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Zavier Sozeron
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:40:00 -
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I have been using blasters on my Thron for a while now for missions and pvp. However whenever I take on a Raven or Apoc either the Damage I do isnt enough or they slowly overcome my tank. My current Setup:
High Slots - 3 x Large Regulated Ions
- 3 x Large Limited Ions
- 2 x Named Nosferataus (24kms range)
Med Slots - 1 x Named Web
- 1 x MWD
- 2 x 16% Cap rechargers
Low Slots - 1 x Large Inefficient Armour repairer( 660 HP per 13.5 sec cycle)
- Named Thermal, Kinetic and Explosive Hardeners.
- 1 x Tungsten Rolled Plates
- 2 x Named Cap Fluxes (20% cap recharge,- 10% Sheild boost).
nb Uses 8 ogres
My Tactics are to mwd to about 10kms web them and start firing and nossing. I can pretty much keep the guns and armour repairer going solid as well as the hardeners if they dont Nos me.If they make the proposed changes to Afterburners so they give a 200% speed boost then I would swap that for the MWD and mebbe put some neutrons on. Any tips on breaking Through the sheild and armour tanks of those smelly caldari and the cap horders of amarr would be fully appreciated.
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Zavier Sozeron
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:40:00 -
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I have been using blasters on my Thron for a while now for missions and pvp. However whenever I take on a Raven or Apoc either the Damage I do isnt enough or they slowly overcome my tank. My current Setup:
High Slots - 3 x Large Regulated Ions
- 3 x Large Limited Ions
- 2 x Named Nosferataus (24kms range)
Med Slots - 1 x Named Web
- 1 x MWD
- 2 x 16% Cap rechargers
Low Slots - 1 x Large Inefficient Armour repairer( 660 HP per 13.5 sec cycle)
- Named Thermal, Kinetic and Explosive Hardeners.
- 1 x Tungsten Rolled Plates
- 2 x Named Cap Fluxes (20% cap recharge,- 10% Sheild boost).
nb Uses 8 ogres
My Tactics are to mwd to about 10kms web them and start firing and nossing. I can pretty much keep the guns and armour repairer going solid as well as the hardeners if they dont Nos me.If they make the proposed changes to Afterburners so they give a 200% speed boost then I would swap that for the MWD and mebbe put some neutrons on. Any tips on breaking Through the sheild and armour tanks of those smelly caldari and the cap horders of amarr would be fully appreciated.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:44:00 -
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Use two accos or commander/faction stuff.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:44:00 -
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Use two accos or commander/faction stuff.
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Zavier Sozeron
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:45:00 -
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2 Accoms and I cant fit jack. It's not an apoc ^^
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Zavier Sozeron
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:45:00 -
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2 Accoms and I cant fit jack. It's not an apoc ^^
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:47:00 -
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Well, sounds lik you got a nice setup, but the cap fluxes arent what subtract shield boosting, those are cap power relays u must be talking about. As for beating the tanks, Im sure you can take on Amarr ships being VERY close to them, getting under their turret range to where they cant hit you. Caldari is another story, I say just keep nossing them and hope for the best. One setup suggestion though, instead of cap rechargers, why dont you somehow find a way to fit a Heavy Named Cap Booster, and use some Cap Boost charges, I hear they work wonders on Blasterthrons.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:47:00 -
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Well, sounds lik you got a nice setup, but the cap fluxes arent what subtract shield boosting, those are cap power relays u must be talking about. As for beating the tanks, Im sure you can take on Amarr ships being VERY close to them, getting under their turret range to where they cant hit you. Caldari is another story, I say just keep nossing them and hope for the best. One setup suggestion though, instead of cap rechargers, why dont you somehow find a way to fit a Heavy Named Cap Booster, and use some Cap Boost charges, I hear they work wonders on Blasterthrons.
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Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:48:00 -
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Also remember, I am not sure how old you are ingame, but remember, skills make or break your setup, make sure you have at LEAST engineering lvl 5 and electronics lvl 5. And some good cap skills would be cool. Also train up your mechanic skills for better tanking.
Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is. |
Trey Azagthoth
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:48:00 -
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Also remember, I am not sure how old you are ingame, but remember, skills make or break your setup, make sure you have at LEAST engineering lvl 5 and electronics lvl 5. And some good cap skills would be cool. Also train up your mechanic skills for better tanking.
Vin Diesel claims he has never hailed a taxi. He just runs up to them at stop lights, opens the door, shoves the current passenger over, and tells the cab driver what his new destination is. |
Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Zavier Sozeron
2 Accoms and I cant fit jack. It's not an apoc ^^
Nah, your skills just suck 4ss. ^^
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Zavier Sozeron
2 Accoms and I cant fit jack. It's not an apoc ^^
Nah, your skills just suck 4ss. ^^
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Synaig0
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Synaig0 on 07/12/2004 16:55:31
*note I do NOT fly a megathron but do have extensive experience with rax/brutix*
Ok..
I personally would ditch the cap stuff in low, drop the ions for electrons, get a cap injector for cap support(u just reduced pg use by dropping to electrons) and get 2 t2 damage mods in there giving u a nice fat damage bonus of 38% on top of the electrons. Also modal electrons are no where near as expensive as the higher class named (ions/neutrons) and should bring your total damage output up by a lot..
I really cant stress the damage mod enough.. the dot (damage over time) difference between electrons and ions is only 6.66% while a single t2 damage mod gives u 23% and the 2nd 15% on top of that.
Now I have no id if the megathron can support this with its cpu, but this is just some stuff I learned flying the other blasterboats.
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I'm the guy with the sleepy look...
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Synaig0
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Synaig0 on 07/12/2004 16:55:31
*note I do NOT fly a megathron but do have extensive experience with rax/brutix*
Ok..
I personally would ditch the cap stuff in low, drop the ions for electrons, get a cap injector for cap support(u just reduced pg use by dropping to electrons) and get 2 t2 damage mods in there giving u a nice fat damage bonus of 38% on top of the electrons. Also modal electrons are no where near as expensive as the higher class named (ions/neutrons) and should bring your total damage output up by a lot..
I really cant stress the damage mod enough.. the dot (damage over time) difference between electrons and ions is only 6.66% while a single t2 damage mod gives u 23% and the 2nd 15% on top of that.
Now I have no id if the megathron can support this with its cpu, but this is just some stuff I learned flying the other blasterboats.
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I'm the guy with the sleepy look...
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Zavier Sozeron
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Zavier Sozeron on 07/12/2004 16:57:27
The thing is Cap isnt my problem, I can go on pretty much indefinitely with guns + armour repairer + nos. The real problem is punching through the tanks of other bs.
nb late post :)
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Zavier Sozeron
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Posted - 2004.12.07 16:52:00 -
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Edited by: Zavier Sozeron on 07/12/2004 16:57:27
The thing is Cap isnt my problem, I can go on pretty much indefinitely with guns + armour repairer + nos. The real problem is punching through the tanks of other bs.
nb late post :)
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siim
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Posted - 2004.12.07 17:04:00 -
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Hey m8 if u cant punch through A Ravens shield or Apoc's armor !
Then u dont deserve a blasterthron m8.
Easy as that
Use a rax or Brutix until u have better skills dude 
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siim
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Posted - 2004.12.07 17:04:00 -
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Hey m8 if u cant punch through A Ravens shield or Apoc's armor !
Then u dont deserve a blasterthron m8.
Easy as that
Use a rax or Brutix until u have better skills dude
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Abomination
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Posted - 2004.12.07 17:15:00 -
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remove the tungsten plate and fit something that increases your res's, cap, or dmg. Armor plates just make you go slower, and they use valuable grid. |
Abomination
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Posted - 2004.12.07 17:15:00 -
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remove the tungsten plate and fit something that increases your res's, cap, or dmg. Armor plates just make you go slower, and they use valuable grid. |
Medreena
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Posted - 2004.12.07 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: siim
Hey m8 if u cant punch through A Ravens shield or Apoc's armor !
Then u dont deserve a blasterthron m8.
Easy as that
Use a rax or Brutix until u have better skills dude
Wrong, The Raven is one of the hardest tanked ships out there, along with the amarr ships, the problem being that the megathron does kinetic and thermal damage primarly and this (on a correctly setup raven) are the 2 strongest defences.
Now even if u manage to get in close with your blasterthron, u most likley sufferd thousands of hit points of damage before you got into your optimal ranges, and the mwd usage to get that far most likley cost a good portion of your cap.
Now all the raven pilot has to do is sit there watch this and choose the best torpedo for the job to finish you off.
BTW I Fly an Apoc but own a Raven and Megathron also. Skilpoints 13 mil so dont call me a noob 
Good luck for a raven beating setup.
Med
The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is for Good Men to Do Nothing... |
Medreena
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Posted - 2004.12.07 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: siim
Hey m8 if u cant punch through A Ravens shield or Apoc's armor !
Then u dont deserve a blasterthron m8.
Easy as that
Use a rax or Brutix until u have better skills dude
Wrong, The Raven is one of the hardest tanked ships out there, along with the amarr ships, the problem being that the megathron does kinetic and thermal damage primarly and this (on a correctly setup raven) are the 2 strongest defences.
Now even if u manage to get in close with your blasterthron, u most likley sufferd thousands of hit points of damage before you got into your optimal ranges, and the mwd usage to get that far most likley cost a good portion of your cap.
Now all the raven pilot has to do is sit there watch this and choose the best torpedo for the job to finish you off.
BTW I Fly an Apoc but own a Raven and Megathron also. Skilpoints 13 mil so dont call me a noob
Good luck for a raven beating setup.
Med
The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is for Good Men to Do Nothing... |
Zavier Sozeron
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Posted - 2004.12.07 20:53:00 -
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I'll try the named electron fit. Sounds like more damage Time to "go beserk" 
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Zavier Sozeron
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Posted - 2004.12.07 20:53:00 -
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I'll try the named electron fit. Sounds like more damage Time to "go beserk"
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Thanit
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Posted - 2004.12.07 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: Thanit on 07/12/2004 22:19:11
well, 1v1 there's really little but going blasterthron.
For engagements in which you have support however going gankathron is a good option since it works well in larger fights as well.
A nice but risky setup for a gankathron is the following:
7x 425mm carbide or better
1x nothing or assault with defenders/lights
1x mwd
2x dampener
1x cap recharger II
1x med repairer II
1x 1600mm plate
4x damage mod
1x RCUII
Fits well enough, does awesome damage against battleships at nearly all ranges (down to 5km even and up to 50 with AM). MWD is for travel mainly, can be shut down at battle.
Only downside: cap recharge is lowish, cant withstand much fire. Damage is good enough to take down a well tanked Raven pretty damn fast. Get a range of 30 km at least and the two dampeners will more or less guarantee the other guy cant lock you. Fof remain, but as wen know damage is much less with those.
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Thanit
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Posted - 2004.12.07 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: Thanit on 07/12/2004 22:19:11
well, 1v1 there's really little but going blasterthron.
For engagements in which you have support however going gankathron is a good option since it works well in larger fights as well.
A nice but risky setup for a gankathron is the following:
7x 425mm carbide or better
1x nothing or assault with defenders/lights
1x mwd
2x dampener
1x cap recharger II
1x med repairer II
1x 1600mm plate
4x damage mod
1x RCUII
Fits well enough, does awesome damage against battleships at nearly all ranges (down to 5km even and up to 50 with AM). MWD is for travel mainly, can be shut down at battle.
Only downside: cap recharge is lowish, cant withstand much fire. Damage is good enough to take down a well tanked Raven pretty damn fast. Get a range of 30 km at least and the two dampeners will more or less guarantee the other guy cant lock you. Fof remain, but as wen know damage is much less with those.
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Renox
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Posted - 2004.12.08 00:14:00 -
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try dropping some of the tanking stuff and add a few dam mods (2 or 3)
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Renox
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Posted - 2004.12.08 00:14:00 -
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try dropping some of the tanking stuff and add a few dam mods (2 or 3)
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While Celestial Apoc is filled with smack talking, safespot hugging, gate cudling, empire war exploiting |
Araviel
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Posted - 2004.12.08 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Medreena
Originally by: siim
Hey m8 if u cant punch through A Ravens shield or Apoc's armor !
Then u dont deserve a blasterthron m8.
Easy as that
Use a rax or Brutix until u have better skills dude
Wrong, The Raven is one of the hardest tanked ships out there, along with the amarr ships, the problem being that the megathron does kinetic and thermal damage primarly and this (on a correctly setup raven) are the 2 strongest defences.
Now even if u manage to get in close with your blasterthron, u most likley sufferd thousands of hit points of damage before you got into your optimal ranges, and the mwd usage to get that far most likley cost a good portion of your cap.
Now all the raven pilot has to do is sit there watch this and choose the best torpedo for the job to finish you off.
BTW I Fly an Apoc but own a Raven and Megathron also. Skilpoints 13 mil so dont call me a noob
Good luck for a raven beating setup.
Med
yup, i have killed every type of BS's in the game solo whit my mega except the raven.
so pick your fights and stay away from the ravens unless the pilot is a rookie or short on skills
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Araviel
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Posted - 2004.12.08 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Medreena
Originally by: siim
Hey m8 if u cant punch through A Ravens shield or Apoc's armor !
Then u dont deserve a blasterthron m8.
Easy as that
Use a rax or Brutix until u have better skills dude
Wrong, The Raven is one of the hardest tanked ships out there, along with the amarr ships, the problem being that the megathron does kinetic and thermal damage primarly and this (on a correctly setup raven) are the 2 strongest defences.
Now even if u manage to get in close with your blasterthron, u most likley sufferd thousands of hit points of damage before you got into your optimal ranges, and the mwd usage to get that far most likley cost a good portion of your cap.
Now all the raven pilot has to do is sit there watch this and choose the best torpedo for the job to finish you off.
BTW I Fly an Apoc but own a Raven and Megathron also. Skilpoints 13 mil so dont call me a noob
Good luck for a raven beating setup.
Med
yup, i have killed every type of BS's in the game solo whit my mega except the raven.
so pick your fights and stay away from the ravens unless the pilot is a rookie or short on skills
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