easily avoid becoming a statistic and continue mining in peace - I've been spectating for a few days now, and have yet to come across an attack in progress. Just lines of boring exhumers and barges moving from rock to rock in most of the systems I've sat in.
Those of you throwing up your arms and succumbing to the idea of being a helpless carp aren't thinking outside the box enough. "Fighting back" doesn't need to involve firing a single shot, or hiring mercs to chase people around all day as they try to jump into high sec for the next kill.
There's a channel that some of the participants are organizing in - how about logging into it and watching to see if your system or even your name is mentioned?
There's a killboard being updated with every attack - why not keep an eye on it to see what systems the more prolific attackers are focusing on?
Are you watching local?
Do you have friends posted at the gates scouting for you?
Have you swapped out your fittings for something a little hardier?
Do you have logistics ships handy that can top up your armor and shields, in case someone is waiting to finish a failed attempt?
I think the "true pvp" minded folks would actually appreciate a little more cat and mouse in this event, and there's more than enough intelligent miners around to deliver. It's just a matter of summoning some willpower to do more than pi$$ and moan about it.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.01.11 14:17:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Fhuul Hardee
Stuff
What you posted has pretty much been said by everyone else in this and other threads. The standard responses so far have been:
a. Why should I be responsible for my own safety?
b. Why should I work with others?
c. Why shouldn't Hisec be 100% safe?
d. Why should I lower my effectiveness even though I know others are out to get me?
e. But it's not fair!!
Just don't bother with anymore advice, since the ones that actually listen have already done so, and what's left is idiots and trolls who will never get it or argue for the sake of arguing, respectively.
Originally by: salva dore
Cloak should not be AFK solution.
What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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Jedi Deus
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Posted - 2010.01.11 14:38:00 -
[257]
Originally by: AterraX
Originally by: Jedi Deus
b. Uses role-playing as an excuse for violating the guidelines regarding fair play with others.
There is NOTHING in the EULA about fairplay
What "guidelines" are you talking about?
Sure you didn't confuse this with this?
Nice try but pointless, YOU MEAN THIS, just like forum rules. It's so moderated like the game right... Perhaps you would like to go thru and pick out how many break Terms of Service just in this thread and defend them also.
Tho you did not defend that it's "Grief Play" which also looks official... Perhaps you should reconsider your trolling effort. It IS the purpose that it distinctly conflicts with rules and game policies which makes it just well... Pathetic.
Perhaps you are correct, it's in the Suspension and Ban Policy as noted. Considering the millions in revenue, server stability, and policy enforcement. I think eve is on the brink of just going F2P.
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Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2010.01.11 14:38:00 -
[258]
[Hulk, Tanked]
Power Diagnostic System II
Damage Control II
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Notes:
-I haven't seen a single Hulk with a DCU.
-I've seen exhumers go from 0 tank to at least some sort of tank in less than 1 week.
Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Salena Tarra
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Posted - 2010.01.11 14:56:00 -
[259]
Edited by: Salena Tarra on 11/01/2010 14:56:50
Originally by: Zxepa
Edited by: Zxepa on 11/01/2010 13:01:07
I don't give a damn to what you've said i don't give a damn about your opinion.
Originally by: Zxepa
Edited by: Zxepa on 11/01/2010 13:01:07
You're a dude under a chicks portrait with a bad case of superiority complex and an assbackwards agenda.
^Stupid.
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Scarry Peak
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Posted - 2010.01.11 15:02:00 -
[260]
Edited by: Scarry Peak on 11/01/2010 15:02:21
Time for my fast-becoming-ritual note on the forums.
I am a "carebear" miner and I docked up my hulky, switched down to a cheap and cheerful covetor that will have a good home with my 2nd account main.
I have also hung out in the chat channel since HAG II began. I haven't ganked anyone - but I've chatted when occasion has allowed to a bunch of new people and from Helicity and above from Jones Bones, I've actually got some great tank fit suggestions for my hulk and as Helicity commented when I was chatting in channel "you won't go out un-tanked again"... which I won't.
For every complaint about lost "income" there are ... ooohh... about a hundred things you could do in Eve. Sure - I haven't been able to play "my game" as much this week - but that's no bad thing either... I see no difference between a week's vacation versus a week of keeping my pixelated ship indoors.
TL;DR?
Thanks for the tips on tanking - especially from Helicity in channel chat and the fit above from Jones. Useful info for when I get the hulk out again. next corp mining op is... tank testing.
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Xtover
Suicide Kings
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Posted - 2010.01.11 15:45:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Zill
Boston son, your not clever falsifying posts by me, grow up a little mate seriously.. your just being silly. I understand your young an in reality its not easy for you restrain yourself, but your childish antics are quite sad.
You are neither tough, nor are you correct in your dribble, so why keep it up son. ? really take a break an think a little.
Read it again. The very point you are missing is in there. Go on I'll quote it for you:
"Trying to get insurance after concord death nerfed on purpose"
See? Did you read it this time or are your eyes still full of brine from fishing?
We are addressing several things here:
-mining is a worthless profession due to mineral influx from other sources and mass macro mining. We believe miners SHOULD be important instead
-miners are mistaken in their belief they should be perfectly safe and never fit defenses on their ships or are permanently AFK
-insurance after concord death is stupid, and needs to be removed. (actually all insurance should be removed, but that is a topic too lengthy to discuss here)
We choose to do this in a way that happens to be entertaining to us, and allows us to post like crazed dictators, because it makes us laugh.
Unfortunately, YOU are not seeing the bigger picture at all, because you don't READ what we are telling you (ok, granted, maybe that's cause I trolled you too hard).
You cannot tell me you believe it's "ok" for:
-miners to play AFK because game mechanics for it are outdated
-the above making macro miners indistinguishable from actual players
-the fact that miners are NOT the primary source of minerals
That you disagree with our methods for bringing this to the forefront, I don't give a damn about. But at least we are doing something, with people, MMO style.
You just sit there and patronize, because you are an old fart, and you can't wrap your brain around the more advanced concepts floating around here.
I love you. Let's make babies.
How can anyone not see this?
The mineral market needs to be FIXED. Suiciding/self destructing dreads and BSs for a profit exposes a flaw in the artificial ceiling/floor that insurance and unnamed T1 mission drops provide.
This needs to be fixed as soon as possible and Zill... you're just an idiot who can't see through his own tears.
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w1ldt4ngent
SWARTA
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Posted - 2010.01.11 15:59:00 -
[262]
Between this thread, Joe Phoenix, and No.Mercy/AB-C, I'm running out of popcorn... 
Honestly, I don't see what's so bad about downgrading to a Covetor for a week. A week in a T1 barge won't kill you. If you think you're too good for that and end up losing a Hulk instead, that's your problem IMO.
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Rannarl
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Posted - 2010.01.11 16:06:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
You cannot tell me you believe it's "ok" for:
-miners to play AFK because game mechanics for it are outdated
-the above making macro miners indistinguishable from actual players
-the fact that miners are NOT the primary source of minerals
That you disagree with our methods for bringing this to the forefront, I don't give a damn about. But at least we are doing something, with people, MMO style.
Ok ok people, I think IÆm starting to see maybe what Helicity was aiming for here
YouÆre right no one wants to see macroing be ok and miners should be the primary source of minerals, Thing is Helicity your event targeted all miners and made no effort not do to do so and in turn you stirred up the hornets nest so any political message you may have had for the high sec community has been ignored because youÆve p*ssed so many people off and if you canÆt see that then youÆre perhaps not as bright as you see yourself, what a terrible way to make a statement! ôI hate macro and afk miners, I hate the fact miners arenÆt the primary source of mineralsàLETS KILL EM ALL!1!!1ö
As a miner myself I want nothing more than those macro miners to go to hell, it means more minerals and more profit for me but I wouldnÆt declare war on the entire mining community to try and solve this problem, that lacks logic. What you should have done is try and involve the none macro miners somehow, instead you targeted everyone and it was seen as mindless griefing thus your credibility to the miners who you claim should æmean somethingÆ is gone.
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Thronde
United Systems Navy
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.11 16:14:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Rannarl
Ok ok people, I think IÆm starting to see maybe what Helicity was aiming for here
YouÆre right no one wants to see macroing be ok and miners should be the primary source of minerals, Thing is Helicity your event targeted all miners and made no effort not do to do so and in turn you stirred up the hornets nest so any political message you may have had for the high sec community has been ignored because youÆve p*ssed so many people off and if you canÆt see that then youÆre perhaps not as bright as you see yourself, what a terrible way to make a statement! ôI hate macro and afk miners, I hate the fact miners arenÆt the primary source of mineralsàLETS KILL EM ALL!1!!1ö
As a miner myself I want nothing more than those macro miners to go to hell, it means more minerals and more profit for me but I wouldnÆt declare war on the entire mining community to try and solve this problem, that lacks logic. What you should have done is try and involve the none macro miners somehow, instead you targeted everyone and it was seen as mindless griefing thus your credibility to the miners who you claim should æmean somethingÆ is gone.
Newsflash, Hulkageddon IS mindless hunting of miners, regardless of afk-ness or not. It isn't about a political message, it's about the cross-empire slaughter of miners (Hulks and Exhumers in specific) for the sake of "lowlife scum" entertainment. It IS NOT about fixing:
-Insurance
-Macroers
-AFK Mining
-Jet Can Mining
-High Sec Minerals
-Miners NOT being primary means of minerals
It IS about:
-LULz
-See Above.
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Rannarl
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Posted - 2010.01.11 16:26:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Thronde
Newsflash, Hulkageddon IS mindless hunting of miners, regardless of afk-ness or not. It isn't about a political message, it's about the cross-empire slaughter of miners (Hulks and Exhumers in specific) for the sake of "lowlife scum" entertainment. It IS NOT about fixing:
-Insurance
-Macroers
-AFK Mining
-Jet Can Mining
-High Sec Minerals
-Miners NOT being primary means of minerals
It IS about:
-LULz
-See Above.
Not according to the person who organised all this ;)
You see Helicity when you involve people like this things are bound to go to pot lol
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Blue Dragon
Ion Corp.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 16:28:00 -
[266]
Edited by: Blue Dragon on 11/01/2010 16:28:40
Originally by: Spins Meats
QFT.
Elaborating slightly, applying the concept of 'opportunity cost' to suicide ganking, if we assume that I gank 4 hulks in an hour (absolute max you can do on one character in highsec), and wind up with a bunch of expanded cargohold 2s and not much else to show for it, I'm 20 to 30 million ISK worth of opportunity cost in the hole.
There is real (economic) risk in suicide ganking.
/Meats
What would be your total loss per ship, if there was no insurance at all?
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 16:45:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Rannarl
Not according to the person who organised all this ;)
You see Helicity when you involve people like this things are bound to go to pot lol
It's about whatever they like for them, I'm perfectly fine with that as it coincides with my own agenda.
Beyond that, let us consult my Care-o-Meter:
CARE-O-METER
E[||-------]F
Yeah I'm mostly ok with that.
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.01.11 16:49:00 -
[268]
Edited by: Dacryphile on 11/01/2010 16:49:51
For Zill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnO5CkYyAU8
Originally by: Doc Robertson
...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Wikjaar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:08:00 -
[269]
Edited by: Wikjaar on 11/01/2010 17:10:06
Edited by: Wikjaar on 11/01/2010 17:08:46
Originally by: Dacryphile
Edited by: Dacryphile on 11/01/2010 16:49:51
For Zill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnO5CkYyAU8
You remind me of the drones who follow schoolbullies. When someone is getting beaten you go around there to cheer up and watch. Too scared to never
be human, so the force wont turn up against you =P
About this event i can say that this is ****** beyond anything. I have had only one honest and good answear why someone is doing this and it was the "because we can" and thats a good reason. The ones who are trying to explain some higher purposes about griefing should get a clue and realise that griefing even if its named "happytime" is still griefing. I dont have a hulk, i just fly by my measly covetor =) And i allready have survived by one gank attack, it wouldnt be even a big loss cause covetor is well insured. But the thing that most makes my spine chill is the frikking laughable toughguy attitude
all you gankgers are expressing "lol carebear tears" "this is a cold and hars EVE" "i make you miserable" uhuuu i am internet toughguy lol.
I am just saying what the **** dudes .... do you even read what you are posting. If this is EVE community at its best i dont want to see the worst of it =|
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.01.11 17:27:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Wikjaar
Edited by: Wikjaar on 11/01/2010 17:10:06
Edited by: Wikjaar on 11/01/2010 17:08:46
Originally by: Dacryphile
Edited by: Dacryphile on 11/01/2010 16:49:51
For Zill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnO5CkYyAU8
You remind me of the drones who follow schoolbullies. When someone is getting beaten you go around there to cheer up and watch. Too scared to never
be human, so the force wont turn up against you =P
About this event i can say that this is ****** beyond anything. I have had only one honest and good answear why someone is doing this and it was the "because we can" and thats a good reason. The ones who are trying to explain some higher purposes about griefing should get a clue and realise that griefing even if its named "happytime" is still griefing. I dont have a hulk, i just fly by my measly covetor =) And i allready have survived by one gank attack, it wouldnt be even a big loss cause covetor is well insured. But the thing that most makes my spine chill is the frikking laughable toughguy attitude
all you gankgers are expressing "lol carebear tears" "this is a cold and hars EVE" "i make you miserable" uhuuu i am internet toughguy lol.
I am just saying what the **** dudes .... do you even read what you are posting. If this is EVE community at its best i dont want to see the worst of it =|
Welcome to C&P
You realize that you are in the lion's den, right? The C&P community =/= the EVE community as a whole but a very ... special ... part of it :) Has been like this forever. It's like that one notorious pub in that dimly lit back-alley where the police only show up in bullet proof vests and with at least 3 cars.
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.01.11 18:29:00 -
[271]
Edited by: Dacryphile on 11/01/2010 18:31:44
Originally by: Wikjaar
Edited by: Wikjaar on 11/01/2010 17:10:06
Edited by: Wikjaar on 11/01/2010 17:08:46
Originally by: Dacryphile
Edited by: Dacryphile on 11/01/2010 16:49:51
For Zill:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnO5CkYyAU8
You remind me of the drones who follow schoolbullies. When someone is getting beaten you go around there to cheer up and watch. Too scared to never
be human, so the force wont turn up against you =P
About this event i can say that this is ****** beyond anything. I have had only one honest and good answear why someone is doing this and it was the "because we can" and thats a good reason. The ones who are trying to explain some higher purposes about griefing should get a clue and realise that griefing even if its named "happytime" is still griefing. I dont have a hulk, i just fly by my measly covetor =) And i allready have survived by one gank attack, it wouldnt be even a big loss cause covetor is well insured. But the thing that most makes my spine chill is the frikking laughable toughguy attitude
all you gankgers are expressing "lol carebear tears" "this is a cold and hars EVE" "i make you miserable" uhuuu i am internet toughguy lol.
I am just saying what the **** dudes .... do you even read what you are posting. If this is EVE community at its best i dont want to see the worst of it =|
Your tears are tasty too.
Originally by: Doc Robertson
...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Barga Hi'che
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Posted - 2010.01.11 18:55:00 -
[272]
i am a carebear, i don't mind hulkageddon at all because a) i read the forums so knew it was coming and b) didn't undock either of my accounts that mine whilst tis is going on. Also i do watch my lasers cycle over both my accounts and am thankful that somebody is kiing the macro's and Afk'rs cos i wouldn't have a clue where to start :)
This does not need fixing as nothing is broke imo
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Simvastatin Montelukast
Qui dormit non peccat
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Posted - 2010.01.11 19:19:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Barga Hi'che
i am a carebear, i don't mind hulkageddon at all because a) i read the forums so knew it was coming and b) didn't undock either of my accounts that mine whilst tis is going on. Also i do watch my lasers cycle over both my accounts and am thankful that somebody is kiing the macro's and Afk'rs cos i wouldn't have a clue where to start :)
This does not need fixing as nothing is broke imo
^^
This, totally this. Helicity only took about a month to organize, promote, and generally just take over the entire 1st page of C&P. I have lots of friends who knew nothing about Hulkageddon, and I warned them. My entire corp has kept their shiney exhumers parked, because they were warned.
How the heck is giving you more than a months notice griefing?
I hear that hooked on phonics can help with that reading problem.
Great job with Hulkageddon Helicity, and all those that participated.
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Wikjaar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 20:08:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Simvastatin Montelukast
^^
This, totally this. Helicity only took about a month to organize, promote, and generally just take over the entire 1st page of C&P. I have lots of friends who knew nothing about Hulkageddon, and I warned them. My entire corp has kept their shiney exhumers parked, because they were warned.
How the heck is giving you more than a months notice griefing?
I hear that hooked on phonics can help with that reading problem.
Great job with Hulkageddon Helicity, and all those that participated.
I give you little example. Lets say that miners could get little flying mining bores that cost about 1mil a piece. They would be super awesome mining bores and they could bore to ships hulk like a hot knife in butter. Then all the miners decide that "lulz i are really tuff eve player lets be cool and yaw and all" and miners do an event that last a week where its supposed to just grief all non miners the bigger the grief the better. Then miners fly with their little mining bores straight to the low sec and see some proteus flying dude and just bore his ship to pieces and when thats done they bore his pod too cause thats like lulz and all and stuff and cause miners are reallu tuffguys and all and **** =P Then when the guy flying the 222mil proteus says what the **** thats not fair how you could destroy my ship without no risk to you.. i just lost 200mil and you lost nothing. And miners are like yhyy lulz you carebear l2play nab put some armor to you armor so you can armor while you armor and **** and stuff or park your ships for week and fly missions and do pvp with your catalyst =).
Do you see where i am going with this ? =D
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Neyro7830
Gallente
The 5th Freedom
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 20:09:00 -
[275]
Edited by: Neyro7830 on 11/01/2010 20:10:00
I don't see anything wrong with this, but I do feel bad for the poor ******* who doesn't read the forums, curls up with a book to mine and comes back to a pod in a belt.
I'm a softy I guess.
Ed: sch muck is censored? wtf?
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 20:52:00 -
[276]
They aren't doing this cos of some "higher calling" its a simple gank an spank "I'm a cool dudez" greifing session. YOU are NOT doing this to force CCP's hand at all you know your not, all your trying to do is get people to see you as some sort of game changing guru.
I love how the possie come on here an anyone that disagrees or likes to shine truth on what they are doing, is called "stupid, noob,fool,idiot.... blah blah what are you, 12?
Everyone knows its for nothing more than grief, so all your grandstanding at "doing it for the people" is bull ****.
I have not missed a single point of any of your posts btw, I just don't see it as worth my time to point ot your hypocrisy.
I will say I find you're ego to be a little more than you can pay for when you are telling us how to play the game an demanding we adapt to you or go play wow etc....
Changing your story half way through on why your doing this rubbish is amusing to say the least. ASll you have done is "try" an belittle an shout down anyone that disagrees.
Sorry son but that doesn't work in real life an it doesnt work online either.
You may not like me or those who point out the truth but facts remain,
1.you want everyone to conform to your demand of how EvE should be
2.you dont tolerate anyone els idea that EvE for them is fun as a miner.
3.Your demanding Miners nerf themselves in some BS attempt to defend against your griefing
4. You refuse to accept any consequence for your actions by saying "we are doing this for you"..... you're not, you're doing it for YOU.
5.Camping in places like Todaki an killing day one new players in rooki ships is NOT forcing CCP to pay attention to you, it is only to run them out of game so you can laugh an chest beat to your little possie at how good you are.
As to me, thinking I don't get how the game works is laughable at best, I also find it funny that in every single MMO that promotes free play you lot are exactly same, you turn feral at the slightest chance an attempt to force the game down the avenue you choose. It never varies one iota lol.
Now I am sure you'll call me some silly school yard name an try to belittle my comments but since we all know the truth already I think we both understand your wasting everyones time.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 20:54:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Zill
*snip*
Two days later and you're still a clueless bint, give it up.
You suck, nobody likes ya, and you couldn't motivate a live frog out of a blender.
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Lieff
Over Dosed
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Posted - 2010.01.11 20:57:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Zill
stuff
Who is griefing? Nobody is that I can see.
There are just some players blowing up other players internet spaceships.
Which is a valid and fine way of playing the game.
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Dracoknight
Strategic Syndicate
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:00:00 -
[279]
I think you need to read the EULA before even mentioning the word "griefer"... .
seriously though, this is a pvp game with pve possiblilities, there is nothing in this game preventing you from killing another, only reason to why people dont get nuts in high sec is because of the penalty of doing so, but it doesnt really stop them...
Also Hulkageddon is awsome, aslong my alt keeps its hulk docked ^^
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:04:00 -
[280]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Zill
*snip*
Two days later and you're still a clueless bint, give it up.
You suck, nobody likes ya, and you couldn't motivate a live frog out of a blender.
lol I've met plenty of chav wanna be's like you, your not that hard.
You have been told by multiple adults that your smoke about doing it for them is a lie, you know it is, we know it is an yous till just stamp your feet hold your breath an call people names...
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:12:00 -
[281]
Originally by: Zill
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Zill
*snip*
Two days later and you're still a clueless bint, give it up.
You suck, nobody likes ya, and you couldn't motivate a live frog out of a blender.
lol I've met plenty of chav wanna be's like you, your not that hard.
You have been told by multiple adults that your smoke about doing it for them is a lie, you know it is, we know it is an yous till just stamp your feet hold your breath an call people names...
You're such a cutie pie, and above all not a whole lot older than I am "big man"
You've been explained by a ton of adults that you don't have a clue, but like a knucklehead, you're still here \o/
The difference between persistent and stupid is made manifest in your persona.
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Omgah
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:12:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Zill
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Zill
*snip*
Two days later and you're still a clueless bint, give it up.
You suck, nobody likes ya, and you couldn't motivate a live frog out of a blender.
lol I've met plenty of chav wanna be's like you, your not that hard.
You have been told by multiple adults that your smoke about doing it for them is a lie, you know it is, we know it is an yous till just stamp your feet hold your breath an call people names...
Should I share that address you gave me? Wonder what some of these chav wann be's might do with it. Even if it isn't your real address its someones.
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holy bjesus
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:22:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Omgah
Originally by: Zill
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Zill
*snip*
Two days later and you're still a clueless bint, give it up.
You suck, nobody likes ya, and you couldn't motivate a live frog out of a blender.
lol I've met plenty of chav wanna be's like you, your not that hard.
You have been told by multiple adults that your smoke about doing it for them is a lie, you know it is, we know it is an yous till just stamp your feet hold your breath an call people names...
Should I share that address you gave me? Wonder what some of these chav wann be's might do with it. Even if it isn't your real address its someones.
Hope you enjoy the ban.
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Mysty Doofoff
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:23:00 -
[284]
Thanks Hulkageddon II,
I lost 12,000,000 pounds of Macro Miners on the Helicity diet !!!
After working with Helicity and her team of experts I have whole belts of Ore to eat without worrying about 23/7 munchers robbing me of my well earned ore.
All I have to do is pay attention !
Dont AFK ! Helicitay !
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Tralna Minita
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:24:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Zill
Hyperbole
All your posts should include the following Warning: Contains self-rigteous indignation and tears.
Also accusations of death threats with no evidence, which by the way is something that those you are defending as being the victims are guilty of, and we at least have some evidence of it. Griefing is when a person consistently launches personal attacks against a single individual and absolutely is a banable offence. You are playing Eve, a game in which no one is safe. Well sorry if you think that this whole thing just isn't cricket but you have no defence other than banging your fist on the table and hoping you make a loud enough noise as to drown out any logic.
Sorry but it isnt working.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:27:00 -
[286]
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 21:34:43
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 21:33:04
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 21:30:04
Edited , pointless sparing with teenagers. If you choose to spread my brothers addy around, please do, It would be humorous to see any aussie show up on the doorstep.
it is interesting to see though, you "experts" see yourselves as such heroes of the people, I didn't know ego's can get so high.... impressive. Other than that I think we have covered all arguments an outcomes, everyone knows where everyone stands.
oh an minita, I value my word above most things, if I state something it's generally regarded as fact. but good try.
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Borgh Brainbasher
Path of Now and Forever
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:32:00 -
[287]
991, *squeeels with excitement*
keep it up guys!
Quote:
you are on the pvp only server
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:33:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Borgh Brainbasher
991, *squeeels with excitement*
keep it up guys!
Surely you mean 993
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Khalia Nestune
Sleeper Asset Relocation Services
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:35:00 -
[289]
I would like to see this become a yearly, or even a quarterly event. Would be so good for Eve
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Dracoknight
Strategic Syndicate
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:35:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 21:33:04
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 21:30:04
Edited , pointless sparing with teenagers. If you choose to spread my brothers addy around, please do, It would be humorous to see any aussie show up on the doorstep.
it is interesting to see though, you "experts" see yourselves as such heroes of the people, I didn't know ego's can get so high.... impressive. Other than that I think we have covered all arguments an outcomes, everyone knows where everyone stands.
You seem to never get the point now do you...
perhaps you could join my old friend "Joe Phoenix" he is just as stuborn and stupid as you
And making yourself look older than us "teenagers" just make yourself look like an older fool, not any smarter...
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:37:00 -
[291]
Hell, at this point I may just do it more often for the sake of watching Zill flail around and pretend he knows what he is talking about!
It's some truly high-quality whinge-and-binge he is leaking all over the floor.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:42:00 -
[292]
if you call showing your little group up as nothing but griefers who abuse the game mechanics, sure.... You an I both know this wouldn't even be talked bout happening if the insurance problem wasn't there. But I see you are not going to give up on your silly rants when I prove you wrong or state the blindingly obvious. So I would say I am done wasting my time an might go play some EvE.
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Dracoknight
Strategic Syndicate
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:45:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Zill
if you call showing your little group up as nothing but griefers who abuse the game mechanics, sure.... You an I both know this wouldn't even be talked bout happening if the insurance problem wasn't there. But I see you are not going to give up on your silly rants when I prove you wrong or state the blindingly obvious. So I would say I am done wasting my time an might go play some EvE.
They are not abusing a mechanic, however avoiding concord punishment is a abuse, but managing to kill something is not...
Also you still abuse the word "Griefer" and you are more likely into getting reported for off topic and flaming.
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Juwi Kotch
Fiat Iustitia
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:47:00 -
[294]
Edited by: Juwi Kotch on 11/01/2010 21:48:09
Well ... I'm allergic against mining lasers, I don't mine, I never have. So I have never owned a mining barge, and I'm not affected by this at all. I'm a producer, and live from producing things to replace things which have been destroyed. So I should be happy with that.
But all I see in my mind is helpless miners falling victim to a ruthless and sociopathic horde of bullies and thugs, laughing their butt off at the misery and grief of the weaklings they could ambush.
Maybe it is that I never can forget, that there are real people behind the pilots steering their ships in this universe. That these are human beings who have spent lots of effort and time to be able to do what they are doing. Maybe it is that I don't forget, that I'm a human among humans.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:51:00 -
[295]
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 21:51:39
Originally by: Dracoknight
Originally by: Zill
if you call showing your little group up as nothing but griefers who abuse the game mechanics, sure.... You an I both know this wouldn't even be talked bout happening if the insurance problem wasn't there. But I see you are not going to give up on your silly rants when I prove you wrong or state the blindingly obvious. So I would say I am done wasting my time an might go play some EvE.
They are not abusing a mechanic, however avoiding concord punishment is a abuse, but managing to kill something is not...
Also you still abuse the word "Griefer" and you are more likely into getting reported for off topic and flaming.
Na Draco I was really just attempting to show them their hypocrisy, but as usual they don't get it, so I am done beating a dead horse. It really just isn't important enough to take up my time anymore, I'd rather just play eve with the other 90% who don't read forums. I don't "get into" being reported by the way mate, but if they want to do so I see no issues with it....
All forums are same, as are forum attitudes by an large.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 21:55:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 11/01/2010 21:51:39
Originally by: Dracoknight
Originally by: Zill
if you call showing your little group up as nothing but griefers who abuse the game mechanics, sure.... You an I both know this wouldn't even be talked bout happening if the insurance problem wasn't there. But I see you are not going to give up on your silly rants when I prove you wrong or state the blindingly obvious. So I would say I am done wasting my time an might go play some EvE.
They are not abusing a mechanic, however avoiding concord punishment is a abuse, but managing to kill something is not...
Also you still abuse the word "Griefer" and you are more likely into getting reported for off topic and flaming.
Na Draco I was really just attempting to show them their hypocrisy, but as usual they don't get it, so I am done beating a dead horse. It really just isn't important enough to take up my time anymore, I'd rather just play eve with the other 90% who don't read forums. I don't "get into" being reported by the way mate, but if they want to do so I see no issues with it....
All forums are same, as are forum attitudes by an large.
Are you done yet? nobody is gonna feel sorry for the chewing out you are getting.
you talk about exploits where there are none, you talk about griefing when there isn't any.
You have no credibility, you contribute nothing to the game, you're just wasting bandwidth.
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Calkota
Retribution. Inc.
E-P-O-C-H
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Juwi Kotch
Maybe it is that I never can forget, that there are real people behind the pilots steering their ships in this universe. That these are human beings who have spent lots of effort and time to be able to do what they are doing. Maybe it is that I don't forget, that I'm a human among humans.
Not really. Almost all of them are macro miners. 15 minutes after the timer ends, and they are still sitting at the belt in their pod.
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Juwi Kotch
Fiat Iustitia
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:01:00 -
[298]
Edited by: Juwi Kotch on 11/01/2010 22:01:23
Originally by: Calkota
Not really. Almost all of them are macro miners. 15 minutes after the timer ends, and they are still sitting at the belt in their pod.
Well, in this case, I correct my mindset. I despise macroers even more than bullies and thugs.
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Asuri Kinnes
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:04:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Zill
Stuff/More Stuff & LOTS -O- STUFF
Do you have any idea of how Eve started? It started out as nothing but 0.0 space. No concord, no security status, no gate guns, no station guns, no rules and no laws.
CCP attracted about 30K subscriptions with that. Needing more to make Eve profitable, they have done MORE to nerf combat between players than they ever have to encourage it. Which leads us to today.
Hi sec is just that. High Security Space. At no point, can any of you guys crying about this show me anywhere, where CCP Devs, GMs or staff have said anything about Hi-Sec being "SAFE - SEC".
At no point, can any of you guys show where anyone has been:
a. warned
b. temp banned
c. banned
for any of the conduct that has gone on while engaged in Hulkageddon. And if someone does get banned, it will have been for something besides killing exhumers in Hi-Sec...
Do you guys REALLY think that CCP / Devs don't know about this?
I am willing to bet that there is at least one, maybe more of CCP staff taking part in this!
Originally by: Snasty
I was looking forward to all this, looked a bit different and interesting initially.
However, having read through several pages of this thread I have to register my dissapointment. It seems to be simply griefing the least able to put up a fight and lots of chest thumping on the forums.
All a bit dull thankyouverymuch.
Et tu, Snasty?
Originally by: Zxepa
<snippage>
HULKS with multiple BATTLESHIPS. Thank you
Three Destroyers, not cruisers, not battle-cruisers and not Battleships... Get over yourself.
http://hulkageddon2.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=details&kill=1308
Originally by: Zill
lol thinker, at least your honest.
The more I talk to the "people" in this forum the more I understand why I love going to sea for a month at a time
Thank god I read the part where he said he was a fisherman... I was worried that he might be in some nations Navy...
JUST a little heads up to you Zill - Most of the people that play Eve are above 20, so your teenagers cracks really fall short.
FYI #2 - I'm almost 50, and totally was *not* going to take part in this event, but after reading you guys whine?
I'm all in.
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Lady Spank
Amarr
Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:08:00 -
[300]
Edited by: Lady Spank on 11/01/2010 22:10:04
EDIT: 2 to go...
Well done everyone, lets celebrate...
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JaseNZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:10:00 -
[301]
Originally by: Zill
Boston son, your not clever falsifying posts by me, grow up a little mate seriously.. your just being silly. I understand your young an in reality its not easy for you restrain yourself, but your childish antics are quite sad.
You are neither tough, nor are you correct in your dribble, so why keep it up son. ? really take a break an think a little.
Firstly, it's You're, not your.
Secondly, if their antics are so childish, why aren't you ignoring them?
Seems to me you're being baited, and you're falling for it...so, who's the childish one, really?
You have to try and have the last word? Sorry Bubba, ain't gonna happen as long as you let an internet spaceship game wind you up like this...people are just gonna keep going and going to see how far they can push you, making you look like an ass in the process heh.
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Juwi Kotch
Fiat Iustitia
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:13:00 -
[302]
Originally by: JaseNZ
You have to try and have the last word? Sorry Bubba, ain't gonna happen as long as you let an internet spaceship game wind you up like this...people are just gonna keep going and going to see how far they can push you, making you look like an ass in the process heh.
Unfortunately, that's true.
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Ticarus Hellbrandt
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:16:00 -
[303]
Originally by: Juwi Kotch
Edited by: Juwi Kotch on 11/01/2010 21:48:09
Well ... I'm allergic against mining lasers, I don't mine, I never have. So I have never owned a mining barge, and I'm not affected by this at all. I'm a producer, and live from producing things to replace things which have been destroyed. So I should be happy with that.
But all I see in my mind is helpless miners falling victim to a ruthless and sociopathic horde of bullies and thugs, laughing their butt off at the misery and grief of the weaklings they could ambush.
Maybe it is that I never can forget, that there are real people behind the pilots steering their ships in this universe. That these are human beings who have spent lots of effort and time to be able to do what they are doing. Maybe it is that I don't forget, that I'm a human among humans.
A real person who pays to enter this environment no less!
Real life doesnt come into it, A human is mortal, A pod pilot is immortal. Isk is made and isk is lost.
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Golden Helmet
Caldari
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:17:00 -
[304]
Its over ONE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!!!
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:17:00 -
[305]
ONE THOUSAND DEAD EXHUMERS \o/
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Zxepa
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:18:00 -
[306]
Cool story how three destroyers dealing 1891 damage managed to kill a Hulk with an EHP of 7,374 at 0 skills. Lrn2truncate m0ar better.
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Hugo Lordmagnus
Caldari
Vexillari
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Hugo Lordmagnus on 11/01/2010 22:18:59
Originally by: Helicity Boson
ONE THOUSAND DEAD EXHUMERS \o/
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Tzigan Jegos
Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:20:00 -
[308]
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Tesha
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:22:00 -
[309]
Who is the leading atm? i find the homepage very confusing
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:27:00 -
[310]
Woohoo, gratz guys :)
Anyone want to try a guess on the % of macro miners amongst them?
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:28:00 -
[311]
What was the prize for the thousandth exhumer pwned?
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NyteTyger
Gallente
NiteSun Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:31:00 -
[312]
\o/
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Dacryphile on 11/01/2010 22:35:07
Here is 1000! WOOOOOO Awesome job everyone!
lol @ 3 civilian shield boosters. Who is teaching these guys how to tank?
Originally by: Doc Robertson
...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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The Crushah
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:34:00 -
[314]
Im so proud of my fellow EVE dirtbags
Hypothetical question tho: If youre the only one that "Gets It", does that make you enlightened or a moron?
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JaseNZ
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:38:00 -
[315]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
ONE THOUSAND DEAD EXHUMERS \o/
Damn, you have some pic graphics skills heh.
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SetrakDark
Caldari
DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:42:00 -
[316]
gratz
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L4zor R0B0T
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:45:00 -
[317]
1000 dead exhumers... never thought we'd reach this many. Well done holy warriors. Our jihad shall continue now and forever... for we have discovered that killing brainless miners and podding them is not just incredibly fun, it can be quite profitable as well. God willing, every last infidel will burn in a holy fire which consumes the entire galaxy.
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Tzigan Jegos
Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:46:00 -
[318]
200 pods too! And being high sec, they most likely had good implants on them. Is there a figure of total ISK damage done so far, including a guesstimate of implants cost?
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 22:48:00 -
[319]
Originally by: Tzigan Jegos
200 pods too! And being high sec, they most likely had good implants on them. Is there a figure of total ISK damage done so far, including a guesstimate of implants cost?
Well over 240 billion...not counting implants.
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Leocadminone
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Posted - 2010.01.11 23:03:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Snake Doctor
I have a feeling this will somehow incur the wrath of CCP and their nerfbat.Perhaps yet another buff to Concord.
Somehow.
Bet they nerf insurance payout for concorddokken.
That change to come was announced by a CCP dev over a year ago.
It has not happened.
It is overdue.
It won't stop squads of suicide DD gankers - but it might reduce their numbers a little over time - as suicide DDs are cheap.
It probably WOULD reduce the count of suicide Battleships a LOT, as those are NOT cheap.
It is a long overdue change - the way insurance works now, there is essentially NO RISK for typical suicide gankers as very close to their entire cost, or sometimes their entire cost PLUS a bit, is paid by insurance.
Suicide ganking won't go away entirely though as long as CCP insists on making a mockery of the entire "High Security Space" concept with their current game mechanics.
IMO a change they have NOT made and SHOULD is to not allow free access anywhere to highsec to "outlaws" that happen to be flying a pod (or by report a newbie ship, but I've not actually seen that myself). That would give the "security status" of a character some REAL teeth when you get too low.
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Leocadminone
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Posted - 2010.01.11 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Helicity Boson
you talk about griefing when there isn't any.
Actually, Hulkageddon is all about griefing. I don't shed any tears for the macro farmers and ISK farmers that are getting greifed, but I do feel sorry for the folks that live mine and are getting griefed.
This is the sort of thing that caused Ultama Online to spend 3 years with a rapidly-shrinking user base, after it started having competiton - only to have the UO folks reinvision UO with the Tramell shards and start seing their userbase GROW (with a small burp when WoW was released) for 7+ years now since then.
The original UO was much like early Eve - no place outside of teh cities was safe from PvP and ganking/griefing - the current is more like most other MMORGS, it's all about beating the GAME not harrassing other players you don't even know for no reason other than "you can".
Longtime UP players predicted the "death of UO" when the Tramell shards were first announced to be in the works - funny how they proved to be completely wrong, as the LARGE majority of existing UO players moved to the Tramell shards as soon as they could.
Eve likes to brag about their "one server" records - but they conveniently ignore or refuse to face the fact that Eve Online is a VERY SMALL BLIP on the MMORG landscape, and will remain such and will remain ABLE to be served by one server because CCP actively encouraged griefing and ganking and scamming with their game mechanics and rules. There will come a day that Eve stops growing, because there aren't enough potential new players that don't already KNOW what Eve is like or have never heard about it to sustain the existing playerbase - at which point Eve will be a tiny MMORG that is shrinking instead of a tiny MMORG that is showing very slow growth DESPITE a huge advertising budget (by the standards of any MMORG except WoW) to try to draw in new players.
Mabey thats they way CCP wants it. Mabey it is not. But if they ever except Eve to achieve the POTENTIAL greatness it could achieve, they're doomed to failure as long as they actively encourage ganking and grieving in ALL areas the game is played in.
Not that I expect to change any minds of Hulkageddon participants, much less organisers, with FACTS and observed history of what was the closest game to what Eve is now in most respects.
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Spectre3353
Gallente
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.11 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Leocadminone
It is a long overdue change - the way insurance works now, there is essentially NO RISK for typical suicide gankers as very close to their entire cost, or sometimes their entire cost PLUS a bit, is paid by insurance.
I agree with you here. It is stupid to think that an insurance company would pay people for suiciding ships at law enforcement both realistically and in the context of the game play and balance in Eve.
Originally by: Leocadminone
Suicide ganking won't go away entirely though as long as CCP insists on making a mockery of the entire "High Security Space" concept with their current game mechanics.
IMO a change they have NOT made and SHOULD is to not allow free access anywhere to highsec to "outlaws" that happen to be flying a pod (or by report a newbie ship, but I've not actually seen that myself). That would give the "security status" of a character some REAL teeth when you get too low.
I disagree with you here. Highsec isn't a "mockery" or "broken" just because it isn't how you want it to be. Highsec works just fine. People with negative security statuses are already severely punished and inconvenienced by the current system and there is no reason to make it any worse.
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Magnus Nordir
Caldari
Nordir Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.11 23:21:00 -
[323]
Originally by: Leocadminone
wall of text
tl;dr
eve is dying, unless it turns into wow
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Dracoknight
Strategic Syndicate
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.11 23:31:00 -
[324]
Helicity... that poster is now my background, i will worship it from now and until Ragnarhulk is apon us
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Troggor
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Posted - 2010.01.11 23:48:00 -
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You guys shouldnt have wasted all that money buying hulks and mining barges for alternate accounts to blow up... But hey its your iskies... Also sorry about blowing up those idiots in Dessies trying to break my hulks tank.. Got my first Pvp kill Thanks
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.12 00:19:00 -
[326]
Originally by: Magnus Nordir
eve is dying, unless it turns into wow
Yeah, World of Hulkaggedoncraft.
Instead of level 80s beating up low levels we have combat ships taking on unarmed civilians.
Sure the City Guards, sorry CONCORD, take revenge, but with lovely insurance there is no loss to the ganker. All that the ganker has to do is corpse run back to his home, wait out the PvP flag, sorry GCC, and set forth to gank again.
And we have achievements in the World of Hulkaggedoncraft too, this is just perfect.
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RyanSnake
Caldari
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.01.12 00:32:00 -
[327]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Magnus Nordir
eve is dying, unless it turns into wow
Yeah, World of Hulkaggedoncraft.
Instead of level 80s beating up low levels we have combat ships taking on unarmed civilians.
Sure the City Guards, sorry CONCORD, take revenge, but with lovely insurance there is no loss to the ganker. All that the ganker has to do is corpse run back to his home, wait out the PvP flag, sorry GCC, and set forth to gank again.
And we have achievements in the World of Hulkaggedoncraft too, this is just perfect.
Just look at what you're saying though. Those other games have these things embedded into the game via developer input.
The things happening here are player-run and player created. How many MMOs have you played with a community as active and creative as this one?
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Tralna Minita
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Posted - 2010.01.12 00:40:00 -
[328]
Originally by: Leocadminone
Mabey thats they way CCP wants it. Mabey it is not. But if they ever except Eve to achieve the POTENTIAL greatness it could achieve, they're doomed to failure as long as they actively encourage ganking and grieving in ALL areas the game is played in.
I really despise your comments here. Eve is already a great game and can become a better one without turning mainstream like UO apparently did in a last money grabbing bid to save their game. Seriously Go Back To WoW...
Oh and sorry to go all grammar police on your ass but its spelt maybe. I used to have trouble spelling it when I was in primary school as well, I used to spell it mabe and all kinds of crazy stuff.
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Bacchanalian
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.01.12 00:52:00 -
[329]
Originally by: RyanSnake
Originally by: Banana Torres
The things happening here are player-run and player created.
Ding ding ding. Give this man a cigar. Events like this one are what makes EVE EVE. Not just for the propagation of the dangerous universe, not just for the explosions, but for the large-scale, server-wide coordination between players on an event thought up by, sponsored by, and run by players with no developer or CCP influence, participation, or impact. You won't find that anywhere else.
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Neurotica > Hate to see a GM in your gang say 'oops'
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.12 00:55:00 -
[330]
Originally by: RyanSnake
The things happening here are player-run and player created. How many MMOs have you played with a community as active and creative as this one?
It is just a pity that the best event that the players can come up with is gank the unarmed miner.
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Tzigan Jegos
Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.
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Posted - 2010.01.12 00:59:00 -
[331]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: RyanSnake
The things happening here are player-run and player created. How many MMOs have you played with a community as active and creative as this one?
It is just a pity that the best event that the players can come up with is gank the unarmed miner.
BS. They have drones.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:03:00 -
[332]
Originally by: Tzigan Jegos
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: RyanSnake
The things happening here are player-run and player created. How many MMOs have you played with a community as active and creative as this one?
It is just a pity that the best event that the players can come up with is gank the unarmed miner.
BS. They have drones.
Ok, Mr. Pedantic, it is a pity that the best event that the community can come up with mimics one of the worst aspects of World of Warcraft, the high levels ganking newbies.
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Bacchanalian
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:03:00 -
[333]
Originally by: Zxepa
Cool story how three destroyers dealing 1891 damage managed to kill a Hulk with an EHP of 7,374 at 0 skills. Lrn2truncate m0ar better.
You don't PvP very often, do you? If you did, you'd know that for years there's been a bug with the damage numbers on killmails. In fact, since they started putting that number on killmails. About 90% of the time it's incorrect, and a good chunk of that 90% has the numbers wildly, in fact unbelievably incorrect. If I could be arsed I could show you links to battleships dying to less than 5k damage, but I really can't be bothered.
Originally by: Juwi Kotch
Maybe it is that I never can forget, that there are real people behind the pilots steering their ships in this universe. That these are human beings who have spent lots of effort and time to be able to do what they are doing. Maybe it is that I don't forget, that I'm a human among humans.
Yikes. By that logic, we should all stop shooting at each other and stick to mining and ratting. EVE revolves around blowing up ships, and believe me, not everyone who loses their ship is engaging in PvP willingly, or doesn't take losing their ship as a punch in the gut. I've lost ships worth billions, and as a human being that spent lots of time and effort to be able to fly that ship, it felt like a punch in the gut. But that's EVE (and as a full-time pew-pewer, that's what I buy em for), and if that weren't the case, I'd probably never have quit playing WoW and come to EVE in the first place. I could just as easily PvP without consequences for anybody in Warsong Gulch if I didn't want a game where the stakes were high enough to mean something.
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Neurotica > Hate to see a GM in your gang say 'oops'
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:05:00 -
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Whose fault is it that the miner is unarmed (and usually untanked)?
Uh huh.
Go back to Nubscape for the sense of safety it must give you; this is EVE.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:09:00 -
[335]
Originally by: Bacchanalian
I could just as easily PvP without consequences for anybody in Warsong Gulch if I didn't want a game where the stakes were high enough to mean something.
Or you could suicide a mining barge in hisec with a fully insured battleship. That has about the same consequence as a WSG fight. You gain a little honor in one, loose a little sec status in the other.
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RyanSnake
Caldari
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:09:00 -
[336]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Tzigan Jegos
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: RyanSnake
The things happening here are player-run and player created. How many MMOs have you played with a community as active and creative as this one?
It is just a pity that the best event that the players can come up with is gank the unarmed miner.
BS. They have drones.
Ok, Mr. Pedantic, it is a pity that the best event that the community can come up with mimics one of the worst aspects of World of Warcraft, the high levels ganking newbies.
I'm not "high level". I have under 2m SP, yet I have 8 kills on record with the HGII website. ;D
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:12:00 -
[337]
Originally by: RyanSnake
I'm not "high level". I have under 2m SP, yet I have 8 kills on record with the HGII website. ;D
I helped with some of those, too! (Innocent, Jihada)
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Tzigan Jegos
Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:15:00 -
[338]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Tzigan Jegos
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: RyanSnake
The things happening here are player-run and player created. How many MMOs have you played with a community as active and creative as this one?
It is just a pity that the best event that the players can come up with is gank the unarmed miner.
BS. They have drones.
Ok, Mr. Pedantic, it is a pity that the best event that the community can come up with mimics one of the worst aspects of World of Warcraft, the high levels ganking newbies.
That happens in all MMOs and real life too. There's 2 kinds of people, those who get bullied and call their mom to school and those who get bullied and learn how to defend themselves, fight back or hide from/evade the bully. Personally I think one kind deserves more respect than the other. It's the same with miners. They wear "kick me" signs, i.e. no tank, not even DCUs, not to mention shield bonusing command ships or logistics drones/ships. They don't watch local, they don't watch the close range scanner, they don't keep aligned, heck most of them aren't even properly BTK. And this all happens during a forum advertised event about killing miners in hi sec.
If you ask me, they have it coming. And now they call for their CCPmom. Feh.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:15:00 -
[339]
Originally by: Mara Tessidar
Originally by: RyanSnake
I'm not "high level". I have under 2m SP, yet I have 8 kills on record with the HGII website. ;D
I helped with some of those, too! (Innocent, Jihada)
So, you ganged up on a miner, very brave. About as brave as a level 80 taking on a level 55 in WoW. Get the point yet?
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:20:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Tzigan Jegos
That happens in all MMOs and real life too. There's 2 kinds of people, those who get bullied and call their mom to school and those who get bullied and learn how to defend themselves, fight back or hide from/evade the bully. Personally I think one kind deserves more respect than the other. It's the same with miners. They wear "kick me" signs, i.e. no tank, not even DCUs, not to mention shield bonusing command ships or logistics drones/ships. They don't watch local, they don't watch the close range scanner, they don't keep aligned, heck most of them aren't even properly BTK. And this all happens during a forum advertised event about killing miners in hi sec.
woot, nice straw man argument there.
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Tzigan Jegos
Dirty Gypsies Trading Co.
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:25:00 -
[341]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Tzigan Jegos
That happens in all MMOs and real life too. There's 2 kinds of people, those who get bullied and call their mom to school and those who get bullied and learn how to defend themselves, fight back or hide from/evade the bully. Personally I think one kind deserves more respect than the other. It's the same with miners. They wear "kick me" signs, i.e. no tank, not even DCUs, not to mention shield bonusing command ships or logistics drones/ships. They don't watch local, they don't watch the close range scanner, they don't keep aligned, heck most of them aren't even properly BTK. And this all happens during a forum advertised event about killing miners in hi sec.
woot, nice straw man argument there.
Quite.
Your point was that bullying is wrong and it's sad to see it happening in EVE as in WOW. I just went on a little tangent trying to show that bullying can have positive consequences for the bullied. Unless, of course, they do nothing but cry for mom, i.e. CCP.
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:27:00 -
[342]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Mara Tessidar
Originally by: RyanSnake
I'm not "high level". I have under 2m SP, yet I have 8 kills on record with the HGII website. ;D
I helped with some of those, too! (Innocent, Jihada)
So, you ganged up on a miner, very brave. About as brave as a level 80 taking on a level 55 in WoW. Get the point yet?
We don't do bravery or honor here, we do Last Mand Alive Gets Everyone Else's Stuff. If you don't the idea of that, or of the idea of non-consensual PvP, I suggest you find another game like Hello Kitty Adventure Mining. This is EVE. People die. Ships are lost. Get over it.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: lollerwaffle on 12/01/2010 01:40:38
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: RyanSnake
The things happening here are player-run and player created. How many MMOs have you played with a community as active and creative as this one?
It is just a pity that the best event that the players can come up with is gank the unarmed miner.
AFAIK, other player driven events have happened, and will be organized in the future, and this is just one of them, which just so happens to focus on an activity you don't particularly like (boohoo). How about you come up with something better? No? I guess some people just have a whiny disposition.
edit: Forgot, congratulations on the 1000 kills. In 4 days too, that's pretty impressive. Keep it up and let's see OVER 3000 kills :)
Originally by: salva dore
Cloak should not be AFK solution.
What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:39:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Mara Tessidar
We don't do bravery or honor here, we do Last Mand Alive Gets Everyone Else's Stuff. If you don't the idea of that, or of the idea of non-consensual PvP, I suggest you find another game like Hello Kitty Adventure Mining. This is EVE. People die. Ships are lost. Get over it.
Strange, I could have sworn I was a Privateer before the nerf.
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:43:00 -
[345]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Mara Tessidar
We don't do bravery or honor here, we do Last Mand Alive Gets Everyone Else's Stuff. If you don't the idea of that, or of the idea of non-consensual PvP, I suggest you find another game like Hello Kitty Adventure Mining. This is EVE. People die. Ships are lost. Get over it.
Strange, I could have sworn I was a Privateer before the nerf.
Oh hi, let's wardec a bunch of empire dwelling noobs. Don't worry we'll undock our ninety billion RR alts while we station hug. Erm... OK, Mr. Privateer...
Originally by: salva dore
Cloak should not be AFK solution.
What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.12 01:47:00 -
[346]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Mara Tessidar
We don't do bravery or honor here, we do Last Mand Alive Gets Everyone Else's Stuff. If you don't the idea of that, or of the idea of non-consensual PvP, I suggest you find another game like Hello Kitty Adventure Mining. This is EVE. People die. Ships are lost. Get over it.
Strange, I could have sworn I was a Privateer before the nerf.
I'm not surprised you left, I have yet to meet a successful pirate who doesn't consider the notion of "Honor" about as alien as a Zergling.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.12 02:02:00 -
[347]
Originally by: Mara Tessidar
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Mara Tessidar
We don't do bravery or honor here, we do Last Mand Alive Gets Everyone Else's Stuff. If you don't the idea of that, or of the idea of non-consensual PvP, I suggest you find another game like Hello Kitty Adventure Mining. This is EVE. People die. Ships are lost. Get over it.
Strange, I could have sworn I was a Privateer before the nerf.
I'm not surprised you left, I have yet to meet a successful pirate who doesn't consider the notion of "Honor" about as alien as a Zergling.
Now you have just made yourself look very stupid.
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Shade Millith
International House of PWNCakes
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Posted - 2010.01.12 02:19:00 -
[348]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Mara Tessidar
We don't do bravery or honor here, we do Last Mand Alive Gets Everyone Else's Stuff. If you don't the idea of that, or of the idea of non-consensual PvP, I suggest you find another game like Hello Kitty Adventure Mining. This is EVE. People die. Ships are lost. Get over it.
Strange, I could have sworn I was a Privateer before the nerf.
Rather amusing hearing e-honour from a ex-privateer.
I guess all the neut RRing on Jita 4-4 while ganking solo targets got to your head
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Ekon Bor
Amarr
Van Diemen's Demise
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Posted - 2010.01.12 02:35:00 -
[349]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Tzigan Jegos
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: RyanSnake
The things happening here are player-run and player created. How many MMOs have you played with a community as active and creative as this one?
It is just a pity that the best event that the players can come up with is gank the unarmed miner.
BS. They have drones.
Ok, Mr. Pedantic, it is a pity that the best event that the community can come up with mimics one of the worst aspects of World of Warcraft, the high levels ganking newbies.
Look, I'm sorry, but I don't think that's an holistic reflection of what the community can come up with sans dev input like other games. I'd argue that events like the parade for the Clear Skies guy, the rapid-assemblage of Forces of Chribba (or whatever it's called) show other aspects of what the community can come up with. I'd point at people who offer decent advice in the help channel and in NPC corps as another example of positive community involvement, and there are lots of these.
At the end of the day, Hulkageddon has killed a lot of hulks (spectacular count btw) but the overall numbers of hulks probably haven't been affected in any meaningful way - although not for lack of trying. There will be a short term impact on prices, caused as much, I expect, on people buying in anticipation as much as a real absence of supply of hulls. The macro-miners, well, zero sympathy from me. There are of course a lot of live miners who got hit (I only got one hulk myself, but I'm damn sure he was live  ) but it's generally not the end of the world for most of them. Some will quit, no doubt - but at the end of the day the peak user numbers keep going up. The death of Eve looks greatly exaggerated, imho.
I take the point about that was made re UO but generally it's the lack of any restraint that kills these things. No one can keep things like Hulkageddon going forever on this scale, the sec status mechanics make it too hard. Eventually the level of suicide ganking will fall back to it's normal background level as a fairly rare occurence; the good pvper's will go back to their normal business of nullsec/lowsec and the bad ones will go back to shooting my bloody cyno alts, the bastards.. and when that happens no doubt the macros will return in force, the survivors will be smarter (and, for a short time richer as the macro competition declines) and the noobs will continue piling in till next year comes around and it's time again to cull the sick, the weak and the plain unlucky.
And you never know, it may attract people. Surely for every potential player that says "damn, I can't afk grind for pretend money so sod that" there will be one who says "hand me the keys to a rifter, that sounds less ***** than the elves thing"?
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SetrakDark
Caldari
DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.12 03:39:00 -
[350]
Originally by: Ekon Bor
Surely for every potential player that says "damn, I can't afk grind for pretend money so sod that" there will be one who says "hand me the keys to a rifter, that sounds less ***** than the elves thing"?
Sums it up nicely.
AFK miners quit and...
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Jedi Deus
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Posted - 2010.01.12 03:54:00 -
[351]
Really... and just how long does it take to train up a character to gank?
Point is seems too many people are bored with the game and retaliate on other players in some show of HA HA.
The trash talk is phenomenal to support suggested Grief Play if you take a minute and read.
Of course CCP doesn't care, the more expensive in game is the more they make out of game...right?
I mean if you can't make your PLEX this month cause of so called "events" guess you have to pay for it 'eh.
Surely we can find some real reasoning here. You can slow down thier gameplay cause
1. you want or can't take the time to develop useful character skills
2. jealous of thier determined abilities and you don't have the stature to hang in there yourself
3.
Blasphemy really, there is no reasoning. Simply shows the nature of man on a virtual scale. No pride, no honor, just brats really. Whole buncha cancer victims with pinheaded egos just ready to be a prick. Carry on
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Intense Thinker
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.12 03:57:00 -
[352]
Originally by: Jedi Deus
Really... and just how long does it take to train up a character to gank?
Point is seems too many people are bored with the game and retaliate on other players in some show of HA HA.
The trash talk is phenomenal to support suggested Grief Play if you take a minute and read.
Of course CCP doesn't care, the more expensive in game is the more they make out of game...right?
I mean if you can't make your PLEX this month cause of so called "events" guess you have to pay for it 'eh.
Surely we can find some real reasoning here. You can slow down thier gameplay cause
1. you want or can't take the time to develop useful character skills
2. jealous of thier determined abilities and you don't have the stature to hang in there yourself
3.
Blasphemy really, there is no reasoning. Simply shows the nature of man on a virtual scale. No pride, no honor, just brats really. Whole buncha cancer victims with pinheaded egos just ready to be a prick. Carry on
I do it for 4:
Originally by: a51 duke1406
The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
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Ekon Bor
Amarr
Van Diemen's Demise
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Posted - 2010.01.12 04:01:00 -
[353]
Originally by: Jedi Deus
...Of course CCP doesn't care, the more expensive in game is the more they make out of game...right?
I mean if you can't make your PLEX this month cause of so called "events" guess you have to pay for it 'eh.
...
Sorry - Wrong, wrong, wrong, incorrect, wrong and also erroneous.
If you earn enough to buy plex with isk, you have to buy it off someone who paid cash for it. There is no way to get time, without cash entering CCP. It might not be you who pays that cash, but someone has to. It makes absolutely no difference to their cashflow - as long as you stay, they're fine. It doesn't matter if you and I both buy GTCs, or if I buy two and sell you one for isk. CCP still get paid. What CCP want, is for you to stay.
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Igotta MagicJohnson
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Posted - 2010.01.12 05:15:00 -
[354]
Why are people blaming Helicity?
He merely brought up the idea. I'm pretty sure he didn't Charlie Sheen 1000 Hulks (at time of writing).
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Jedi Deus
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Posted - 2010.01.12 05:20:00 -
[355]
Originally by: Ekon Bor
Edited by: Ekon Bor on 12/01/2010 04:10:50
Originally by: Jedi Deus
...Of course CCP doesn't care, the more expensive in game is the more they make out of game...right?
I mean if you can't make your PLEX this month cause of so called "events" guess you have to pay for it 'eh.
...
If you earn enough to buy plex with isk,
I think this is the keywords to the phrase and comment.
Oh well, conspiracy or not. It is still lame, there could be in game events to stir it up besides encouraging players to flaunt thier playground mouth bash and grievance attitudes towards others.
Oh my bad, it's called WAR AND SOVEREIGNTY
Can't waite to get there and have real goal PvP. Which a lot of these carebear pirate wanna be PvP players will likely never be envolved in.
Simple if you aren't going to uphold the Policies then let the players do it and stop giving false guidelines to follow.
Also, There is nothing real world about suicide "Ganking". Do I need to include definitions here?  I'm out.
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Z'Pax
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Posted - 2010.01.12 06:37:00 -
[356]
While I love the idea of wholesale carnage, this whole thing is nothing more than bullying. If defined as such its Harrasment of a whole player ethic.
No matter how much spin griefers put on it that's all it is.
ccp always go on about how they want this cold harsh universe, and a number of people keep prattling on about being smart wont get you popped.
1, If the cold harsh universe isn't fun for everyone people will stop playing.
2, People are stupid... period.
For those advocating and enjoying this event
From the banning section of the eula...
3. HARASSMENT
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if a player:
* a. Organizes or participates in a corporation or group that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies.
carebears are a player type and group (love it or hate it), and there are countless examples of anti carebear hate mongering in this thread. Carebears are the weakest players in EVE, but this organized hunt is sadly too much.
Gloss over it with all the spin you wan't, if ccp lose hundreds of subs over this they are within there rights to ban every participant of Hulkaggedon if they kneejerk reaction to a mass quitting of carebears.
hmm maybe thats Helicities agenda, get insurance and miners sorted in game while getting all the griefers banned....
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 06:46:00 -
[357]
Yes, yes, YES!
Cry some more! Dont take any responsibility for your own safety! Whine, unsubscribe your 54 accounts!
EVE becoming like wow? Only because of people like you!
Now, grab the lube, Helicity and the boys are coming round your houses \o/
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Z'Pax
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Posted - 2010.01.12 06:50:00 -
[358]
Is that a threat to invade my home and gang **** me?
Should of just left it at threatening/actually destroying ships in game.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 06:55:00 -
[359]
Originally by: Z'Pax
Is that a threat to invade my home and gang **** me?
Should of just left it at threatening/actually destroying ships in game.
Don't be preposterous LOL.
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.01.12 07:14:00 -
[360]
Originally by: Z'Pax
For those advocating and enjoying this event
From the banning section of the eula...
3. HARASSMENT
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if a player:
* a. Organizes or participates in a corporation or group that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies.
carebears are a player type and group (love it or hate it), and there are countless examples of anti carebear hate mongering in this thread.
I think you are taking that way out of context. Hulkageddon is hardly a hate-mongering philosophy, nor is it anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, or sexist. If you look at the context of the rule, it is obviously toward groups like the *** (3 Ks in a row) existing in game, not a week long gank fest against so called "defenseless miners."
Constant, never ending attack of all girl corps, yanks, or the Minmatar Gay Rights League may get a petition for griefing, and the perpetrators would probably get a warning. Actual hate groups would get banned. A one week, non discriminatory attack against T2 mining barges, regardless of the pilots ethnicity, sexual orientation, religion, race, or sex will not fall within the context of that rule.
Originally by: Doc Robertson
...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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The Crushah
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.12 07:15:00 -
[361]
Originally by: Z'Pax
Is that a threat to invade my home and gang **** me?
Should of just left it at threatening/actually destroying ships in game.
What did you just call my sister?
Reported!
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Feisty Kitten
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Posted - 2010.01.12 07:21:00 -
[362]
Originally by: Z'Pax
overdone whine
mmmm your tears taste so good |
Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 07:23:00 -
[363]
The more you weep, THE MORE I WIN.
In what game can you take 5 million isk in CSPA charges, turn it into 10bil in prizes and destroy well over a thousand ships... using only words?
EVE.
I love this sh-
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eddie valvetino
Caldari
Wrath of Fenris
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Posted - 2010.01.12 07:23:00 -
[364]
Originally by: Z'Pax
While I love the idea of wholesale carnage, this whole thing is nothing more than bullying. If defined as such its Harrasment of a whole player ethic.
No matter how much spin griefers put on it that's all it is.
ccp always go on about how they want this cold harsh universe, and a number of people keep prattling on about being smart wont get you popped.
1, If the cold harsh universe isn't fun for everyone people will stop playing.
2, People are stupid... period.
For those advocating and enjoying this event
From the banning section of the eula...
3. HARASSMENT
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if a player:
* a. Organizes or participates in a corporation or group that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies.
carebears are a player type and group (love it or hate it), and there are countless examples of anti carebear hate mongering in this thread. Carebears are the weakest players in EVE, but this organized hunt is sadly too much.
Gloss over it with all the spin you wan't, if ccp lose hundreds of subs over this they are within there rights to ban every participant of Hulkaggedon if they kneejerk reaction to a mass quitting of carebears.
hmm maybe thats Helicities agenda, get insurance and miners sorted in game while getting all the griefers banned....
all i can hear is
"whaaaa whaaaa... bigger boys came, whaaa whaaaa"
(\_/)
(O.o)
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Z'Pax
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Posted - 2010.01.12 07:25:00 -
[365]
You lot are easier to bait than...
well carebears in hulks.
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Lucas Lucias
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Posted - 2010.01.12 08:03:00 -
[366]
I think that Helicity organised it just for fun because it could be done, Helicity then posted stuff to defend himself against another player who was only calling out players who were chest beating about being great PvP'rs in what one can only describe as a duck shoot competition and the impact on players they despised,. This possible result of changes to loot in level 4's and insurance is not the reason you set this up, you set it up for fun.
Anyone with a brain can work out that tanking a Hulk is not really going to do much, the only thing it does is give you a chance if the attackers screw up and the High Sec mechanics make proactive defence impossible. We tested the aligh times and warp times, we played with moving around asteroids to see the impact on this and in all our tests the tanked hulk died, we looked at the kill board and selected a mix of successful ships. The only thing that we did not asses was RR'ing a Hulk. Anyway best defence is mine in a 0.8 system, there is less risk until people are desperate for targets at the end of this competition.
But talk of banning people is silly, many of us found it a fun talking point and added excitement. I went and did some missions instead, I have only just got my Hulk so could not face losing it.
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Orugi Natsuko
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Posted - 2010.01.12 08:05:00 -
[367]
Originally by: Z'Pax
While I love the idea of wholesale carnage, this whole thing is nothing more than bullying. If defined as such its Harrasment of a whole player ethic.
No matter how much spin griefers put on it that's all it is.
ccp always go on about how they want this cold harsh universe, and a number of people keep prattling on about being smart wont get you popped.
1, If the cold harsh universe isn't fun for everyone people will stop playing.
2, People are stupid... period.
For those advocating and enjoying this event
From the banning section of the eula...
3. HARASSMENT
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if a player:
* a. Organizes or participates in a corporation or group that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies.
carebears are a player type and group (love it or hate it), and there are countless examples of anti carebear hate mongering in this thread. Carebears are the weakest players in EVE, but this organized hunt is sadly too much.
Gloss over it with all the spin you wan't, if ccp lose hundreds of subs over this they are within there rights to ban every participant of Hulkaggedon if they kneejerk reaction to a mass quitting of carebears.
hmm maybe thats Helicities agenda, get insurance and miners sorted in game while getting all the griefers banned....
It's not bullying, it's piracy.
Originally by: Bully/Bullying defined
bul+ly 1 (bl)
n. pl. bul+lies
1. A person who is habitually cruel or overbearing, especially to smaller or weaker people.
2. A hired ruffian; a thug.
3. A pimp.
4. Archaic A fine person.
5. Archaic A sweetheart.
v. bul+lied, bul+ly+ing, bul+lies
v.tr.
1. To treat in an overbearing or intimidating manner. See Synonyms at intimidate.
2. To make (one's way) aggressively.
v.intr.
1. To behave like a bully.
2. To force one's way aggressively or by intimidation: "They bully into line at the gas pump" (Martin Gottfried).
Originally by: Piracy defined
An illegal act of violence, depredation (e.g., plundering, robbing, or pillaging), or detention in or over international waters committed for private ends by the crew or passengers of a private ship or aircraft against another ship or aircraft or against persons or property on board such ship or aircraft.
Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms. US Department of Defense 2005.
The major difference is that the spirit of the EULA is to prevent "out of game" trespasses on players. Killing miners in high sec isn't a hateful act directed at people who like to mine to hurt them personally, or to intimidate them. It is an in-game act of piracy. In fact, your post fits more to the definiton of bullying. Specifically number 1 of the second paragraph, by trying to intimdate players out of playing their game a certain way by quoting "the banning section" "for those enjoying this event" and implying the event leader has a hidden agenda to get them all banned.
Generally, it's easier to ask someone else to change their behavior than to change your own. Asking people who like to gank miners to stop because they are ganking miners is easier than for the miners to learn how to fly their ship. You are far to dismissive about this aspect.
Also, I agree with the first post here. This event is totally great. Probably the most fun I've had in Eve since I started.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.12 08:06:00 -
[368]
Originally by: Leocadminone
Originally by: Helicity Boson
you talk about griefing when there isn't any.
Actually, Hulkageddon is all about griefing. I don't shed any tears for the macro farmers and ISK farmers that are getting greifed, but I do feel sorry for the folks that live mine and are getting griefed.
This is the sort of thing that caused Ultama Online to spend 3 years with a rapidly-shrinking user base, after it started having competiton - only to have the UO folks reinvision UO with the Tramell shards and start seing their userbase GROW (with a small burp when WoW was released) for 7+ years now since then.
The original UO was much like early Eve - no place outside of teh cities was safe from PvP and ganking/griefing - the current is more like most other MMORGS, it's all about beating the GAME not harrassing other players you don't even know for no reason other than "you can".
Longtime UP players predicted the "death of UO" when the Tramell shards were first announced to be in the works - funny how they proved to be completely wrong, as the LARGE majority of existing UO players moved to the Tramell shards as soon as they could.
Eve likes to brag about their "one server" records - but they conveniently ignore or refuse to face the fact that Eve Online is a VERY SMALL BLIP on the MMORG landscape, and will remain such and will remain ABLE to be served by one server because CCP actively encouraged griefing and ganking and scamming with their game mechanics and rules. There will come a day that Eve stops growing, because there aren't enough potential new players that don't already KNOW what Eve is like or have never heard about it to sustain the existing playerbase - at which point Eve will be a tiny MMORG that is shrinking instead of a tiny MMORG that is showing very slow growth DESPITE a huge advertising budget (by the standards of any MMORG except WoW) to try to draw in new players.
Mabey thats they way CCP wants it. Mabey it is not. But if they ever except Eve to achieve the POTENTIAL greatness it could achieve, they're doomed to failure as long as they actively encourage ganking and grieving in ALL areas the game is played in.
Not that I expect to change any minds of Hulkageddon participants, much less organisers, with FACTS and observed history of what was the closest game to what Eve is now in most respects.
Leocadminone Dont forget mate most of the eve population don't even come to the forums, these lads are not typical of the player base. Just the feral end who enjoy trying to be forum warriors. They like to think they can make people angry an talk themselves up.... all gaming forums are same as EvE's
The system wont change anytime soon.I don't honestly believe CCP are concerned about the system as it is, they set it up so the risk was one sided. Thus allowing the griefers to go to town. None of this was accidental in that they new the young ones would figure it out eventually an take advantage of it.
My spare time is valuable an I love to spend it in eve even with the system as it is, it's just sad that its in the state it's in.I can see a Trammel-esk system improving EvE dramatically but it's something I don't think CCP can or will do because it would mean dealing with the ranting an tantrums of the minority player base who are in all MMO's the most vocal an the most demanding. CCP wont want to go throguh that.
Btw Trammel was a long time coming, the entire game was mass hacks an warp scripts. Bullying, theft of accounts you name it. Groups of idiots roaming about killing everything in sight then bragging about it. Trammel fixed UO in my opinion. You can see CCP's attitude to all this in the simple fact they don't care bout the tempest griefers/gankers in 1.0 killing newbes as they start the game in Rookie boats.
The rod they made for their back is the fact the game is so one sided in its consequences. Changing it is a big conversion in the core mechanics of the game.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 08:21:00 -
[369]
Originally by: Zill
BLA
Except that the silent majority (all we can see on the forums is comedy loudmouths like me, and whining victims like you) is perfectly fine with how things are.
Everyone still logs in, everyone still plays, everyone BUT YOU is having fun.
Face it Zill, nobody wants the EVE that exists in your head, the people that want that sort of game play one of the dozens of other, "lossless" MMOs(and there is nothing wrong with that).
The only fools are the people straining against the very NATURE of the game they are playing.
If you don't like the rules of chess, go play checkers, you don't go whining on forums that the Queen's gambit or Sicilian defense are "unfair" and are "griefing" the way YOU want to play your game of chess.
Because that is what you are doing, no matter how many layers of babble you pack it in.
If CCP said today, suicide ganking is no longer allowed, I'd have no problem with that at all.
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Lightningshade
Caldari
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2010.01.12 08:42:00 -
[370]
Originally by: Zill
oh an minita, I value my word above most things, if I state something it's generally regarded as fact. but good try.
Who is it regarded as fact by? The noobs in Scope that you regularly attempt to dangle your Epeen in front of?
Thing is, even the miners that come to this thread, a large portion of them know whats going on. They know to be smart and adapt.
It seems that as the self proclaimed "one-eyed King" of The Scope really doesn't understand any of whats happeneing around you. Calling people "son" etc is there to once again attempt to elevate your position.
We get it by the way, you've done everything there is to do in Eve, and purely on the basis that your toon is old, that automatically makes you a perfect authority on the topics of everything. However, this only happens within your head.
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Faith Rains
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Posted - 2010.01.12 08:47:00 -
[371]
Congrats on 1000.
Still seems a lot more needs to be done though, could hardly undock in Ignebaener today, had to thread a path through half a dozen of the awful big miner barges clogging up the undocking points of the station.
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Lightningshade
Caldari
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2010.01.12 08:58:00 -
[372]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Tzigan Jegos
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: RyanSnake
The things happening here are player-run and player created. How many MMOs have you played with a community as active and creative as this one?
It is just a pity that the best event that the players can come up with is gank the unarmed miner.
BS. They have drones.
Ok, Mr. Pedantic, it is a pity that the best event that the community can come up with mimics one of the worst aspects of World of Warcraft, the high levels ganking newbies.
It requires more than noob skills to fly a hulk. Infact, my hulk/invention toon has around 8mil SP more than my yaarage toon. go figure.
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Ishihiro tanaka
Amarr
Enrave
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Posted - 2010.01.12 08:59:00 -
[373]
Originally by: Zill
...You can see CCP's attitude to all this in the simple fact they don't care bout the tempest griefers/gankers in 1.0 killing newbes as they start the game in Rookie boats....
In view of this thread, I don't think a hulk qualifies as a newb ship. On top of that, a hulk is easily fitted in such a way that you are quite easily capable of sitting through an attempted gank while Concord cleans house. Even with mediocre skills a miner should be able to fit a few shield extenders and resists to help him easily.
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Congrats on 1000.
Still seems a lot more needs to be done though, could hardly undock in Ignebaener today, had to thread a path through half a dozen of the awful big miner barges clogging up the undocking points of the station.
Go grab a smartbombing BS and clear the entry right up :)
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Faith Rains
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Posted - 2010.01.12 09:15:00 -
[374]
Originally by: Ishihiro tanaka
Go grab a smartbombing BS and clear the entry right up :)
I would if I could fly one, almost 100% invention/trade/reasearching on my character.
It wouldn't make much of a dent anyway though, there's often another 20-30 npc corp mackinaws and hulks in the 2 ice-belts there at peak times.
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Forranz
Malice.
Tentative Nature
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Posted - 2010.01.12 10:49:00 -
[375]
All these hulk losses and the botter in Yarebap (Sm2) is still there, botting away.
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El'Tar
Caldari
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.01.12 11:31:00 -
[376]
Only 2 days to go, genos got bored of this a few days ago but it seems the united is winning right now with final agony and the bastards competing for No. 2
Whoever I give the 3b to, I deserve a free pass if I ever jump into one of your camps imo
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Fernous
Gallente
Section Eight LLC
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Posted - 2010.01.12 11:45:00 -
[377]
Best Week of the season :D
Keep up the good work, Congrats on 1000
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Torncuff Lookout
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Posted - 2010.01.12 11:53:00 -
[378]
Why aren't you guys in Black Rise cleaning house? Same guys out here mining all day...
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Dracoknight
Strategic Syndicate
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.12 12:43:00 -
[379]
Zill, if what you have said until now even had the slightest bit of credibility the player counter at the server would be around 1k players by now...
But to your unfortunate babbleing there is just babble because the so-called "players-that-are-sick-of-ganking" is still hanging on to the game or quitted depending on how presistent they are, and isnt here whining like you.
You do have the same syndrome as Joe does, and that is making up facts and then shrug it off when people ask for proof, you claim you have people that have complained to you, we want proof.
Also, why in the hell does those people complain to YOU in the first place?
I have NEVER seen you before now, you is neither a regular on the forums, you have done nothing deserving acknowlegde of any kind... and then you burst in here telling us we are greifers, exploiters and the like, and then bursting all over the place pointing fingers with not even a slightest bit of knowledge of game mechanics...
Seriously Zill, quit this while you still can and lie low, otherwise i recommend you to read the IEEE stories of "Joe Phoenix" because in theory, you are doing the exact same thing: Being stuborn, Lying and Making your own "Justice"
Remember, even for "Greifers" or "Pirates" we know much more of this game than you might think.
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Asuri Kinnes
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2010.01.12 12:44:00 -
[380]
Originally by: Banana Torres
Originally by: Magnus Nordir
eve is dying, unless it turns into wow
Yeah, World of Hulkaggedoncraft.
Instead of level 80s beating up low levels we have combat ships taking on unarmed civilians.
Sure the City Guards, sorry CONCORD, take revenge, but with lovely insurance there is no loss to the ganker. All that the ganker has to do is corpse run back to his home, wait out the PvP flag, sorry GCC, and set forth to gank again.
And we have achievements in the World of Hulkaggedoncraft too, this is just perfect.
Yeah, them dam unarmed civilians are a ***** I tell you!
Got a warp-in on a Mack last night, five of us warp in (Catalyst Dessie gang). I came out >900 meters and thought "BANG!". Opened up along with everyone else. With the five of us pounding this "unarmed" miner, we all went pop, he never got below 30% shields...
Funny ****, we found one of the few who know how to fit their Hulk, so:
Miner 5
Us 0
Laughed my ass off! We all did! I can't remember the guys name, but I salute that unknown miner for making my night better!
You see? Un-Armed miners have this big friend that hangs around, and has like, super sensitive feelings of love for all his little hi-sec buddies...
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2010.01.12 12:44:00 -
[381]
Originally by: Z'Pax
Is that a threat to invade my home and gang **** me?
Should of just left it at threatening/actually destroying ships in game.
Don't be fatuous, Z'Pax...
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Zaqar
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2010.01.12 13:20:00 -
[382]
Originally by: Jedi Deus
brats
You guys keep saying stuff like this, but from where I stand, these so-called 'brats' (Helicity et al) seem to be pretty normal people, perfectly capable of communicating like adults. You and your sort, on the other hand seem to be mostly illiterate children, spouting your strange insults. Originally by: Jedi Deus
Whole buncha cancer victims
Yeah, like that. What's wrong with you?
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Winterjack
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Posted - 2010.01.12 13:30:00 -
[383]
Originally by: Zill
Get ready for the nerf bat bigtime, I cant wait to see Insurance go byby or pvp turned off all together in highsec. All down to you lot.
I'm a miner.. but I seriously despise this kind of attitude.
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I had to give a guy some ships other day when one of your heroes killed a first timer in his hulk, he had it less than 15 mins after working for 4 months to afford it.
4 months to get in a hulk, and he never once stumbled upon rule one of eve, that yours truly after 2 weeks knows by heart:
"Don't fly anything you can't afford to lose."
People were advertising hulkageddon all over the major hubs, and this 4 months player has not heard of it?
The miner population in belts in the last week dropped to near-zero, and he failed to wonder why or ask any question?
Well then, NOW he learned why there is rule nr.1, and why you should always be on your toes. I finally bought a retriever, managed to scrounge up the skills... and will not fly it for a while. Because I know HAG is here, and I know my mining barge needs to be kept safe for a while.
Whatever. This is not a game for the meek - you need to actively work for your safety.
One of the first things I learned in EVE is that you WILL lose your ship. It WILL happen, eventually.
If you can't live with this, maybe you should move on.
This said: no-cost suicide ganks are an anomaly that should not happen, and the overflooding of minerals, if there is such an overflooding, should be corrected.
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Grimveous
Minmatar
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.01.12 13:34:00 -
[384]
Am I going to get banned now? Im scared, hold me Hell
Lol
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Sharbaraz
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Posted - 2010.01.12 14:47:00 -
[385]
Sitting on vent when one of the newbs in our industrial corp asks why this guy Zill is calling them gankers in local cause they have a sec status of 0.0 and they were still in station.
When I double checked who it was, I laughed my ass off at how inept he is at threat assessment.
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O'Nizzle
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Posted - 2010.01.12 14:55:00 -
[386]
i wouldn't call this grief-play. it's a competition with an established objective.
the trash-talk and unoriginal, overused "your tears taste good" is simply just a lack of self-esteem.
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Lucas Lucias
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Posted - 2010.01.12 14:56:00 -
[387]
Originally by: Sharbaraz
Sitting on vent when one of the newbs in our industrial corp asks why this guy Zill is calling them gankers in local cause they have a sec status of 0.0 and they were still in station.
When I double checked who it was, I laughed my ass off at how inept he is at threat assessment.
I always wonder when people shoot the person and not the ideas that they are losing the argument, have you got anything else to add, perhaps Zill filled his pants once when he was a baby?
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2010.01.12 15:18:00 -
[388]
Don't worry, Zill. I have a Catalyst BPO. And a Coercer BPO. And a Thrasher BPO. And a Comorant BPO. I have enjoyed the brisk sales for this event, especially when prices surpassed the 1.5 million isk mark.
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Ninja Otaku
Caldari
Seven-Sigma
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Posted - 2010.01.12 15:23:00 -
[389]
Originally by: Winterjack
Whatever. This is not a game for the meek - you need to actively work for your safety.
One of the first things I learned in EVE is that you WILL lose your ship. It WILL happen, eventually.
If you can't live with this, maybe you should move on.
Quoted For Truth.
Eve is a hostile game. The Dev's have said it multiple times. They like it this way. It's the way Eve should stay. Hulkageddon to me is just another hop, skip, and jump in my pursuit of wealth.
Eve naturally weeds out the meek and leaves only the strong and hardened.
I am a miner. I applaud every successful gank and mourn every lossed Hulk. Hulkageddon does well to remind me that I am never safe, that I am always at risk, and it makes me stronger with every passing day.
*The Epic Fail*
(Just aspoladed an Indy)
Ninja: "Sir, Permission to 'yar' in local."
Boss: "Permission granted."
Ninja: "YAT!"
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Alarci
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Posted - 2010.01.12 15:28:00 -
[390]
Here is a challenge to you high sec heroes/ pirates.
If you think you are so brave and good in ganking exhumers and barges, why don't come and try to gank my hulk, you can find me most of the time mining in catch or providence.
Come on come and gank me i dare you , you bunch of cowards.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2010.01.12 15:35:00 -
[391]
Originally by: Lucas Lucias
I always wonder when people shoot the person and not the ideas that they are losing the argument
Ad Hominem it is latin, so it must be good.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 15:37:00 -
[392]
Originally by: Alarci
Here is a challenge to you high sec heroes/ pirates.
If you think you are so brave and good in ganking exhumers and barges, why don't come and try to gank my hulk, you can find me most of the time mining in catch or providence.
Come on come and gank me i dare you , you bunch of cowards.
Interwebz toughguy detected!
it's hardly suicide ganking in nullsec, is it?
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Sharbaraz
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Posted - 2010.01.12 15:39:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Lucas Lucias
Originally by: Sharbaraz
Sitting on vent when one of the newbs in our industrial corp asks why this guy Zill is calling them gankers in local cause they have a sec status of 0.0 and they were still in station.
When I double checked who it was, I laughed my ass off at how inept he is at threat assessment.
I always wonder when people shoot the person and not the ideas that they are losing the argument, have you got anything else to add, perhaps Zill filled his pants once when he was a baby?
I'm just posting something I found amusing about calling any player with a 0.0 sec status a griefer without bothering to actually see if they were a threat.
Btw your post is highly ironic... keep up with "shooting the person when you are losing that argument" as you put it
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El'Tar
Caldari
Genos Occidere
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Posted - 2010.01.12 15:39:00 -
[394]
Originally by: Alarci
Here is a challenge to you high sec heroes/ pirates.
If you think you are so brave and good in ganking exhumers and barges, why don't come and try to gank my hulk, you can find me most of the time mining in catch or providence.
Come on come and gank me i dare you , you bunch of cowards.
Sure
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Alarci
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Posted - 2010.01.12 15:48:00 -
[395]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Alarci
Here is a challenge to you high sec heroes/ pirates.
If you think you are so brave and good in ganking exhumers and barges, why don't come and try to gank my hulk, you can find me most of the time mining in catch or providence.
Come on come and gank me i dare you , you bunch of cowards.
Interwebz toughguy detected!
it's hardly suicide ganking in nullsec, is it?
No it isn't , but looking at the killboard you can't fail to notice that except those few killed inside a WH system only a dozen or so got killed in low sec or 0.0 space. Surely those people didn't even deserved to be ganked so why are they on the board. And yes i do understand exhumers are designed to mine in low and 0.0 sec so targeting them, you can have a discussion about there place in hight sec, but most retrievers and other barges are owned and used by relative new miners they don't deserve this act of terrorism
And second point would this be happening if insurance was nerfed so that there is no payout when being concorded. I don't think so, so in my honest opinion this all thing is a exploit
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Sharbaraz
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Posted - 2010.01.12 15:51:00 -
[396]
Originally by: Alarci
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Alarci
Here is a challenge to you high sec heroes/ pirates.
If you think you are so brave and good in ganking exhumers and barges, why don't come and try to gank my hulk, you can find me most of the time mining in catch or providence.
Come on come and gank me i dare you , you bunch of cowards.
Interwebz toughguy detected!
it's hardly suicide ganking in nullsec, is it?
No it isn't , but looking at the killboard you can't fail to notice that except those few killed inside a WH system only a dozen or so got killed in low sec or 0.0 space. Surely those people didn't even deserved to be ganked so why are they on the board. And yes i do understand exhumers are designed to mine in low and 0.0 sec so targeting them, you can have a discussion about there place in hight sec, but most retrievers and other barges are owned and used by relative new miners they don't deserve this act of terrorism
And second point would this be happening if insurance was nerfed so that there is no payout when being concorded. I don't think so, so in my honest opinion this all thing is a exploit
If you read the initial thread the only targets counted for the contest are exhumers.. so people ganking barges are doing it on their own.
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Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2010.01.12 15:52:00 -
[397]
Yeah because people are going to completely stop suicide ganking when Catalysts cost 800k to lose instead of 200k. If anyone insures them at the moment anyway....
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Lucas Lucias
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Posted - 2010.01.12 15:53:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Sharbaraz
I'm just posting something I found amusing about calling any player with a 0.0 sec status a griefer without bothering to actually see if they were a threat.
Btw your post is highly ironic... keep up with "shooting the person when you are losing that argument" as you put it
I have seen the ridicule technique used many times in business and in forums, but I could have been mistaken on your intent, if so I apologise, it started off with people attacking his PvP record and moved on from there in other posts. I would guess that he is now very rattled...
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Sharbaraz
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Posted - 2010.01.12 16:00:00 -
[399]
Edited by: Sharbaraz on 12/01/2010 16:01:48
Originally by: Lucas Lucias
Originally by: Sharbaraz
I'm just posting something I found amusing about calling any player with a 0.0 sec status a griefer without bothering to actually see if they were a threat.
Btw your post is highly ironic... keep up with "shooting the person when you are losing that argument" as you put it
I have seen the ridicule technique used many times in business and in forums, but I could have been mistaken on your intent, if so I apologise, it started off with people attacking his PvP record and moved on from there in other posts. I would guess that he is now very rattled...
apology accepted. Like I said I just found it amusing to go around calling anyone with a 0.0 status a ganker without doing any background.
My newbs found it very offensive and it is counter productive to his intentions to mislabel groups
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Jason Marusic
Gallente
Sankkasen Mining Conglomerate
On the Rocks
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Posted - 2010.01.12 16:01:00 -
[400]
Originally by: Alarci
Here is a challenge to you high sec heroes/ pirates.
If you think you are so brave and good in ganking exhumers and barges, why don't come and try to gank my hulk, you can find me most of the time mining in catch or providence.
Come on come and gank me i dare you , you bunch of cowards.
If you're going to do that, you may as well put a bounty up on myself...it's not particularly worth going after a single ****...
That said, I wanted to offer myself up as an achievement for the first to kill me, but I think its too late.
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HULKAGEDDON 2010
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Posted - 2010.01.12 17:01:00 -
[401]
Quote:
3. HARASSMENT
An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if a player:
* a. Organizes or participates in a corporation or group that is based on or advocates any anti-ethnic, anti-gay, anti-religious, racist, sexist or other hate-mongering philosophies.
carebears are a player type and group (love it or hate it), and there are countless examples of anti carebear hate mongering in this thread. Carebears are the weakest players in EVE, but this organized hunt is sadly too much.
Gloss over it with all the spin you wan't, if ccp lose hundreds of subs over this they are within there rights to ban every participant of Hulkaggedon if they kneejerk reaction to a mass quitting of carebears.
Either my troll detector is broken or the stupidity bar for these types of posts has been raised
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Jarik Utoni
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.01.12 17:40:00 -
[402]
i want to thank to participents of hulkageddon for hitting Osmon a while ago, nothing makes my day like tears in local and salvage in the hull
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Cov Ops Pilot (in training)
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Broken Spanner
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Posted - 2010.01.12 17:59:00 -
[403]
Don't Worry. I have a Hulk BPO.
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Idicious Lightbane
Dedicated Insurgents of Eve
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Posted - 2010.01.12 19:13:00 -
[404]
Originally by: Winterjack
Originally by: Zill
Get ready for the nerf bat bigtime, I cant wait to see Insurance go byby or pvp turned off all together in highsec. All down to you lot.
I'm a miner.. but I seriously despise this kind of attitude.
Quote:
I had to give a guy some ships other day when one of your heroes killed a first timer in his hulk, he had it less than 15 mins after working for 4 months to afford it.
4 months to get in a hulk, and he never once stumbled upon rule one of eve, that yours truly after 2 weeks knows by heart:
"Don't fly anything you can't afford to lose."
People were advertising hulkageddon all over the major hubs, and this 4 months player has not heard of it?
The miner population in belts in the last week dropped to near-zero, and he failed to wonder why or ask any question?
Well then, NOW he learned why there is rule nr.1, and why you should always be on your toes. I finally bought a retriever, managed to scrounge up the skills... and will not fly it for a while. Because I know HAG is here, and I know my mining barge needs to be kept safe for a while.
Whatever. This is not a game for the meek - you need to actively work for your safety.
One of the first things I learned in EVE is that you WILL lose your ship. It WILL happen, eventually.
If you can't live with this, maybe you should move on.
This said: no-cost suicide ganks are an anomaly that should not happen, and the overflooding of minerals, if there is such an overflooding, should be corrected.
With this attitude you will get far I salute you for getting EVE
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Sissy Fuzz
Amarr
Sissy Fuzz Communications
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Posted - 2010.01.12 20:06:00 -
[405]
Originally by: Intense Thinker
Originally by: Jamieson's Heir
well, isn't the whole purpose of Hi Sec to actually be one?
Suicide gank is an exploit and as such should be punished imho.
If it wasn't for the buddies in that wolf pack picking up pieces after their bud had been Concorded, there'd be no economical merit to do it.
Hence it'd be for grief alone. Wait.. unless you are in it for grief alone. heh have fun, as if there's nothing else to do in EVE than to pop defenseless miners :D
P.S.: smart people, when they get bored, get out more. Just a thought.
Huh? Sorry, back from my mensa meeting. Now to gank some Hulks!!!!
Oh "Intense Thinker" (the name ), nobody said that being a 'sperg precludes being a sociopath *******. So no problem.
There is no economical incentive in high-sec miner ganking, so you are in it for the griefing. I think CCP should make up their minds now. If they are going to sustain the completely disruptive and irrational behaviour, that is, fully insured high-sec ganking, they should lay off all the people doing background for the game. And lower the subscription substantially, of course. **** novels and planet atmospheres, **** epic arcs and princess faction ****. There is no reason for upholding the proposition that EvE is somehow "rich" or "epic" or "like a real economy" or anything. Because with crap like this going on, it is not. It is all about real life, suddenly - the anger, the inferiority complex... and not having a girlfriend. On the other hand, 'spergs like yourself would be perfectly happy to grief flying 2D lego-bricks on a uniform grey background. It is the griefing that counts. The killboard. Getting back at those hardworking miners. Getting even.
You are pathetic. And so are all the other sad jerks in the little Hulkageddon community (for many of you, surely, this is possibly the closest you will ever get to being part of something, and that experience we all want you to have, of course - I think many of us understand all the hugging and hi5'ing - it is sort of like the first day on a "special" kids' summercamp). Negative Ten comes to mind, who up until now have been having a blast in Rancer for years with just a gate, a handful of smartbombs and a steady flow of noob-ships. God bless them, the depraved little basement dwellers.
Here is some footage showing a typical high-sec ganker just home from his weekly Mensa-meeting. Yes, it hurts.
Just to illustrate that co-existence between the generic Hulkageddon participant and, say, this is... well, moot.
Oh, nevermind.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 20:11:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Sissy Fuzz
There is no economical incentive in high-sec miner ganking
You're wrong. It's profitable.
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.01.12 20:33:00 -
[407]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Sissy Fuzz
There is no economical incentive in high-sec miner ganking
You're wrong. It's profitable.
But only when you are the one 'handing out' the prizes right? ;D
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 20:35:00 -
[408]
Originally by: Ran Khanon
Originally by: Helicity Boson
Originally by: Sissy Fuzz
There is no economical incentive in high-sec miner ganking
You're wrong. It's profitable.
But only when you are the one 'handing out' the prizes right? ;D
No, then it's a lot of work for little reward other than epeen
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SetrakDark
Caldari
DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.12 20:37:00 -
[409]
Originally by: Sissy Fuzz
anger
Are people really this mad?
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 20:46:00 -
[410]
We have our first highsec orca, thanks to the brave souls of Quam:
http://hulkageddon2.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=1658
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Larkonis TrassIer
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.12 20:57:00 -
[411]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
We have our first highsec orca, thanks to the brave souls of Quam:
http://hulkageddon2.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=1658
Damnit
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Juwi Kotch
Fiat Iustitia
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Posted - 2010.01.12 21:06:00 -
[412]
Edited by: Juwi Kotch on 12/01/2010 21:11:52
Originally by: Alarci
And second point would this be happening if insurance was nerfed so that there is no payout when being concorded. I don't think so, so in my honest opinion this all thing is a exploit
Well, of course it's an exploit, and of course those who profit from it never would say so. This will end like the mass war-deccing a year or two ago by the Privateers (was that their name?). They overdo it, the bread and butter backbone of CCPs profitability will vote with their feet, and CCP will stop it.
The hulkageddon will enter history as the reason and the beginning of the end of the present insurance system, and the end of suicide ganking. So at least one good thing will come out of it.
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Ekon Bor
Amarr
Van Diemen's Demise
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Posted - 2010.01.12 21:27:00 -
[413]
Originally by: Sissy Fuzz
Originally by: Intense Thinker
Originally by: Jamieson's Heir
well, isn't the whole purpose of Hi Sec to actually be one?
Suicide gank is an exploit and as such should be punished imho.
If it wasn't for the buddies in that wolf pack picking up pieces after their bud had been Concorded, there'd be no economical merit to do it.
Hence it'd be for grief alone. Wait.. unless you are in it for grief alone. heh have fun, as if there's nothing else to do in EVE than to pop defenseless miners :D
P.S.: smart people, when they get bored, get out more. Just a thought.
Huh? Sorry, back from my mensa meeting. Now to gank some Hulks!!!!
Oh "Intense Thinker" (the name ), nobody said that being a 'sperg precludes being a sociopath *******. So no problem.
There is no economical incentive in high-sec miner ganking, so you are in it for the griefing. I think CCP should make up their minds now. If they are going to sustain the completely disruptive and irrational behaviour, that is, fully insured high-sec ganking, they should lay off all the people doing background for the game. And lower the subscription substantially, of course. **** novels and planet atmospheres, **** epic arcs and princess faction ****. There is no reason for upholding the proposition that EvE is somehow "rich" or "epic" or "like a real economy" or anything. Because with crap like this going on, it is not. It is all about real life, suddenly - the anger, the inferiority complex... and not having a girlfriend. On the other hand, 'spergs like yourself would be perfectly happy to grief flying 2D lego-bricks on a uniform grey background. It is the griefing that counts. The killboard. Getting back at those hardworking miners. Getting even.
You are pathetic. And so are all the other sad jerks in the little Hulkageddon community (for many of you, surely, this is possibly the closest you will ever get to being part of something, and that experience we all want you to have, of course - I think many of us understand all the hugging and hi5'ing - it is sort of like the first day on a "special" kids' summercamp). Negative Ten comes to mind, who up until now have been having a blast in Rancer for years with just a gate, a handful of smartbombs and a steady flow of noob-ships. God bless them, the depraved little basement dwellers.
Here is some footage showing a typical high-sec ganker just home from his weekly Mensa-meeting. Yes, it hurts.
Just to illustrate that co-existence between the generic Hulkageddon participant and, say, this is... well, moot.
Oh, nevermind.
Seriously mate, chill. It's not healthy to be that worked up about pixels. Let alone what someone else does with their pixels...
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 21:30:00 -
[414]
Originally by: Juwi Kotch
Well, of course it's an exploit, and of course those who profit from it never would say so. This will end like the mass war-deccing a year or two ago by the Privateers (was that their name?). They overdo it, the bread and butter backbone of CCPs profitability will vote with their feet, and CCP will stop it.
The hulkageddon will enter history as the reason and the beginning of the end of the present insurance system, and the end of suicide ganking. So at least one good thing will come out of it.
DERP
Have i not said a dozen times already that getting insurance after a suicide gank is ******ed? oh yes! I have
It is, however, not an exploit, just a bad game mechanic that needs an update, which i think we have highlighted nicely by now.
Not to be crass, but you should really f-ing READ before making sweeping statements about what "we" do, yeah? savvy?
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.12 21:35:00 -
[415]
"We" blew up an Orca! In Teonusude! With battleships!
Although I'd ask for some APIs on that one, just to be sure.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 21:39:00 -
[416]
Originally by: Juwi Kotch
Hey, don't be that worked up!
If that is your point, then you have my full support. Seriously. Insurance is the disease and suicide ganking is the symptom. You fight that disease in a quite radical way and from all what I've learned from EVE in my 5 years here, you have good chances to succeed!
I just combine business, with pleasure and entertainment in an efficient package
And let's be honest, where would EVE be without it's villains? I have not yet begun to...er..do bad stuff.
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Spectre3353
Gallente
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 21:47:00 -
[417]
It has been a long time since I saw tears of the quality and quantity that is contained in this thread. It is like a dream come true.
P.S. I taught Helicity everything he knows.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 21:51:00 -
[418]
Originally by: Spectre3353
P.S. I taught Helicity everything he knows.
^This! (it's true!)
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Vivinc Laloo
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Posted - 2010.01.12 21:58:00 -
[419]
All you whining idiots don't realize one very important thing. I will enlighten you.
You, in your hulk in high sec, whining and not understanding anything about this game at all, allready have made the devs indulge you way too much. Can't blame them, they like to get payed ofc.
But this behaviour is unbalancing the game. In fact it's unbalancing it so much that it becomes possible to suicide a bs in high sec without virtually any costs.
You see it's not about the insurance being too high. It's about the ships being too cheap.
Now please read that again, think about it 1 more time and then press the reply button and start typing :)
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Henry Haphorn
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Posted - 2010.01.12 22:01:00 -
[420]
It's a real shame this event will end soon. I would really like to have a face off with you guys. You and me, PVPers vs Hulk.
Right now, I'm just building up my funds for a replacement and then some. I don't want to take too long to get a replacement.
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.12 22:10:00 -
[421]
Originally by: Dracoknight
Zill, if what you have said until now even had the slightest bit of credibility the player counter at the server would be around 1k players by now...
But to your unfortunate babbleing there is just babble because the so-called "players-that-are-sick-of-ganking" is still hanging on to the game or quitted depending on how presistent they are, and isnt here whining like you.
You do have the same syndrome as Joe does, and that is making up facts and then shrug it off when people ask for proof, you claim you have people that have complained to you, we want proof.
Also, why in the hell does those people complain to YOU in the first place?
I have NEVER seen you before now, you is neither a regular on the forums, you have done nothing deserving acknowlegde of any kind... and then you burst in here telling us we are greifers, exploiters and the like, and then bursting all over the place pointing fingers with not even a slightest bit of knowledge of game mechanics...
Seriously Zill, quit this while you still can and lie low, otherwise i recommend you to read the IEEE stories of "Joe Phoenix" because in theory, you are doing the exact same thing: Being stuborn, Lying and Making your own "Justice"
Remember, even for "Greifers" or "Pirates" we know much more of this game than you might think.
Sorry Draco I don't respond well to threats, specially online ones. As to me lieing ? I don't
lie mate. I stated a fact
"But to your unfortunate babbleing there is just babble because the so-called "players-that-are-sick-of-ganking" is still hanging on to the game or quitted depending on how presistent they are, and isnt here whining like you."
Dammed if I know what your talking about here, of coarse people still play, myself incuded because we love the game.
"You do have the same syndrome as Joe does, and that is making up facts and then shrug it off when people ask for proof, you claim you have people that have complained to you, we want proof."
I dont care what you want in life, I dont post peoples emails on forums, the person that's ****ed at me is jsut gonna have to deal with it.
"I have NEVER seen you before now, you is neither a regular on the forums, you have done nothing deserving acknowlegde of any kind... and then you burst in here telling us we are greifers, exploiters and the like, and then bursting all over the place pointing fingers with not even a slightest bit of knowledge of game mechanics..."
Not sure I see what your trying to complain about here mate, please show me where I said I have done anything in EvE of note then tell me where I posted that I deserve acknowledgment? really, I'd love to read my words of Wisdom on that one.Last I new I played eve for my own enjoyment, not to make a name.
I burst into the forums huh ? little over dramatic don't you think?. Most people call it posting on an internet website to air ones opinions.
Last but not least what I know of EvE an what you know of EvE mean absolutely nothing, it is nothing but a computer game used for mindless entertainment. I neither know what you know nor do I care what you know.
"Seriously Zill, quit this while you still can and lie low, otherwise i recommend you to read the IEEE stories of "Joe Phoenix" because in theory, you are doing the exact same thing: Being stuborn, Lying and Making your own "Justice"
Remember, even for "Greifers" or "Pirates" we know much more of this game than you might think."
So you have decreed your gonna "get me" huh ? lol you need to understand something mate, internet threats of "I'm gonna get you" are hot air. It isn't scaring me or making me cry, in the adult world because you don't like someones opinion you don't tell them "I'm gunna get you"... you simply say I dont agree with you an its done. The fact you lot might have harassed some lad called joe whatever is of no interest to me at all
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Ticarus Hellbrandt
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Posted - 2010.01.12 22:23:00 -
[422]
Originally by: Zill
Originally by: Dracoknight
Zill, if what you have said until now even had the slightest bit of credibility the player counter at the server would be around 1k players by now...
But to your unfortunate babbleing there is just babble because the so-called "players-that-are-sick-of-ganking" is still hanging on to the game or quitted depending on how presistent they are, and isnt here whining like you.
You do have the same syndrome as Joe does, and that is making up facts and then shrug it off when people ask for proof, you claim you have people that have complained to you, we want proof.
Also, why in the hell does those people complain to YOU in the first place?
I have NEVER seen you before now, you is neither a regular on the forums, you have done nothing deserving acknowlegde of any kind... and then you burst in here telling us we are greifers, exploiters and the like, and then bursting all over the place pointing fingers with not even a slightest bit of knowledge of game mechanics...
Seriously Zill, quit this while you still can and lie low, otherwise i recommend you to read the IEEE stories of "Joe Phoenix" because in theory, you are doing the exact same thing: Being stuborn, Lying and Making your own "Justice"
Remember, even for "Greifers" or "Pirates" we know much more of this game than you might think.
Sorry Draco I don't respond well to threats, specially online ones. As to me lieing ? I don't
lie mate. I stated a fact
"But to your unfortunate babbleing there is just babble because the so-called "players-that-are-sick-of-ganking" is still hanging on to the game or quitted depending on how presistent they are, and isnt here whining like you."
Dammed if I know what your talking about here, of coarse people still play, myself incuded because we love the game.
"You do have the same syndrome as Joe does, and that is making up facts and then shrug it off when people ask for proof, you claim you have people that have complained to you, we want proof."
I dont care what you want in life, I dont post peoples emails on forums, the person that's ****ed at me is jsut gonna have to deal with it.
"I have NEVER seen you before now, you is neither a regular on the forums, you have done nothing deserving acknowlegde of any kind... and then you burst in here telling us we are greifers, exploiters and the like, and then bursting all over the place pointing fingers with not even a slightest bit of knowledge of game mechanics..."
Not sure I see what your trying to complain about here mate, please show me where I said I have done anything in EvE of note then tell me where I posted that I deserve acknowledgment? really, I'd love to read my words of Wisdom on that one.Last I new I played eve for my own enjoyment, not to make a name.
I burst into the forums huh ? little over dramatic don't you think?. Most people call it posting on an internet website to air ones opinions.
Last but not least what I know of EvE an what you know of EvE mean absolutely nothing, it is nothing but a computer game used for mindless entertainment. I neither know what you know nor do I care what you know.
"Seriously Zill, quit this while you still can and lie low, otherwise i recommend you to read the IEEE stories of "Joe Phoenix" because in theory, you are doing the exact same thing: Being stuborn, Lying and Making your own "Justice"
Remember, even for "Greifers" or "Pirates" we know much more of this game than you might think."
So you have decreed your gonna "get me" huh ? lol you need to understand something mate, internet threats of "I'm gonna get you" are hot air. It isn't scaring me or making me cry, in the adult world because you don't like someones opinion you don't tell them "I'm gunna get you"... you simply say I dont agree with you an its done. The fact you lot might have harassed some lad called joe whatever is of no interest to me at all
stop whining
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Z'Pax
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Posted - 2010.01.12 22:47:00 -
[423]
Originally by: Zill
in the adult world
Thats your big error right there, this ISN'T the adult world, it's an online MMO, need we say anymore?
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Zill
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.12 22:54:00 -
[424]
lol so true Pax, that is possibly my biggest mistake. Not much point responding anymore to the subject.
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Dracoknight
Strategic Syndicate
Chain of Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.12 22:55:00 -
[425]
Originally by: Zill
lol so true Pax, that is possibly my biggest mistake. Not much point responding anymore to the subject.
But yet you still respond..,
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Tason Hyena
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2010.01.12 22:57:00 -
[426]
Zill, honestly, either wardec them and make them pay in game or let it go. You have the power to make them stop if you want to. If all you do about it is talk here, well, you deserve the baiting you get.
If you don't want to fight them, deprive them of any chance of fun by keeping your barge docked and un-gankable. Or seriously look into a player corp or alliance that mines in 0.0-you'll get better yields with better protection.
But seriously people, this is getting to be a non-event with the forum drama.
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Helicity Boson
Amarr
The Python Cartel.
The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.12 23:39:00 -
[427]
Originally by: Tason Hyena
Zill, honestly, either wardec them and make them pay in game or let it go. You have the power to make them stop if you want to. If all you do about it is talk here, well, you deserve the baiting you get.
If you don't want to fight them, deprive them of any chance of fun by keeping your barge docked and un-gankable. Or seriously look into a player corp or alliance that mines in 0.0-you'll get better yields with better protection.
But seriously people, this is getting to be a non-event with the forum drama.
He wouldn't know how mate, he hasn't killed anything since 2005. His occupation is sitting a noobcorp and having no fun. So when other people DO have fun, he gets real upset, afterall, if he can't have fun, why should anyone else?
Aged 42, sitting in a noobcorp with no friends, moaning like a bitter vet, though he has no real experience to contribute, and going on the forums to be relentlessly trolled to the point of inviting people over to his house.
Best we don't mention him anymore beyond this wise lesson...for the children
Don't be like Zill, this is what happens when you are no fun at all.
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.01.12 23:40:00 -
[428]
Over 1100 \o/
Originally by: Doc Robertson
...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Stuart Price
Caldari
The Black Rabbits
The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2010.01.13 03:35:00 -
[429]
Edited by: Stuart Price on 13/01/2010 03:36:53
I've been reading the forums with great interest recently, partly due to Hulkageddon, mostly due to my gaming machine being dead and boredom while waiting for the replacement to be built and deployed.
Should I ever decide to give up my exciting life of crime (and in game) for something else (doubtful) there are two options I'm toying with.
1. High sec mercenary. People in high sec are dumb and easily killed. To be paid to do it would be awesome! Unfortunately, I'm SERIOUSLY late to that party and the place is full of two-bit ****** pilots claiming to be mercs and all the really good ones are hard to get into even for a pilot of my scary badass calibre.
2. Anti-pirate. Seriously, right now I engage under so many disadvantages it's hard not to lust after the opportunity to have all those things work FOR me. For someone actually skilled in pvp, killing outlaws is pretty simple and you get to dictate the terms almost completely. Sadly for most of you, outlaws tend to make the bulk of actually skilled pvp pilots. THE IRONY. So imagine what someone WITH those skills could do?
Ultimately, the attitude of the people I'll be aligning myself with is going to be the deciding factor and, should it not already be pretty obvious by now, I am less than in agreement with the majority of the whiny, greedy, selfish, self-interested, non-adaptive carebear s****that fills empire systems. Not that most lowsec or nullsec dwellers are any better, but at least they're risking more for their gobby opinions.
Yes, I am arrogant (in game). So what? I earned it through years of being really good at an internet spaceships GAME. If you want to shut me up, I'm flashy red and live in lowsec, anyone can shoot me anytime anywhere they want. BRING IT.
Lastly: solid work pilots, keep that killboard rolling.
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Digitally Enhanced
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.13 06:08:00 -
[430]
Originally by: Helicity Boson
We have our first highsec orca, thanks to the brave souls of Quam:
http://hulkageddon2.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=1658
Make that 2 orca's :)
The other one was afk 15km off Magiko gate in teonosude
The first one as you probably, know popped in the icebelt in Teo.
Funny thing. All the miners next to it continued mining like nothing had happened :)
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Digitally Enhanced
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.13 06:18:00 -
[431]
Originally by: Mara Tessidar
"We" blew up an Orca! In Teonusude! With battleships!
Although I'd ask for some APIs on that one, just to be sure.
How bout a fraps of it instead? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taWVDEiU-2Y
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Aqriue
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Posted - 2010.01.13 06:48:00 -
[432]
Quote:
How bout a fraps of it instead? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taWVDEiU-2Y
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Odd, I find that more entertaining then the easy curb stomping of hulks. Anything from not checking your rearview mirror to forgeting to make sure the 8 track player has some good tunes in it can make a hulk pop , but at least some effort went into popping a ship that actually has a larger hitpoint buffer then an Ibis
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.01.13 07:54:00 -
[433]
Originally by: Digitally Enhanced
Originally by: Mara Tessidar
"We" blew up an Orca! In Teonusude! With battleships!
Although I'd ask for some APIs on that one, just to be sure.
How bout a fraps of it instead? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taWVDEiU-2Y
\\Digi
Hehe, love that vid. I bet that makes it to the final compilation :)
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Borgh Brainbasher
Path of Now and Forever
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Posted - 2010.01.13 16:24:00 -
[434]
1163, only about 15.000 to go if i believe QEN 3 2009.
Quote:
you are on the pvp only server
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Winterjack
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Posted - 2010.01.13 16:56:00 -
[435]
Originally by: Jamieson's Heir
well, isn't the whole purpose of Hi Sec to actually be one?
Yep. Hisec. Not perfect sec. Btw, if your name is a reference to that godly game called elite and it's great sequel frontier... then you know what hi-sec means. ;) tho that was actually Jameson, IIRC.
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Suicide gank is an exploit and as such should be punished imho. If it wasn't for the buddies in that wolf pack picking up pieces after their bud had been Concorded, there'd be no economical merit to do it.
True about the econ part. But after all, if there wasn't hauler bringing in can after can, mining in an osprey wouldn't be profitable either. Or the refining guy grinding missions to increase standing and reduce corp taxes.
This is a MMO. So grouping is to be expected.
Suicide gank is an "exploit" in the most literal sense: it uses a mechanic that has been DELIBERATELY put in.
Or you want to tell me you never wondered WHY Concord takes so long to spawn? You don't think CCP is unable to make it spawn faster, say in 0.1 sec, do you? Or at the exact time of targeting?
Why aren't weapons just disabled?
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It is all about real life, suddenly - the anger, the inferiority complex... and not having a girlfriend.
You see, it's this BS that I just can't take. You assume that SINCE they play the game a different way, THEN they've got no GF. The other think that SINCE you play in hisec, THEN you're a kid in mom's basement.
That is just a bucketload of pure idiocy, on both parts.
If YOU get angry, then that is YOUR problem. Just yours. You're looking at a screen and getting angry. See the unreasonable behaviour here?
They made your database row in one of CCP servers say 0 instead of one. And for THAT, you claim it's about "not having a gf". "Depraved boys in mom basement".
And you claim THIS is real life?! I can't believe you're serious.
Lemme quote yourself:
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You are pathetic.
Next post you're gonna wish cancer to someone, as well?
The Star Trek Online open beta is available now - it's fun, and you only kill the bad guys. No unconsensual PvP there, you fly safe every moment, unless you go into a PvP area. It's a nice game.
And here, just so you don't think I've got anything to do with HAG, I'm a miner. This is my main (and only) character. Ask for my API for further proof.
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Lyshah
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
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Posted - 2010.01.13 17:31:00 -
[436]
This is great. Well done on a successful event!
We've been doing some other stuff lately, ganking hulks in 0.0... slightly more of a challenge, but no less tearful.
I got the hulk suicide ganking out of my system earlier for my vid Save Teh Roids
Originally by: Le Skunk
Guaranteed Nerf Bat then
CCP talk the biggun about "emergant gameplay" but when it happens the rhetoric changes to "its our game" and "we have long term vision" whilst they nerf ya
SKUNK
Thats what I was predicting as well.
And "Alliance P - Pew-Pew-Palooza" was sooooo worth it.
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Troggor
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Posted - 2010.01.13 22:06:00 -
[437]
Edited by: Troggor on 13/01/2010 22:09:02
I love watching fat kids argue on the internet. One good thing about this so called event watching guys brag how tough they are killing a Highly skilled mining toon hahahaha
Ona side Note why dont yall quit leing about not using it to get money from isurance YOU are CCP isnt stopping you why lie?
SO far i have only seen guys about 6 months into the game get killed so far. Which one yall Awesome pvpers wins the newbie killer award?
AH well logged on see what all the fuss is about Furoms full of fanboys and IM THE greatest insert whatever phrase they use types anyway. Back to mining.
Edited because I misspelled while Mining afk in my hulk laughing at all the RMT mission runners racking in the loot and minerals who are effected none what so ever
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Silent Sins
The Stars Of Orion
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Posted - 2010.01.13 22:08:00 -
[438]
go go gadget-hulkageddon
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SetrakDark
Caldari
DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2010.01.13 22:11:00 -
[439]
Originally by: Troggor
Edited by: Troggor on 13/01/2010 22:09:02
I love watching fat kids argue on the internet. One good thing about this so called event watching guys brag how tough they are killing a Highly skilled mining toon hahahaha
Ona side Note why dont yall quit leing about not using it to get money from isurance YOU are CCP isnt stopping you why lie?
SO far i have only seen guys about 6 months into the game get killed so far. Which one yall Awesome pvpers wins the newbie killer award?
AH well logged on see what all the fuss is about Furoms full of fanboys and IM THE greatest insert whatever phrase they use types anyway. Back to mining.
Edited because I misspelled while Mining afk in my hulk laughing at all the RMT mission runners racking in the loot and minerals who are effected none what so ever
ohhhhhhhhh! you all got served!
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Jedi Deus
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Posted - 2010.01.14 05:13:00 -
[440]
Originally by: Zaqar
Originally by: Jedi Deus
brats
You guys keep saying stuff like this, but from where I stand, these so-called 'brats' (Helicity et al) seem to be pretty normal people, perfectly capable of communicating like adults. You and your sort, on the other hand seem to be mostly illiterate children, spouting your strange insults. Originally by: Jedi Deus
Whole buncha cancer victims
Yeah, like that. What's wrong with you?
Well, once you learn to read a sentence.
Perhaps we can graduate you to holding thought long enough to understand a paragraph.
Then you wouldn't have trouble understanding what you are reading. Instead of focusing on a single word that crosses your mind, and you interpret your own meanging. mmmK
Nice try on the "trying to be intelligent part", perhaps next time understand what you are quoting. Do try to keep up 'eh.
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Ando Raed
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Posted - 2010.01.14 09:33:00 -
[441]
Comps like this would have been dead in the water if CCP killed insurance payouts for illegal attacks in empire space.
So CCP approves of these activities irrespective if you like it or not.
You have two options. Mass cancel your accounts stating the reason why or bend over, clutch your ankles and take it up the arse.
CCP will do something about it when they feel the loss of revenue. The vast majority of players reside in empire space, if you want to continue to be *****es then just whine on forums, because nothing will happen. CCP will only act when they hurt in the wallet.
I've never lost a hulk despite having 3 accounts that can fly hulks, so I don't give a **** either way what you do. Just stop *****ing about it on the forums because CCP will do nothing about it, they don't care about talk, just action.
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Karadan Kaarwen
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Posted - 2010.01.14 10:46:00 -
[442]
The point is, if you are at all competent at playing this game, have a semblence of common sense and don't afk mine, then you will never fall foul of the hulkageddon players.
So, whatever. The tears in this thread are hilarious. If you're a miner who's been caught out by hulkageddon, then you obviously need to learn how to mine correctly. Go back to your text books because you're obviously doing it wrong.
There's nothing wrong with the system and the hulkageddon pilots should be applauded for killing the **** out of all these worthless macro and afk miners. They are also providing a service to the players who don't warp out when they see 25 geddons appear at their ice belt. Learning the hard way has always been the best way to learn.
I tip my hat to this game, which enables its players to police the community :) Self governance is the true ownage of any MMO.
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Swalesey
Prosperity Through Violence
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Posted - 2010.01.14 12:10:00 -
[443]
Originally by: Zill
Edited by: Zill on 10/01/2010 05:21:13
lol so now your actually doing mining a favor by griefing ? hehe too funny. But,no your not you have no other thought on the matter than to coarse grief an upset people. You know it, as well as I do :)
Jihad was directly responsible for the first high sec nerf, an this is far more feral than GF ever was. Do you really think they wont deal with it eventually.
They are watching it to see how bad it gets as it is. Why is it griefers are allowed to make money by attacking others with no risk an no losses... yet miners HAVE to lose ?
Please give me a reason for this I dare you lol
You take zero risk lose nothing at all an have the ability to ruin peoples "PAID"for game time. I would love to know your reasoning for this.
While I can avoid gankers an the little teen gangsta wanna be's many cant. It isn't always cos they are afk either, some have not cottoned on to the fact you lot use BM trading to set up a "Highsec Hot Drop" of sorts.
I do tell people now though if they see anyone jump into the belt, leave no matter if they come near you or not. Destroy your cans an warp out. Some get it, others dont or wont believe it.
They really badly need to remove the locks on NPC corps so they can back each other up, an hunt the griefers in packs
bring Blob warfare to highsec an see how long it is before you lot are ones complaining hehe.
Wow ok. Or another option would be, to have a staggered concord response time on a players age. no concord response for a player over 1 year old. how's that sound?
Or kick all members out of what should be the new player corps after 6 months, into 100 man war decable corps to encourage them to move on to the eve everyone else is playing instead of some half assed no risk all profit approach to it.
Or, add some new systems in the regions of perfect sec. 2 systems in every region of empire space where only players less than 2 months can go. then kick them out into the real eve after the ones who put some effort in have had chance to read up and get information on things they should and shouldn't do. and let darwin take care of the rest.
how about a staggered tax on a players age from an npc corp. up to 100% at 8 months?
npc corps should be for new players, not for seasoned old players to hide in.
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2010.01.14 14:24:00 -
[444]
\o/ Skiff kill!
I owe Kerey Courini 25mill for being the first (and only!) Skiff kill on the kb.
Now if only I had a working video card so I could log in :(
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Htrag
The Carebear Stare
Hydroponic Zone
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Posted - 2010.01.14 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ando Raed
Comps like this would have been dead in the water if CCP killed insurance payouts for illegal attacks in empire space.
False.
Like the insurance return on 3-4 destroyers means anything.
I'd "donate" 4M worth of ships to kill a hulk ALL DAY.
Your tears are worth more than that.
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Winterjack
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Posted - 2010.01.14 14:53:00 -
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Zill never fails to amuse me.
Originally by: Zill
Why is it griefers are allowed to make money by attacking others with no risk an no losses... yet miners HAVE to lose ?
This is about the only part of your post that makes any sense. The no risk and no losses part.
Originally by: Zill
While I can avoid gankers an the little teen gangsta wanna be's many cant. It isn't always cos they are afk either, some have not cottoned on to the fact you lot use BM trading to set up a "Highsec Hot Drop" of sorts.
Well, DOH. Get a grip. You don't even need BM trading, there's fleetwarp to get in all together.
It's like those major geniuses who canflip the canflippers. Smart. Most do it once only tho, cuz then they learn to use their brains.
Hisec is comfy and safe enough. Not perfectly safe, consider losing a ship into "enterprise risks" and never fly what you can't afford to lose.
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I do tell people now though if they see anyone jump into the belt, leave no matter if they come near you or not. Destroy your cans an warp out. Some get it, others dont or wont believe it.
lol. Terrorism at its best.
If the gankers are smart enough, it's extremely hard to avoid. Even when aligned, it takes seconds to warp out and gankers plan it for a 3 seconds kill, mostly. Heh. Insure your ship.
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They really badly need to remove the locks on NPC corps so they can back each other up, an hunt the griefers in packs bring Blob warfare to highsec an see how long it is before you lot are ones complaining hehe.
yeah right. As if a character that spent 30 days training for a hulk can compete with your average combat oriented pirate, who has got 24 more days to train skills after he got into a bship.
You get all the miners in their frigates and go hunt a fully trained battleship/dessy fleet. See how long you survive.
Numbers mean ziltch if you're equipped with rocks and they have automatic weapons and tanks.
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Wow ok. Or another option would be, to have a staggered concord response time on a players age. no concord response for a player over 1 year old. how's that sound?
See, this is the kind of answer that makes you not much different than Zill.
What about you go play the game your way, HAG included, and let hisec low-risk players play the game THEY want, their way? It's not like everyone's in eve for the "tears" or pvp value, or whatever you think the game is about.
Unless you're willing to pay for my subscription too, I tend to think I'm not going to have to follow your rules. CCP rules, by all means. Yours? Not a chance. Zills? by all means no.
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and let darwin take care of the rest.
Yeah. If CCP was a non-profit organization for the survival of the strongest, that'd probably be smart.
But I have a feeling they're in for the money. Which is very good.
Those who don't know what they are doing and don't want to read will be killed anyway.
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npc corps should be for new players, not for seasoned old players to hide in.
This is just as moronic as the average whining about hisec being not perfect security. You whine cuz players can stay in hisec and not be wardecced? Yet you demand that hi-sec stays hisec and not perfsec.
So on one side, Zill demands to be totally safe from pirates, and on the other side you demand that concord be done away with or players forced in a state where they can be forced to fight, willing or not.
Where's the difference?
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Sissy Fuzz
Amarr
Sissy Fuzz Communications
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Posted - 2010.01.14 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark
Originally by: Sissy Fuzz
anger
Are people really this mad?
I think maybe fascinated is the better word.
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Leocadminone
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Posted - 2010.01.18 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jared D'Uroth
300 * 150 million = Conservative 45 billion in damage done.
This could be good for the market
The only reason the Jita market blipped was speculation.
Hulkageddon had essencially NO effect on the market - the current Northern Alliance wars have had more effect.
Now, had y'all managed to kill more Hulks a day than the AVERAGE Jita sales day, you might have had a noticeable effect - the only REAL effect was that a few manufacturers cranked up a few extra Hulks and ended up flooding the market for a week or two.
And yeah, you probably managed to **** off a few folks and might have cost Eve a few players who got tired of the no-reason ganking CCP mechanics promotes.
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