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If you want to pull of a grand heist, you shouldn't tell anyone you just pulled off a grand heist.

I they didn't tell anyone, then it would be a heist. By telling everyone about it, was just emergent gameplay.

Not really... Was the boomerang exploit emergent gameplay? How about that exploit where you webbed freighters as they were trying to insta-warp from stations? Both were clever manipulations of the game, but were still exploits.

People warned CCP about the possibility of this before the patch went live. CCP didn't listen. Why is CCP punishing people for pointing out that they didn't listen?

Not really... Was the boomerang exploit emergent gameplay? How about that exploit where you webbed freighters as they were trying to insta-warp from stations? Both were clever manipulations of the game, but were still exploits.

You do know Sandboxes have walls right? This is a Sandbox not a desert.

People warned CCP about the possibility of this before the patch went live. CCP didn't listen. Why is CCP punishing people for pointing out that they didn't listen?

Sandboxes have always had boundaries, otherwise they would just be beaches or deserts or something.

Excessive tears by Goon alts?


Exploit: to utilize, especially for profit; turn to practical account: to exploit a business opportunity.

If this is too hard to understand, perhaps I can find a kiddie's dictionary to link for you?

Sandboxes have always had boundaries, otherwise they would just be beaches or deserts or something.

The mechanic still exists, then mechanic itself was totally intended. It was the market manipulation of various items that let the guys do what they did.

When you get a result from your actions and say "Wow I bet CCP didn't indend THAT", you are probably right. People realize when they are exploiting, and cry foul when called on it.

CCP Xhagen says. "Technically speaking, they were not doing anything that was forbidden

June 22, 2012 Never forget.

The death of the sandbox came as innocuously as it began. A group of enterprising individuals who examine patch notes and run spreadsheets and formulas found a way to get ahead of a poorly implemented feature on an upcoming patch. The Viking Gods of CCP hf saw fit to sacrifice innovation upon the altar of expediency.

Walls slammed into place and bars were erected. "You may go this far and no further," was the message. This bold and beautiful universe we live in became much smaller.

June 22, 2012 Never forget.

The mechanic still exists, then mechanic itself was totally intended. It was the market manipulation of various items that let the guys do what they did.

if market manipulation is an exploit, then well, holy crapballs batman....

Here's the thing though, with the Sandbox. The whole idea behind EVE is Risk vs. Reward. There was no risk (as they were blowing up their own alts) and there was unlimited rewards. What about that isn't broken? Not only that, but seriously Goons...you posted about your heist on GD, and then get pissed when CCP wises up? You don't rob a bank, then head to the police and tell them EXACTLY how you bypassed the security...and then expect to get away with it, do you?

Why wouldn't they?
Capsuleers have noone to fear, except partialy Concorde, but Concorde does not police market pvp, only agression against others in high sec space.

Factions do their battles in low sec, a free for all zone.
IF there was foul play, let concorde judge this, and adjust security standings therafter to prevent them from entering high sec space.


i urge you all to read the novell by CCP called Empyrian Age.
This sort of gameplay is what CCP themselves front as the posibilities of EVE.


And no risk vs reward??
When one invest all the isk one have, is that not a risk?

never forget

because this is TOTALLY like that last event that everyone loves to say they won't forget. Good job invalidating a terrible event by equating it to a debacle in a VIDEO GAME.