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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises Bar-None Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.03 20:16:00 -
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Investors have until 23:25 today eve time to get their investments in, or the fund becomes open to a "first come, first invest" style =P. So that leaves a little over 3hrs before your spot on the list is not given priority.
ITSAssassin
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Regulator6
Minmatar New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2010.03.03 22:37:00 -
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300mil sent. Reduced from 600mil for personal reasons.
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises Bar-None Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.03 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Regulator6 300mil sent. Reduced from 600mil for personal reasons.
Confirming deposit received. Investor ID has been sent via Evemail, spread updated, and shares transferred. You didn't indicate a term, so I put you down for 6 Months. If you want something else let me know. Thank you for your investment.
1,410 million left in open investments. Only 5 Minutes is left for reservations to their investments in. So as of right now, I'm allowing random investments for people who aren't on the list. Get them in before it fills up!!
ITSAssassin Royal M&B Enterprises CEO
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Yldraeth
Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2010.03.03 23:28:00 -
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investing 600 mil wil send once this is confirmed :) (in or out game)
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises Bar-None Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.03 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: ITSAssassin on 03/03/2010 23:45:10
Originally by: Yldraeth investing 600 mil wil send once this is confirmed :) (in or out game)
Confirming 1.41Bil isk worth of shares and investments are still available. Awaiting transfer
EDIT: Confirming 600mil deposit received. Shares transferred, investor ID has been sent via evemail, and spread updated. Thank you for your investment.
There's 810mil left in available investments guys, hurry up before this fund is capped out!!
ITSAssassin Royal M&B Enterprises CEO
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Annabelle Horiz
New Horizon Investments
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Posted - 2010.03.04 08:00:00 -
[96]
I'll take the remaining 810m investment. Please post / evemail confirmation and I will transfer the cash. [NHI] Investing in the sunny days of tomorrow. |

ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises Bar-None Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.04 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Annabelle Horiz I'll take the remaining 810m investment. Please post / evemail confirmation and I will transfer the cash.
Sorry about the wait. I was sleeping . Confirming your reservation of the last 810mil ISK worth of investments. I'll also evemail you a confirmation, so whenever you see this, I'm ready to finalize your investment.
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Annabelle Horiz
New Horizon Investments
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Posted - 2010.03.04 23:08:00 -
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810m sent. Would like the 12 month term please. [NHI] Investing in the sunny days of tomorrow. |

ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises Bar-None Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.04 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Annabelle Horiz 810m sent. Would like the 12 month term please.
Confirming deposit received of 810mil ISK. Shares transferred, spread updated, and investor ID sent via Evemail. I have you down for a 12month term. Thank you again for your investment in Royal Enterprises.
We're all full!! I'd like to thank everyone who has supported me whether it be by investment, or by advice/auditing/investment verfication. I couldn't have done without your support. Now let's make some profits .
BTW Originally by: Riethe It is very unlikely that this person will follow up on receiving a full audit proving his current success, investors, capital, etc. Only time will tell.
HAHA. nuff said
ITSAssassin Royal M&B Enterprises CEO
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.04 23:45:00 -
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lol finally
gratz
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises Bar-None Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.12 21:44:00 -
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All investors with an interest payout date in March have been paid. These are all alliance investors but it's good to give minor updates regardless about the fund.
Most likely investors with interest payout dates in April will receive payouts on April 1st (I joked about this maybe being an April fools joke in my alliance mail, but everyone will just have to see =P).
Updates
In no longer than a month, the fund will be expanding by 3 Billion ISK. This new opening will mainly be for invention (with about 2.5 Billion ISK going to a Researched T1 ship BPO, and 500mil going to startup material costs). Of course an audit will be performed and posted before any new investments will be taken for this expansion.
Further Updates will follow once I have conducted more research on invention. Once again thanks to all private and public investors who made my fund possible. Have a good friday/saturday and weekend in general .
ITSAssassin Royal M&B Enterprises CEO
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Lord Arbalest
Amarr Zero Profits
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Posted - 2010.03.12 21:58:00 -
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Will you be offering current investors a chance to liquidate their investment now you are looking to change the amount of public isk you are taking on and therefore changing the risk levels of this investment?
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises Bar-None Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.13 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Arbalest Edited by: Lord Arbalest on 12/03/2010 23:50:24 Edited by: Lord Arbalest on 12/03/2010 23:50:16
Will you be offering current investors a chance to liquidate their investment now you are looking to change the amount of public isk you are taking on and therefore changing the risk levels of this investment?
Edit: Will this new expansion be treated as a separate bond operation or combined into this one?
Q1: No, the 3 month minimum will still be in effect regardless of an expansion. I feel that me changing the maximum amount of the fund does not create any "new" risks involved for current investors that have deposits in my fund for T1 BC and BS manufacturing. My research related to manufacturing/invention practices is very thorough, so if I was taking any new gambles then I would compensate investors for those new risks.
Additionally, the interest rates i'm offering more than accomodate investors for a no-collateral offering. So that leads me to your Q2.
Q2: This new expansion will be merged with the current T1 BC/BS IPO. As I said above, I feel that 10-15% interest rates after an audit has been performed and my skills and competency have been verified is more than compensating. At least one public interest payout will occur before the fund expands by this 3 Billion ISK, and an audit will be posted (probably by you lol).
Of course if MD requires minor changes to my expansion, then I will comply since this is your money that I'm asking for (and some alliance money but regardless =P). This post reflects how I would wish my expansion to occur, which IMO is the simplest way to handle a new addition to the Royal Industrial Fund. Any comments about general practice guidelines that I don't know about yet are much appreciated.
Further details will be posted as time goes on. Thanks for the Q's L.A.
ITSAssassin Royal M&B Enterprises CEO
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RAW23
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Posted - 2010.03.13 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: ITSAssassin
Originally by: Lord Arbalest Edited by: Lord Arbalest on 12/03/2010 23:50:24 Edited by: Lord Arbalest on 12/03/2010 23:50:16
Will you be offering current investors a chance to liquidate their investment now you are looking to change the amount of public isk you are taking on and therefore changing the risk levels of this investment?
Edit: Will this new expansion be treated as a separate bond operation or combined into this one?
Q1: No, the 3 month minimum will still be in effect regardless of an expansion. I feel that me changing the maximum amount of the fund does not create any "new" risks involved for current investors that have deposits in my fund for T1 BC and BS manufacturing. My research related to manufacturing/invention practices is very thorough, so if I was taking any new gambles then I would compensate investors for those new risks.
Additionally, the interest rates i'm offering more than accomodate investors for a no-collateral offering. So that leads me to your Q2.
You need to offer a cash out option imo. Investors will have gauged risk based in the initial amount you asked for. Regardless of what you say about business success and the interest rate you offer, the perceived risk that you will walk with the cash does increase as the amount of isk increases.
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises Bar-None Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.13 00:58:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23
Originally by: ITSAssassin
Originally by: Lord Arbalest Edited by: Lord Arbalest on 12/03/2010 23:50:24 Edited by: Lord Arbalest on 12/03/2010 23:50:16
Will you be offering current investors a chance to liquidate their investment now you are looking to change the amount of public isk you are taking on and therefore changing the risk levels of this investment?
Edit: Will this new expansion be treated as a separate bond operation or combined into this one?
Q1: No, the 3 month minimum will still be in effect regardless of an expansion. I feel that me changing the maximum amount of the fund does not create any "new" risks involved for current investors that have deposits in my fund for T1 BC and BS manufacturing. My research related to manufacturing/invention practices is very thorough, so if I was taking any new gambles then I would compensate investors for those new risks.
Additionally, the interest rates i'm offering more than accomodate investors for a no-collateral offering. So that leads me to your Q2.
You need to offer a cash out option imo. Investors will have gauged risk based in the initial amount you asked for. Regardless of what you say about business success and the interest rate you offer, the perceived risk that you will walk with the cash does increase as the amount of isk increases.
Good point, it's something to consider. From what the majority of investors have said to me either on these forums or through PM in game, a cash out option won't be exercised by most, but of course I'm entirely open to the idea of putting the option there just in case there may be that one or two people who wish to use it.
As I have said, I'm asking for public cash, so if there are terms that you (as the investor) wish to have in place, then I'm more than open to accomodate you on them. I have no doubt that after an additional audit has been conducted and 1 or 2 complete interest payouts have occured, that this fund will be full regardless if a few investors withdraw. Thank you for your input Raw.
ITSAssassin Royal M&B Enterprises CEO
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Taram Caldar
Blackwater USA Inc. Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.03.19 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 19/03/2010 13:38:22 Have to agree with both arbalest and raw23
If you are going to expand the fund by an additional 3bil you need to offer a cash out option.
I'm not sure I'd exercize it but a BIG chunk of 'risk' is tied to how much money you can potentially walk away with. Not saying you would. But you need to give us the option if you're going to alter the fund so drastically barely a month after it got rolling.
This is especially true here because when you initially launched the fund you gave no indicator that it would be expanding in the future.
There are several things that determine a long term fund like this is worthy to invest in. Just a few (in no particular order) are below: 1) interest rate 2) is it collateralized? 3) Is it a stable fund (ie is there an opportunity to earn isk off increased value of shares down the road) 4) Size of the fund 5) Likelihood that the business plan will be profitable. 6) Investee's reputation and trustworthiness
You are changing two aspects: 3 & 4 This drastically alters the equation of 'is it safe and can I cut a profit on it if I decide to sell my shares in future'
So, simply put, if you alter your fund you should ALWAYS offer a cash out clause.
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Varo Jan
Caravanserai Consulting
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Posted - 2010.03.19 13:50:00 -
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Originally by: Taram Caldar Have to agree with both arbalest and raw23
If you are going to expand the fund by an additional 3bil you need to offer a cash out option.
This.
You're roughly doubling the offering after only one month of operating. That is significant and premature.
I can't see a list of investors in this thread. You ought to include one and state the full size of the offering in the same post.
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.03.20 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: ITSAssassin on 20/03/2010 22:31:04 Yep, all suggestions have been noted, and I appreciate them greatly.
I just spoke with an investor who reminded me of something. I have left my alliance (Bar-None Nation) because there was an alliance leader change, and I feel they cannot lead the alliance properly (we've already had many arguments). The alliance is essentially in chaos, and many are not happy with the way things are going, me being one of them. A few other corps are planning on leaving (one already left [Bobby Crackles' corp]), so this is not just me.
I am still making great profits without their help (the little bit they offered). Interest payouts for those who have dates in April are just around the corner and will be paid ahead of time.
About the expansion: The fund was going to expand by 3 Billion with no more than 2.5 Billion going to a researched Covetor BPO, and 500mil Isk going towards start up materials.
It is being delayed.
Bar-None Nation have tons of miners that could have benefited from me producing Hulks at a cheaper cost. But now that I'm not a part of them, I see no reason to expand right now. My current project is seeing good returns, so that's good enough for now.
And Varo, the Spreadsheet shows all amounts invested.
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Hammerswift Thunder
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.20 23:49:00 -
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soo is there anyway to get in on this for say the 25mill mark? im not rich and this is all that i can use atm but, i would like to try my hand at this ?
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Legende
Two Brothers Mining Corp. R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.03.21 01:15:00 -
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Hammer, the profit off a 25 million investment amounts to less per month than you can earn running a single L3 mission in 15 minutes. MD bonds/IPOs are more worthwhile once you have at least 100m to invest.
I was hoping to get in on the expansion myself, though more to the tune of 1 billion. Looks like I will need to wait on that... I'll be watching. :)
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SlayerOfArgus
Gallente For The Booze
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Posted - 2010.03.21 01:51:00 -
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If anyone is interested I am selling my 15 shares for 150mil total. Each share is worth 10 mil. Convo or pm me in game to ask about it.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.21 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: SlayerOfArgus If anyone is interested I am selling my 15 shares for 150mil total. Each share is worth 10 mil. Convo or pm me in game to ask about it.
This offer reeks.
There is no one thing that pushes me over, but all told I call ponzi attempt.
I would get my money out of this. The expansion attempt within 8 days of launch is ample justification for getting your money back.
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SlayerOfArgus
Gallente For The Booze
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Posted - 2010.03.21 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark
Originally by: SlayerOfArgus If anyone is interested I am selling my 15 shares for 150mil total. Each share is worth 10 mil. Convo or pm me in game to ask about it.
This offer reeks.
There is no one thing that pushes me over, but all told I call ponzi attempt.
I would get my money out of this. The expansion attempt within 8 days of launch is ample justification for getting your money back.
I am seeking to sell my shares only because I am trying to get some more liquid isk for trading purposes.
While itsassassin left our alliance, it was for personal reasons that do not tie into his business in the slightest. Please do not confuse my backing out for speculation that I think he is unstable in his investment.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.21 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: SlayerOfArgus Please do not confuse my backing out for speculation that I think he is unstable in his investment
I don't. I think the ponzi expansion failed, so you're trying to squeeze as much out of this as possible.
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PuffnSnuff
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Posted - 2010.03.21 02:39:00 -
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Edited by: PuffnSnuff on 21/03/2010 02:40:01 Edited by: PuffnSnuff on 21/03/2010 02:38:52
Originally by: SetrakDark
Originally by: SlayerOfArgus Please do not confuse my backing out for speculation that I think he is unstable in his investment
I don't. I think the ponzi expansion failed, so you're trying to squeeze as much out of this as possible.
There was not a ponzi scheme at all. I've already given my reasons for wishing to sell my shares. If you wish to disagree then so be it.
Edit: This is SlayerOfArgus's alt.
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.21 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: PuffnSnuff If you wish to disagree then so be it.
Gee, thanks. I was worried you weren't going to let me.
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SlayerOfArgus
Gallente For The Booze
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Posted - 2010.03.21 02:44:00 -
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Confirming that PuffnSnuff is my alt.
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark
1.I think the ponzi expansion failed, 2.so you're trying to squeeze as much out of this as possible.
1. What the hell is going on? All of a sudden this is a ponzi shceme because I was looking to expand this offering, and decided against it because I left my alliance, which is the reason I was going to expand anyways?
2. Are you inferring that SlayerOfArgus is an alt of mine? MD ceases to amaze with your constant paranoia. blah blah blah SCAM!!! blah blah blah SCAM!!!
Reflecting on L.A.'s audit warnings: my chance of "burn-out" related to operating my business is not even close in probability to my chance of "burn-out" in defending myself at every turn from people like you Setrak. All of this **** is honestly getting OLD, and is wearing me down FAST. Constructive posts like Raw's and Taram's are what are welcomed because they are constructive and actually say something. "Ponzi Scheme" says nothing, and is not constructive in the LEAST. As you saw above, there are investors willing to see my operation expand. I fail to see how by me offering an expansion is somehow a scheme to scam for more isk.
I honestly think that there is nothing more I can do in order to prove my trustworthiness, so troll away SCAM-sayers. I'm not going to even try and prove you wrong, because you will always exist, and can never be entirely eliminated.
ITSAssassin
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SetrakDark
DarkCorp Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:34:00 -
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Originally by: ITSAssassin boo hoo hoo
Cry more. If you don't want to be called a scammer, then don't act like one. Pretty simple.
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ITSAssassin
Royal Manufacturing and Blueprint Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.03.21 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: SetrakDark
Originally by: ITSAssassin boo hoo hoo
Cry more. If you don't want to be called a scammer, then don't act like one. Pretty simple.
Where is a reference for all the things that a scammer does? Thread link plz. Until you provide a reference for me to make sure i'm not "acting like a scammer," STFU and GTFO of my thread.
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