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sutty	Posted - 2004.11.26 23:49:00 - [241] Edited by: sutty on 27/11/2004 00:02:34 Yes, But lets be truethul you said you would bring it and you didn't, infact you avoided directly conflict with evol for along time.
sutty	Posted - 2004.11.26 23:49:00 - [242] Edited by: sutty on 27/11/2004 00:02:34 Yes, But lets be truethul you said you would bring it and you didn't, infact you avoided directly conflict with evol for along time.
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.11.26 23:58:00 - [243] Originally by: sutty Yes, But lets be truthly you said you would bring it and you didn't, infact you avoided directly conflict with evol for along time. I think you'll find that when we actually found an evol gang that weren't just interested in making pretty colours on the map we brought it pretty damn well. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2004.11.26 23:58:00 - [244] Originally by: sutty Yes, But lets be truthly you said you would bring it and you didn't, infact you avoided directly conflict with evol for along time. I think you'll find that when we actually found an evol gang that weren't just interested in making pretty colours on the map we brought it pretty damn well. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
Morela	Posted - 2004.11.26 23:59:00 - [245] Edited by: Morela on 27/11/2004 00:01:40 Originally by: Sally Originally by: sutty I dont have to pretend, I aint the one who is flamming. You naturaly envy what you can never be. Flaming? How is stating a fact flaming. If you can't face the reality (Evolution = pirates) then you have a problem, not me. Envy... Yeah. Envy some disordered pirating megalomanicas. Uh uh. I envy a lot of people for their gifts, but surely nothing connected with EVE. Eod for me. BOB aren't pirates. Pirates kill for profit, Bob kills for fun :) http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9594/gunman6yh.gif
Morela	Posted - 2004.11.26 23:59:00 - [246] Edited by: Morela on 27/11/2004 00:01:40 Originally by: Sally Originally by: sutty I dont have to pretend, I aint the one who is flamming. You naturaly envy what you can never be. Flaming? How is stating a fact flaming. If you can't face the reality (Evolution = pirates) then you have a problem, not me. Envy... Yeah. Envy some disordered pirating megalomanicas. Uh uh. I envy a lot of people for their gifts, but surely nothing connected with EVE. Eod for me. BOB aren't pirates. Pirates kill for profit, Bob kills for fun :) http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9594/gunman6yh.gif
DirtyHarry	Posted - 2004.11.27 00:04:00 - [247] Originally by: KIAInkZ Edited by: KIAInkZ on 26/11/2004 23:48:55 FU/CoD/UNICOR/NSA/ABC/DEF/GHI were/are either very neive, stupid, or neive and stupid, and deserve everything they get. We were working to a full on peaceful solution in the north which was beginning to take form, but you chose Jericho Chaos. Live with it. Inkz is my ***, that is all -Havo ------------------- Sig: Mirus Crosius <3 DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A Fk
DirtyHarry	Posted - 2004.11.27 00:04:00 - [248] Originally by: KIAInkZ Edited by: KIAInkZ on 26/11/2004 23:48:55 FU/CoD/UNICOR/NSA/ABC/DEF/GHI were/are either very neive, stupid, or neive and stupid, and deserve everything they get. We were working to a full on peaceful solution in the north which was beginning to take form, but you chose Jericho Chaos. Live with it. Inkz is my ***, that is all -Havo ------------------- Sig: Mirus Crosius <3 DirtyHarry ~ Havocide - WoWing It Up, Not Givin A Fk
Deathwing	Posted - 2004.11.27 03:24:00 - [249] Originally by: Morela Edited by: Morela on 27/11/2004 00:01:40 Originally by: Sally Originally by: sutty I dont have to pretend, I aint the one who is flamming. You naturaly envy what you can never be. Flaming? How is stating a fact flaming. If you can't face the reality (Evolution = pirates) then you have a problem, not me. Envy... Yeah. Envy some disordered pirating megalomanicas. Uh uh. I envy a lot of people for their gifts, but surely nothing connected with EVE. Eod for me. BOB aren't pirates. Pirates kill for profit, Bob kills for fun :) Finaly someone gets it <Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS
Deathwing	Posted - 2004.11.27 03:24:00 - [250] Originally by: Morela Edited by: Morela on 27/11/2004 00:01:40 Originally by: Sally Originally by: sutty I dont have to pretend, I aint the one who is flamming. You naturaly envy what you can never be. Flaming? How is stating a fact flaming. If you can't face the reality (Evolution = pirates) then you have a problem, not me. Envy... Yeah. Envy some disordered pirating megalomanicas. Uh uh. I envy a lot of people for their gifts, but surely nothing connected with EVE. Eod for me. BOB aren't pirates. Pirates kill for profit, Bob kills for fun :) Finaly someone gets it <Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.11.27 03:35:00 - [251] Originally by: Sally LOL. Newsflash, Evolution are plain and simple pirates. Knew that short after the game went live. Well after flying side by side with Evolution for almost a year now, I cant recall a time when they have ever tolled someone at a gate. Disordered? Id argue Evolution are among one of the best if not THE best organised Corporation in EVE, their success and the fact they are still going has come directly from their supreme organisation and comradery. Anyway, Im tired and cba to type anymore Ciao. Sass Arcane Technologies
Sassinak	Posted - 2004.11.27 03:35:00 - [252] Originally by: Sally LOL. Newsflash, Evolution are plain and simple pirates. Knew that short after the game went live. Well after flying side by side with Evolution for almost a year now, I cant recall a time when they have ever tolled someone at a gate. Disordered? Id argue Evolution are among one of the best if not THE best organised Corporation in EVE, their success and the fact they are still going has come directly from their supreme organisation and comradery. Anyway, Im tired and cba to type anymore Ciao. Sass Arcane Technologies
Leitari	Posted - 2004.11.27 03:57:00 - [253] People are too serious. As long as you can drink a pint with me at the next fanfest Im cool with whatever, if you cant then thats your problem and you obviously need to unplug for a while. What all this means is > politics sux, my hand on the trigger pwns. Here, Only the silent survive.
Leitari	Posted - 2004.11.27 03:57:00 - [254] People are too serious. As long as you can drink a pint with me at the next fanfest Im cool with whatever, if you cant then thats your problem and you obviously need to unplug for a while. What all this means is > politics sux, my hand on the trigger pwns. Here, Only the silent survive.
The End	Posted - 2004.11.27 04:12:00 - [255] Originally by: Morela Edited by: Morela on 27/11/2004 00:01:40 Originally by: Sally Originally by: sutty I dont have to pretend, I aint the one who is flamming. You naturaly envy what you can never be. Flaming? How is stating a fact flaming. If you can't face the reality (Evolution = pirates) then you have a problem, not me. Envy... Yeah. Envy some disordered pirating megalomanicas. Uh uh. I envy a lot of people for their gifts, but surely nothing connected with EVE. Eod for me. BOB aren't pirates. Pirates kill for profit, Bob kills for fun :) You obviously dont know what a pirate in the game is...
The End	Posted - 2004.11.27 04:12:00 - [256] Originally by: Morela Edited by: Morela on 27/11/2004 00:01:40 Originally by: Sally Originally by: sutty I dont have to pretend, I aint the one who is flamming. You naturaly envy what you can never be. Flaming? How is stating a fact flaming. If you can't face the reality (Evolution = pirates) then you have a problem, not me. Envy... Yeah. Envy some disordered pirating megalomanicas. Uh uh. I envy a lot of people for their gifts, but surely nothing connected with EVE. Eod for me. BOB aren't pirates. Pirates kill for profit, Bob kills for fun :) You obviously dont know what a pirate in the game is...
Xendie	Posted - 2004.11.27 04:53:00 - [257] bob sucks and larry pwns anyone and now ill get back to drinking.
Xendie	Posted - 2004.11.27 04:53:00 - [258] bob sucks and larry pwns anyone and now ill get back to drinking.
Morela	Posted - 2004.11.27 05:40:00 - [259] Originally by: The End Originally by: Morela Edited by: Morela on 27/11/2004 00:01:40 Originally by: Sally Originally by: sutty I dont have to pretend, I aint the one who is flamming. You naturaly envy what you can never be. Flaming? How is stating a fact flaming. If you can't face the reality (Evolution = pirates) then you have a problem, not me. Envy... Yeah. Envy some disordered pirating megalomanicas. Uh uh. I envy a lot of people for their gifts, but surely nothing connected with EVE. Eod for me. BOB aren't pirates. Pirates kill for profit, Bob kills for fun :) You obviously dont know what a pirate in the game is... Now now... Bob will kill you if your in a newbie ship. Do they want that 1 trit in your hold? :) Now if they're selling corpses well. That's a whole new type of alliance there. And i must admit.. that would sound kinda cool considering I just got done vampire bloodlines.. lol Mmmmm bloood.. http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9594/gunman6yh.gif
Morela	Posted - 2004.11.27 05:40:00 - [260] Originally by: The End Originally by: Morela Edited by: Morela on 27/11/2004 00:01:40 Originally by: Sally Originally by: sutty I dont have to pretend, I aint the one who is flamming. You naturaly envy what you can never be. Flaming? How is stating a fact flaming. If you can't face the reality (Evolution = pirates) then you have a problem, not me. Envy... Yeah. Envy some disordered pirating megalomanicas. Uh uh. I envy a lot of people for their gifts, but surely nothing connected with EVE. Eod for me. BOB aren't pirates. Pirates kill for profit, Bob kills for fun :) You obviously dont know what a pirate in the game is... Now now... Bob will kill you if your in a newbie ship. Do they want that 1 trit in your hold? :) Now if they're selling corpses well. That's a whole new type of alliance there. And i must admit.. that would sound kinda cool considering I just got done vampire bloodlines.. lol Mmmmm bloood.. http://img95.exs.cx/img95/9594/gunman6yh.gif
TWD	Posted - 2004.11.27 05:58:00 - [261] I guess planning against us wasn't that a good idea, eh ?
TWD	Posted - 2004.11.27 05:58:00 - [262] I guess planning against us wasn't that a good idea, eh ?
theRaptor	Posted - 2004.11.27 06:41:00 - [263] WTF are you blubbering about? It is 0.0 there is no law, therefore piracy cannot be performed out there. Yes ASS are pirates and if you paid attention you would notice they kill in empire. The fact is that most "noob" pilots and neutrals flying around 0.0 are actually spies, and the people who have made territorial claims have a right to keep there systems clear of spies. You are just a carebear who doesnt want to be shot at as he goes steals ore and kills NPC's in someone elses systems. If you dont want to not be shot at pay for a hunting or mining pass which are pretty damn cheap. Or just wait for those 4-6 hours before downtime when the north has about 4 pilots in it. --------------------------------------------------
theRaptor	Posted - 2004.11.27 06:41:00 - [264] WTF are you blubbering about? It is 0.0 there is no law, therefore piracy cannot be performed out there. Yes ASS are pirates and if you paid attention you would notice they kill in empire. The fact is that most "noob" pilots and neutrals flying around 0.0 are actually spies, and the people who have made territorial claims have a right to keep there systems clear of spies. You are just a carebear who doesnt want to be shot at as he goes steals ore and kills NPC's in someone elses systems. If you dont want to not be shot at pay for a hunting or mining pass which are pretty damn cheap. Or just wait for those 4-6 hours before downtime when the north has about 4 pilots in it. --------------------------------------------------
Ordo Abchao	Posted - 2004.11.27 07:41:00 - [265] There are pirates in eve, and bob aren't pirates, if they were, than people wouldn't be saying that pirating is a dying profession as there are a very large number of bob members. What is 'the bob'? 'The bob' is a conglomerate of few corps with a disliking for politics and a joy for destruction. 'The bob' is native to the northern regions and can usualy be found in and around bkg 'The bob' has been known to leave its nitch to find food to help it through the long hibernations that happen through lack of activity. 'The bob' is very soft and cuddly and does enjoy a good c4k3 (and pi3 every now and then...) End of profile. Order out of Chaos
Ordo Abchao	Posted - 2004.11.27 07:41:00 - [266] There are pirates in eve, and bob aren't pirates, if they were, than people wouldn't be saying that pirating is a dying profession as there are a very large number of bob members. What is 'the bob'? 'The bob' is a conglomerate of few corps with a disliking for politics and a joy for destruction. 'The bob' is native to the northern regions and can usualy be found in and around bkg 'The bob' has been known to leave its nitch to find food to help it through the long hibernations that happen through lack of activity. 'The bob' is very soft and cuddly and does enjoy a good c4k3 (and pi3 every now and then...) End of profile. Order out of Chaos
Deathwing	Posted - 2004.11.27 08:58:00 - [267] WE ARE TEH BOB RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.....UR C00KIES AND CAKE WILL BE ADDED TO OUR OWN <Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS
Deathwing	Posted - 2004.11.27 08:58:00 - [268] WE ARE TEH BOB RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.....UR C00KIES AND CAKE WILL BE ADDED TO OUR OWN <Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS
Muthsera	Posted - 2004.11.27 11:19:00 - [269] Originally by: SirMolle Originally by: slothe Maybe the only way in this game to hold an alliance effectively is to rule by the gun like CA with despotic leadership (points at sirmolle). However personally i prefer a more advanced political structure like democracy more to my taste. The only law that applies in this game and environment, is the ones you can enforce. Our stance is and has always been, mess with us, and we mess with you, albeit harder. Fire 1 shot at us, and we fire 1000 at you. Kill one of our ships and you wont ever be able to relax. That is our law. And we enforce it. Anyone who is not comfortable with it, are free to try and enforce some other law on us. We don't do NAP's, we dont do MDP, we dont keep allies. We keep friends who we die for, and friends who die for us. Very simple really. Disclaimer.. This is my view and not the offecial view of NSA. To me this is just such a mideval way of thinking it's incredible it's still gets ppl's attention. It's nothing more than "Gunboat" diplomasy. And I'll restrain from posting what I really mean about it. However, I'll treat it serius. And get to the problem at hand. Even if you understand it or not molle. As long as you have this view BoB will never be a general alligence. And the only way for this to work is if your alligence has a topped structure. Call it dictatorship, if you like. And you seround yourself whit likeminded ppl. That don't really question your judgement. And is the only way you can use your "an eye for an eye and a bit more" view. And the only way to keep it, is to use out of view diplomasy, and espionage. To be honnest I really respect the level of play you have on that. But to be a general alligence will mean losing your view on this. Becus you can only dominate the industrial side so long. My view is that, bob is defenetly a player. But as long as you hold this totalrian view whitin your alligence you'll never be more than a nusiance to other alligences. Becus that is where you are right now. What friends do you have left? (in north) The only ones who are interested in your friendship is alligences and corps that want to use you for they're own self interest. Or becus of the fear of bob. But then again this is a game. Not the stability of the western world pre 20th century. But that doesn't mean it has no merrit in this game. It's probobly "the game" whit most debth. (thanks ccp) So. Lets get to the problem at hand. You can justify this war all you want. It doesn't really make a diffrence. Anyway you twist and turn your reasons for going to war. It still doesn't change the fact that we bought knew this whould eventually come. The credit is to NSA for not going into Branch after the FA insident. Call us chickens for it, but still it's shows our intent for resolve. But that doesn't mean we didn't plan for war. WTF do you take us for? A bunch of idiots? Well. So be it. (you don't really have to awnser that, I already know the awnser) At any case. We knew as well that the war whould come when sir molle here found it convinient to do so. (can anyone see a pathern here?) Using RN insident in pb as an excuse really didn't suprice any of us. And now you expect us to give up friends? Come ann, are you really that stupid, to actually think we whould give up our own security? Whit that I don't mean FU. But the honnor in our friendships. Where is your honnor btw? The fact of the matter is Molle, that your in this game for "the fun of the war". And you use diplomasy, espionage and friendships as the means to acomplish this. Even though the insident in Lek here the other day was quite fun. We got our ass kicked, but still. Very good fun. All respect for your abillities guys. I was sure we whould come out on top on that one. (I've come to hate dual mwd cruisers) But we are and will be a general alligence. And our own security will always be our abillity to compromise. The only problem is. We can't compromise in this war Molle. The only solution is for BoB to back down in this war. We'll not give in to domination. It's as simple as that. So I feel the issue comes down to who of us have the best stemina. Feel free to disagree. And may I just say one more thing.. Let the flames begin. Yours sinserly Muthsera. SoonÖ
Muthsera	Posted - 2004.11.27 11:19:00 - [270] Originally by: SirMolle Originally by: slothe Maybe the only way in this game to hold an alliance effectively is to rule by the gun like CA with despotic leadership (points at sirmolle). However personally i prefer a more advanced political structure like democracy more to my taste. The only law that applies in this game and environment, is the ones you can enforce. Our stance is and has always been, mess with us, and we mess with you, albeit harder. Fire 1 shot at us, and we fire 1000 at you. Kill one of our ships and you wont ever be able to relax. That is our law. And we enforce it. Anyone who is not comfortable with it, are free to try and enforce some other law on us. We don't do NAP's, we dont do MDP, we dont keep allies. We keep friends who we die for, and friends who die for us. Very simple really. Disclaimer.. This is my view and not the offecial view of NSA. To me this is just such a mideval way of thinking it's incredible it's still gets ppl's attention. It's nothing more than "Gunboat" diplomasy. And I'll restrain from posting what I really mean about it. However, I'll treat it serius. And get to the problem at hand. Even if you understand it or not molle. As long as you have this view BoB will never be a general alligence. And the only way for this to work is if your alligence has a topped structure. Call it dictatorship, if you like. And you seround yourself whit likeminded ppl. That don't really question your judgement. And is the only way you can use your "an eye for an eye and a bit more" view. And the only way to keep it, is to use out of view diplomasy, and espionage. To be honnest I really respect the level of play you have on that. But to be a general alligence will mean losing your view on this. Becus you can only dominate the industrial side so long. My view is that, bob is defenetly a player. But as long as you hold this totalrian view whitin your alligence you'll never be more than a nusiance to other alligences. Becus that is where you are right now. What friends do you have left? (in north) The only ones who are interested in your friendship is alligences and corps that want to use you for they're own self interest. Or becus of the fear of bob. But then again this is a game. Not the stability of the western world pre 20th century. But that doesn't mean it has no merrit in this game. It's probobly "the game" whit most debth. (thanks ccp) So. Lets get to the problem at hand. You can justify this war all you want. It doesn't really make a diffrence. Anyway you twist and turn your reasons for going to war. It still doesn't change the fact that we bought knew this whould eventually come. The credit is to NSA for not going into Branch after the FA insident. Call us chickens for it, but still it's shows our intent for resolve. But that doesn't mean we didn't plan for war. WTF do you take us for? A bunch of idiots? Well. So be it. (you don't really have to awnser that, I already know the awnser) At any case. We knew as well that the war whould come when sir molle here found it convinient to do so. (can anyone see a pathern here?) Using RN insident in pb as an excuse really didn't suprice any of us. And now you expect us to give up friends? Come ann, are you really that stupid, to actually think we whould give up our own security? Whit that I don't mean FU. But the honnor in our friendships. Where is your honnor btw? The fact of the matter is Molle, that your in this game for "the fun of the war". And you use diplomasy, espionage and friendships as the means to acomplish this. Even though the insident in Lek here the other day was quite fun. We got our ass kicked, but still. Very good fun. All respect for your abillities guys. I was sure we whould come out on top on that one. (I've come to hate dual mwd cruisers) But we are and will be a general alligence. And our own security will always be our abillity to compromise. The only problem is. We can't compromise in this war Molle. The only solution is for BoB to back down in this war. We'll not give in to domination. It's as simple as that. So I feel the issue comes down to who of us have the best stemina. Feel free to disagree. And may I just say one more thing.. Let the flames begin. Yours sinserly Muthsera. SoonÖ

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