It's what the players want, its what CCP want and its what I want.

The bottom line is this game is already 99% all about FiS (Flying in Space). The winter expansion needs to focus a majority of its development time on WiS (Walking in Stations). I joined this game mainly due to Incarna and that is the game play CCP needs to focus on. Sure change the warp speed on logistics if you must, but keep the focus on WiS.

It's what the players want, its what CCP want and its what I want.

The bottom line is this game is already 99% all about FiS (Flying in Space). The winter expansion needs to focus a majority of its development time on WiS (Walking in Stations). I joined this game mainly due to Incarna and that is the game play CCP needs to focus on. Sure change the warp speed on logistics if you must, but keep the focus on WiS.

It's what the players want, its what CCP want and its what I want.

It's what the players want, its what CCP want and its what I want.

The bottom line is this game is already 99% all about FiS (Flying in Space). The winter expansion needs to focus a majority of its development time on WiS (Walking in Stations). I joined this game mainly due to Incarna and that is the game play CCP needs to focus on. Sure change the warp speed on logistics if you must, but keep the focus on WiS.

It's what the players want, its what CCP want and its what I want.

I joined this game mainly due to Incarna and that is the game play CCP needs to focus on.

So if you start playing Left 4 Dead because you like garden gnomes, it is your opinion that the real problem with this pairing isn't so much that you picked the wrong game, but that Valve focused too much on zombies, rather than gnomesGǪ?

I have to say that I agree that WiS should be further developed, though I don't feel that FiS should be neglected for it. Ideally, I think that Eve should become a balance of the two.

Much the same way that CCP wants to create an interaction between Dust514 and Eve, why not also have a peaceful co-existence between FiS and WiS?

Pesky WT keep docking? Why not have the ability to dock and kick in their front door? If all WiS is ever going to be is 4 racial CQ's and a catwalk, it should be rolled back and we should all be given 6 PLEX and 10m sp.

If, however, it is going to be further developed into an well-integrated part of Eve as a whole, then I am willing to be fully supportive of CCP in this endeavor.

I joined this game mainly due to Incarna ...

Something in the OPs statement makes me think this is a troll, but I just cant quite put my finger on it............

C.

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They've said before, no char-char combat, its not Mortal Kombat, its Eve and no pod pilot is going to risk perma death for a bar brawl. WIS is suposed to be 4 racial quarters with docking areas and station promenades with stores that are player run and thats it.

While I can say that I agree, I hope you are prepared for the impending rage.

So why wouldn't your clone wake up if you die in a station? How is it different to dying in space?
Surely someone could tell the people keeping your clone, that you have infact died, and it'd be nice to have that clone activated?

I don't mean to railroad the thread. Just a little question.
As you were (waiting for Zulu?).

So why wouldn't your clone wake up if you die in a station? How is it different to dying in space?
Surely someone could tell the people keeping your clone, that you have infact died, and it'd be nice to have that clone activated?

I don't mean to railroad the thread. Just a little question.
As you were (waiting for Zulu?).

Just because someone does not think like you, does not make them a troll.

Stuff...

Everyone is a troll is you ask me.
almost all people expect/hope their post will get a response? so they are trolling.
It can be very general term

shall we try and make spacebabies (ingame)? That would make excellent content for winter expansion.

Great.. just what we need, CiS - Crawling in Stations.

Great.. just what we need, CiS - Crawling in Stations.

Because in the Lore, the purpose of the pod to begin with is partly control mechanism and partly clone scanner. The pod, when it starts to detect a breach, fries your brain getting a fast scan to transmit to the cloning network. It's so deeply ground into the Lore that pod pilots often live their whole lives without unplugging because of the unpleasant nature of decanting and the vulnerability of being on wiggly little legs.

Walking in Stations goes against the very core of what EVE is. It has no place in the game. And the pod jacuzzi in the CQ especially has no room in the game (it's an insult to everyone who's ever played or worked on developing the game.)

Supposedly, they were going to explain away the Lore with something about using the same tech the Dusters use, except CCP cba'd. They've stopped caring about what makes EVE, EVE.

They've said before, no char-char combat, its not Mortal Kombat, its Eve and no pod pilot is going to risk perma death for a bar brawl. WIS is suposed to be 4 racial quarters with docking areas and station promenades with stores that are player run and thats it.

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It's what the players want

Stakeout time!

Anyone got a house across from CCP Zulu's office window, a pair of nightvision goggles with telescoping lens, and a couple of squad cars they can loan?

So if you start playing Left 4 Dead because you like garden gnomes, it is your opinion that the real problem with this pairing isn't so much that you picked the wrong game, but that Valve focused too much on zombies, rather than gnomesGǪ?

Get establishments/the missing CQ's out the door, yes. Then let it settle in for an expansion cycle aside from modest tweaks/fixes.

But the traditional space-bound aspects of this game are crying out for iteration right now. Null sec needs a damn good shake up, capitals need a general rebalance (not decided if carriers should be touched or not) and factional warfare is about 3 years overdue for iteration.

We need an EVE where small gangs have something to do, where a single power block does not dominate over half of all null sec, where super capitals do not camp a low sec gate for ganks and capital hot drops are not the biggest threat to ratters.

I would also like to see Electronic Attack Ships outside of alliance tournaments. I don't remember the last time I saw one being flown.

So if you start playing Left 4 Dead because you like garden gnomes, it is your opinion that the real problem with this pairing isn't so much that you picked the wrong game, but that Valve focused too much on zombies, rather than gnomesGǪ?

Did Valve make a big deal of garden gnomes through the trade press and fan conventions? No they didn't. CCP have made a big thing of "EVE Online is a sci-fi simulator. Here is walking-in-stations" through trade press and presentations at several FanFests. To call your analogy flawed would imply that there was some validity to it in the first place.

While I didn't join EVE specifically for WiS, I have been looking forward to it for some time. EVE is not an internet spaceships game. It's a game of politics, subterfuge, capitalism, empire building and trust. There happens to be a lot of blowing up of spaceships happening to support the actual gameplay right now because that's the main technical feature of the game.

The bottom line is this game is already 99% all about FiS (Flying in Space). The winter expansion needs to focus a majority of its development time on WiS (Walking in Stations). I joined this game mainly due to Incarna and that is the game play CCP needs to focus on. Sure change the warp speed on logistics if you must, but keep the focus on WiS.

It's what the players want, its what CCP want and its what I want.

Walking in Stations goes against the very core of what EVE is. It has no place in the game.

Give it time OP, give it time.

Good things come to those that wait

EVE is not an internet spaceships game. It's a game of politics, subterfuge, capitalism, empire building and trust.

EVE Online is set in space, in a far away future, in a world of unprecedented depth and magnitude. Your aim is to establish yourself as a major mover and shaker, trusted by your friends and respected by your enemies. Your means of accomplishing this will lie in your business acumen, social skills, Machiavellian thinking and cunning combat strategies. To back that up, you have access to an array of sophisticated equipment, deadly weapons, state of the art spaceships and connections to mega-corporations and crime syndicates.

- C C P


sounds like a game full of spaceships to me.

I slightly was sarcastic, but when you conquer a region with your space babe without a ship we got problems..

EVE is having growing pains fitting into this new environment and some people will like it, some just don't care about aesthetics and want some actual content to play with in the game.


If I was asked "what is eve" without explaining something as boring as your character aesthetics, I rather say it's a space(ship) game.

The bottom line is this game is already 99% all about FiS (Flying in Space). The winter expansion needs to focus a majority of its development time on WiS (Walking in Stations). I joined this game mainly due to Incarna and that is the game play CCP needs to focus on. Sure change the warp speed on logistics if you must, but keep the focus on WiS.

It's what the players want, its what CCP want and its what I want.

You do realize the moment WiS happens properly, you'll see 1200 goons around with their penises out in Jita station or 4chan does a trial account raid and does the AIDS IN THE POOL routine.

You've obviously never heard of Daikatana

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Usually, when people ask me what "EVE" is, I tell them it's the greatest scifi space opera MMO ever made. And that you can fly ships.

You've obviously never heard of Daikatana

The first sentence may be somewhat right, if you put the word "exclusively" between "not" and "an".

The second one definitely is.

But neither of them require ANY degree of Space Barbies, however.

Never had before Incarna, never will after the most recent expansion.

WiS is just a free-as-in-beer beta test for WoD technology. If your throat is not as sore as most others after having it shoved down, I'm happy for you. Now, could you WiSsers please return to your Farmville avatar building, please, and leave us internet spaceship and politics/subterfuge/capitalism/etc. junks alone?

Poor description. Eve is an internet spaceship game.

DAIKATANA?

WHY U NO LET ME FORGET?

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They've said before, no char-char combat, its not Mortal Kombat, its Eve and no pod pilot is going to risk perma death for a bar brawl. WIS is suposed to be 4 racial quarters with docking areas and station promenades with stores that are player run and thats it.

Now, you do realise that people are trying to be kind to you by calling you a troll, right?

So if you start playing Left 4 Dead because you like garden gnomes, it is your opinion that the real problem with this pairing isn't so much that you picked the wrong game, but that Valve focused too much on zombies, rather than gnomesGǪ?

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seriously... you'd think from the amount of whining i have seen from the CSM that the last 10 expansions have done nothing to FiS...

there has been ONE whole expansion where 'ambulation' has been, after so many months (years) of waiting, released and showcased. just one. and even then some of the little things that irritated people in space have been fixed.

not to mention our shiny new turrets...

it seems a little harsh of the CSM to whine this much about one expansion, especially one that was specifically geared towards the release of ambulation ( WiS).

Ambulation has been planned for how long now? CCP has been saying it intended to do such an expansion for a long time, and a lot of people were complaining that it had not yet happened.
now that it has finally happened, all i see is complaints that CCP have spent the necessary time and resources to make it happen.

you can't have it both ways, and personally, i think it is about time that WiS was released.

one last point... to those who are complaining, and in some cases performing acts that could well be seen as IG-sabotage (Jita riots etc)

CCP have given us a great game, and so far, twice a year, have given us FREE expansions to allow us to use more of the universe they have created for us, mos other games charge as much as the original game costs for each expansion, and release them on a much slower basis.

I would personally like to thank the Dev team for their hard work, and reiterate my belief that WiS is a good thing for the game. Immersion is a good thing, and it is something that EvE has been lagging behind on for some time.

- Rok

The bottom line is this game is already 99% all about FiS (Flying in Space). The winter expansion needs to focus a majority of its development time on WiS (Walking in Stations). I joined this game mainly due to Incarna and that is the game play CCP needs to focus on. Sure change the warp speed on logistics if you must, but keep the focus on WiS.

It's what the players want, its what CCP want and its what I want.

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CCP have made a big thing of "EVE Online is a sci-fi simulator. Here is walking-in-stations" through trade press and presentations at several FanFests.

While I didn't join EVE specifically for WiS, I have been looking forward to it for some time.

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I can see no way that WIS can do anything but improve the immersion of this game.

Why are some people so against this?

I've been waiting three plus years for this, as have many others. If you can be bothered to look back more than six posts, you'll also see that it was a part of the original vision for this game, limited by the technology of the time.

Well, now they have the means to continue their dream of the most comprehensive future sim in the genre and I look forward to seeing how it goes.

You all got your ship spinning back. Hooray for you. I'd rather take a stroll on the promenade deck, thank you.


Mr Epeen

I have two guesses...

Either Oct 2 or Oct 20

"space equals 20"

I got the 2nd from the decimal for 0x20 being 32 and if Sept had 32 days it would land on Oct 2nd

Tho I guess you could try applying this to any month...

if wis actually provided any value to eve and my gaming experiance that woudl be great, currently it dosnt add anything to me personnaly, and tbqh my game experance is about me and shooting people in the face when i choose to.

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The bottom line is this game is already 99% all about FiS (Flying in Space). .... I joined this game mainly due to Incarna and that is the game play CCP needs to focus on. .....

At the risk of seeming too pedantic, the only way you can be properly 'shooting people in the face when i choose to' is avatar to avatar, not ship to ship.

I too would like the opportunity to do this. Thus WIS is what we need.

Or expand DUST to include station battles.

Mr Epeen

I want fully functional WiS. With Establishments I can own and operate for profit.

In b4 DevAlt accusation directed at me. umad, bro?

I am personally waiting for bar fights. Me and my chums can go to some money making establishment and smash the place up just for fun. Or are you expecting Concord to intervene ? Heh, not before we gank your shop.

I am personally waiting for bar fights. Me and my chums can go to some money making establishment and smash the place up just for fun. Or are you expecting Concord to intervene ? Heh, not before we gank your shop.

The first sentence may be somewhat right, if you put the word "exclusively" between "not" and "an".

The second one definitely is.

But neither of them require ANY degree of Space Barbies, however.

It's what the players want

It's not what I want - do not assume that you speak for the majority of players, that kind of arrogance desrves to be flamed.


If you really want a walking avatar more than anything else Sofia, may I suggest Wow - or better still Hello Kitty online.

The bottom line is this game is already 99% all about FiS (Flying in Space). The winter expansion needs to focus a majority of its development time on WiS (Walking in Stations). I joined this game mainly due to Incarna and that is the game play CCP needs to focus on. Sure change the warp speed on logistics if you must, but keep the focus on WiS.

It's what the players want, its what CCP want and its what I want.

And you are also not speaking for the majority of players and EVE is certainly not counterstrike in space.

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Watch people contemplate cancelling accounts since they are tired of watching and waiting...

You know... Second Life lets you do basically anything you want with your avatars. You can dress them up in giant phalli, sailor moon, or gay pirate outfits. Anything a 50 year old German's or any age Japanese's perversions can conjure. So... you know... all you folks wanting to play barbies... Oh, and did I mention, it's free? So... see you... um... what's the opposite of later? Never again. /me crosses fingers

The bottom line is this game is already 99% all about FiS (Flying in Space). The winter expansion needs to focus a majority of its development time on WiS (Walking in Stations). I joined this game mainly due to Incarna and that is the game play CCP needs to focus on. Sure change the warp speed on logistics if you must, but keep the focus on WiS.

It's what the players want, its what CCP want and its what I want.