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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:07:00 -
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Personally, I think that pot should be legal. It's no worse than cigs or beer. It's not ******.
But I digress. This thread is about carry ammunition. But the losers on the internet can't seem to get that through their thick skulls.
I just tried some Corbon DPX today and it worked out great. Dropped a 98 pound Javelina with two rounds to the chest. About 12" penetration and both bullets retained about 98% of their weight. Range was about 15 yards. You never know what you'll run into when you're out hiking. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
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Alchemist Zemont
Gallente Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Zeba For the vast majority of people a smoking gun means that dastardly target ring at the end of the range is dead. Stupid ebil target rings must die.. Smoking pot however means that some brain cells in that big squishy grey mass at the end of your medulla oblongata are dead and don't even get me started on the number of lives which are ruined by excessive drug use. So which would you outlaw?
The small minority of people who use guns to kill are still more deadly than pot.
Statistically? Not Even Close.. Pot is the cause of moar fatal accidents due to hindered reaction times and situational awareness in this country that all gun crime combined. So you want to go on a crusade to save life in numbers that actually mean something? Try to get cigarettes banned. 
Ok since you are getting worse, I will remind you that obesity in the US is the worst in the world % based NOT by numbers, it also contributes to far more problems than people are aware .ghost population' for example, just because one person is obese doesnt mean he is 'one person' he will be in short be eating and consuming for 2, this includes ALL resources too. This doesnt even include the TOP health problems that are associated with obesity that dont even come anywhere close to any other health issue and yes MOST cancers and health problems are directly from diet and nutrition.
Now before you go on about smoking kills, sure it does but compare smoking related illness with diet related ones, now I actually dont smoke, drink or do anything unhealthy (my consumption of weed is usually through food IF I have any) the example above was just something that you blindly would say but I also know the benefits / limitations of drugs legal / illegal and a person smoking a joint ISNT the same as a person shooting someone. ______________________________________ Due to a high amount of tears and childish behaviour I wont say anything negative, wouldnt want to make anymore people cry :'( |

Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus Personally, I think that pot should be legal. It's no worse than cigs or beer. It's not ******.
In moderation sure but alas most people don't have the willpower to just stop at a mild buzz and instead go all out binge. 
Originally by: Bellum Eternus I just tried some Corbon DPX today and it worked out great. Dropped a 98 pound Javelina with two rounds to the chest. About 12" penetration and both bullets retained about 98% of their weight. Range was about 15 yards. You never know what you'll run into when you're out hiking.
Awesome kick ass stuff. I shot a groundhog with my .45 with the +P JHP Corbon round and it was just an awful mess. It looked like it stepped on a mine with all the guts and shattered ribs hanging out. Note to self: Don't use that ammo for small game if you want to save the pelt. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus Personally, I think that pot should be legal. It's no worse than cigs or beer. It's not ******.
But I digress. This thread is about carry ammunition. But the losers on the internet can't seem to get that through their thick skulls.
I just tried some Corbon DPX today and it worked out great. Dropped a 98 pound Javelina with two rounds to the chest. About 12" penetration and both bullets retained about 98% of their weight. Range was about 15 yards. You never know what you'll run into when you're out hiking.
did you eat it? them things look tasty!
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Alchemist Zemont
Gallente Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:25:00 -
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Edited by: Alchemist Zemont on 18/02/2010 03:26:59 My opinions are my own, they are based on facts and studies, I know it is easy to assume I am blindly following media but I havent read ANYTHING controversial in 6 years (with the exception of these forums but I doubt that counts :P), anything media related and my comments are based on my own research and experience.
I havent once been addicted to anything not even games and dont consume enough do even be classed as a light stoner but that doesnt change my opinion just because I dont do something or dont do much of it doesnt mean I will criticise it because I was brainwashed too :P
Note: Oh and when I say media I dont mean stuff that random generic people say, I mean stuff that gets taught and is classed as FACTS and not MEDIA
Anyway I am off to bed, your stupidity bores me
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Originally by: Zebb In moderation sure but alas most people don't have the willpower to just stop at a mild buzz and instead go all out binge. Sad
So now you speak for every person who smokes pot and when I say moderation you call me a media puppet but when you gun friendly boyfriend does you change your tune   ______________________________________ Due to a high amount of tears and childish behaviour I wont say anything negative, wouldnt want to make anymore people cry :'( |

Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 18/02/2010 03:29:31
Originally by: Alchemist Zemont and a person smoking a joint ISNT the same as a person shooting someone.
Unless he is so high he can't drive properly and drifts across a lane into a car full of kids because he is trying to grab the joint he dropped in his lap and was too stoned to realise he needed to pull over to safely retrieve it. This is but one of the many ways even a drug as mild as pot can kill. But hey pot makes you feel good and mellow so you won't feel the need to kill with a gun so it must be all good then. 
also:
Originally by: Alchemist Zemont lulz
Stoned again eh? 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Pyrhus Taavi
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 18/02/2010 03:29:31
Originally by: Alchemist Zemont and a person smoking a joint ISNT the same as a person shooting someone.
Unless he is so high he can't drive properly and drifts across a lane into a car full of kids because he is trying to grab the joint he dropped in his lap and was too stoned to realise he needed to pull over to safely retrieve it. This is but one of the many ways even a drug as mild as pot can kill. But hey pot makes you feel good and mellow so you won't feel the need to kill with a gun so it must be all good then. 
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So basically exactly like alcohol?
(except alcohol and pot aren't purchased and used for the express purpose of killing people)
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Alchemist Zemont
Gallente Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Alchemist Zemont and a person smoking a joint ISNT the same as a person shooting someone.
Unless he is so high he can't drive properly and drifts across a lane into a car full of kids because he is trying to grab the joint he dropped in his lap and was too stoned to realise he needed to pull over to safely retrieve it. This is but one of the many ways even a drug as mild as pot can kill. But hey pot makes you feel good and mellow so you won't feel the need to kill with a gun so it must be all good then. 
You know someone who actually has the energy to drive after being high, I barely got my flat mate to pick up the phone when he was high, you got pro skill, besides he would think things are going too fast anyway and even parked he will think he is going 50mph but im sure you are stupid enough to take damage from a parked car, I see thats what you meant by kids 
And with that I am of to bed, I know this is a scary thing me going to sleep and lots of people will die because I am so relaxed right now but I am sure the chilled out music will make everyone get over the massacre that I am about to commence zzz ______________________________________ Due to a high amount of tears and childish behaviour I wont say anything negative, wouldnt want to make anymore people cry :'( |

Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Personally, I think that pot should be legal. It's no worse than cigs or beer. It's not ******.
But I digress. This thread is about carry ammunition. But the losers on the internet can't seem to get that through their thick skulls.
I just tried some Corbon DPX today and it worked out great. Dropped a 98 pound Javelina with two rounds to the chest. About 12" penetration and both bullets retained about 98% of their weight. Range was about 15 yards. You never know what you'll run into when you're out hiking.
did you eat it? them things look tasty!
Most of the javelina/boar in the western US are feral and as such their meat is poisonous to eat. I butchered it to find the bullets but the meat was literally green from the interstitial mucus content. Otherwise I'd have BBQed it. Wild boar tend to be a little stringy however. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
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Pyrhus Taavi
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus Most of the javelina/boar in the western US are feral and as such their meat is poisonous to eat. I butchered it to find the bullets but the meat was literally green from the interstitial mucus content. Otherwise I'd have BBQed it. Wild boar tend to be a little stringy however.
Holy ****, you really are a survivalist psychopath.
Do you live in a shack in the woods? Do you have floorplans for federal government buildings?
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Alchemist Zemont
Gallente Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:43:00 -
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Bellum is a known troll BUT this is a cool topic and im troll friendly so NEVER STOP POASTING!!
Damn these forums are more addictive than my herbs XD ______________________________________ Due to a high amount of tears and childish behaviour I wont say anything negative, wouldnt want to make anymore people cry :'( |

Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi So basically exactly like alcohol?
(except alcohol and pot aren't purchased and used for the express purpose of killing people)
What does alchohol have to do with the comment I quoted? And who cares if drugs or alchohol are not purchased with the sole intention of killing people. That still doesn't make it any less of the mass killer it ends up being. Does it make any difference to the victims family if their loved one died to a copper bullet or a steel car? ffs death by car is waaaaaaaaay more frequent than death by bullet so lets ban cars too! \o/
Originally by: Alchemist Zemont And with that I am of to bed,
Well the good thing is that if you are really stoned you won't remember this thread when you wake up. +1 pot!
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Most of the javelina/boar in the western US are feral and as such their meat is poisonous to eat. I butchered it to find the bullets but the meat was literally green from the interstitial mucus content. Otherwise I'd have BBQed it. Wild boar tend to be a little stringy however.
Holy ****, you really are a survivalist psychopath.
Do you live in a shack in the woods?
Yes I live in a straw shack with curing pelts on the walls for insulation and only eat what I kill over an open fire on a wooden spit. Trust me the internats was a total ***** to run out to the wilderness. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Most of the javelina/boar in the western US are feral and as such their meat is poisonous to eat. I butchered it to find the bullets but the meat was literally green from the interstitial mucus content. Otherwise I'd have BBQed it. Wild boar tend to be a little stringy however.
Holy ****, you really are a survivalist psychopath.
Do you live in a shack in the woods? Do you have floorplans for federal government buildings?
I actually LOLed. I'm curious, how would the above make you think that I'm a 'survivalist psychopath', and what does being a survivalist have to do with being a psychopath, or vise versa?
Knowing not to eat green meat is hardly being a survivalist. It's like those crazy icelanders over there who don't eat green shark meat (not that the shark meat is green, but that it's from the green shark) because it's acidic and poisonous so they have to ferment it first. That makes them survivalists? Or psychopaths? -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
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Pyrhus Taavi
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:09:00 -
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The part that tipped me off was the gun ownership, and hatred of the federal government.
Also shooting an animal and butchering it to retrive the ammunition.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus It's like those crazy icelanders over there who don't eat green shark meat (not that the shark meat is green, but that it's from the green shark) because it's acidic and poisonous so they have to ferment it first. That makes them survivalists? Or psychopaths?
Ohh! Oh! this is a trick question!
Yes they are survivalists for having to figure out a way to make the meat of a poisonous shark edible so they could have enough to eat. Yes they are pschopaths because they 'still' eat the stuff even though they have the option of modern food production and its massive selection of oh so good non urine fermented viddles.

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 18/02/2010 04:23:59
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi The part that tipped me off was the gun ownership
Oh get over it already..
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi and hatred of the federal government.
You would start to hate it too with all the crap its tried to pull over the last few decades. Seems everyone including the rest of the world has forgotten this greatest of americans words which are still just as valid for your country whatever it might be as it is for mine.
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Also shooting an animal and butchering it to retrive the ammunition.
Yes because its just sooooo adorable when a feral male javelina in a typical hoggish hormonal rage bursts out of a thicket to sink its cute little teeth into your hide. You must be an urban basement dweller mate who thinks that food comes from the grocery store. Its the only explanation.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Pyrhus Taavi
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:28:00 -
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Food also doesn't come from people killing animals that they know to be inedible.
Outside of feeding yourself, food doesn't come from hunting at all. But please, continue to try and justify owning a weapon.
Linkage Bellum irl?
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Barbens
Golden Horse Trading Company Electric Monkey Overlords
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox Ill stick with my m1 grand.
Indeed...do you have the matching carbine as well?
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:38:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi The part that tipped me off was the gun ownership, and hatred of the federal government.
Also shooting an animal and butchering it to retrive the ammunition.
Where are you getting this 'hatred of the federal government'?
And as far as shooting the Javelina, it continued to approach me after I moved down the trail I was hiking on twice. I shot it because it was probably going to try and chew on my leg. They do eat meat FYI. They kill dogs and cats around here all the time.
As for 'retrieving the ammo', I'm always interested in recovering projectiles to examine their performance on a particular target. I was a medic in the military for six years as well as doing multiple engineering projects concerning small arms ammunition, so I have a professional interest as well as a personal one.
You sound like you're a psychopath to me. You clearly have an irrational fear of weapons and are extremely neurotic and an unstable sociopath since you clearly assume that anyone except yourself is unsafe and can't be trusted. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
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Pyrhus Taavi
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus
You sound like you're a psychopath to me. You clearly have an irrational fear of weapons and are extremely neurotic and an unstable sociopath since you clearly assume that anyone except yourself is unsafe and can't be trusted.
Says the guy who carries a pistol with him in public.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
You sound like you're a psychopath to me. You clearly have an irrational fear of weapons and are extremely neurotic and an unstable sociopath since you clearly assume that anyone except yourself is unsafe and can't be trusted.
Says the guy who carries a pistol with him in public.
Do you have a fire extinguisher at your home? -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Food also doesn't come from people killing animals that they know to be inedible.
What in blazes does food have to do with killing a charging animal that could actually kill you if it can get to your throat which after it hamstrings you would not be too far off in the realm of possibilities. Let alone the potential for a lethal massive bacterial infection you could get even if it only 'wounds' you by taking a chunk out of a lower extremity. That he inspected it to see if it was edible was simply making the best of the situation. Pyrhus Taavi: Urban carebear status confirmed.
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Outside of feeding yourself, food doesn't come from hunting at all.
No it comes from an industialized system of heartless efficient mass killing where live animals are raised in cramped horrid non natural conditions then when they come of age are sent into a nightmare machine from a horror movie that turns a terrified animal into hamburger or pork chops or some chicken parts for your kfc. That is definitely the way to humanely aquire your food yessireee. Somehow I think the deer and other animals that hunters kill to help keep the general population in check due to lack of natural predators is a much better overall life experiance for them.
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi But please, continue to try and justify owning a weapon.
I could run off endless valid justifications but really the only one that matters atm is the one I just gave you in the first reply on this post.
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Linkage Bellum irl?
LOL!
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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JordanParey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:48:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
You sound like you're a psychopath to me. You clearly have an irrational fear of weapons and are extremely neurotic and an unstable sociopath since you clearly assume that anyone except yourself is unsafe and can't be trusted.
Says the guy who carries a pistol with him in public.
By this logic, police officers, the military, and security guards are also not to be trusted. 
*****, please.
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Fumitsugu
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.02.18 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: JordanParey
By this logic, police officers, the military, and security guards are also not to be trusted. 
*****, please.
Would you trust him? Really?
Let's face it. Guns are the perfect weapon for morbidly obese forum epeen wavers. The fathers were really thinking ahead there 
Also, you'd think that the backward inhabitants of small, cramped, countries (Europeans) would suffer more stress (as a result of their awful, unconstitutional living conditions) than their American friends living wild on the prairies, thusly leading to the stom of unarmed violence envisioned by Zeba.
But, we seem to get along fine(ish).
Then again, what would I know. I live in a country even more violent than America Gotta love the soviet heritage.
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Digital Solaris
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.02.18 08:46:00 -
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soldieroffortune 258
Gallente Trinity Council
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Posted - 2010.02.18 09:35:00 -
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This thread is quite amusing
Makes me want to go to the new shooting park they just opened up earlier this month. Please re-size your signature to a maximum of 400 x 120 with the file size not exceeding 24000 bytes.Applebabe
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Alchemist Zemont
Gallente Hysteria Nexus
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Posted - 2010.02.18 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: Fumitsugu
Originally by: JordanParey
By this logic, police officers, the military, and security guards are also not to be trusted. 
*****, please.
Would you trust him? Really?
Let's face it. Guns are the perfect weapon for morbidly obese forum epeen wavers. The fathers were really thinking ahead there 
Also, you'd think that the backward inhabitants of small, cramped, countries (Europeans) would suffer more stress (as a result of their awful, unconstitutional living conditions) than their American friends living wild on the prairies, thusly leading to the stom of unarmed violence envisioned by Zeba.
But, we seem to get along fine(ish).
Then again, what would I know. I live in a country even more violent than America Gotta love the soviet heritage.
Well at least Russians are hot, wish I could say the same for USA
Yup double standards but true XD ______________________________________ Due to a high amount of tears and childish behaviour I wont say anything negative, wouldnt want to make anymore people cry :'( |

Wrayeth
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.02.18 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 18/02/2010 16:18:45
Originally by: Bellum Eternus And as far as shooting the Javelina, it continued to approach me after I moved down the trail I was hiking on twice. I shot it because it was probably going to try and chew on my leg. They do eat meat FYI. They kill dogs and cats around here all the time.
Notice how Pyrhus completely failed to acknowledge the validity of using a gun to shoot an animal in self defense after reading this remark? I quote:
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Says the guy who carries a pistol with him in public.
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Kijo Rikki
Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees
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Posted - 2010.02.18 16:39:00 -
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Quote:
Pot is the cause of moar fatal accidents
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.02.18 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Food also doesn't come from people killing animals that they know to be inedible.
Outside of feeding yourself, food doesn't come from hunting at all. But please, continue to try and justify owning a weapon.
http://www.examiner.com/x-5619-Atlanta-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2010m2d18-Open-carry-deters-armed-robbery-in-Kennesaw
-- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
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