Propaganda or not, well written and very interesting James 315!

However, your central premise, that Goons heroic resistance of BoB 'saved' the game, exemplified in the following quote



is baldly speculative and quite possibly grossly exaggerative.

Certainly the history is fascinating, and I imagine that your version of it is a reasonably accurate and complete rendition. But stating in such an absolute way that "Goon's resistance" saved the day is over the top.

This sort of rhetoric tends to arouse suspicion and mistrust among the levelheaded neutrals of the universe and seems likely to provide 'ammuntion' for your detractors.

You did a good job of saving up and leaving the most outrageous hyperbole till that final paragraph. But I reckon your overall success at enthralling or beguiling your readers would've been strengthened had you simply said something like:

"By refusing to retreat, and thwarting BoB in its goal of defeating the RSF, Goons certainly contributed decisively to the shape of the EVE online world today. One might even wonder aloud, 'If BoB's dream of total control of EVE had been realized, might EVE online have died as a result?"

There you see? Now instead of making the speculative and empirically untestable _assertion_ that Goons are heroes who saved EVE from death as a game, you simply plant the question in your readers head as to whether Goons MIGHT be the hero

I'd speculate that Goons have the stick-ability to handle a protracted campaign on the other side of the universe. The issue to contend with will be the upcoming tech nerf.

I'm tempted to speculate that controlling Delve is more about moon income diversity than goons are willing to say, but such speculation would be futile.

Speculation? in F20 the CFC dropped a station to stage from....

Not a pos, didnt pick a nearby station, nope they build a "20 Billion Isk staging tower"

Futile because its obvious?

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. They went from being the courageous resistance to becoming the evil empire. They have no one to fight in null-sec so they come to empire to kick the carebears around.

You dont get out much (or in fact read much) do you?

While during that campaign you forgot the part where BoB invaded Tribute and was kicked out by Morsus Mihi......twice.

While most of what James notes is one sided BS, everything you have said is 100% BS.

Oh and End Yourselves, just for old-times sake.

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id speculate that the current war has more potential.

CFC are going head to head with soco. Goons have pissed off a lot of high sec players,. CFC have to be mindful not to get into a trench war or they could find them self fighting a three ground war.

Exciting times

Soco is full of garbage, is currently ceding sov to us, rarely undocking with anything more damaging than stealth bombers (Honestly this is starting to look like IT Alliance part 2). The only chance they had in this war was a strong defense and holding the timers of all systems into euro TZ where we are arguably a lot weaker. Now if they want the space back they are going to have to fight in mid to late US prime... where they can't get the numbers to effectively fight us. The "War" has been mismanaged on their end in the extreme.

See, the thing is BoB didn't have allies, they had pets. Basically *all* the "lol pets!" of today stems from what BoB did. You either did what BoB wanted, or they screwed you over with overwhelming numbers.

The CFC on the other hand are allies of one another, and they don't have an Owner > pet relationship, such that BoB were famous for reveling in.

By "saving EvE" James is talking about putting an end to a trend where the whole of EvE had two choices
a) Sit in highsec
b) Succumbto BoB's way of doing things.

I feel it's an accurate assessment.

An acute analogy might be to look at how Rome treated their Protectorate states, vs how a modern superpower treats an ally, for instance.

Soco is full of garbage, is currently ceding sov to us, rarely undocking with anything more damaging than stealth bombers (Honestly this is starting to look like IT Alliance part 2). The only chance they had in this war was a strong defense and holding the timers of all systems into euro TZ where we are arguably a lot weaker. Now if they want the space back they are going to have to fight in mid to late US prime... where they can't get the numbers to effectively fight us. The "War" has been mismanaged on their end in the extreme.

As far as pissing off highsec players... who cares? Only one or two groups in that entire morass of idiots could slap together a competent fleet composition. A well balanced 255 man fleet with the right logi and support will wipe the floor with whatever pubstar kitchen fleet garbage highsec could throw at us. But feel free to bring out all your officer fit ratting bhalgorns. I'll be sure to quake in my boots in my drake where half the modules were picked off of rats.

If the (ohsobrokenforceprojection) Jump Bridges are up, it'll be a nice highway right to someone's front door.

Hahahaha you almost come off as if you know what you are talking about.

Soco is full of garbage, is currently ceding sov to us, rarely undocking with anything more damaging than stealth bombers (Honestly this is starting to look like IT Alliance part 2). The only chance they had in this war was a strong defense and holding the timers of all systems into euro TZ where we are arguably a lot weaker. Now if they want the space back they are going to have to fight in mid to late US prime... where they can't get the numbers to effectively fight us. The "War" has been mismanaged on their end in the extreme.

there's been tons of line members in SoCo who have expressed a deep desire to actually fight.

They're just not allowed to by -A- leadership

The Op missed a few key points in the history he brought up

1> BoB had a split in Goon swarm is formed
2> Alts in both alliances.
3> Goon leadership passed to the Mittens who also had additional powers granted to an alt of his within BoB
4> The mittens used said alt and stoled the alliance away from the command staff of BoB stealing EVERYTHING
5> The mittens ego is inflated to universal levels as he praised bringing down BoB
6> Many BoB toons sold on character Bazaar as they also buy new toons to hide within GOON Swarm

So i have to think about this some that the Plucky Hero Goon Swarm is in actuallity a wolf in sheeps clothing. and it has been noticed and said that Band of brothers has restarted once again. Check out Etherium reach on dotlan and see who they really are.