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CalinaNightCyn
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Posted - 2010.03.23 08:31:00 -
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Tech III Ships,
Which doesn't belong ?
A: Proteus B: Loki C: Legion D: Tengu
wasn't t3 ships supposed to be good ships ? I mean why does Proteus have fits that can have 300k ehp buffer tanks doing 1000+ dps , or Tengu or even loki fits that are crazy awesome.. but Legion gotta 750 dps active armor tank (with a 320M isk Armor Rep) and can't even pump out 500 dps at its best.. ? or even worse why does it take just as many subsystem skills and same requirements as the other t3's when it clearly isn't in there league ? honestly anyone flying a legion and loses one really shouldn't lose sp lol there not in any since more powerful then a standard t2 cruiser or even alot of the battle cruisers in the game would easily take a legion.
I started the game in Amarr and I really only ever wanted to fly Amarr ships but Legion is so openly terrible I don't even like for people to see me Flying it.. I mean all the other t3s are really great but Legion really just isn't in there class most other battle cruisers are much better choices and especially for PvP and im a pvp player , just feel a bit cheated , will be starting training soon for my first none amarr ship (proteus) but it just doesn't seem right being i put the time in for a t3 ship already and I want to PvP in my nations t3 to show I have some pride in the nation I started playing in.
Not complaining / griping or moaning not asking for something to be fixed or changed.. I am only making a statement that came from training 6 skills for Legion and paying over 1.3 billion isk for a ship that really isn't much better then a drake to solo C3 wormholes and is absolutely good for nothing otherwise even the drake could kill it..
Is God through the wormhole? Did God grant us this boon, this new technology, a revelation from on high? These weapons are God's new prophecy, domain, and blessing. Let us use God's grace and prepare New Eden. We are GodĘs soldiers, weapons, glory. Our people are GodĘs army. Together, we are the legion.
if "god" gave us this ship then he clearly wasn't pleased about something lol
guys was just abit disappointed , happy hunting err mining or whatever you may do in Game :) cheers Calina
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.03.23 08:36:00 -
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God forbid you research a ship before investing isk and training into it. Signature removed, ♥ Parrots, but they aren't EVE Online sigs. Zymurgist |
Julius Rigel
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Posted - 2010.03.23 08:36:00 -
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Stop whining and just fly whatever you were flying a year ago before T3.
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Aera Aiana
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Posted - 2010.03.23 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Gladys Pank God forbid you research a ship before investing isk and training into it.
Well, not every Amarr already got the support skills for another faction's cruiser. Not to mention that faction cruiser V skill itself...
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Mashie Saldana
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.23 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: CalinaNightCyn I mean why does Proteus have fits that can have 300k ehp buffer tanks doing 1000+ dps
Cool, please show me that fit.
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CalinaNightCyn
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Posted - 2010.03.23 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Julius Rigel Stop whining and just fly whatever you were flying a year ago before T3.
??? clearly , you have a hard time deviating a difference in someone making a statement or whining about something, let me chalk it up for ya little man.. I couldn't careless , I already made the choice to skill another nation's ship.. I clearly stated I wasn't asking for a fix or change in legion and if you think that someone can't have an opinion about something and that not be whining then that just shows you don't have the ability to put 1 and 2 together and arrive at 3. so in other words stfu
I never whine I simply Made a statement. I did know exactly what Legion could and could not do before I trained the skills and I did so anyway , being i am from amarr I wanted to be able to fly my nations t3. (and maybe i did not) but I feel like I made that apparent in my original Statement. call it what you will but I don't really care for other nations ships (personal choice) but I still felt that Legion should be at least as good as any other t3 and not so set apart from the other t3's in general.
and i am totally and completely already wishing i never said a thing.. how in the world did Eve get an award for its community with jackasses like that (stop whining Guy) sticking about the forums ???
im done with this topic would delete if i could feel free to flame, wont even waist my time reading the BS
to anyone who left or leaves a respectable comment , Cheers and have a wonderful day. *smiles* Calina
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Gladys Pank
Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta
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Posted - 2010.03.23 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: CalinaNightCyn i am totally and completely already wishing i never said a thing..
Me too. Signature removed, ♥ Parrots, but they aren't EVE Online sigs. Zymurgist |
Marlona Sky
D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.03.23 09:25:00 -
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Originally by: CalinaNightCyn AMARR IS NOT THE BEST RACE IN EVERY SHIP CLASS AND NOW I AM MAD!!!... SERIOUSLY!
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CalinaNightCyn
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Posted - 2010.03.23 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky I am a Loser!
seriously you people are horrid.. I only made a statemant about a ship I felt was not up to par and I did so in a light joking manor and you people have turned it into something it never was..
to clarify , I never said amarr had the best ships or implied such.. Amarr has alot of not so good ships.. Assualt ships only being one type to mention. Retribution is slow and has only one mid slot so isn't really good for anything and vengeance Uses rockets <-- and rockets suck. I said I prefer to use my nations ships , never that they were better or that other nations ships were not good ships. all nations have good ships in one class or another but to me at least they seem all relatively balanced. ergo an amarr interceptor is just as good as a Mimnitar interceptor..
if you think your bright enough to use my own words against me then do so by all means but make sure there my words don't quote me and then change the text and try to make it out i said something i never said Marlona Sky..
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Marlona Sky
D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.03.23 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: CalinaNightCyn I LIKE TO LICK BROWN STARS!!!
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CalinaNightCyn
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Posted - 2010.03.23 10:02:00 -
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*sighs* Childish *lowers head*
Take Care Calina
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thisisnotright
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Posted - 2010.03.23 10:07:00 -
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CCP is terrible at game balance. They always have been. The reason people complain on the forums, is because of flavour of the month. Meaning CCP boost somethings too much making it flavour of the month and rendering others obsolete.
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bigcockrandymountain
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Posted - 2010.03.23 10:47:00 -
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Originally by: CalinaNightCyn *sighs* Childish *lowers head*
Take Care Calina
I thought you already left 2 comments back?
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AnonyTerrorNinja
Minmatar Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport
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Posted - 2010.03.23 10:47:00 -
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Personally, I have found many a Legion fit that are quite plainly scary, as well as diverse in their potential use.
Op, you're simply doing it wrong. It may not get the same local tanking capabilities as the other T3 ships, and may not get the same speed as the other T3 ships, and may not get the same damage output (raw, mind you, not hit-type based etc) as the other T3 ships, but it more than makes up for that in...
Wait, nevermind, the less you know about the ship and what can be done with it, the better for myself and my friends when we start cruising in our Legions and people underestimate us. ---
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CalinaNightCyn
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Posted - 2010.03.23 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: thisisnotright CCP is terrible at game balance. They always have been. The reason people complain on the forums, is because of flavour of the month. Meaning CCP boost somethings too much making it flavour of the month and rendering others obsolete.
I can understand totally.. in the case for the legion i wasn't saying that it should be more powerful then the other ships or even asking or implying it should be boosted in any event. I was only saying that the ship didn't seem up to par with the t3 class it is supposed to fit in and as an amarrian that really sucks to train all those skills to get a ship that was good for really doing nothing much.. and if i wanted to fly a t3 ship for PvP I have to really set myself aside for along time leveling support skills for the other nations weapons and even ship skills as well as the 6 Strategic cruiser and subsystems skill for that Nation.. and that is exactly what I'm doing.. and I'm fairly happy in my choice to do so.. I just thought that after all the effort for Legion i would at least say how I felt on the subject.. I was not trying to start anything, whine or even imbue a change.. I mean is a general discussion forum , and that was my only intent to have a conversation about it in general with what i thought was supposed to be a great online Community.. but so far only you and another was able to respond with anything that even resembled an opinion or statement about the topic in general. so thank you for that , truly
Have a great day. Cali
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CalinaNightCyn
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Posted - 2010.03.23 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: AnonyTerrorNinja Personally, I have found many a Legion fit that are quite plainly scary, as well as diverse in their potential use.
Op, you're simply doing it wrong. It may not get the same local tanking capabilities as the other T3 ships, and may not get the same speed as the other T3 ships, and may not get the same damage output (raw, mind you, not hit-type based etc) as the other T3 ships, but it more than makes up for that in...
Wait, nevermind, the less you know about the ship and what can be done with it, the better for myself and my friends when we start cruising in our Legions and people underestimate us.
Haha Fair enough :)
Good Luck truly *grins* Cali
Originally by: big****randymountain
I thought you already left 2 comments back?
I did in fact, I had closed Firefox and saved tabs before I walked away from Pc and when I opened my browser I had the comments right in front of me.. and being who I am I'm not one to let someone make unfair statements and assumptions (providing there adults) once I realized I wasn't dealing with an adult I quickly let it stop bothering me however.
Take Care
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justin666
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Posted - 2010.03.23 11:25:00 -
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Legion is fine tbh just fit it better......
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Baneken
Gallente Aseveljet Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.23 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: thisisnotright CCP is terrible at game balance. They always have been. The reason people complain on the forums, is because of flavour of the month. Meaning CCP boost somethings too much making it flavour of the month and rendering others obsolete.
And you are naive enough to think that CCP is the only one not getting the balance right ? Every single MMO I've played has always had balance issues in one way or another.
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CalinaNightCyn
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Posted - 2010.03.23 11:40:00 -
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Originally by: justin666 Legion is fine tbh just fit it better......
I'm willing to fly with that.. I spent a lot of time fitting Legion and also a lot of time talking to other people about legion and there fits as well as I tried various fits outside of my own ability's from sources such as but not limited to battleclinic.com .. and personally the most impressive fit I found for Legion was RiotRicks C3 solo Legion Fit <-- an excellent fit and after a month of endless toying and searching the only fit I even found remotely impressive.. and all it does is solo class 3 wormholes , something any drake can do at a fraction of the cost.. but I am always opened minded and will continue to check out legion fits but i have exhausted myself trying to make something work personalty..
I currently use RiotRicks c3 Legion Fit. Would love for some one to post a fit to show me a good fit legion, you know show me where I could fit things better *smiles*
Take Care Cali
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bigcockrandymountain
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Posted - 2010.03.23 11:43:00 -
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I wanna see your Legion fit(s) and this 1000 dps 300ehp proteus you claim is possible.
You conveniently ignored Mashie's polite request for this now I'm calling you out. I am pretty sure you are just doing it horribly wrong. Much like you are in terms of posting.
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CalinaNightCyn
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Posted - 2010.03.23 11:48:00 -
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Edited by: CalinaNightCyn on 23/03/2010 11:54:26 Edited by: CalinaNightCyn on 23/03/2010 11:53:03
Originally by: big****randymountain I wanna see your Legion fit(s) and this 1000 dps 300ehp proteus you claim is possible.
You conveniently ignored Mashie's polite request for this now I'm calling you out. I am pretty sure you are just doing it horribly wrong. Much like you are in terms of posting.
this is something easy enough found or Battleclinic.com with a simple search. there are Proteus fits with 300k ehp Buffer tanks and Proteus fits that do 1000 DPS. if your interested search them up yourself but this is fairly common knowledge and common fits.
and also the Legion fit i use now is RiotRicks C3 solo fit its probably the highest rated Legion fit on Battleclinic.com so should be an easy find if you want to see the fit im useing for Legion
Have Great Day. Cali
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bigcockrandymountain
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Posted - 2010.03.23 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: CalinaNightCyn
Originally by: big****randymountain I wanna see your Legion fit(s) and this 1000 dps 300ehp proteus you claim is possible.
You conveniently ignored Mashie's polite request for this now I'm calling you out. I am pretty sure you are just doing it horribly wrong. Much like you are in terms of posting.
this is something easy enough found or Battleclinic.com with a simple search. there are Proteus fits with 300k ehp Buffer tanks and Proteus fits that do 1000 DPS. if your interested search them up yourself but this is fairly common knowledge and common fits.
Have Great Day. Cali
Your original post implies there is a proteus fit that does BOTH. I suggest you communicate better in the future. I will not look at battleclinic for fitting suggestions, that place is full of spastics.
Funny that your reply is a NO U when being called on to back up your claims.
I still want to see how you fit a legion.
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Mashie Saldana
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.23 11:56:00 -
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Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 23/03/2010 11:58:13
Originally by: big****randymountain I wanna see your Legion fit(s) and this 1000 dps 300ehp proteus you claim is possible.
You conveniently ignored Mashie's polite request for this now I'm calling you out. I am pretty sure you are just doing it horribly wrong. Much like you are in terms of posting.
Close but no cigar, this one is with maxed implants, Damnation and Claymore boosting it:
[Proteus, 981dps 280k EHP lol] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Centum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Damage Control II Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Corelum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive Republic Fleet Warp Scrambler Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 100
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Hammerhead II x5
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thisisnotright
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Posted - 2010.03.23 11:59:00 -
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Originally by: CalinaNightCyn
Originally by: thisisnotright CCP is terrible at game balance. They always have been. The reason people complain on the forums, is because of flavour of the month. Meaning CCP boost somethings too much making it flavour of the month and rendering others obsolete.
I can understand totally.. in the case for the legion i wasn't saying that it should be more powerful then the other ships or even asking or implying it should be boosted in any event. I was only saying that the ship didn't seem up to par with the t3 class it is supposed to fit in and as an amarrian that really sucks to train all those skills to get a ship that was good for really doing nothing much.. and if i wanted to fly a t3 ship for PvP I have to really set myself aside for along time leveling support skills for the other nations weapons and even ship skills as well as the 6 Strategic cruiser and subsystems skill for that Nation.. and that is exactly what I'm doing.. and I'm fairly happy in my choice to do so.. I just thought that after all the effort for Legion i would at least say how I felt on the subject.. I was not trying to start anything, whine or even imbue a change.. I mean is a general discussion forum , and that was my only intent to have a conversation about it in general with what i thought was supposed to be a great online Community.. but so far only you and another was able to respond with anything that even resembled an opinion or statement about the topic in general. so thank you for that , truly
Have a great day. Cali
No really, I fly the legion too and I know its bad. I meant what I meant, CCP will probably even it out in a year or two. Such as when Amarr suffered due to the new resistances introduced with red moon rising, CCP denied everything, said amarr was fine, then years after they came out and said that yeah Amarr is suffering and nneds love.
So once again, CCP is terrible at balancing.
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Grunanca
Final Agony B A N E
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Posted - 2010.03.23 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: CalinaNightCyn
Originally by: AnonyTerrorNinja Personally, I have found many a Legion fit that are quite plainly scary, as well as diverse in their potential use.
Op, you're simply doing it wrong. It may not get the same local tanking capabilities as the other T3 ships, and may not get the same speed as the other T3 ships, and may not get the same damage output (raw, mind you, not hit-type based etc) as the other T3 ships, but it more than makes up for that in...
Wait, nevermind, the less you know about the ship and what can be done with it, the better for myself and my friends when we start cruising in our Legions and people underestimate us.
Haha Fair enough :)
Good Luck truly *grins* Cali
Originally by: big****randymountain
I thought you already left 2 comments back?
I did in fact, I had closed Firefox and saved tabs before I walked away from Pc and when I opened my browser I had the comments right in front of me.. and being who I am I'm not one to let someone make unfair statements and assumptions (providing there adults) once I realized I wasn't dealing with an adult I quickly let it stop bothering me however.
Take Care
You would also asume any adult would know the difference between "they are" and "there"...
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Jovialmadness
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Posted - 2010.03.23 12:12:00 -
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Hey op don't worry about it bro. A majority of eve poasters have the mentality of a vegetable garden. The rest of a 12 year old. I am the only one that trully has a brain and a heart.
On that note all tyouze nooblets needs to shutypz legilnz sux. |
CalinaNightCyn
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Posted - 2010.03.23 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mashie Saldana Edited by: Mashie Saldana on 23/03/2010 11:58:13
Originally by: big****randymountain I wanna see your Legion fit(s) and this 1000 dps 300ehp proteus you claim is possible.
You conveniently ignored Mashie's polite request for this now I'm calling you out. I am pretty sure you are just doing it horribly wrong. Much like you are in terms of posting.
Close but no cigar, this one is with maxed implants, Damnation and Claymore boosting it:
[Proteus, 981dps 280k EHP lol] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Centum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Damage Control II Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Corelum A-Type 10MN MicroWarpdrive Republic Fleet Warp Scrambler Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 100
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors
Hammerhead II x5
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[Proteus, Proteus: dmg dealer] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Armor Explosive Hardener II Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
True Sansha Warp Scrambler True Sansha Stasis Webifier Federation Navy 10MN MicroWarpdrive
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Proteus Defensive - Augmented Plating Proteus Electronics - Friction Extension Processor Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors Proteus Offensive - Hybrid Propulsion Armature Proteus Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Hammerhead II x5
this one has 921 dps and 145k ehp with no implants or boost from any other ship.. and is relatively just an ok fit there are afew i like better but just because i mention something doesn't mean im about to start listing fits , you want them look them up .. this is how i got them.. This thread I start about Legion in general not about Proteus ..
Have a good day. Cali
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Phosphorus Palladium
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Posted - 2010.03.23 12:24:00 -
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Calina, you may want this thread moved to the Ships & modules section of the forums.
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CalinaNightCyn
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Posted - 2010.03.23 12:28:00 -
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Take Care
You would also asume any adult would know the difference between "they are" and "there"...
If it makes you happy to point that out , More power to ya :)
I never claimed to be highly educated or able to Spell 100% accurate or have perfect gramer.. In fact, just to clarify so there be no more BS. I Have poor spelling Gramer and Social Skills, a large apart of that I blame on the Drugs in high school and college, the rest I blame simply on coming from the south where we tend to talk a little different then others and use words like there instead of They are..
any other blame that needs to be given for my poor Gramer spelling and Social skills can be closely tied to the fact that I simply don't give a ****. *smiles*
Be well Cali
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Mashie Saldana
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.23 12:31:00 -
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A blaster fitted pvp ship without cap booster.
Btw, my Legion is awesome so don't even think about touching it:
[Legion, Salvager cargo] Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Expanded Cargohold II Signal Amplifier II
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Codebreaker II Analyzer II
Salvager II Salvager II Salvager II Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I
Medium Salvage Tackle II Medium Cargohold Optimization II Medium Cargohold Optimization II
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating Legion Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
I mean what better use is there for a state of the art Amarrian warship than a glorified bin collector.
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