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Tamahra Gallente Danke fuer den Fisch	Posted - 2010.01.11 00:57:00 - [1] Look at all the recent user records. Now imagine if we could step out of our pods and - visit special agents in stations that arent registered on any networks - gamble together for isk - play strategy games with other players - have a drink - dress up with the latest fashion Now THAT would drag alot of people into eve. This year would about be the very right time to finally unleash Incarna.....
Kurt Westergaard	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:00:00 - [2] im gonna **** you on a sublevel
Cyprus Black Caldari Cowboy Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:02:00 - [3] Edited by: Cyprus Black on 11/01/2010 01:06:09 The lack of avatar representation of players ingame puts off a lot of would-be EvE subscribers. If CCP really knew by how much, Incarna would've been released a long time ago. That's not a shot at CCP because I really do enjoy this game. It's just that having a physical representation of yourself ingame really means a lot to players. It builds attachment to their characters and achievements. Representation by spaceships just doesn't cut it for most MMO gamers. This is going to be one of those things where, after it becomes hugely successful, the devs smack themselves in the forehead and ask why didn't they do this sooner. ___________________________________ "In the land of predators, the lion does not fear the jackal." -Dexter
Novantco The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:03:00 - [4] Originally by: Tamahra dress up with the latest fashion Oh god no.
Tamahra Gallente Danke fuer den Fisch	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:05:00 - [5] Originally by: Novantco Originally by: Tamahra dress up with the latest fashion Oh god no. Oh god YES!
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:06:00 - [6] You can already get drunk, gamble and play strategy games with other players in EVE...and drinking IRL >>> drinking an imaginary drink and then going har-de-har guys I am drunk har har, I'm so funny. If you think a substantial number of people are going to subscribe and stay subscribe to EVE solely because of Incarna, then you are delusional. Incarna will be nice and all, but you'll be bored within a week tops. Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose.
Lovejoy II	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:08:00 - [7] As long as you can't type /dance I'm happy. That would kill EvE for me. /slap would be nice. but /hug, /kiss and /shy would have me cancel the subscription!
Mik Nostrebor Minmatar Ex Coelis	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Novantco Originally by: Tamahra dress up with the latest fashion Oh god no. Oh yes fiashionistas! You too can set up your own shops and sell clothing items you have made yourself. Fashion parades, magazines and fashion ads on those little tv screens near gates will become the norm. Maybe new markets will open up. Like refining frozen corpses to extract sinew with which to weave into the lastest fashion cloth... Who knows? Who cares? We will all look fantastic darlings!
Tamahra Gallente Danke fuer den Fisch	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:10:00 - [9] Originally by: Vaal Erit You can already get drunk, gamble and play strategy games with other players in EVE...and drinking IRL >>> drinking an imaginary drink and then going har-de-har guys I am drunk har har, I'm so funny. If you think a substantial number of people are going to subscribe and stay subscribe to EVE solely because of Incarna, then you are delusional. Incarna will be nice and all, but you'll be bored within a week tops. You underestimate the power of fluffz
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:13:00 - [10] Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 11/01/2010 01:13:08 look, if i'm lending my name to this expansion, it better have very small amounts of barbie-esque dressup and very large amounts of exotic dancers, mindless violence, drug use, crime, gambling, and other generally awesome things, even if they're all pretend _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep!

Cat o'Ninetails Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:15:00 - [11] i cant wait to open my beauty and accessories parlour in rancer lol x Yay! Six months of defending! \o/ <3 to Abrazzar!
Tamahra Gallente Danke fuer den Fisch	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:15:00 - [12] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate look, if i'm lending my name to this expansion, it better have very small amounts of barbie-esque dressup and very large amounts of exotic dancers, mindless violence, drug use, crime, gambling, and other generally awesome things, even if they're all pretend ok from what we know: barbie-esque dressup check exotic dancers check mindless violence uncheck drug use (already in the game) gambling check other awesome things check thats alot of checks compared to non checks :p
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:21:00 - [13] Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 11/01/2010 01:21:56 Originally by: Tamahra ok from what we know: ... thats alot of checks compared to non checks :p It's just not the same without the mindless violence. How am I to teach people respect if I can't properly have them executed for cutting in line at the local hot dog stand? _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep!
Dark Sidhe Rage For Order Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:23:00 - [14] How about they iron out the bugs from Dominion before they roll out another large patch? ------------------------------- "Back away from the Tatoo Ink"
Aloriana Jacques Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:30:00 - [15] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 11/01/2010 01:13:08 look, if i'm lending my name to this expansion, it better have very small amounts of barbie-esque dressup and very large amounts of exotic dancers, mindless violence, drug use, crime, gambling, and other generally awesome things, even if they're all pretend Since they're only using half your name, they'll deliver on half your requests. You'd better hope they pick the good stuff. ;) - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
Jane Bennet Caldari Alloyed Tritanium Bar And Grill	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:40:00 - [16] Originally by: Tamahra Originally by: Novantco Originally by: Tamahra dress up with the latest fashion Oh god no. Oh god YES! Oh god you better believe it. The guy CCP hired to design clothes for our avatars has previously designed shoes made of whale ********. I kid you not. "These are size 8, or if you rub them, size 13." Oh those Icelanders and their wacky whale-murdering ways.
Adeline Grey	Posted - 2010.01.11 01:51:00 - [17] Originally by: Tamahra Look at all the recent user records. Now imagine if we could step out of our pods and - visit special agents in stations that arent registered on any networks - gamble together for isk - play strategy games with other players - have a drink - dress up with the latest fashion Now THAT would drag alot of people into eve. This year would about be the very right time to finally unleash Incarna..... Troll? LOL, no one cares about that garbage.
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2010.01.11 02:17:00 - [18] Originally by: Aloriana Jacques Since they're only using half your name, they'll deliver on half your requests. You'd better hope they pick the good stuff. ;) Well, that's not the official list anyways, as I've yet to be contacted regarding my proper endorsement for this expansion and all. My eve-mail box awaits, CCP!
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2010.01.11 02:21:00 - [19] Originally by: Adeline Grey Troll? LOL, no one cares about that garbage. Well I do. The mighty Cat does. So you are wrong. And you use lol, which makes you even more wrong.
Ingela Gathenhielm	Posted - 2010.01.11 02:33:00 - [20] The one and only reason that I have any desire to walk in a station is to find and subsequently beat the ^&%$* out of the docking manager Scotty.

WarlockX Amarr Free Trade Corp	Posted - 2010.01.11 02:43:00 - [21] Originally by: Adeline Grey Originally by: Tamahra Look at all the recent user records. Now imagine if we could step out of our pods and - visit special agents in stations that arent registered on any networks - gamble together for isk - play strategy games with other players - have a drink - dress up with the latest fashion Now THAT would drag alot of people into eve. This year would about be the very right time to finally unleash Incarna..... Troll? LOL, no one cares about that garbage. You have NO idea how many ppl don't play this game simply because there's no avatar. I have 5 friends who all tried this game who all didn't want to sub because of lack of avatar. How ever many ppl you can find that don't care I bet I can find 10x more that DO care. ----------------------------------------------- Free Trade Corp - Flash page
Reiisha Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.11 02:49:00 - [22] Originally by: Novantco Originally by: Tamahra dress up with the latest fashion Oh god no. I direct you to this post by everyone's favorite former forum mod. Latest fashion, hit me with everything you got. "If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all"
Captain Mastiff	Posted - 2010.01.11 03:03:00 - [23] Originally by: Dark Sidhe How about they iron out the bugs from Dominion before they roll out another large patch? Dear Kind Sir, We do not understand your stressed comment on the forums, our current expansion is working as intended. Sincerely CCP.
Metalcali	Posted - 2010.01.11 03:05:00 - [24] Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia Now if you fear that the avatars will look dull because they can be covered..you need to broaden your horizons and explore the world of latex. I can see some good things coming from this
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.01.11 04:30:00 - [25] Originally by: WarlockX Originally by: Adeline Grey Originally by: Tamahra Look at all the recent user records. Now imagine if we could step out of our pods and - visit special agents in stations that arent registered on any networks - gamble together for isk - play strategy games with other players - have a drink - dress up with the latest fashion Now THAT would drag alot of people into eve. This year would about be the very right time to finally unleash Incarna..... Troll? LOL, no one cares about that garbage. You have NO idea how many ppl don't play this game simply because there's no avatar. I have 5 friends who all tried this game who all didn't want to sub because of lack of avatar. How ever many ppl you can find that don't care I bet I can find 10x more that DO care. This mirrors my experience also. Obviously anyone playing EvE now doesn't care that much about having an avatar. The point is to attract those for whom it is important. In any case, as I said in the previous thread: EVE needs more things to do than just fly spaceships. Flying spaceships is awesome, dont get me wrong, but that will get old after a while. Incarna isn't just about attracting new players; it's also about enticing old players to stay a little longer.
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Research and Manufacturing Corp.	Posted - 2010.01.11 05:25:00 - [26] It's been about 3 years now since they first announced that they started working on 'walking in stations'. Damn right, it's about time... Originally by: Akita T this whole game is just me playing with myself
Harriet Jones	Posted - 2010.01.11 05:32:00 - [27] I cant wait for it, its definately something EVE has been missing.... but. I like to whine... alot. And I'd much rather they make the game work properly with the players its got before attracting even more ways to make it crash.
Zartanic Red Federation	Posted - 2010.01.11 05:44:00 - [28] Originally by: Vaal Erit You can already get drunk, gamble and play strategy games with other players in EVE...and drinking IRL >>> drinking an imaginary drink and then going har-de-har guys I am drunk har har, I'm so funny. If you think a substantial number of people are going to subscribe and stay subscribe to EVE solely because of Incarna, then you are delusional. Incarna will be nice and all, but you'll be bored within a week tops. WOW makes billions of dollars over the fact a high proportion of players like to dress their dollies in the latest gear. I know it's weird to the rest of us but the game itself is extremely easy and challenge is not the main reason people play that game anymore. The whole of the last WOW expansion was about that fact which is why some of us left the game for good as all challenge was removed so everyone could dress up the way they wanted with no effort. EVE has no fluff at all and even a small bit would benefit the game as long as it complements the rest of it rather than replaces.
Rico Lobo	Posted - 2010.01.11 06:23:00 - [29] Originally by: Cyprus Black Edited by: Cyprus Black on 11/01/2010 01:06:09 The lack of avatar representation of players ingame puts off a lot of would-be EvE subscribers. If CCP really knew by how much, . From everything I have heard they ARE aware of that. (besides its kind of hard for them to miss that point, its aparently brought up that this is a Sci fi MMO where the players are little more than eggs that spatter when poped. . .) but from what I have read in there opinion (1) the people who can do both the avatars and and animation of said avatars tend to also have other jobs that are a bit higher in priority and (2) the people who have the skills and time have aparently been doing dust. . . pun intended.
Solaris233	Posted - 2010.01.11 07:30:00 - [30] Instead of walking in stations lets put in what every space fan wants. The ability to enter planets and go exploring. WOuld open a new avenue in PVP as well.

Navtiqes Space Sheriff	Posted - 2010.01.11 08:08:00 - [31] Edited by: Navtiqes on 11/01/2010 08:08:45 Originally by: Tamahra Originally by: Novantco Originally by: Tamahra dress up with the latest fashion Oh god no. Oh god YES! It has to be a dress or nothing at all. I happen to have nothing at all in my cabin wink wink
Vaal Erit Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2010.01.11 08:15:00 - [32] Originally by: Zartanic EVE has no fluff at all and even a small bit would benefit the game as long as it complements the rest of it rather than replaces. Completely agree. It's just that people keep saying that Incarna is going to be the best thing since T2 while it's just going to be a rather small and hardly used area of EVE. Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose.
randomname4me	Posted - 2010.01.11 08:43:00 - [33] Originally by: Tamahra - dress up with the latest fashion Didn't you hear? CCP bought out gia-online so they could use the "dress my avatar is this months latest pixels" engine. On the other hand everyone has there own opinion and you can feel free to disagree with my sig. EVE Online: Rated RRR- For Explicit Breakfast Piercing Bullets.
Amaron Ghant Caldari Icarus' Wings	Posted - 2010.01.11 10:51:00 - [34] Second Life with space stations? Oh My God NO!!! I would sup with the devil and forget to use a long spoon if it led to me spitting on the grave of nationalism.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2010.01.11 11:00:00 - [35] Originally by: Vaal Erit Originally by: Zartanic EVE has no fluff at all and even a small bit would benefit the game as long as it complements the rest of it rather than replaces. Completely agree. It's just that people keep saying that Incarna is going to be the best thing since T2 while it's just going to be a rather small and hardly used area of EVE. You underestimate the force of the Star Wars cantina. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
stravros vatta	Posted - 2010.01.11 11:05:00 - [36] i bet there is a space sim for sl (which is just a vpron game anyway) but the ability to costomise my costume and maby have a little taser gun that i can just nock people over with in stations also a pos structure i could walk in would be nice have a mall section of a station be able to walk through a small trophy room i really like how they were saying that the program would sync the lips of your avatar to your mic input and even modify your voice the tech seems a little shaky but still the machinima potential would be staggering (clear skys on crack) also id like to lord my wealth over a bunch of console noobs playing dust since capsuleers are vip's so to speak
Thrymren	Posted - 2010.01.11 11:06:00 - [37] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Originally by: Vaal Erit Originally by: Zartanic EVE has no fluff at all and even a small bit would benefit the game as long as it complements the rest of it rather than replaces. Completely agree. It's just that people keep saying that Incarna is going to be the best thing since T2 while it's just going to be a rather small and hardly used area of EVE. You underestimate the force of the Star Wars cantina. I could kill you with a tray! oO
Siigari Kitawa Gallente The Aduro Protocol HellFleet	Posted - 2010.01.11 11:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Thrymren I could kill you with a tray! oO No the food is hot; the tray is for you to put the food on. www.siigarikitawa.com ò www.eohpoker.com ò Buy a GTC
Triss S'Jet Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.11 11:30:00 - [39] Cyber! \o/
Wurzel Gummidge	Posted - 2010.01.11 11:43:00 - [40] At last, my own turnip farm in space

Mashie Saldana Hooligans Of War	Posted - 2010.01.11 11:49:00 - [41] As long as we will be able to put our enemies heads in pickle jars I'm happy.
Olivor	Posted - 2010.01.11 12:02:00 - [42] I just hope Incarna comes with a "plastic surgery" feature. Looks as his picture again Oh god why did I ever think this was acceptable.
Khors Amtek Inc	Posted - 2010.01.11 12:16:00 - [43] Originally by: Solaris233 Instead of walking in stations lets put in what every space fan wants. The ability to enter planets and go exploring. Would open a new avenue in PVP as well. Yeah, that is so going to happen soon, because making a very simple sidetrack where you can walk around in a station didnt take them 3 or 4 years so far. If you want to fight at planets get Dust514 when it comes. On another note though, they better not **** up incarna, it ought to look real nice if it is supposed to go with the visuals of space. I have these images of stiff walking around like in some early 3d game
stravros vatta	Posted - 2010.01.11 12:26:00 - [44] i love the pickle jar idea and for some reason a private turnip farm seems appealing as well
Mister Xerox	Posted - 2010.01.11 12:47:00 - [45] Second-Life in space... hooooo rah facepalm
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2010.01.11 13:14:00 - [46] Little known fact: Incarna is being developed by the same team that worked on Duke Nukem Forever.
Guttripper Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2010.01.11 13:15:00 - [47] If people are looking to walk around and interact with people, then put down the Cheetos, turn off the computer, and interact with people in real life. Not that hard of a concept, unless you're really socially inept. --- Achurian players retain their fugly looks when this expansion is released. There should be no reason they benefited years ago with increased stats save for Charisma and now feel they should be entitled to look glamorous. --- Since people desire to walk around, you would not be hooked into Aura which is a part of the egg and thus your skill training should cease. --- There really should be an option to have hand-to-hand combat, gun fights, etc. outside the egg and thus potentially getting "podded" would be easier than if surrounded by an egg and ship. Cold, harsh universe of Eve - not Sims Online.
genette devo Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.01.11 13:18:00 - [48] why do people care how other people play, it will bring in subs, you don't want to do anything outside your ship, gotcha, other people don't want to sit at a gate and beat off to their latest kill mail, guess what everybody will be paying their 15 bucks(or equivalent currency) I know tons of people who would be playing if there was an avatar of any kind besides an egg.
MrGarak Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.01.11 13:33:00 - [49] Edited by: MrGarak on 11/01/2010 13:35:21 Originally by: Olivor I just hope Incarna comes with a "plastic surgery" feature. Looks as his picture again Oh god why did I ever think this was acceptable. Bahaha. You may be fined for breaking the facial recognition unit which grants access to station facilities :p One thing I would like about Incarna is if there was the possibility of shady meetings in dark hallways, larger corporation meetings in rooms and things like that, it would offer a fresh sense of realism and certainly add to the game, so long as it captures the dark atmosphere of the EVE universe, which it seems to do judging from the trailer. I personally can't wait.
Quinn Tokimeki Caldari NOVA TECH	Posted - 2010.01.11 13:50:00 - [50] CCPs lack of information on Incarna is the worst thing at the moment by far! I remember when this was first touted, and its still (seemingly) no closer... Fingers crossed for the summer expansion! ---- The 3 steps to success: Mining, ?, Profit.

Captain Mastiff	Posted - 2010.01.11 13:54:00 - [51] Expansion has no content, thread locked.
Serge Bastana Gallente GWA Corp	Posted - 2010.01.11 14:13:00 - [52] Originally by: MrGarak Edited by: MrGarak on 11/01/2010 13:35:21 Originally by: Olivor I just hope Incarna comes with a "plastic surgery" feature. Looks as his picture again Oh god why did I ever think this was acceptable. Bahaha. You may be fined for breaking the facial recognition unit which grants access to station facilities :p One thing I would like about Incarna is if there was the possibility of shady meetings in dark hallways, larger corporation meetings in rooms and things like that, it would offer a fresh sense of realism and certainly add to the game, so long as it captures the dark atmosphere of the EVE universe, which it seems to do judging from the trailer. I personally can't wait. From what I saw of the trailer, this is how it looks to me, 'going off grid' to get your dirty deeds done dirt cheap. This would fit well with the feel of the game and might give us a few more options for conflict, but we'll have to see. If it just turns into 2nd Life in space then it will be overlooked by a lot of players, me included. ------------------------------------------------ You either need a punch up the throat or a good shag. Nobody round here is offering the second one therefore your choices are limited!
Rez Radgrif Core Factor	Posted - 2010.01.11 14:29:00 - [53] This is oddly reminiscent of an old game I used to play ages ago, before EA cut it. Anyone remember "Earth and Beyond"? Used to rival EVE, except EVE took off, and ENB didn't. You could walk about in stations in ENB, customize your character, everything. I'd like to see Incarna launch soon. DJ Radgrif on EVE Radio Saturdays 0600-0800 GMT
Mrs Snowman	Posted - 2010.01.11 14:47:00 - [54] Oh I think CCP are well aware of how it would impact user base. The problem is though they also know it could have a negative impact on existing user base if not done correctly. Too little to do: noone would use it and stations would be empty. Too much to do: People wouldnt undock and actually play internet space ships. Given that every single MMO release in the past 3 years has never been able to retain its user base after the first free 30 days I think CCP knows that the MMO consumer is demanding, unforgiving and not to be taken granted. Hence the need to spend the appropriate time to do it right Personally, I am not the kind of consumer that "quits" an MMO. I will always keep the door open and will always re-subscribe if an expansion is good enough. If Eve takes a year for this, then it just means i'll be a year older =]
Ascuris Wurm	Posted - 2010.01.11 14:51:00 - [55] People have been hearing about Walking in Stations/Ambulation/Incarna for so long, that not only does it have three names by now, it will never be able to live up to the years worth of expectations people are going to place on it. I wish we could all forget that we know they are working on it, and just have it be a nice surprise when it finally hits.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.01.11 14:59:00 - [56] Originally by: Novantco Originally by: Tamahra dress up with the latest fashion Oh god no. Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia You can have plastic surgery but I'm not sure if you can do it just on the boobs. We don't want the avatars to look very unnatural(gravity defying boobs on tiny tiny frames, it can be done but trust me those girls don't breathe during photoshoot or it takes them years of training). It wouldn't fit into the vision we have for Ambulation to have very unrealistic looking female star ship pilots. Now if you fear that the avatars will look dull because they can be covered..you need to broaden your horizons and explore the world of latex. I have also another thing to add to this: BDSM Fashion. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Navtiqes Space Sheriff	Posted - 2010.01.11 15:00:00 - [57] Originally by: Seth Ruin Little known fact: Incarna is being developed by the same team that worked on Duke Nukem Forever. Awesome! If Incarna is half as good as Duke Nuke Forever then it'll be the second best game ever made. Right after Duke Nukem Forever, because that's the best ever no doubt and will never be beat. In fact cause of the groundbreaking sandbox mode I guess you could say Duke Nukem Forever will never actually be won cause it just keeps coming at you. Just mindblowing! I especially loved that part where you ride the Camaro they drop from the **** plane while it's on fire and you totally don't see the elephant coming before the bomb goes off.
Drichter	Posted - 2010.01.11 15:25:00 - [58] Just imagine: Gallente Navy Soldiers in green camouflage running through steel-grey corridors. We'll see how good it work ...
Triss S'Jet Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.11 16:42:00 - [59] Originally by: Drichter Just imagine: Gallente Navy Soldiers running naked through steel-grey corridors. We'll see how good it work ... Fixed.
Fergus McRae Gallente New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden	Posted - 2010.01.11 17:28:00 - [60] I'd love to be able to get out of my ship and walk around a station, talking to agents and whatnot. However, I'm not particularily interested in any fluff that doesnt' have an actual gameplay element. For instance, I couldn't care less about a common "bar" area for chit-chatting and whatnot. I'm not 13 years old and I have no interest in playing Habbo Hotel. I'm an ancient old MMO vet, I've seen and played most of them, certainly all the big name ones. EVE is dark and gritty. Unlike other games and stories there are no moral absolutes, everything is a shade of grey. I just don't think that having costume contests in the bar like some Sci-Fi version of Atlas Park is something that would do anything other than break my immersion. That being said, assuming it's something that I can simply avoid by not taking part, then I have no issue with it if others enjoy it. --- Fergus McRae And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod The high untresspassed sanctity of space, Put out my hand and touched the face of God. -Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee

Aloriana Jacques Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2010.01.11 17:30:00 - [61] Originally by: Drichter Just imagine: Gallente Navy Soldiers in green camouflage running through steel-grey corridors. We'll see how good it work ... It'll work as long as they use the pixelated pattern! It's obviously far superior to regular gloopy pattern! - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
Drunk Driver Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2010.01.11 17:37:00 - [62] Originally by: Tamahra Look at all the recent user records. Now imagine if we could step out of our pods and - visit special agents in stations that arent registered on any networks - gamble together for isk - play strategy games with other players - have a drink - dress up with the latest fashion Now THAT would drag alot of people into eve. This year would about be the very right time to finally unleash Incarna..... Thanks for the laughs!!!
Captain Mastiff	Posted - 2010.01.11 17:47:00 - [63] I think I'll get some nice Amarrian Spacepants!
Sokratesz	Posted - 2010.01.11 18:05:00 - [64] Originally by: Novantco Originally by: Tamahra dress up with the latest fashion Oh god no. and get a front door key to the playboy mansion
Ghanuur	Posted - 2010.01.11 18:11:00 - [65] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Novantco Originally by: Tamahra dress up with the latest fashion Oh god no. and get a front door key to the playboy mansion this^^
Mire Stoude The Undesirables	Posted - 2010.01.11 19:09:00 - [66] Originally by: Novantco Originally by: Tamahra dress up with the latest fashion Oh god no. Your god can't save you now.
Highwind Cid	Posted - 2010.01.11 19:28:00 - [67] Originally by: Tamahra Look at all the recent user records. Now imagine if we could step out of our pods and - visit special agents in stations that arent registered on any networks - gamble together for isk - play strategy games with other players - have a drink - dress up with the latest fashion Now THAT would drag alot of people into eve. This year would about be the very right time to finally unleash Incarna..... Ya, it might drag some new heads into the game, but I bet they wouldn't last once they get over these features and see the core of what makes EVE, EVE.
McRoll Minmatar Heatseekers	Posted - 2010.01.11 19:31:00 - [68] Think about Incarna as a development project where many developers, money and lots and lots of programming time is poured into. I'm asking myself whether that development time would have been better invested in other things like balancing or something that adds more depth into the game. Somehow I dont think that walking and minigames add more to Eve than shiny graphics and attracting children who whine on forums for some stuff they dont understand yet. Besides, game developers who want too much often fail. Im thinking of Arma2 for example. Its not like its not being worked on planetary interaction and Dust514 as well. I am skeptical if they can maintain quality by doing that much at once.
Great Notion	Posted - 2010.01.11 20:16:00 - [69] WTB True Sansha Leather Chaps
Kalexander	Posted - 2010.01.11 20:22:00 - [70] Originally by: McRoll Think about Incarna as a development project where many developers, money and lots and lots of programming time is poured into. I'm asking myself whether that development time would have been better invested in other things like balancing or something that adds more depth into the game. Thats where your assumptions can be wrong though you see, I think Incarna is the very definition of depth. Its completely different types of features, and can be leveraged to enrich the game in ways that have no limitations we can currently correlate with. Pew Pewing red crosses isn't going to get any "deeper" in terms of game mechanics I'm afraid. As refactoring those ancient systems would take significantly more work/risk than creating completely new and original game features like Incarna or planetary interactions that supplement Eve as we know her now. You are also subscribing to a logic that may not be correct, where that, additional new features are automatically at the expanse of work to old ones. We simply don't know if that can be true or not. How do you know the "money" people at CCP wouldn't just lay a bunch of people off and still keep the same specific smaller focused team "polishing and fixing" old content thats doing so now? I'm sorry, but from a business standpoint, its usually typical to spend your resources on progressive new features than the polishing of older shipped ones.

Ryhss Caldari The Templar Navy SRS.	Posted - 2010.01.11 20:22:00 - [71] I am anti Incarna. I joined Eve to get away from the WASD keyboard crap like EVERY OTHER MMO out there. Billy Corgan is dating Jessica Simpson, my cousin has dubbed the celeb couple "Smashing Dumbkins".
Esiel Renegade Serenity	Posted - 2010.01.11 20:33:00 - [72] I have to laugh at the idiots who say "if incarta has... dance... fashions... ect. I'm going to quit." There is no requirement to leave thier ships. So when you quit, quite frankly it is to the betterment of eve. If you are that stupid worrying about stuff like that then please leave now. On an other note, for those of you who don't think Incarta won't bring in a fair amount just because people like avatars, think again. I learned from the Sims that people will pay to just play with avatars doing ordinary things. Now put them in space and I can see a draw so don't write it off. ... Beat the dead horse
MrGarak Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.01.11 20:48:00 - [73] Edited by: MrGarak on 11/01/2010 20:50:50 Originally by: Ryhss I am anti Incarna. I joined Eve to get away from the WASD keyboard crap like EVERY OTHER MMO out there. Why would you be against it? CCP have said that it's not essential for you to go walking, it just offers new opportunity's to those who want to leave the pod once in a while, and benefits, but if you don't want a part of it then so be it, stay in your pod and it's the same game regardless.
Scout Ops	Posted - 2010.01.11 20:58:00 - [74] Edited by: Scout Ops on 11/01/2010 20:59:06 I have an important question: - are we needing to redesign our toons? - or on the other hand Incarna will convert our 2D into 3D representations automatically I hope its the 1st one so we have the opportunity to fix our toons, theres always something u regret of. But please bring the same style, clothes and backgrounds (incase some of us want to keep current toon as much as possible). Ofcourse include more of them as the current itembase has not been improved from........... never?
Ryhss Caldari The Templar Navy SRS.	Posted - 2010.01.11 20:59:00 - [75] Edited by: Ryhss on 11/01/2010 21:01:54 Originally by: Esiel I have to laugh at the idiots who say "if incarta has... dance... fashions... ect. I'm going to quit." There is no requirement to leave thier ships. So when you quit, quite frankly it is to thIe betterment of eve. If you are that stupid worrying about stuff like that then please leave now. On an other note, for those of you who don't think Incarta won't bring in a fair amount just because people like avatars, think again. I learned from the Sims that people will pay to just play with avatars doing ordinary things. Now put them in space and I can see a draw so don't write it off. When did I say I was quitting?! Am I quitting?! Wish someone told me I was quitting. I wasn't saying that. I got into EVE because it was differen't. Now theres rumor it will be like every other MMO. Even if I don't get out of my ship, theres still going to be WOW asshats ruining EVE. And I only use my pod when my ship gets blown up, I subscribe to the Clear Skies train of thought. I know the official story is the pod of goo crap, but I can imagine whatever the hell I like, it's my $15! Billy Corgan is dating Jessica Simpson, my cousin has dubbed the celeb couple "Smashing Dumbkins".
Malen Nenokal The Nightshift	Posted - 2010.01.11 21:03:00 - [76] Originally by: Scout Ops Edited by: Scout Ops on 11/01/2010 20:59:06 I have an important question: - are we needing to redesign our toons? - or on the other hand Incarna will convert our 2D into 3D representations automatically I hope its the 1st one so we have the opportunity to fix our toons, theres always something u regret of. But please bring the same style, clothes and backgrounds (incase some of us want to keep current toon as much as possible). Ofcourse include more of them as the current itembase has not been improved from........... never? You will be required to redesign your toon.
McRoll Minmatar Heatseekers	Posted - 2010.01.11 21:11:00 - [77] Originally by: Kalexander Originally by: McRoll Think about Incarna as a development project where many developers, money and lots and lots of programming time is poured into. I'm asking myself whether that development time would have been better invested in other things like balancing or something that adds more depth into the game. Thats where your assumptions can be wrong though you see, I think Incarna is the very definition of depth. Its completely different types of features, and can be leveraged to enrich the game in ways that have no limitations we can currently correlate with. Pew Pewing red crosses isn't going to get any "deeper" in terms of game mechanics I'm afraid. As refactoring those ancient systems would take significantly more work/risk than creating completely new and original game features like Incarna or planetary interactions that supplement Eve as we know her now. You are also subscribing to a logic that may not be correct, where that, additional new features are automatically at the expanse of work to old ones. We simply don't know if that can be true or not. How do you know the "money" people at CCP wouldn't just lay a bunch of people off and still keep the same specific smaller focused team "polishing and fixing" old content thats doing so now? I'm sorry, but from a business standpoint, its usually typical to spend your resources on progressive new features than the polishing of older shipped ones. You are right, it is better for the company to develop new stuff, but is it really better for the customers? Shiny new avatars will surely attract new people and CCP gets money for that. Doesnt mean that the game gets better though. I will now say something about World of Warcraft, even with the danger to get flamed just because I mentioned that game. I used to play it in the past, before the 2 addons arrived. Back then, the game felt completely different than it does now. When more and more players started playing, Blizzard tried to please everyone. They made content easier, they took away the "limited to one server" battlegrounds where you knew each other and made a big pool of them. Only brainless masses without teamplay now. They simplified many things, just to please everyone and attract even more people. Right now, WoW is not what it used to be and things like that might happen in the future to Eve as well. The more new players come, the stronger their voice will be. They might want things that can throw the gameplay overboard. Some people are already complaining that CCP lowered prerequisites to certain skills and professions like exploration. Think about people demanding arenas and no real ship losses. Would you like something like that? Bit drastic, but where money is(new players), CCP might get weak. And I dont know much about programming but I guess its way more difficult to implement a completely new game mechanic like walking with an avatar in a very old code than improve gameplay aspects of existing things. I hope that Im wrong and Incarna really adds some useful things to the game but the other way is more realistic. It might turn out in some rooms where a crowd jumps around spamming emotes. I lived through that nightmare in WoW already, really dont want it there.
Fergus McRae Gallente New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden	Posted - 2010.01.11 21:42:00 - [78] Quite frankly, I'd be happy with being able to customize the look of my ship. --- Fergus McRae And, while with silent lifting mind I've trod The high untresspassed sanctity of space, Put out my hand and touched the face of God. -Pilot Officer Gillespie Magee
SomebodyKickedMyDog	Posted - 2010.01.11 21:58:00 - [79] Originally by: Vaal Erit You can already get drunk, gamble and play strategy games with other players in EVE...and drinking IRL >>> drinking an imaginary drink and then going har-de-har guys I am drunk har har, I'm so funny. well it should be setup so that as you drink, you temporarily lose more and more sp. then when you fly your ship, it's hard to control and the overview is blurred. but when someone shoots you, your tank drops more slowly because you're feeling so invulnerable; but when you're at half tank you suddenly blow up. all the while, the jukebox is playing "we want fun" by andrew w.k.
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company ISK Six	Posted - 2010.01.11 23:01:00 - [80] Originally by: Tamahra - gamble together for isk You can do this now: www.eohpoker.com =D

LordSwift Caldari Swift Industries Inc	Posted - 2010.01.11 23:08:00 - [81] Originally by: Guttripper Since people desire to walk around, you would not be hooked into Aura which is a part of the egg and thus your skill training should cease. You need to read some of the backstory and the novel. The cybernetic implants that makes us pod pilots (Not the attribute ones) allow us to train anywhere anytime. So whether we are in a pod or not we will still train.
Awesome Possum Imperium Signal Corps	Posted - 2010.01.11 23:32:00 - [82] incarna***s can die in a horrible fire [ingame] ♥ Wreck Disposal Services
Ishuku Amarr Dark Star Industries	Posted - 2010.01.11 23:39:00 - [83] I am looking forward to it and fully embrace it. ~sghq.com~
Discrodia Gallente Experimental Horizons	Posted - 2010.01.11 23:44:00 - [84] WTB Dread Guristas T-shirt and Shadow Serpentis Beret! Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Locked, thread is filled with trolling.
Cailais Amarr Diablo Advocatus Rogue Elements.	Posted - 2010.01.11 23:44:00 - [85] Originally by: Highwind Cid Ya, it might drag some new heads into the game, but I bet they wouldn't last once they get over these features and see the core of what makes EVE, EVE. Veldspar? C. Originally by: Capa So if you wake up one morning and it's a particularly beautiful day, you'll know we made it.
ZephyrLexx Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.01.12 00:38:00 - [86] don't worry once Star Trek Online comes out and they lose about 20k players to it i'm sure they will ramp up production on Ambulation.
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Cult of War	Posted - 2010.01.12 03:03:00 - [87] Originally by: ZephyrLexx don't worry once Star Trek Online comes out and they lose about 20k players to it i'm sure they will ramp up production on Ambulation. Heh, all I can say about STO is: To those who are really looking forward to that game, the joke's on you.
Liang Nuren The Lollypop Factory	Posted - 2010.01.12 03:10:00 - [88] Originally by: Vaal Erit You can already get drunk, gamble and play strategy games with other players in EVE...and drinking IRL >>> drinking an imaginary drink and then going har-de-har guys I am drunk har har, I'm so funny. If you think a substantial number of people are going to subscribe and stay subscribe to EVE solely because of Incarna, then you are delusional. Incarna will be nice and all, but you'll be bored within a week tops. I dunno, I could totally see my corp sitting around in an in game bar playing some ingame strategy/card game and getting drunk irl... -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org
Myn Daern	Posted - 2010.01.12 03:53:00 - [89] One thing I really want to happen is if you are out of your pod, you don't have access to local, and you don't show up on local. This would add an entirely new aspect of tactics and the importance of stations in the game. This would add depth, and make space more dangerous. Not only do you have to check adjacent systems, but you'd have to check the stations for ambushes. IMO the more options you have in pvp the more indepth the pvp, which is why I like pvp in this game, it's impossible to have the quintessential Ship(Fit), it can always be beaten using tactics. Fashion and redesigning characters is a great side effect I like the idea of having a private meeting, in the depths of a station. Or pilots waiting for action in there hangers ready to pod-up and undock into action. Plus this would help many peoples problem with local being used as a intel tool, if people in the stations are not in local, you'll never know for sure. Just my .02 ISK Myn Daern


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