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Neesa Corrinne
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.04.07 09:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Cpt Branko
Edited by: Cpt Branko on 07/04/2010 08:07:43
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
This change will allow people to see what's outside of the station
It's called a cloak.
Unless you can also d-scan from station, there might be 10 gank ships on a offgrid aligned and a cloaky tackler waiting for you and there's literally no possible way to know, if it's a kickoff station you're 100% dead and if it's not a kickoff station then you are maybe dead, or maybe not, depending on your luck with the server.
Funniest thing is that now you can just camp the station from within the station.
All because some station hugging idiots are complaining they can't get kills by sitting on the undock and waiting for their killmaills to appear. Which is somehow not "station games", of course, but a tactic which needs to be boosted obviously.
If you're camped into a station it's YOUR fault.
1) Get some jump clones. Put them somewhere else and leave the station in one easy click. Problem solved.
2) Get some corp mates who know how to shoot something other than a mining laser. Join a corp that knows how to defend itself... then camp THEM in station. Problem solved.
3) Join an NPC corp and don't leave empire. Problem solved.
4) Hire mercs. Mercs love to blow ships up for money. Let them come solve your station camp problem.
If you are still camped into the station, then there are plenty of single player games out there that are incredible and you won't have to deal with other players. I recommend any recent Bioware games if you still don't have any ideas.
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Haramir Haleths
Caldari
Nutella Bande
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Posted - 2010.04.07 09:53:00 -
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Forget the Idea. CCP never will implement it. Hell are you on drugs. 
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1jitadude
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Posted - 2010.04.07 11:15:00 -
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terrible idea
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Skippermonkey
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Posted - 2010.04.07 11:26:00 -
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Its going to happen and will wake people up from their stupor gained from a false sense of security, you cant choose to ignore pvp, bring it on.
Needed to be fixed anyway
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.07 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
If you're camped into a station it's YOUR fault.
Weak comment is weak. Hey, let me spew your crap back at you:
If you're engaging in docking games it's YOUR fault. Don't want to play docking games? Then don't. This is just another case of a supposed "PVPer" having his ego hurt and bruised and wanting to change mechanics to ease his game play. Now what do we call these around here? Ah yes, a carebear.
"Mommy, we trying to lulstationcamp him but he just laffing at us by docking/undocking, plox halp  ."
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1) Get some jump clones. Put them somewhere else and leave the station in one easy click. Problem solved.
Jump clones can only be activated once every 24 hours.
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2) Get some corp mates who know how to shoot something other than a mining laser. Join a corp that knows how to defend itself... then camp THEM in station. Problem solved.
Yep. That's the direction the game is gonna go. Wanna undock? Make sure your blob is bigger. Funny thing is I expect you to ***** and whine on how a bigger blob just outblobbed your station camp and how CCP needs to address this.
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3) Join an NPC corp and don't leave empire. Problem solved.
Or, a simpler solution is for you to stop engaging in docking games if you don't want to play them. But don't mind common sense and logic. It's much easier to cry and whine to make the game easier for ya.
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If you are still camped into the station, then there are plenty of single player games out there that are incredible and you won't have to deal with other players. I recommend any recent Bioware games if you still don't have any ideas.
 How about you? There are plenty of multiplayer games out there where you could literally camp spawn zones and "boom-head-shot" players all day long. Counterstrike comes to mind. Have you considered playing that instead? Seems to be right up your alley.
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Neesa Corrinne
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:05:00 -
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@Matrixskye
First off, these changes are coming whether you like it or not so I don't have to go play counterstrike or anything else at all. You can take all your counter arguments, write them down on a piece of paper, tear it into pieces and eat them for all I care. They mean nothing.
Station games are an abuse of game mechanics, CCP has realized this and they are taking steps to rectify the situation. If you don't want to fight, then don't undock. This game mechanic changes nothing except that if you push the consensual PVP button, you're actually going to have to fight now. Back to rule #1 in EVE.. never fly anything you can't afford to replace, and this won't be a problem.
Oh and BTW, counterstrike is right up my alley. I love twitch based first person shooters, I've been asked to kindly leave at least two COD4 servers because I was getting twice as many kills as the next highest player. I love RTS games, I love TBS games, I love RPG's, and I also play two other MMO's... I play it all. I'm a consummate PC gamer... so take your gaming bigotry elsewhere. :D
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:13:00 -
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It is just a terrible idea, deal with it.
If you want less docking games deal with the problem, the deagro timer. This only promotes station camping, and camping was something we really lacked in eve...
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:25:00 -
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Best way to remove lame docking games is and always will be to disallow activation of any sort of projected effect and drone release while within docking range, allow locking but nothing else. Tweak docking radii as needed.
If CCP cops out and goes for a lame solution like the "point prevents dock" then they should have application of scram double or triple regular docking timer (note: scram, not disruptor) and be done with it - would allow smaller gangs to do their thing as well as the blob (wont diminish blobbing though).
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Neesa Corrinne
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:30:00 -
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Originally by: Furb Killer
It is just a terrible idea, deal with it.
If you want less docking games deal with the problem, the deagro timer. This only promotes station camping, and camping was something we really lacked in eve...
Please tell me exactly what will stop station camping? I'd like to hear this one.
There's only three places in this game where one can regularly expect to find pvp targets; Stations, gates and Belts. So if you think people are just going to suddenly ignore 33.33333% of the directly warpable places to find targets just because of deaggro timers, then you're sorely mistaken.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:47:00 -
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Edited by: MatrixSkye Mk2 on 07/04/2010 12:50:37
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
so take your gaming bigotry elsewhere. :D
Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
If you are still camped into the station, then there are plenty of single player games out there that are incredible and you won't have to deal with other players. I recommend any recent Bioware games if you still don't have any ideas.
Your hypocrisy amuses me. I only threw back at you the crap you spewed yourself. If you can't eat it then don't dish it.
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Ick Ickagami
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Posted - 2010.04.07 12:51:00 -
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You guys are trolled so easily.
Seriously.
mng, stop playing in the kiddie pool. It's not fair.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.04.07 13:13:00 -
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Originally by: Neesa Corrinne
Originally by: Furb Killer
It is just a terrible idea, deal with it.
If you want less docking games deal with the problem, the deagro timer. This only promotes station camping, and camping was something we really lacked in eve...
Please tell me exactly what will stop station camping? I'd like to hear this one.
There's only three places in this game where one can regularly expect to find pvp targets; Stations, gates and Belts. So if you think people are just going to suddenly ignore 33.33333% of the directly warpable places to find targets just because of deaggro timers, then you're sorely mistaken.
Read my post again. What i just said is that station camps definately dont need to be promoted even more, which is what you want.
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CCP Navigator
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.04.07 13:50:00 -
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This thread has now gone quite off topic and will be locked.
Please note that if you have any ideas to change game play then these ideas and discussions should be held in the Features & Ideas forum.
Thank you.
Navigator
Senior Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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