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SlayerOfArgus
Gallente
For The Booze
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:44:00 -
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I am willing to provide any proof, within reason, to show that I am not in fact an alt of itsassassin. Again my reasons for wanting to sell my shares is just so I can try and get back into trading again.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:51:00 -
[122]
 Originally by: ITSAssassin
Where is a reference for all the things that a scammer does? Thread link plz.
The best guides are your own common sense and, shockingly, just being open, straightforward, and honest throughout. Attempting to expand 8 days after getting everyone's money and having your friends cashout their supporting investment breaks all 4 of these simple guidelines.
It's not my job to tell you in advance how to avoid appearing like a scammer.
Originally by: ITSAssassin
Until you provide a reference for me to make sure i'm not "acting like a scammer," STFU and GTFO of my thread.
No.
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:58:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark
Originally by: ITSAssassin
Where is a reference for all the things that a scammer does? Thread link plz.
The best guides are your own common sense and, shockingly, just being open, straightforward, and honest throughout. Attempting to expand 8 days after getting everyone's money and having your friends cashout their supporting investment breaks all 4 of these simple guidelines.
It's not my job to tell you in advance how to avoid appearing like a scammer.
Originally by: ITSAssassin
Until you provide a reference for me to make sure i'm not "acting like a scammer," STFU and GTFO of my thread.
No.
Oh SetrakDark, you're so defiant.
ITSAssassin slaps Setrak. Bad bad.
SlayerOfArgus is in no way my friend. He is one of the three people who caused me to leave my alliance. TBH, i'm quite glad you're trolling this thread Setrak, because he's not going to be able to liquidate with all this talk of SCAM, PONZI, I R DEFIANT. You gain +1 for making it hard for Slayer to liquidate, and -1 for saying i'm a scammer. Which equals 0 (omg, I can countz). It's almost as if you never trolled my thread 
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Taram Caldar
Blackwater USA Inc.
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.03.21 05:16:00 -
[124]
I'd recommend just ignoring Setrak. He's paranoid... and a troll. sometimes he makes good points but usually he's just a troll.
Cosmo is along the same lines. Paranoid... wise.... but a troll at the end of the day typically.
Both are quite capable of both giving good advice and giving constructive criticism. They just.... generally don't anymore.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.21 05:34:00 -
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Originally by: Taram Caldar
I'd recommend just ignoring Setrak. He's paranoid... and a troll. sometimes he makes good points but usually he's just a troll.
Cosmo is along the same lines. Paranoid... wise.... but a troll at the end of the day typically.
Both are quite capable of both giving good advice and giving constructive criticism. They just.... generally don't anymore.
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.03.21 06:25:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Taram Caldar
Edited by: Taram Caldar on 21/03/2010 05:36:10
1. Before you've even paid your first public dividends you were talking about expanding
2. However, owning up before anyone in MD said anything about it, that you've left your alliance was honest... and I appreciate honesty.
3. Backing off from your planned expansion with the explanation about it was good as well.
4. The only thing really fishy anymore is the guy trying to liquidate. I'm not sure what to tell you there.
5. Full api's from him might help but frankly anyone can get around api key checks for alts if they really want to. So I'm affraid you're stuck with that one.
6. I still don't think it's a ponzi though.
If it were it'd have been for a hell of a lot more than 150 mil in shares.
1. Aside from a few occasional reads on the MD section, I am almost clueless what is considered to be Scam related behaviour. So I apologize for my ignorance. I wanted to expand b/c my alliance could have used someone supplying them with cheaper Hulks.
2. As do I, and that's why I get highly offended when people call me a liar, scammer, and someone trying to ponzi scheme MD; which slahes at my trustworthiness and reptuation. I have been completely honest with everything I've said.
3. It was no longer needed, so there was no point to expand. If I decide to expand in the future, I WILL BEoffering an option for current investors to cash out before the expansion happens. I have no problem with this because I'm not going to scam.
4. I think he invested as a friend (when we were friends), and wanted to help me out with an investment. Now that we are not friends in any way, I assume he's trying to liquidate. This may or may not be correct.
5. What he does is his business. I don't care one way or another if he decides to give his Full APIs. Because of what happened before I left, I hope it's hard for him to liquidate, so he's on his own.
6. Agreed. If I wanted to scam, I could have done it already.
My actions will speak for themselves. Riethe has already been proven wrong, and SetrakDark will be next. How many more trollers will post in my IPO's thread and be proven wrong is unknown, but rest assured you will be proven wrong.
ITSAssassin
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Glospey
Airom and Rodnog Ltd.
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Posted - 2010.03.25 01:08:00 -
[127]
This post is wrong.
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ITSAssassin
Silentium Mortalitas
Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2010.03.26 06:17:00 -
[128]
Edited by: ITSAssassin on 26/03/2010 06:17:48
Just an update about corp changes..
My main has joined a pvp alliance.
My alt is now CEO of Royal.
ITSAssassin does not touch anything of value in regards to this business (meaning my alt is free from attack, war decs, etc etc.)....
Interest payouts are around the corner. Thought i'd let everyone know.
ITSAssassin
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bootymagick
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Posted - 2010.03.28 23:25:00 -
[129]
Well I'm happy to see payments are around the corner :)
Anyways your former alliance is now disbanding just to let you know.
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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2010.03.28 23:50:00 -
[130]
He accidentally his whole alliance!!!
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ITSAssassin
Silentium Mortalitas
Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2010.03.29 06:06:00 -
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Originally by: Taram Caldar
He accidentally his whole alliance!!!
He (or I) did what? lol, you left out a word
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SlayerOfArgus
Gallente
For The Booze
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Posted - 2010.03.29 14:11:00 -
[132]
Originally by: ITSAssassin
Originally by: Taram Caldar
He accidentally his whole alliance!!!
He (or I) did what? lol, you left out a word
That's forum talk for you lol.
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ITSAssassin
Silentium Mortalitas
Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2010.04.01 23:53:00 -
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Public investors paid. No scamming has taken place. Investors enjoy your first month of interest payouts, and scamsayers, stfu.
ITSAssassin
Popping ships since 2007, and still popping ships today |
FarosWarrior
Amarr
Sonnema
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Posted - 2010.04.02 10:07:00 -
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posting to confirm I have recieved my shares, many thanks
cheers, Faros
"As long as we're jammed we might as well throw those 1400mm's at them"
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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2010.04.02 12:46:00 -
[135]
Confirming isk received.
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ITSAssassin
Silentium Mortalitas
Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2010.04.02 21:58:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Taram Caldar
Confirming isk received.
hehe; tbh, if I were to scam, you would be the only investor to even pay attention to it Tarma lol. Everyone else just forgot that they had money in my fund I think....
Oh well
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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2010.04.02 22:43:00 -
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LOL nah, most people only post when they're investing or unhappy ;) Few bother posting if they're getting their money on time :)
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Annabelle Horiz
New Horizon Investments
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Posted - 2010.04.03 00:50:00 -
[138]
Posting to confirm that I tend not to post to confirm things unless they are going wrong 
Dividend also received - thanks.
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SlayerOfArgus
Gallente
For The Booze
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Posted - 2010.04.03 01:43:00 -
[139]
Haha I didn't even realize that I got it because it's such a small amount that I get, but yes I did receive my interest as well.
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bootymagick
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Posted - 2010.04.03 15:46:00 -
[140]
Posting to confirm interest recieved.. Thank you
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Ren Nekk
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.04.04 09:50:00 -
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Not a MD person - just browsing this thread for fun and lold at ITSAssassis's "expansion". That got me all revved up - hoping, praying that ITSAssassin is some new contrivance of Riethe, here to rip MD off at a pitifully smaller scale. I guess whether or not that is the case still remains to be seen :) but anyway, just a funny thought.
No offense intended ITSAssassin, and that's something which must be clear if you are familiar with Riethe's own infamous IPO.
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Taram Caldar
Royal Black Watch Highlanders
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Posted - 2010.04.04 15:16:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Ren Nekk
I'm just trolling for the sake of trolling
Fixed your post for you.
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ITSAssassin
Silentium Mortalitas
Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2010.04.05 01:29:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Ren Nekk
Not a MD person - just browsing this thread for fun and lold at ITSAssassis's "expansion". That got me all revved up - hoping, praying that ITSAssassin is some new contrivance of Riethe, here to rip MD off at a pitifully smaller scale. I guess whether or not that is the case still remains to be seen :) but anyway, just a funny thought.
No offense intended ITSAssassin, and that's something which must be clear if you are familiar with Riethe's own infamous IPO.
Let me make this VERY CLEAR to everyone who keeps up with my IPO's thread. The ONLY reason I even have an urge or the slightest desire to SCAM my fund is because of stupid troll posts like this (as well as Riethe's and SetrakDark's posts).
I didn't know beforehand the amount of frustration and disappointment that would come along with running a public offering. The amount of work required to defend my trustworthiness and my name has NOT been worth the billions IÆve personally made off of running this fund. Late me say that again: THE ISK HASN'T BEEN WORTH IT. MD is full of people who don't (or choose not to) understand that their posts affect investors DIRECTLY. I've seriously considered scamming this fund a thousand times ONLY because of you morons who troll my thread without evidence to back up your STUPID posts/claims.
MD wants business owners/Bond offerers to come as close to RL operational guidelines as possible, but there's a catch... You want to be able to talk down to these business operators at whim, which is definitely not how RL business criticism works. I mean seriously? At first the information that I offered to potential investors was lacking, but I fixed it because I wanted to run this thing and be successful. But then the SCAM, PONZI Sh!t kept coming...... and IÆm honestly up to the brim with frustration and remorse.
Just a suggestion to all you "MD Elites" out there who are sitting on your high horses. If you want to reduce the amount of scamming that occurs in "your forums," stop harassing all of us business owners who already have our funds full... because the ISK that comes from a Bond offering is NOT worth all the irritation and frustration.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.04.05 01:43:00 -
[144]
Originally by: ITSAssassin
whahn hahn hahn
You tried to almost double the size of your debt 8 days after getting your funding. You have absolutely no one to blame except yourself. Reactions from the investment community in the real world to an analogous situation would be correspondingly similar.
If you don't want to be "hassled" by the fictitious "md elites", then exercise better judgment. Plenty of managers handle billions without raising undue concern by using their common sense.
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ITSAssassin
Silentium Mortalitas
Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2010.04.05 02:01:00 -
[145]
Originally by: SetrakDark
Originally by: ITSAssassin
whahn hahn hahn
You tried to almost double the size of your debt 8 days after getting your funding. You have absolutely no one to blame except yourself. Reactions from the investment community in the real world to an analogous situation would be correspondingly similar.
If you don't want to be "hassled" by the fictitious "md elites", then exercise better judgment. Plenty of managers handle billions without raising undue concern by using their common sense.
Lol, and they keep coming and coming and coming and coming. MD is a broken and highly ineffective way for business owners to raise capital.
In RL, if someone makes an unsubstantiated claim that hurts a business's trustworthiness (mainly through stock prices), then they are allowed to be brought to court and sued for the damages. Since that is not the case on MD, what other route can a business person take? Think about it mr.elite man. You personally are causing the reprecussions that you (and the majority of MD for that matter) so avidly are trying to prevent. I have already explained the reason for my old expansion, that is no longer needed. But instead of making a constructive suggestion to me, you troll the thread with no suggestion in sight. You my man, are just fail at this....
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.04.05 03:08:00 -
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Despite your continuously-demonstrated inability to communicate effectively, I will take the time to address your underlying, though poorly expressed, concern for the sake of others whom are interested. This topic has been covered before and will be covered again, but it's worth repeating in its various forms for the ever-changing general public.
MD works, and works surprisingly well, despite an absolute dearth of information and negligible recourse for righting broken promises or trust. It works because people are allowed to speak their minds and ask questions. This process makes available a huge range of information for decision-makers that would otherwise not be, as well as applying an ideally insurmountable cost to those whom are either unprepared to follow through with what they have presented or are being outright deceptive.
Those people who use this information to make decisions have the choice to ignore the opinions of those whom they believe to be trolls, idiots, etc. Furthermore, managers have the option to ignore, dismiss, partially-address, etc those comments or question that they believe are invalid or inflammatory, though the investor remain the final arbiter of the value of all the manager's actions.
Those of us who regularly take part in this process are well aware of its shortcomings, and we are constantly working to improve it. However, the process's very strength lies in its disorganization and its decentralization. The moment that any random person cannot point out a opinion that is valid to them, the whole thing falls apart.
An unfortunate side-effect of this freedom is the seemingly insulting nature of accusations, inferences, etc, valid or not. However, the simple solution is to keep your cool, use reason, and not to raise suspicion unnecessarily. This behavior does not suit everyone's temperament, nor is it always as easy as it sounds. However, losing potential managers is a small price to pay for an otherwise functioning system. Furthermore, the ability to handle the process shares common traits with the ability to responsibly handle public money, such that often potential managers who are lost to the process are ill-suited for handling public money anyway.
I highly doubt you can respond to this in a way that I'll take seriously, but I will respond if you can. To others who read this, I can elaborate or defend certain points in-game or in a new thread, but I will not in here, as it is not really the appropriate place.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.04.05 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: ITSAssassin
I've seriously considered scamming this fund a thousand times...
That is the bit people will remember. What an incredibly stupid thing to say - more than once.
Here's some free advice.
1. Tranquilo. Chill. Stop allowing other people to dictate your emotions.
2. Think before you post. Then think again. Do not post when ****ed or ****ed off.
3. You have only yourself to blame for your present predicament. Learn from your mistakes, move on. Do not whine, do not try to spread the blame.
4. Running a public offering is not an easy ride. You chose it. You didn't anticipate the headaches. Tough. Just get on with it.
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Ren Nekk
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.04.05 04:59:00 -
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More lols at ISAssassin. You do know Riethe scammed people here with an offer that looked quite like yours (although as he points out, it was written much more intelligently - much more convincingly), right? And that he made a lot of ISK largely because he was successfully able to expand his offering in a manner quite like the manner in which you tried to expand yours?
Seriously, you are projecting yourself as an idiot - get control of yourself. It seems like MD has worked out just fine for you and here you with your brat raving because "MD elites" dare question your credibility. Well, it's pretty clear both from the terms of your IPO and the audit itself that your IPO is high risk. You yourself say you have thought about scamming everyone. Well, it is fully within your power. Go ahead, big guy!
(Seriously, I hope you are Riethe. My dream come true. Madd propz in that case!)
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ITSAssassin
Silentium Mortalitas
Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2010.04.05 05:21:00 -
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Originally by: Ren Nekk
More lols at ISAssassin. You do know Riethe scammed people here with an offer that looked quite like yours (although as he points out, it was written much more intelligently - much more convincingly), right? And that he made a lot of ISK largely because he was successfully able to expand his offering in a manner quite like the manner in which you tried to expand yours?
Seriously, you are projecting yourself as an idiot - get control of yourself. It seems like MD has worked out just fine for you and here you with your brat raving because "MD elites" dare question your credibility. Well, it's pretty clear both from the terms of your IPO and the audit itself that your IPO is high risk. You yourself say you have thought about scamming everyone. Well, it is fully within your power. Go ahead, big guy!
(Seriously, I hope you are Riethe. My dream come true. Madd propz in that case!)
Well, I suppose that everyone has missed the point why I said that I considered scamming. Regardless...
I am officially and publicly confirming I am a Riethe alt.
I am officially and publicly announcing that investors have been scammed.
What makes me laugh is that I already made one full interest payout, and yet MD'ers continued to say that I was going to scam. This makes no sense to me, and you all have shown your inability to fully comprehend how your comments affect a business owner. I, as Riethe, enjoy teaching MD the flaws in your system, and how you can improve for the future.
So take one thing away from this one: stop harrassing business owners or they WILL scam. You never know which Bond offering could be another one of my alts.
It was fun MD, be more careful next time with your flames.
Riethe
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Ren Nekk
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.04.05 05:27:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Ren Nekk on 05/04/2010 05:35:17
LOLOLOLOL.
Waiting for Riethe to confirm, although honestly if I had to bet I'd bet you are not Riethe. Although to be fair Riethe jumped his gun too.
For posterity, let it be noted that Riethe also made interest payments before scamming. That's why the scam was so successful! Too bad you failed at your expansion before scamming - you should have gone ahead and tried to solicit more bids despite all the concern - something I was really hoping to see while I was reading through.
Edit: nice edits there by the way - should have quoted you, I liked the original better.
2nd Edit: btw, you get no propz for scamming if you are not Riethe. In the case that you are not Riethe, it is clear that you are just some random *******. Bravo!
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