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Nelindor1
Gallente Kiss My Assets Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:07:00 -
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If CCP said lets have a vote on which t3 ship class will be next what would you pick out of:
Battlecruisers
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Frigates
I think i would choose frigates because it would be cool to have subsystems for little frigates.(lol)
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Kharamete
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:10:00 -
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Tech 3 mining frigates.
The tears and flames would be cool with a cloaky hulk with interdiction nullifier. ---
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bff Jill
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:13:00 -
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i dislike t3 and hope they never add another t3 ship. But considering they keep adding ship classes that make the game worse, we will probably see t3 battleships one day, who can solo caps. Which is actually fine by me since i hate caps almost as much as i hate t3.
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Discrodia
Gallente Green Peace Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: bff Jill i dislike t3 and hope they never add another t3 ship. But considering they keep adding ship classes that make the game worse, we will probably see t3 battleships one day, who can solo caps. Which is actually fine by me since i hate caps almost as much as i hate t3.
Why do you assume anything they add to the game is bad? I'm assuming you loved the game when everyone was mining in frigates, alliances didn't even exist, and it took 3 months to get enough minerals for a battleship? What did T3 ships ever do to you anyway?
*ahem*
In response to OP: I believe they will add Frigates first (I think they announced this for Tyrannis, not sure) and then they will add T3 BS's later. I'm not sure about BC's, as they are an intermediate ship class, and likely won't get a T3 form for a while.
Originally by: GM Horse There are all these people at work who keep talking about EVE.
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bff Jill
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Discrodia
I'm assuming you loved the game when everyone was mining in frigates, alliances didn't even exist, and it took 3 months to get enough minerals for a battleship?
As a matter of fact i did.
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kano donn
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:30:00 -
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if they do bring out t3 frigs, i would love to see them add the 5th subsystem to cruisers. another non pvp focus.
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DTMKnight
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:32:00 -
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T3 frigs would be a nice addition to the game. This would let players use and learn T3 before having to spend the crazy big isk on the T3 cruisers.
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bff Jill
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:38:00 -
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And we will just have a bunch of super-dramiels running around.
Isk is not a limiting factor, capitalblobwarfare shows us that.
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Discrodia
Gallente Green Peace Inc.
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: bff Jill And we will just have a bunch of super-dramiels running around.
Isk is not a limiting factor, capitalblobwarfare shows us that.
Can you go be a ***** somewhere else please?
Originally by: GM Horse There are all these people at work who keep talking about EVE.
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Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: bff Jill And we will just have a bunch of super-dramiels running around.
Why? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
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Nelindor1
Gallente Kiss My Assets Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.20 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: bff Jill And we will just have a bunch of super-dramiels running around.
Isk is not a limiting factor, capitalblobwarfare shows us that.
If you dont like t3, stop posting in here okay? |
Amerilia
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:01:00 -
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give us the promised 5 subsystems of each type ... it was due for apocrypha, and nothing happened since
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Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Amerilia give us the promised 5 subsystems of each type ... it was due for apocrypha, and nothing happened since
What should those subsystems do? ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Amerilia
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:05:00 -
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Edited by: Amerilia on 20/03/2010 16:06:22
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Amerilia give us the promised 5 subsystems of each type ... it was due for apocrypha, and nothing happened since
What should those subsystems do?
maybe something freaky? mining offensive module cargo propulsion system hull tanking defense gang bonus electronics massive mid/low slot bonus powergrid
or "normal" stuff just something, those models were there, they were on sisi, thats just wasted art
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bff Jill
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Why?
Because its a frigate, and frigate hulls have always been special due to having reasonable escapability built in to the hull size, removing customization considerations for that letting you focus more on the straight up fight.
/sigh
maybe im over reacting, i suppose you could just neut the stupid thing.
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Gabrielle Lamb
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:24:00 -
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While T3 frigs would be fun i'd personally rather like to see more "cheapish" ships implented rather than more of the uber-expensive ones. While CCP likes boasting how easy it is to get in to EVE-O PvP with a new char i seriously have to disagree with that statement. Coming in and doing something near usefull is pretty much impossible
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Nelindor1
Gallente Kiss My Assets Looney Toons.
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Gabrielle Lamb While T3 frigs would be fun i'd personally rather like to see more "cheapish" ships implented rather than more of the uber-expensive ones. While CCP likes boasting how easy it is to get in to EVE-O PvP with a new char i seriously have to disagree with that statement. Coming in and doing something near usefull is pretty much impossible
its about whether or not you know how to fit, some people can take on cruisers in frigates, maybe not with all t1 fits but frigates are cheap and not a big deal to lose.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.03.20 16:40:00 -
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Im looking forward to t3 frigs.
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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Wanderer Larze
Caldari Hunt and Salvage Inc. Brig Consortium
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Posted - 2010.03.20 17:58:00 -
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Only thing I am worried about with T3 is the fact that frigates are so susceptible to suicide ganking (smartbombs at gates anyone?) and with the whole losing 1 lvl of a subsystem skill it makes me thing twice about flying one.
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NEMESIS SIN
Method In Khaos
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Posted - 2010.03.20 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: NEMESIS SIN on 20/03/2010 18:23:08 Caldari BS Lv 5 + Strategic Cruiser Lv 5 + Advanced Spaceship Command Lv 5--for whatever Overpowered-Level4-Mission-Running-Sleeper-Killing Monstrosity the caldari Tech 3 Battleship WILL undoubtedly be.
Were you expecting anything less?
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Tippia
Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.20 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: Wanderer Larze Only thing I am worried about with T3 is the fact that frigates are so susceptible to suicide ganking (smartbombs at gates anyone?) and with the whole losing 1 lvl of a subsystem skill it makes me thing twice about flying one.
The thing is, this is not something we necessarily have to expect from T3 frigates. It's a mechanism we see in Strategic Cruisers, but there is nothing that says that this is a function inherent in T3 or if it's something we see in SCs. SC:s are one implementation of T3, but they are not equivalent to T3.
In short, apart from the base components and (maybe) the modularity, there is nothing in the Strategic Cruisers that we can or have to expect to see in T3 frigates as well.
Seeing as how they introduced T3 frigates by claiming that they would be "Cheap, highly configurable, and losing one won't be the end of the world", my guess would rather be that we won't see the SP loss mechanic with this new class. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Ryhss
Caldari 42nd Airborn
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Posted - 2010.03.20 19:00:00 -
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Edited by: Ryhss on 20/03/2010 19:02:53
Originally by: Discrodia
Originally by: bff Jill And we will just have a bunch of super-dramiels running around.
Isk is not a limiting factor, capitalblobwarfare shows us that.
Can you go be a ***** somewhere else please?
C U Next Tuesday....
Originally by: Ghoest Im looking forward to t3 frigs.
Me too.
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Athar Mu
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.20 23:53:00 -
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Frigs...but only if they have a subsystem that makes them Logistics Frigs. So reduction in RR Cap use and increase to RR Range. In fact just make a T2 Frig like this and I'll be happy.
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w1ndstrike
Honored By Death
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Posted - 2010.03.20 23:59:00 -
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T3 frigates will probably have a modular system like SCs and use the exact same racial subsystem skills as the SCs do, it seems to me at least thats why they are a separate category with no ship class requirements. the requirements for T3 frigs if I had to guess would be racial frigate V just like the strategic cruisers needed cruiser 5.
tbh, with T3 frigs we'd probably see something similar to SCs, just not quite as unbalanced. able to mix T2 roles but not being as good as each individual T2 counterpart.
that all said, they'll probably die just as quickly to webs/neuts as any other frigate.
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Caimeka
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Posted - 2010.03.21 01:07:00 -
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the question is. How much would a T3 frig cost.
the cruiser is down to about 400 mil...
maybe 50-60 mil per t3 frigate maybe?
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Tamahra
Gallente Danke fuer den Fisch TriMark Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.21 07:38:00 -
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Originally by: bff Jill
Originally by: Discrodia
I'm assuming you loved the game when everyone was mining in frigates, alliances didn't even exist, and it took 3 months to get enough minerals for a battleship?
As a matter of fact i did.
lucky enough you are the very minority among the community
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Valentina Valentia
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.21 08:44:00 -
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I like the idea of the T3 (I fly them), and I don't find them over powered, they are jacks of all trades.
I also noted and have already bought a new Scorpion hulls, because I think CCP is right and will (hopefully) update all the skins again of all the T1/T2 ships in the game, rework the needed ones and buff the looks of all of them... to a nice shine that matches the newest ships - Orca, T3s, etc.
After that - I hope that we get a line of T3 ships, that we also get a reworked T1/T2 version of subsystems.... as I see it the advanced part of T3 really isn't the subsystems, it's the stats of the ships - much better cap, modular layout changes and such... customized subs could be a standard of all ships, if the stats don't change outside of the ranges of each Tech...
So a T1 subs wouldn't work in a T2 or T3 but would have the same kind of function... it would give bonues and slots (which would just be backwards engineered from the existing stats)... then we could add subs for each... to round out the old ships also, which I think is the next stage in ships for EVE, we don't need more hulls, we need more customization in all ships.... ultimately I see it being a kind of make your own ship, (and prob limited skins choices also) for ships.
Just as I see inarna being make our own toon finally, and alot of customization...
The Only ship I think that EVE needs still and doesn't have is a Mobile Corp HQ ship(s)... what would be a mothership(s).
at least three sizes, per say a mobile POS deal... but unlike a POS - it's a ship, it moves, it has slots to load in similar subs to bases, but it's not as tough nor a combat ship as much as a mobile fleet/corp hub ship... that would be most excellent.
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ChrisDude70
Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.03.21 09:00:00 -
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T3 titans! Who can make the most phallic looking spaceship!
Oh, and I might add, this is my signature. |
Grim Vandal
Burn Proof
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Posted - 2010.03.21 10:49:00 -
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Edited by: Grim Vandal on 21/03/2010 10:49:11
Originally by: Tamahra lucky enough you are the very minority among the community
sadly enough that morons like you are welcome now in this game
Greetings Grim |
Ghoest
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Posted - 2010.03.22 13:16:00 -
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This make a lot of lazy players unhappy but I would love to see all T3 frigs have inherent bubble immunity.
T3 cruisers and bigger need to have penalties for being bubble immune because they have the firepower and tank to be super ships.
But even the best frig is still a frig. The game would be improved if flying frigs actually gave you increased mobility as a trade of for what you lose by flying a little ship..
Wherever you went - Here you are.
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