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Sasha Krah'n
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Posted - 2010.05.13 22:32:00 -
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All,
We'd like to let the EVE community preview a project that we started 3 weeks ago. The idea is a league that will have several seasons throughout the year. The objective of the season will be to see which team will get the most kills/points versus the designated target corp(s)/alliance(s).
Eve Predator League
(The website was developed in MS Silverlight, so you will need to install the plugin if you do not have it. It is Microsoft's competitor to Adobe Flash. The reason we chose this platform is its ability to connect directly to a database and its visuals.)
Each team will have a restricted member limit -- we're thinking 10 at first. These teams will join the alliance to participate in the war/season for the duration of the hunt. Once the season is over, the points are tallied and the prizes are distributed. I'll just stop here so that I don't duplicate information that you read on our website. We want to hear your thoughts and/or ideas. The website is obviously not complete but we're at a point to start receving feedback. Don't worry, we're not totally set on the name of the league yet.
Thanks
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Legs Mackenzie
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Posted - 2010.05.13 22:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Sasha Krah'n
(The website was developed in MS Silverlight, so you will need to install the plugin if you do not have it.....
No.
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Owen Drakkar
Terra Nostra
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Posted - 2010.05.13 22:37:00 -
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IMO Alien did it better.
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ElJo123
Accompanied By Unicorns
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Posted - 2010.05.13 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sasha Krah'n
The reason we chose this platform is its ability to connect directly to a database and its visuals.
No.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.05.13 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Legs Mackenzie
Originally by: Sasha Krah'n
(The website was developed in MS Silverlight, so you will need to install the plugin if you do not have it.....
No.
My sentiments exactly.
Slade
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Ex0101
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Posted - 2010.05.13 23:38:00 -
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How do you intend to stop teams coordinating agreements to fix kill counts etc for prizes?
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Gundore
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Posted - 2010.05.13 23:43:00 -
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lol, unless everyone that is replaying to this is still using linux, your not going to have much of a choice pretty soon. Considering EVERYTHING is going to Silverlight faster than any technology ever has moved. Lets see.. bing maps, Netflix, Olympics Official streaming site, ESRI GIS (one of the worlds largest GIS data distrubutions, Preinstalled on all Nokia phone. Pretty soon, it will already be embedded in your browser, so if you are using Windows, so your going to get it anyways. :)
But of course Sasha, you might have to wait for all the 'wannabe' technology experts to post their dumb comments with no reasons behind it (which they really have none anyways), before you can get some any quality comments.
Good work!
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Sasha Krah'n
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Posted - 2010.05.14 00:09:00 -
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Ah! Thank you for fielding the initial posts for me, Gundore. I was going to reassure everyone that we did not develop the Silverlight plug-in. Sure as hell wish we could take credit for it, but we can't. :)
Silverlight is currently installed on about 60% of all internet connected devices....roughly. I understand the anti-tech/anti-microsoft mentality but the benefit that it brings to our development environment and presentation is huge.
Ex0101: In regards to teams forming mini-alliances.
To address this type of issue will require a few pilot seasons to see if this would pan out to be a problem. If teams are coordinating with each other to fix kills, they actually just end up reducing their respective team's score. We don't want to discourage teams from working together, but ultimately one will have to get more kills than the other to win. Think of how the TV show 'Survivor' works.
In the scenario of two teams working together to bolster only one team's score, they would pay double the entry fees and halve the prize money. So it really wouldn't make sense to do this unless they were just in it for the pride. I'm not saying this won't happen, but we can always investigate/look at team performance histories to find out if such activity is detrimental to the competition. Again, this kind of thing requires trial and error.
Again, thank you Gundore. :)
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.05.14 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Gundore
lol, unless everyone that is replying to this is still using linux
Hi, I'm using linux with google chrome atm.
So I'll just hop in with "No" as well :)
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar
Gith Industries
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Posted - 2010.05.14 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: Sasha Krah'n
MS Silverlight
Never
Vote Abstain - Let YOUR voice be heard.
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Sasha Krah'n
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Posted - 2010.05.14 00:41:00 -
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chatgris: Open source implementation of Microsoft Silverlight for Linux
http://www.mono-project.com/Main_Page
You're in luck...it's called Moonlight.
I believe Moonlight can support Silverlight version 2.0. We are currently developing in 3.0 but I don't think we're using anything that 2.0 can't handle. If you click the "Learn More" under Moonlight, you'll see all of the install info.
I understand we're going to lose a few people initially because of our choice of technology. This is not a major concern considering Silverlight's rapid growth...
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Marko Riva
Adamant Inc.
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Posted - 2010.05.14 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: Legs Mackenzie
Originally by: Sasha Krah'n
(The website was developed in MS Silverlight, so you will need to install the plugin if you do not have it.....
No.
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I think, therefore I'm single.
Want to learn combat/PVP?
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Legs Mackenzie
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Posted - 2010.05.14 00:45:00 -
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Do you work for Microsoft or something?
I prefer open standards myself, inferior as they may be.
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Sasha Krah'n
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Posted - 2010.05.14 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Legs Mackenzie
Do you work for Microsoft or something?
I prefer open standards myself, inferior as they may be.
Nope. I just see the potential for this particular technology and I enjoy developing in it.
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Datdaar Vanmestvaalt
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.05.14 00:56:00 -
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MS Silverlight plugin....mmmm......
Makes the site unusable in the in game browser.
That means I will not visit it.
Sign on the dotted line:............. |
Analia Hlena
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Posted - 2010.05.14 01:09:00 -
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Tis a good thing that is giving something TO the eve community instead of taking from it, otherwise I would be offended by the 'no'. Unfortuatly, we aren't selling something that is going to make us isk and asking you to buy into it (in fact, it's going to cost us alot of isk, not to mention all the time in development), so to those that say NO because of either their choice of OS and Browser doesn't support the latest internet technologies or perhaps you have some personal agenda with MS technologies that you just can't get over, then all I got say is, "Wish you could join in the fun!".
And no, we don't work for Microsoft, but I have been a professional developer since 1997 and have done projects for major compainies such as Wal-Mart, Tyson Foods, Gerber and several others. Lucky for me, these multi-billion dollar companies feel more comfortable with microsoft technologies then some of you. :) Otherwise, I might not still have a job.
Anways, this isn't about technology war. I really don't care if a person chooses not to partake because of some personal problem with certain technologies (I use all technologies myself, each has their own pros and cons and I feel it's silly to limit yourself) . But anyways, we are here to create some challenges and tourney play in Eve, those that can come aboard are those we look forward to hearing from.
Feel free to contact me ingame as well for more information.
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Paknac Queltel
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.05.14 01:33:00 -
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Why Silverlight just for some visuals and database queries? Javascript can do such stuff with ease. Consider that an ever growing number of people are using their cell phones and stuff to access the web. Both the iPhone and its unwisely named larger cousin will likely never allow Flash or Silver/Moonlight unjailbroken, if at all. The Palm Pre I'm writing this on currently also doesn't have Moonlight, nor will I ever install it, should it become available.
Silverlight is not the right tool for this job. But hey, it's your project, feel free to use whatever you want.
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Paknac Queltel
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.05.14 01:35:00 -
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Hopping on the no bandwagon..
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Get off the forums and go kill someone!
A vote for Cat will be just as effective as his voice will be for you! lol |
Legende
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.05.14 01:53:00 -
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I wonder if all these people so eager to put down Silverlight are aware of how insecure and unstable Adobe Flash is... granted linux and osx users are left out of the loop currently, but there seems to be a general "screw silverlight, go flash!" mentality when it comes to these things. I think Jobs was quoted saying flash was responsible for some ungodly high number of safari crashes under osx... go flash indeed.
That said, silverlight is a flash replacement... and I've always hated sites made entirely out of flash and the same holds true for silverlight.
I really like the concept of this league, I will be keeping a closer eye on it.
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Sasha Krah'n
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Posted - 2010.05.14 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Hopping on the no bandwagon..
I realize not everyone reads the entire thread before posting. Let me be as clear as possible about this "bandwagon" against Silverlight. We could not care less about how you feel towards a certain technology. Obviously, you do not fall into our target audience. Unfortunately, you just limit your ability to participate.
Paknac Queltel:
Silverlight is the perfect technology for this project. This is what we're interested in as leading technology developers and this is what helps us stick to our goals. We're not worried about whether or not you can see the website from your ipad (or in-game). The only thing the site does is keep track of the scoring and displays it for everybody (correction, Silverlight users) along with other league information.
We're wanting input on the actual idea, not the pretty pictures.
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Zeba
Minmatar
Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.05.14 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Sasha Krah'n
Originally by: Zeba
Hopping on the no bandwagon..
I realize not everyone reads the entire thread before posting. Let me be as clear as possible about this "bandwagon" against Silverlight. We could not care less about how you feel towards a certain technology. Obviously, you do not fall into our target audience. Unfortunately, you just limit your ability to participate.
Paknac Queltel:
Silverlight is the perfect technology for this project. This is what we're interested in as leading technology developers and this is what helps us stick to our goals. We're not worried about whether or not you can see the website from your ipad (or in-game). The only thing the site does is keep track of the scoring and displays it for everybody (correction, Silverlight users) along with other league information.
We're wanting input on the actual idea, not the pretty pictures.
I have the silverlight plugin because I have netflix and it wants to install it to use the ****ing site. Its utter ****ing crap that crashes my browser at every oppourtunity. ****, your site crashed the first time I clicked on it. Flash might be a bit insecure for stupid users but at least its hella stable.
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Get off the forums and go kill someone!
A vote for Cat will be just as effective as his voice will be for you! lol |
Sasha Krah'n
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Posted - 2010.05.14 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Legende
I wonder if all these people so eager to put down Silverlight are aware of how insecure and unstable Adobe Flash is... granted linux and osx users are left out of the loop currently, but there seems to be a general "screw silverlight, go flash!" mentality when it comes to these things. I think Jobs was quoted saying flash was responsible for some ungodly high number of safari crashes under osx... go flash indeed.
That said, silverlight is a flash replacement... and I've always hated sites made entirely out of flash and the same holds true for silverlight.
I really like the concept of this league, I will be keeping a closer eye on it.
Thank you. We're really glad that you like the concept. This makes the forum gauntlet worth it.
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Sasha Krah'n
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Posted - 2010.05.14 03:11:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Sasha Krah'n
Originally by: Zeba
Hopping on the no bandwagon..
I realize not everyone reads the entire thread before posting. Let me be as clear as possible about this "bandwagon" against Silverlight. We could not care less about how you feel towards a certain technology. Obviously, you do not fall into our target audience. Unfortunately, you just limit your ability to participate.
Paknac Queltel:
Silverlight is the perfect technology for this project. This is what we're interested in as leading technology developers and this is what helps us stick to our goals. We're not worried about whether or not you can see the website from your ipad (or in-game). The only thing the site does is keep track of the scoring and displays it for everybody (correction, Silverlight users) along with other league information.
We're wanting input on the actual idea, not the pretty pictures.
I have the silverlight plugin because I have netflix and it wants to install it to use the ****ing site. Its utter ****ing crap that crashes my browser at every oppourtunity. ****, your site crashed the first time I clicked on it. Flash might be a bit insecure for stupid users but at least its hella stable.
Hmm, that's odd. We've used hundreds of Silverlight applications and seen hundreds of Netflix movies with absolutely no issues whatsoever...along with millions of other users. Think maybe it might be your machine? :)
Malwarebytes
Here's a good, free virus scanner. :)
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Ruby Udders
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Posted - 2010.05.14 03:37:00 -
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Edited by: Ruby Udders on 14/05/2010 03:37:42
Would love to visit your site but am unfortunately allergic to vendor lock-in.
Also:
Originally by: Legs Mackenzie
I prefer open standards myself, inferior as they may be.
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Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
Spreadsheets Online
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Posted - 2010.05.14 03:46:00 -
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Quote:
The website was developed in MS Silverlight,
laughinggirls.gif
Enjoy your Microsoft enslavement.
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To make a megathron from scratch, you must first invent the eve universe.
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Sasha Krah'n
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Posted - 2010.05.14 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ruby Udders
Edited by: Ruby Udders on 14/05/2010 03:37:42
Would love to visit your site but am unfortunately allergic to vendor lock-in.
Also:
Originally by: Legs Mackenzie
I prefer open standards myself, inferior as they may be.
This forum itself is developed with Microsoft technology known as Active Server Pages (.asp).
Wiki ASP
Also, this may help you apply vendor lock-in to appropriate scenarios...
Wiki Vendor Lock-In
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Frost Wolf
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Posted - 2010.05.14 04:05:00 -
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Sounds interesting. Keep fighting those Linux Trolls Sasha.
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Analia Hlena
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Posted - 2010.05.14 04:09:00 -
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Originally by: Frost Wolf
Sounds interesting. Keep fighting those Linux Trolls Sasha.
lol, well.. I'm trying to keep outa it myself. But, it amazes me how the linux hippies feel the need to carry on a 15 year old battle. Thanks for the compliment.
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Sasha Krah'n
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Posted - 2010.05.14 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Frost Wolf
Sounds interesting. Keep fighting those Linux Trolls Sasha.
lol thanks, it hasn't been difficult so far. the posts are mostly quantity rather than quality. :)
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Terro Deagas
GZS-R Minmatar Fleet
The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2010.05.14 04:20:00 -
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Originally by: Sasha Krah'n
Originally by: Ruby Udders
Edited by: Ruby Udders on 14/05/2010 03:37:42
Would love to visit your site but am unfortunately allergic to vendor lock-in.
Also:
Originally by: Legs Mackenzie
I prefer open standards myself, inferior as they may be.
This forum itself is developed with Microsoft technology known as Active Server Pages (.asp).
Wiki ASP
Also, this may help you apply vendor lock-in to appropriate scenarios...
Wiki Vendor Lock-In
And these forums are widely regarded as the poorest ever made
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