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WrathOfOprah Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 04:20:00 - [31] SYS-K TITAN IS TACKLED
MpozoY Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 04:22:00 - [32] DATELINE: 49-U In a stunning display of competence, a combined Sys-K / AAA / AAA renters (Ushra Khan, mostly) fleet has once again smashed the Goon defenses. All SBU's remain firmly on the gates and the station has been cruelly driven into reinforced. Reports of Zastrow's titan being tackled and burning are currently unconfirmed.
Pudgy McFudge Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 04:23:00 - [33] I lost everything. What am I going to do now?
WrathOfOprah Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 04:26:00 - [34] Originally by: WrathOfOprah SYS-K TITAN IS TACKLED CORRECTION, MY TITAN IS TACKLED IN BELT ONE SNED HALP
Rodent Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 04:27:00 - [35] 04:12:49 Combat Your Judgement hits Dabigredboat [MRCHI]<OHGOD>(Buzzard), doing 1526.5 damage. Op success Signature graphics that may only contain your character name, corporation logo, corporation or personal slogan or other text that is directly related to your in-game persona, or content directly related to EVE Online. All content must be in good taste.Please revise your signature. Applebabe
Sidus Sarmiang Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 04:27:00 - [36] Originally by: Pudgy McFudge I lost everything. What am I going to do now? We still have each other.
Zverofaust Gallente Gunship Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.01.11 04:29:00 - [37] Guys there's not enough Q.Q in this thread, its making nullsec war actually seem interesting.
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 04:30:00 - [38] On the bright side 3 SBU's cost less than the 50 towers they lost last time.
Hratli Smirks Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 04:54:00 - [39] In my defense I was completely accurate about Liam Fremen
Naomi Ashikaga Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 04:57:00 - [40] everything sysk touches turns to crap
Venetian Tar Caldari United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2010.01.11 05:01:00 - [41] Originally by: Naomi Ashikaga everything sysk touches turns to crap I'd better not let them touch my pee-pee then. It already burns when I pee. On a more serious note, I would say ~gf~ to the invaders, but there were none. My poor Thanatos didn't get shot at once tonight! Reminds me of that time I had sex with DBRB...
Agaue Caldari Tin Foil IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.11 05:04:00 - [42] Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Since some of yall may not be aware of the new sov mecahnics you guys do have to do those big ops 3-4 days in a row to take a system, not just one night. I think everyone can agree the new sov mechaniocs are completely ******ed. having to dominate the defenders for 4 consecutive days in the defenders preferred timezone is ludicrously difficult. Not to mention that if forces are relatively even the defenders have the advantage of being able to attack their choice of SBU, each of which has significantly less hitpoints then ihub/station. For any strong and well organised alliance it should be extremely easy to defend, especially when there is a timezone difference between the attacking/defending membership base. This is not a shot at goons/friends (congrats on defending 49-), it is a shot at CCP for not thinking this system through before implementing it. It is better than POS wars, but it definitely favours the defenders too much imo.
Petar Quaresma Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 05:09:00 - [43] How would you know about sov mechanics? All the systems you claimed were basically handed to you without a fight.
Bedrock Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.01.11 05:11:00 - [44] Originally by: Petar Quaresma How would you know about sov mechanics? All the systems you claimed were basically handed to you without a fight. Yup no ships died in that Fountain Campaign Name Start dateKillsISK (B) Fountain of Kills2009-10-0110224952.77
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 05:27:00 - [45] Originally by: Agaue Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Since some of yall may not be aware of the new sov mecahnics you guys do have to do those big ops 3-4 days in a row to take a system, not just one night. I think everyone can agree the new sov mechaniocs are completely ****ed. having to dominate the defenders for 4 consecutive days in the defenders preferred timezone is ludicrously difficult. Not to mention that if forces are relatively even the defenders have the advantage of being able to attack their choice of SBU, each of which has significantly less hitpoints then ihub/station. For any strong and well organised alliance it should be extremely easy to defend, especially when there is a timezone difference between the attacking/defending membership base. This is not a shot at goons/friends (congrats on defending 49-), it is a shot at CCP for not thinking this system through before implementing it. It is better than POS wars, but it definitely favours the defenders too much imo. Almost like you have to have superiority over the enemy to take their system. **ing amazing concept.
Naomi Ashikaga Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 05:28:00 - [46] Originally by: Bedrock Originally by: Petar Quaresma How would you know about sov mechanics? All the systems you claimed were basically handed to you without a fight. Yup no ships died in that Fountain Campaign Name Start dateKillsISK (B) Fountain of Kills2009-10-0110224952.77 good job quoting a post about sov mechanics and countering with killboard stats tri never changes
Trishtan DeMore Caldari Seraphin Technologies	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:02:00 - [47] Edited by: Trishtan DeMore on 11/01/2010 06:04:29 Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Almost like you have to have superiority over the enemy to take their system. ****ing amazing concept. BS. you basically only have to have a 1/3 of a day superiority to defend. AAA + appendix has a 2/3 of a day superiority vs you and all that helps you is the fact that US TZ is strong. so the concept is basically broken. it should be like the POS stront timer were. a certain amount of hours from the time it is shot into RF. if shield is below 50% you can kite it. Then it is fair that a 16h/day covering group can overcome a 8h/day covering group.
Moon Kitten Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:08:00 - [48] Edited by: Moon Kitten on 11/01/2010 06:11:07 Originally by: Agaue CCP for not thinking this system through Not thinking it through? You're the one not thinking. The alternative is station ping pong. CCP moved away from station ping pong for a reason. Station ping pong doesn't work very well with the treaties feature CCP plans to add. Ergo you're dumb.
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:17:00 - [49] Originally by: Trishtan DeMore Edited by: Trishtan DeMore on 11/01/2010 06:04:29 Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Almost like you have to have superiority over the enemy to take their system. ****ing amazing concept. BS. you basically only have to have a 1/3 of a day superiority to defend. AAA + appendix has a 2/3 of a day superiority vs you and all that helps you is the fact that US TZ is strong. so the concept is basically broken. it should be like the POS stront timer were. a certain amount of hours from the time it is shot into RF. if shield is below 50% you can kite it. Then it is fair that a 16h/day covering group can overcome a 8h/day covering group. Why not just suck it up and instead of covering 16h a day cover 8? Hahaha
Agaue Caldari Tin Foil IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:32:00 - [50] I know I am going to regret trying to discuss anything with goons on CAOD, but here goes. Originally by: Petar Quaresma How would you know about sov mechanics? All the systems you claimed were basically handed to you without a fight. This statement is wrong on two fronts, the first is sov mechanics is the process of placing SBU's, reinforcing ihubs/stations if present, and then killing TCU and finally placing your own TCU. If there are no hostiles there then a system can be taken without a fight, but you still get a good knowledge of sov mechanics. Not all the station systems IT have taken in fountain were sov neutral. Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Almost like you have to have superiority over the enemy to take their system. **ing amazing concept. if you define superiority as having more numbers than the defending alliance for more than 4 days consecutively, then your statement has merit. however due to the timezone differences this is extremely difficult. For example, I doubt there is one european based station holding alliance that goons could outnumber for more than 4 consecutive days. Though this doesnt mean that goons are less "superior" than all european based station holding alliances. Originally by:** Moon Kitten Not thinking it through? You're the one not thinking. The alternative is station ping pong. CCP moved away from station ping pong for a reason. Station ping pong doesn't work very well with the treaties feature CCP plans to add. Ergo you're dumb. I did not mention station ping pong, only you did, and if station ping pong is the only solution that you can think of then you shouldnt comment on sov. Just a few example off the top of my head could be; 1) introducing a stront type timer for stations/ihubs, so attacking alliances could "kite" the reinforce timers of stations/ihubs. 2) make the reinforcement timers on stations/ihubs more random (ie. +/- 8 hours of the defenders desired reinforcement time. 3) both of the above ideas combined. 4) move back to only 1 reinforement timer on stations/ihubs instead of 2. 5) have a single "sovereignty" POS. The current sov system is better than station ping pong or POS spamming, but is too heavily tilted to the defenders advantage, and is leading to the massive battles we are seeing at the moment (which imo would be a good thing if the servers could handle them). Now feel free to spam away.
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:37:00 - [51] So I guess what youre saying is when yall lost sov in delve it didnt really hurt the defense of it at all because the old system wasn't geared for defenders?
King Dave Gallente The Viral Coercion Phenomenon	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:40:00 - [52] Originally by: Naomi Ashikaga Originally by: Bedrock Originally by: Petar Quaresma How would you know about sov mechanics? All the systems you claimed were basically handed to you without a fight. Yup no ships died in that Fountain Campaign Name Start dateKillsISK (B) Fountain of Kills2009-10-0110224952.77 good job quoting a post about sov mechanics and countering with killboard stats tri never changes "You guys took station's with no superbattles" Proves superbattles... "Look at you trying to show off how much you superbattle" /facepalm "Evil Edna > just get director roles, put child *** in the corp bio and then petition ccp"
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:48:00 - [53] Originally by: King Dave Originally by: Naomi Ashikaga Originally by: Bedrock Originally by: Petar Quaresma How would you know about sov mechanics? All the systems you claimed were basically handed to you without a fight. Yup no ships died in that Fountain Campaign Name Start dateKillsISK (B) Fountain of Kills2009-10-0110224952.77 good job quoting a post about sov mechanics and countering with killboard stats tri never changes "You guys took station's with no superbattles" *Proves superbattles... "Look at you trying to show off how much you superbattle" /facepalm That actually isnt what he was saying at all. But mad props for trying.
Agaue Caldari Tin Foil IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:50:00 - [54] Originally by: EdFromHumanResources So I guess what youre saying is when yall lost sov in delve it didnt really hurt the defense of it at all because the old system wasn't geared for defenders? that isnt what I was saying at all. but mad props for trying. /double facepalm all I am saying now is that your reading comprehension sucks
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:53:00 - [55] Originally by: Agaue Originally by: EdFromHumanResources So I guess what youre saying is when yall lost sov in delve it didnt really hurt the defense of it at all because the old system wasn't geared for defenders? that isnt what I was saying at all. but mad props for trying. /double facepalm all I am saying now is that your reading comprehension sucks Sorry that you couldn't comprehend I was only mocking you and your alliance.
Agaue Caldari Tin Foil IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:57:00 - [56] Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Sorry that you couldn't comprehend I was only mocking you and your alliance. I forgive you. pro tip: Next time if you want to mock my alliance, actually use something that my alliance was involved in like "I heard it was easier to lose 100 dreads in syndicate under the old sov mechanics". As IT alliance has never held any space in delve.
King Dave Gallente The Viral Coercion Phenomenon	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:59:00 - [57] Edited by: King Dave on 11/01/2010 06:59:57 Originally by: EdFromHumanResources That actually isnt what he was saying at all. But mad props for trying. I see what I did wrong now. He was obviously talking about how they didn't properly get to know the new sov mechanics because they didn't get any superbattles. But then bedrock said... Ohhh i don't really care! Thanks for helping me out though. P.s Where did all your pe.. Allies go to? Edit: HI FIVE AGAUE "Evil Edna > just get director roles, put child **** in the corp bio and then petition ccp"
Panzram Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 07:04:00 - [58] This started out as such a good thread but really went off the rails toward the bottom of page 2. Lets all work together to get it back on track.
King Dave Gallente The Viral Coercion Phenomenon	Posted - 2010.01.11 07:06:00 - [59] Originally by: Panzram This started out as such a good thread but really went off the rails toward the bottom of page 2. Lets all work together to get it back on track. I suppose the sarcastic goon comments about tackled titan's and other such ABSOLUTE fabrications made this a good thread earlier on? TO WORK I GO! "Evil Edna > just get director roles, put child **** in the corp bio and then petition ccp"
EdFromHumanResources Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.11 07:09:00 - [60] Originally by: Agaue Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Sorry that you couldn't comprehend I was only mocking you and your alliance. I forgive you. pro tip: Next time if you want to mock my alliance, actually use something that my alliance was involved in like "I heard it was easier to lose 100 dreads in syndicate under the old sov mechanics". As IT alliance has never held any space in delve. Hahahaha, I really hope yall believe this.

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