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Bootleg Jack
Potters Field
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Posted - 2012.07.30 14:44:00 -
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wow James, thanks for this history I'm an American, English is my second language... |
Freezehunter
249
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Posted - 2012.07.30 14:58:00 -
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Beautiful. Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom. |
Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
73
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:02:00 -
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Not a single **** was given then and now. |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:39:00 -
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Nice read - one sided but nice.
I mainly disagree with these lines:
James 315 wrote: Had the Goons retreated, or had BoB succeeded in its goal of defeating the RSF, it is no exaggeration to say that no one reading this thread would be playing EVE today. BoB's dream of total control of EVE would have been realized, but EVE would have died as a result. And at the time, most agreed that a BoB victory was the most likely outcome of the Great War.
Whilst goons certainly played their part in BoBs demise, BoB would have eventually killed itself, which is what actually happened.
Too many self-inflated egos, too many from the old guard leaving only to be replaced by individual winning team joiners or entire WTJ corps with even more self-inflated but less capable pompous twats as leaders.
BoB in its forming days consisted of highly creative and aggressive players and was actually a really good alliance - T20 or not - but they became fat which lead to a shift in its player base.
The interesting bit is that whilst goons have become the new bob in many ways, their corporate culture keeps them creative and 'fit' as an alliance.
And no - Eve wouldn't have died just as it doesn't die under CFC/OTEC dominance (lol Soco) - most of the playerbase never gave the tiniest feck about who rules Sov 0.0. You know... morons. |
CARB0N FIBER
Derailleurs
38
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Posted - 2012.07.30 15:49:00 -
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TLDR
BOB controlled Eve. Devs left BOB. BOB died. Devs joined GOONS. GOONS control Eve. Some titan died. |
John Rando
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.07.30 16:14:00 -
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Very good read. |
Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.07.30 17:05:00 -
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Large Collidable Object wrote:And no - Eve wouldn't have died just as it doesn't die under CFC/OTEC dominance (lol Soco) - most of the playerbase never gave the tiniest feck about who rules Sov 0.0.
it would have been dead inside though GÇô postum faex est GÇô-á
never forget
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Fatbottom Girl
State War Academy Caldari State
37
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:42:00 -
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Let us all collectively give thanks to Goonswarm Federation for killing BoB, and subsequently killing their resurrected remains for years ever after. |
Mallak Azaria
506
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Posted - 2012.07.30 18:45:00 -
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Ziranda Hakuli wrote:1> BoB had a split in Goon swarm is formed 2> Alts in both alliances. 3> Goon leadership passed to the Mittens who also had additional powers granted to an alt of his within BoB 4> The mittens used said alt and stoled the alliance away from the command staff of BoB stealing EVERYTHING 5> The mittens ego is inflated to universal levels as he praised bringing down BoB 6> Many BoB toons sold on character Bazaar as they also buy new toons to hide within GOON Swarm
It's all good & well to make stuff up in your head, just don't expect people to believe it.
Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
Arkturus McFadden
Sonoran Shadow Black Mesa Complex
142
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Posted - 2012.07.31 21:46:00 -
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A great history lesson
But my question is this..
Now that Goonswarm is systematically conquering region by region.. will the same happen to them? Time will only tell I suppose. |
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Information Agent
Apparently Miners
83
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Posted - 2012.07.31 23:50:00 -
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Arkturus McFadden wrote:A great history lesson But my question is this.. Now that Goonswarm is systematically conquering region by region.. will the same happen to them? Time will only tell I suppose.
Every Universe, real, imagined, synthetic or programmed are locked by their very nature into a cycle of birth, destruction and rebirth. When one entity is destroyed, another may be born, one reborn, weakened entities fade away or rebuild. Size can prolong the lifespan of an entity, or it can shorten its life expectancy.
One thing is assured though, nothing lasts forever, in any Universe.
One day, we may all be back in a similar thread, comparing the past conflicts and super alliances to a new threat. In the great turnover of super alliances, any alliance created in the past, present or future may one day be the new 'super alliance' that tries to take over everything.
Tbh I think it would be funny as **** if one day in the future we are all watching IRC take vast swathes of nullsec. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
565
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Posted - 2012.08.01 00:42:00 -
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EvEa Deva wrote:Too much goon asskissery
moral of the story is ... keep devs out of the game.
Given that the OP is probably an alt of Karttoom (or however it's spelt ), then is that really such a surprise.
OP, why aren't you forum-banned yet again?
Why am I dreaming of some strange woman who keeps telling me, "You fail at life because you are cloaked?" |
James 315
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.08.01 14:26:00 -
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Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:Given that the OP is probably an alt of Karttoom (or however it's spelt ), then is that really such a surprise. OP, why aren't you forum-banned yet again? Any number of reasons, the most likely one being that I am not an alt of karttoon. I mean seriously, by now I've been accused of being the alt of half of EVE. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance
309
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Posted - 2012.08.01 14:53:00 -
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Interesting to read your view point.. I don't agree with all your suppositions. and pontificating about a goon positive influence as if for the last 2 years it's been any different than living with bob for the tpyical player is laughable. Bob died of apathy.. and waneing positive leadership not so much of goon intrigue.. had the goon stayed in their own little corner of the internet and never come to eve bob would very likely still be gone today.
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AdmiralJohn
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
39
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Posted - 2012.08.01 16:07:00 -
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Those were the glory days of Eve, back when men were men and women were BoB.
Nowadays there's no 'evil empire' to fight. All we have are -A-, and they're more of an 'incompetent empire'. They can't even hold a candle to the memory of BoB. |
Sarmea Moon
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
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Posted - 2012.08.01 17:10:00 -
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Barbara Nichole wrote:Interesting to read your view point.. I don't agree with all your suppositions. and pontificating about a goon positive influence as if for the last 2 years it's been any different than living with bob for the typical player is laughable. Bob died of apathy.. and waneing positive leadership not so much of goon intrigue.. Had the goon stayed in their own little corner of the internet and never come to eve bob would very likely still be gone today.
BoB was willing to stick around while they could lord it over EvE, but left when they were kicked to hisec. This is what separates BoB from Goonies. Yes, the goons are the special children of the internet. However, if their sov was turned off tomorrow, and someone stole their alliance name, would they fall? I think not.
Sure, I'm a little biased. I was part of Big Blue, and when the MC started with us, hired by BoB, I took it personally. I also helped set up a frigate fleet for the brand new goonies, most of whom couldn't even fly a cruiser at that point. They were continually jumping in to plant a jump clone and going home. That way, if we needed them, they'd come "for the lulz".
BoB treated them like dirty street kids on BoB's nice rugs. Now the dirty street kids own the rugs, without the BoB attitude. |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
638
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Posted - 2012.08.01 18:18:00 -
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I miss having an enemy that isn't completely incompetent and laughable :( Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1108
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Posted - 2012.08.01 18:54:00 -
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Have my babies James 315
never stop posting . |
Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
372
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Posted - 2012.08.01 19:08:00 -
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Anna Djan wrote:"Those who don't learn from the past are destined to repeat it".
Goons = The new BoB.
not empty posting If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
Denidil
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
372
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Posted - 2012.08.01 19:10:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:I miss having an enemy that isn't completely incompetent and laughable :(
well.. based on what i'm looking at on the sov map i have a easy solution for you there
Reset FA Reset Razor Reset Test If you don't see a problem in 0.0 eroding into two big super-coalitions and a few hangers on in areas nobody cares about.. then you don't have brains. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1235
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Posted - 2012.08.02 00:50:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:I miss having an enemy that isn't completely incompetent and laughable :( What about farming IRC Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
63
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Posted - 2012.08.02 01:01:00 -
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I was hoping to join BoB in the early days but i was fresh and i need to get some sp first the told me. When i was ready atleast i was thinking the that BoB aliance was gone from 1 day to the other everything shift now the are gone no corps nothing. Mis the old wars on youtube scoop post and that kind of stuff now every corps get there asses kick by goons. i hope there is corps that can do the same like BoB so i can join them.
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