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Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:04:00 -
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Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 20/03/2010 03:11:27 if this game turns out ok, will you be leaving eve for it?
if the game has a reasonable amount of depth and immersion, as well as updates, i can see people switching over. let's face it, not many games will ever have the depth eve does, however BP is pretty much the space game many have been waiting for. one thing that's bothered me about eve has always been the clicking, and the automatic warping from point A to B to C. another thing is that the ships are way too big. you dont get to play the "fighter", so the environments weren't designed for it. sure, inties are fast, but you never really zoom through stations or past massive ships. the environment just wasnt designed for dog-fighting.
BP reminds me of Independence War and Freelancer 2, which were epic and skill-based. plus, wait for it. wait for it. joystick. what up! pew pew pew. |
Hulkageddon
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:12:00 -
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You go ahead and play with your joystick - we'll be right there soon. No really, go ahead, leave.
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Ivas Tiffy
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:12:00 -
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Edited by: Ivas Tiffy on 20/03/2010 03:12:28 can i have your stuff when you DO go?
edit : crap 2nd place
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Liang Nuren
The Aduro Protocol Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:16:00 -
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Yes because Free To Play (read: pay me lots of extra $$ per month so you can get the uber equipment/stat bonuses) is such a good idea. (Sorry Siig, I had to)
-Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire |
Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:20:00 -
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not leaving, morons.
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Zyck
Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Hungry Eyes
BP reminds me of Independence War and Freelancer 2, which were epic and skill-based. plus, wait for it. wait for it. joystick. what up! pew pew pew.
There never was a freelancer 2.
If by chance you mean freespace 2, then you speak heresy.
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Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:26:00 -
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freelancer
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Niccolado Starwalker
Gallente Shadow Templars
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Hungry Eyes [..] joystick. [..]
I did not know a damn thing about this game until you mentioned it. But this simple word you spoke where more than enough for me to say I will never leave EVE over it! Heck, I would not even give up playing Ludo over that blody game!
Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL. |
Gunfugue
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:38:00 -
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Is this that game that looked somewhat promising then announced it was going to be free to play thus insuring it will suck?
No.
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Kijo Rikki
Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees
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Posted - 2010.03.20 03:59:00 -
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I'm gonna keep holding my breath for JGE.
On second thought, that's probably not the best idea....still. I'll check out BP since its free to play, no loss. > WHILE SIG<AWESOME DO LOOP there is no escape from my crappy sig. |
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yourdoingitwrong
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Posted - 2010.03.20 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kijo Rikki I'm gonna keep holding my breath for JGE.
Nice knowing you.
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bff Jill
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Posted - 2010.03.20 04:11:00 -
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playing a free mmo can be harmful to you because every now and then you find one thats actually not that bad and only ruined by the fact that its free.
you then become sad and depressed at the lost potential.
Its best to just avoid them i find.
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Legion
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Posted - 2010.03.20 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kijo Rikki I'm gonna keep holding my breath for JGE.
On second thought, that's probably not the best idea....still. I'll check out BP since its free to play, no loss.
hehe
After reading the latest JGE dev blog / announcement they made at GDC it just became and eve online clone with twitch pvp.
I give goons 1 month to take total control.
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Aka5ha
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.20 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zyck
Originally by: Hungry Eyes
BP reminds me of Independence War and Freelancer 2, which were epic and skill-based. plus, wait for it. wait for it. joystick. what up! pew pew pew.
There never was a freelancer 2.
If by chance you mean freespace 2, then you speak heresy.
wing commander 1-6 privateer privateer 2 starlancer freelancer freelancer 2 (canceled during development)
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Kijo Rikki
Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees
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Posted - 2010.03.20 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Obsidian Hawk
Originally by: Kijo Rikki I'm gonna keep holding my breath for JGE.
On second thought, that's probably not the best idea....still. I'll check out BP since its free to play, no loss.
hehe
After reading the latest JGE dev blog / announcement they made at GDC it just became and eve online clone with twitch pvp.
I give goons 1 month to take total control.
It's possible, but I'd like to think I have a chance since they'd actually have to aim at me! And even if they get me, jebus it would be so much fun getting into dogfights. > WHILE SIG<AWESOME DO LOOP there is no escape from my crappy sig. |
Slade Hoo
Amarr Corpse Collection Point
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Posted - 2010.03.20 04:34:00 -
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EVE is dying...everyone will leave for black prophecy ------ Make Lowsec useful! Vote in the CSM-Forum! |
Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.03.20 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 20/03/2010 04:42:48 yes, f2p's usually suck...but BP just looks so damn good. i have a hunch they'll just do microtransactions, or paid DLC's or something. i think they should just release it as a normal game for $50 bucks, then add DLC's for multiplayer.
in any case, what out there right now in the trailers looks very promising. cant wait to do some space dog fighting again, zoom around space hulks, and inside stations. in some ways, it puts eve to shame, but does it have staying power that remains to be seen.
and no, this isnt a leaving thread, or an eve is dying thread. at all. im just curious to see if anyone is excited about this space sim/rpg. i know there are a lot of I-War, Freelancer and X3 fans in eve. and a lot of us play eve just due to poor selection of multiplayer space games on the market atm.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 04:51:00 -
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With BP now being released under a F2P model I will have to watch how it does in Beta.
On the BP forums, we had the opportunity to ask questions to the developer and publisher on their forums. We're waiting to hear back. That should answer a lot of the questions we have about what is going to be the future of the game.
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iudex
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Posted - 2010.03.20 05:37:00 -
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Edited by: iudex on 20/03/2010 05:43:57
Originally by: Hungry Eyes one thing that's bothered me about eve has always been the clicking, and the automatic warping from point A to B to C. another thing is that the ships are way too big. you dont get to play the "fighter", so the environments weren't designed for it
Direct ship control was the thing I missed most, when starting Eve, after all I joined a space MMO because I was a fan of the Wing Commander game series. I don't know much about Black Prohecy, only seen a couple of trailers on Youtube but it seems that you need to fly manually and can directly control the ships there, have dogfights etc. If this game gives me the feeling of the Wing Commander universe, I'll definitely try it, but won't have to quit EVE for this, since EVE is a game that pays and plays itself all alone(passive isk income per month > plex price) _____________________________________________________ My skills // Faction Standings: Serpentis +8.02 / Angel Cartel +9.24 / Gallente Federation -10.00 |
Kacer Xenro
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Posted - 2010.03.20 06:31:00 -
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Originally by: Hungry Eyes in any case, what out there right now in the trailers looks very promising.
WoW's got some pretty awesome trailers too, lets all go play that game, o wait...
trailers are 'easy' to make, dont EVER judge a game on its trailers
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Tellenta
Gallente Invicta. Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.03.20 06:59:00 -
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The only way I'd be interested in that game is if it had a ship spin feature that was better than eve's
Can I be docked bull****ting in corp chat/vent for an hour and logging off?
Can I make monies when I am not playing the game?
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Mutnin
Amarr Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.20 07:04:00 -
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Edited by: Mutnin on 20/03/2010 07:04:17 I've been watching that game's progress and I'm sure I'll give it a try just for the hell of it. The graphics are nice and it seems fairly fast paced in the PVP side, but the flight model looks too arcade like to me.
I come from WW2 flight sim style gaming and I'm all about actually flying the ships and having to actually pilot your ship. I do miss that and the fact that eve is more about clicking on a screen combined with "training" skills.
The biggest problem I see is the fact they are allowing 3rd person view. I've seen it in other games and if 3rd person view is enabled then everyone will have to fly in that view or they will be at the disadvantage.
The guys flying in first person will not be able to see as much during combat and will put them at a major disadvantage. They would need to force force First Person View to get me interested.
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Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.03.20 07:54:00 -
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i played sturmovik as well as other plane games...as far as i recall they all had optional third person. but the first person gave u certain advantages... crosshair i think. i know what u mean though.
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Redshirt I
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Posted - 2010.03.20 08:38:00 -
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Looks good, but not enough to leave eve. Also I really dislike instanced games.
will check it out when it comes out but I don't even know where any of my joysticks are.
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Tokeshii Kovacs
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Posted - 2010.03.20 08:43:00 -
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I am old. SOO old. I joined Eve in Aug 2003 hoping it would be Elite / Frontier MMO and it is, except without the joystick control. Eve is good, great even, but I would dearly love to be able to fly properly. I am so desperate I still have a Tie fighter installation on an xp32 system to give me the direct control fix I need.
So I obviously look up any space based MMO to see what it might offer, and BP looks to me like a very pretty space combat flight sim. It has no relation at all to Eve though. It looks more like WoW in space to me. So I might have a look to enjoy a bit of direct control flight, but that's probably it.
JGE if it were to ever happen, which has never seemed likely since I first heard about it, might be competition for eve, but there is a major problem with a twitch based interface & that is lag and server load. We won't see a single shard twitch based MMO for many many years yet I'm afraid.
As for third person view - in Sturmovik you can specify on the server whether it is allowed or not & all the servers I ever flew on it was verboten, thankfully. What's the point in flying a realistic flight sim from behind the plane ?
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2010.03.20 08:52:00 -
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Screen-shots look good. Trailer looks extremely good. But all new games have good screens/trailer.
F2P method is almost always fail. It's usually charges you more money than a subscription model just to access areas and buy necessary goods or it only charges only for fluff items and that cannot keep a company afloat.
Won't be leaving eve for it, and I probably will forget to even try it.
Originally by: Jim Raynor EVE needs danger, EVE needs risks, EVE needs combat, even piracy, without these things, the game stagnates to a trivial game centering around bloating your wallet with no purpose. |
Phony v2
Caldari Unknown Soldiers Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.03.20 08:52:00 -
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Edited by: Phony v2 on 20/03/2010 08:58:31 Im going to check it out, it looks interesting. But no matter how good it is, I will never leave eve. Been playing EVE for almost 7 years now and I dont intend to leave...ever.
edit: It looks like WoW mixed with x3..not too excited about it. ______________________________________________ Yes? You, the idiot in the back, with the dumb question. |
Shrike Arghast
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Posted - 2010.03.20 09:19:00 -
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Eh, it looks okay. The problem is, I've always preferred capital ships to fighters, so back when I played Tie Fighter over a decade ago, I'd drop out of lightspeed, spot a Victory Star Destroyer or the like, and wish I was piloting that. EVE gives me that chance, or at least as close to it as I'm going to come.
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Tulisin Dragonflame
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Posted - 2010.03.20 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Shrike Arghast Eh, it looks okay. The problem is, I've always preferred capital ships to fighters, so back when I played Tie Fighter over a decade ago, I'd drop out of lightspeed, spot a Victory Star Destroyer or the like, and wish I was piloting that. EVE gives me that chance, or at least as close to it as I'm going to come.
Exactly. EVE isn't "missing" dogfighting, it is just a large-scale slower and more strategic game with big ships. Dogfighting in EVE is left to drones.
EVE fills a niche nicely, IMO, for people who like the spaceship pewpew without the twitchy fighter jet sim feeling.
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.20 10:08:00 -
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From FAQ:
"Yes, Player vs. Player combat will play a big role in Black Prophecy. You will be able to engage other players in different kinds of PvP missions and battlegrounds. Player vs. Player combat will also be an essential part of the game’s endgame content."
PVP mission? like instanced PVP? No thanks :)
Besides its nothing like EVE at all, its just a new Freelancer.
I might try it since I liked freelancer, but if it got crappy PVP its not worth a monthly sub.
But leveing EVE for it? no. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html |
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Hoshi
The Einherjar Corporation
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Posted - 2010.03.20 10:09:00 -
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It looked good until they went F2P. When that happened I lost all interest. ---------------------------------------- "Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason." |
Marcus Grim
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Posted - 2010.03.20 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hoshi It looked good until they went F2P. When that happened I lost all interest.
^^This^^
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ddred
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Posted - 2010.03.20 11:14:00 -
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No, instanced gameplay will never compare to a true MMO experience like EVE: Online. I've seen freespace and black prophecy and they're the same, so far I've wondered if EVE would have a contender... But, everytime a new space MMOG is announced, eve is always on top. I've played STO, it had a lot of hype and people defending it to the death when people started to say it was WoW in space. But I think most people are aware now that Cryptic were just out to get money from people.
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Cozmik R5
Minmatar Dock 94 Chaos Theory Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 11:16:00 -
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Trying it: most definitely! I miss using my FCS in a space sim.
Leaving EVE: are you out of your mind? Stuff stays in my possession. ____________________
Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2010.03.20 11:18:00 -
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I'll quite certainly play it, but I won't leave EVE for it.
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Serpents smile
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Posted - 2010.03.20 11:24:00 -
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I might try it if......
They port it to the Mac.
PS: Holy cow, the cookies remembered my login!
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Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 11:26:00 -
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Meh. The only thing that makes me leave a game is the game itself – not some other game that comes along. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Rexthor Hammerfists
ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Redshirt I Also I really dislike instanced games.
Same here. Ever since i played Fallout instanced games just get boring quick. -
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CCP Adida
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Posted - 2010.03.20 14:57:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion. Remember talking about games other than EVE belong in this section :)
Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Capsuleers of Doom Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:32:00 -
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We all left for STO, remember?
I'll be trying it as it does look good for some brainless fun.
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ceaon
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:35:00 -
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Op dint you know each time someone release a sci-fi game all eve players stop playing eve and say nahhh
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Discrodia
Gallente Green Peace Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:04:00 -
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I still like Darkspace (That, for being 80zillion years old, is still pretty good)
Originally by: GM Horse There are all these people at work who keep talking about EVE.
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RFID
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:10:00 -
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I'm sure I'll check it out, especially since it's f2p. I have a personal rule, only one paid MMORPG at a time. (sorry WoW) It does look completely different from EVE, what with all that dog-fighting.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:19:00 -
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looks like it could be fun, F2P sucks though, as all it usually means is all the best ships/weapons/gear is stuff you have to pay for. Hope I'm wrong though
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bff Jill
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:21:00 -
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it means a bad community and a bunch of hacks everywhere even if you don't have to buy the best stuff.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Capsuleers of Doom Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Rawr Cristina looks like it could be fun, F2P sucks though, as all it usually means is all the best ships/weapons/gear is stuff you have to pay for. Hope I'm wrong though
The devs have all announced that anything a paying player can get, a free player can get also, just takes longer I'm assuming.
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Mr Reeth
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Rawr Cristina looks like it could be fun, F2P sucks though, as all it usually means is all the best ships/weapons/gear is stuff you have to pay for. Hope I'm wrong though
The devs have all announced that anything a paying player can get, a free player can get also, just takes longer I'm assuming.
Sounds like boss camping and rare drops to me.
The only game that has a chance to pull me away from eve is World of Darkness online.
Eve is totally unique and after playing it all other online games just seem **** to me. They all just seem to be following the same damn pattern. Compare almost any two MMORPGs and you'll find that they are essentially the same stupid time sink.
And "free to play" games are the worst of the worst. That alone will keep me well away from this game... unless it's like wing commander and corps get to have their own carriers.
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Capsuleers of Doom Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Reeth
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Rawr Cristina looks like it could be fun, F2P sucks though, as all it usually means is all the best ships/weapons/gear is stuff you have to pay for. Hope I'm wrong though
The devs have all announced that anything a paying player can get, a free player can get also, just takes longer I'm assuming.
Eve is totally unique and after playing it all other online games just seem **** to me. They all just seem to be following the same damn pattern. Compare almost any two MMORPGs and you'll find that they are essentially the same stupid time sink.
Yeah I've noticed this myself, I can't play other MMO's without them feeling a bit dead in comparison, (damn you CCP!) which is a good thing IMO, as it does help break the MMO trend. That said, I will try BP as it is free, and probably enjoy it whilst I learn it, and then abandon it for some reason or another. I agree though, F2P games tend to be of low quality, but it'll be interesting to try out.
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Krennel Darius
Caldari Nova Security Systems
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Posted - 2010.03.20 18:44:00 -
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Since its going to be a free game, I may play it every now and again just for the variety, but I probably won't get into it.
Just from watching the gameplay trailer on Youtube it looks like WoW in space. I don't know exactly how you level up in the game, but the trading, movement, and player interaction aspects look very much like WoW. There is a little dash of EVE thrown in for good measure however, but its mostly just that the ships fitting window looks semi-similar, and their ships seem to be more along the lines of what T3 ships are for us currently.
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.03.20 19:09:00 -
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I far prefer large ships and tactical combat to dogfighting in space fighters. So you can keep your joystick and whatever this game is you're talking about (which I've never heard of).
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.03.20 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Hungry Eyes Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 20/03/2010 04:42:48 in some ways, it puts eve to shame
In what ways? ...
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.20 20:03:00 -
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I am not looking for a new game. Hell I do not even play this one currently
Originally by: Hungry Eyes
and no, this isnt a leaving thread, or an eve is dying thread. at all. im just curious to see if anyone is excited about this space sim/rpg.
That is not what your title infers.
Slade
Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker
Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat!
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Irida Mershkov
Gallente Capsuleers of Doom Opticon Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 20:12:00 -
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Still a bit confused on why people would un-subscribe for a free game.
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Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.03.20 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 20/03/2010 21:03:05
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Hungry Eyes Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 20/03/2010 04:42:48 in some ways, it puts eve to shame
In what ways?
graphics are next gen
seems easy to get into
dog fighting
it seems to be skills based, with the aiming and all. something eve will never be unfortunately
environment is many fold more interesting
doubt it will have the economy and crafting depth of eve, but it's an arcadey space sim. as people have already mentioned, the f2p may ruin it. but we'll wait and see.
as for the "leaving" part, i dont necessarily mean unsubscribing, but maybe spending more time over there instead. it's doubtful i'll unsub
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.03.20 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Hungry Eyes Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 20/03/2010 21:03:05
Originally by: Razin
Originally by: Hungry Eyes Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 20/03/2010 04:42:48 in some ways, it puts eve to shame
In what ways?
graphics are next gen
I don't see anything better on screenshots or in the gameplay videos. I lie, BP has engine trails. However, even with all the dated nebulae backdrops EVE's 'space' and planets still look better or similar at the very least. The plethora of 'space fog' visible in the BP media makes it look worse. EVE's stations look much better.
Originally by: Hungry Eyes seems easy to get into
dog fighting
it seems to be skills based, with the aiming and all. something eve will never be unfortunately
environment is many fold more interesting
You mean it's a different game with twitch controls, instant gratification, and instanced 'environments'? Which part actually "puts eve to shame"?
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Vogue
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 22:28:00 -
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Black Prophecy could fill a big niche for many of us who want a decent space shooter that has a twitch interface. With quick action. Played EVE for 5 years myself and i am going through a bored period with it.
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Astenion
Blame The Bunny Bunny Nation
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Posted - 2010.03.20 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Astenion on 20/03/2010 22:29:36
Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Rawr Cristina looks like it could be fun, F2P sucks though, as all it usually means is all the best ships/weapons/gear is stuff you have to pay for. Hope I'm wrong though
The devs have all announced that anything a paying player can get, a free player can get also, just takes longer I'm assuming.
Welp, be careful with this. D&D Online is now F2P as well and THEY SAY that you can do everything a paying player can, it just takes a bit longer to do. This is true, however, this usually means there is going to be some sort of reputation system that actually matters. The more reputation you get, the more "points" you get that you can spend on certain instances, items, etc. Alternately, you can buy points directly for a low price every now and then. I bought some points for like $6 to get a specific instance in D&D Online but that's it. It's either subscribe, buy points, or grind your way to a high reputation where they'll give you points for ever time you up your rep.
Technically it will be possible to do it, but you'd probably get bored of grinding the same missions over and over.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.03.20 22:51:00 -
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In terms of visuals, it's jaw dropping and completely stunning.
In terms of gameplay, by the sounds of it I'd have more fun playing Russian roulette with a Glock 17.
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Hungry Eyes
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2010.03.20 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 20/03/2010 23:08:26
Originally by: Razin I don't see anything better on screenshots or in the gameplay videos. I lie, BP has engine trails. However, even with all the dated nebulae backdrops EVE's 'space' and planets still look better or similar at the very least. The plethora of 'space fog' visible in the BP media makes it look worse. EVE's stations look much better.
BP's planets and stations look a lot better in my opinion. the stations seem to have a purpose within the tactical environment, and youre a lot close to them. i was never able to feel immersed in eve's environment. all the POS buildings look tacked on, you cant use asteroids for cover, there arent any indoor areas a la descent 3 (may be more realistic, but not more fun). the "tactical" environment in eve is just a calculation and limited to wormholes; so being inside a nebula doesnt mess with your targeting or limit your visibility. in other words, it's a point and click MMO; there's your ship, and empty pointless space.
Originally by: Razin
You mean it's a different game with twitch controls, instant gratification, and instanced 'environments'? Which part actually "puts eve to shame"?
oh absolutely. i said it puts eve to shame in some ways. i mean, twitch + space is oldschool. eve did two things right: 1) it's a great economical simulator 2) there are lots of things to do. and i'll take my instant gratification over waiting for 30 days so i can fly a ship.
now this is just my opinion. ive been craving an online space sim. eve is just an MMO, a good one at that. but the pvp gameplay is mediocre.
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Kijo Rikki
Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees
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Posted - 2010.03.20 23:32:00 -
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If anyone ever needed proof that EvE combat is incredibly boring, just ask all the vid makers out there why they speed their videos up.
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.03.21 04:06:00 -
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Edited by: Razin on 21/03/2010 04:09:33
Originally by: Hungry Eyes Edited by: Hungry Eyes on 20/03/2010 23:08:26
Originally by: Razin I don't see anything better on screenshots or in the gameplay videos. I lie, BP has engine trails. However, even with all the dated nebulae backdrops EVE's 'space' and planets still look better or similar at the very least. The plethora of 'space fog' visible in the BP media makes it look worse. EVE's stations look much better.
BP's planets and stations look a lot better in my opinion. the stations seem to have a purpose within the tactical environment, and youre a lot close to them. i was never able to feel immersed in eve's environment. all the POS buildings look tacked on, you cant use asteroids for cover, there arent any indoor areas a la descent 3 (may be more realistic, but not more fun). the "tactical" environment in eve is just a calculation and limited to wormholes; so being inside a nebula doesnt mess with your targeting or limit your visibility. in other words, it's a point and click MMO; there's your ship, and empty pointless space.
Originally by: Razin
You mean it's a different game with twitch controls, instant gratification, and instanced 'environments'? Which part actually "puts eve to shame"?
oh absolutely. i said it puts eve to shame in some ways. i mean, twitch + space is oldschool. eve did two things right: 1) it's a great economical simulator 2) there are lots of things to do. and i'll take my instant gratification over waiting for 30 days so i can fly a ship.
now this is just my opinion. ive been craving an online space sim. eve is just an MMO, a good one at that. but the pvp gameplay is mediocre.
That's part of the point. Yours is an opinion based on some 'cinematic' trailers.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with this type of a game, I just think saying it puts EVE to shame on anything is really premature.
Originally by: Kijo Rikki If anyone ever needed proof that EvE combat is incredibly boring, just ask all the vid makers out there why they speed their videos up.
To each his own. I happen to think that the most fun part of EVE's pvp almost never makes it into those vids. ...
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Kijo Rikki
Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees
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Posted - 2010.03.21 04:22:00 -
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I can agree. I'm assuming you refer to the suspense before combat, regardless of whether you are the hunter or the hunted. I'm not big on suspense. I am big on epic action. Resurrection Ship pt2 has spoiled me, I crave that kind of excellence in a combat MMO. > WHILE SIG<AWESOME DO LOOP there is no escape from my crappy sig. |
Slightly Green
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Posted - 2010.03.21 11:02:00 -
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Prophecy looks like it could be fun for a while if you enjoy action, but it's a different style of game altogether. I might have a bit of a play, but I've played lots of MMOs, and it's EVE I always keep coming back to.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Omerta Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.22 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 22/03/2010 12:50:27
Originally by: Vogue Black Prophecy could fill a big niche for many of us who want a decent space shooter that has a twitch interface. With quick action.
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In EVE battles are won or lost based on fittings and tactics (numbers help to) with ships taking less skill to fly the bigger and slower they get.
In BP, JG:E, etc, the focus is going to be more on your piloting skills. It's no better or worse, just different. Would play them for the same reason I still play FPS - don't have to leave EVE for that.
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