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Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.05.22 09:48:00 - [61] Originally by: Musical Fist My sun didnt change :S and doesnt look like anyones here Which sun? (Type, system, color) Ps. Snypa. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Atticus Fynch	Posted - 2010.05.22 10:19:00 - [62] Originally by: Blane Xero Originally by: Musical Fist My sun didnt change :S and doesnt look like anyones here Which sun? (Type, system, color) Ps. Snypa. Well, my son changed. He now goes my Harriet and is always borrowing his mother's things.
Louis deGuerre Gallente Amicus Morte Shock an Awe	Posted - 2010.05.22 11:23:00 - [63] Just checked them out and it ain't so bad. Not as blobby as before, slightly less good looking. Not worth the rage tbh. Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenÆt built for this! Clear Skies - The Movie
Krimishkev Out of Order Cult of War	Posted - 2010.05.22 11:34:00 - [64] Can't believe I waited to post 3rd page in a thread full of truth. This is ridiculous CCP, you can SEE vertex SEAMS on the `solar flare` effect. HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE. I am guessing you are moving all your effects over to a new shader model. But, that doesnt mean you have to make them all look like utter poo in the process. Old Sun, best Sun. /endwhine
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.05.22 11:43:00 - [65] Originally by: Louis deGuerre Not as blobby as before, slightly less good looking. And therein lies the problem. Implementing "Less good" effects over and over is a very bad trend to make a habit of. And CCP seems to be making a habit of it. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Teinyhr Minmatar Nor'akho Matar	Posted - 2010.05.22 12:30:00 - [66] Give it a month and nobody cares/remembers what the suns looked like before. And Jesus, how can anyone like the formless gasblobs they are now?
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.05.22 12:35:00 - [67] Originally by: Teinyhr Give it a month and nobody cares/remembers what the suns looked like before. And Jesus, how can anyone like the formless gasblobs they are now? If you don't like them, leave the thread. You've stated your opinion and (barely) backed up your reasons for your opinion. People care. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Mara Rinn	Posted - 2010.05.22 13:05:00 - [68] I love how the stars are now geodesic domes, rather than spheres. I can see the edges of the texture planes. It really is quite sad =( System stars used to be my favourite place to chill out and watch the world go by. Now I'll just be getting cranky about the lack of effort that's gone into them. [Aussie players: join ANZAC channel]
I'thari Minmatar	Posted - 2010.05.22 13:20:00 - [69] Originally by: Teinyhr And Jesus, how can anyone like the formless gasblobs they are now? People like strangest things, like new "instaturn" animation, for example. Some even think that it's more realistic way to move for ship with only one(!) engine than slowly turning around. Even if we're to imagine that there are secondary engines on all ships - what's a point of main engine if secondary engines accelerate ship faster than main one? Still, people do like it and it's a great worakaround for animation team than scaling up turning animation speed with ship mass/agility. IMO, better to have good-looking formless gasblobs than bad-looking glowing glassballs.
Vakasho Umi	Posted - 2010.05.22 15:20:00 - [70] Just dropped on Sisi to check this out, warped to the sun, and found it quite mirthful to witness the dawn of a new age of Polyedric SunsÖ. Seriously, CCP, I hope this is only some "work in progress", and not the final version of an "improvement"...

Arec Bardwin	Posted - 2010.05.22 15:35:00 - [71] CCP had to change the old star graphics in preparation of the new star mining content.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.05.22 15:38:00 - [72] Originally by: Arec Bardwin CCP had to change the old star graphics in preparation of the new star mining content. Fused Helium Isotopes? Hmm... interesting ________________________ Let's build a superpower.
Fikreta	Posted - 2010.05.22 16:30:00 - [73] Edited by: Fikreta on 22/05/2010 16:31:05 Seriously, CCP improved warp travel, autocannon fire, nosferatu... and did excellent job with planets, hats down for that. We can discuss about the gate jump effect but it's more or less ok. Problems are: a) they started to use that same gate jump/wormhole animation for too many different things with barely noticeable variations which makes them all boring and repetitive; b) they ruined or just removed plenty of other cool effects like slingshot rays on acc. gates, engine trails, cyno, sensor boosters, web, scrams, blasters, railguns... now the stars as well.
elnukeo Minmatar The Blue Suns	Posted - 2010.05.22 17:45:00 - [74] Common CCP!! please make your game better!!! bring back the old cyno effect(possibly an even better one) keep our suns the way they are and fix the @$%$^ sound!!! make it realistic(sound from our own ship). Oh and engine trails are way cool! ---------------------------------------
Jacque Cruix	Posted - 2010.05.22 17:55:00 - [75] Originally by: elnukeo Common CCP!! please make your game better!!! bring back the old cyno effect(possibly an even better one) keep our suns the way they are and fix the @$%$^ sound!!! make it realistic(sound from our own ship). Oh and engine trails are way cool! I can agree with the cyno, the old sun looked like a giant space amoeba and needed to go, eve has sound?, and engine trails always sucked, good riddance.
Nicholas Barker Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.22 18:38:00 - [76] For nanofits, trails were good for making sure you were moving the way you thought you were at a glance. But don't really make any difference now. The new cyno jump effect is good, it shouldn't be used for jumping out through gates though. ------ 0800-LAG-A-NODE
HalogenWraith Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.22 18:42:00 - [77] Big white polyhedrons with copious amounts of flare and bloom, topped off with a scaled-up stasis webifier effect. There was a time when I enjoyed warping to stars and just spinning my ship in front of them, because they looked so nice. That time is clearly about to end. Now the stars seriously look like something you'd do for fun in 3DS Max or Maya in 30 minutes. Like, a high school 3D assignment. Bring the old one back.
Eternum Praetorian Method In Khaos	Posted - 2010.05.22 18:46:00 - [78] Originally by: Blane Xero Tranquility, Shuria star. Sisi, Shuria star. Bleh. And what do you think a star looks like? If anything they didn't change it enough. "The issue is" that they are attempting to graphically generate realism, the new version looks more real, it is just that it is lacking some textures. The old one looked "pretty" but it did not look like a star. So cry more
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.05.22 18:59:00 - [79] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 22/05/2010 18:47:42 Originally by: Blane Xero Tranquility, Shuria star. Sisi, Shuria star. Bleh. And what do you think a star looks like? If anything they didn't change it enough. "The issue is" that they are attempting to graphically generate realism, the new version looks more real, it is just that it is lacking some textures. The old one looked "pretty" but it did not look like a star. So cry more Is it really about realism? Have you recently seen a real warp effect? ------------------------------------------------ Please support my anti-macro mining proposal.
ls pos Amarr Legacy of Sorrow	Posted - 2010.05.22 18:59:00 - [80] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 22/05/2010 18:47:42 Originally by: Blane Xero Tranquility, Shuria star. Sisi, Shuria star. Bleh. And what do you think a star looks like? If anything they didn't change it enough. "The issue is" that they are attempting to graphically generate realism, the new version looks more real, it is just that it is lacking some textures. The old one looked "pretty" but it did not look like a star. So cry more Check out at what visual spectrum that pic has been made with.. Prolly infrared or x-ray.

Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.05.22 19:05:00 - [81] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 22/05/2010 18:47:42 Originally by: Blane Xero Tranquility, Shuria star. Sisi, Shuria star. Bleh. And what do you think a star looks like? If anything they didn't change it enough. "The issue is" that they are attempting to graphically generate realism, the new version looks more real, it is just that it is lacking some textures. The old one looked "pretty" but it did not look like a star. So cry more Because in a game where space has friction, realism is more important than not looking like utter crap. /sarcasm. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Jacque Cruix	Posted - 2010.05.22 19:09:00 - [82] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Is it really about realism? Have you recently seen a real warp effect? There is always room from artistic creativeness in those cases, but I think we have seen stars before. I will have to check to be sure though. Originally by: ls pos Check out at what visual spectrum that pic has been made with.. Prolly infrared or x-ray. Shouldn't be too hard for a camera drone.
Eternum Praetorian Method In Khaos	Posted - 2010.05.22 19:13:00 - [83] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Is it really about realism? Have you recently seen a real warp effect? By all means show me a vid of what a real warp effect looks like and I will stand corrected. And this is supposedly the sun in the visual spectrum It looks even less impressive. Also: Blane Xero: it is well known by now that EVE takes place in mineral oil, so yea cry more. Could you imagine how unplayable the game would be if anyone could sit on an AB or MWD and accelerate indefinitely? Graphical realism + artistic merit = a good game. Well duh?? And yea, cry more.
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.05.22 19:13:00 - [84] no comment from a dev as to why the stars where changed in the first place. don't recall it being in the Ideas and Features forum. ------------------------------------------------ Please support my anti-macro mining proposal.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.05.22 19:24:00 - [85] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian Graphical realism + artistic merit = a good game. Well duh?? Well now that's a misplaced blanket statement if I ever saw one. Graphics are not a "One size fits all" deal. There are times where (and I use the term grudgingly) "Realism" fits and times where it should take a back-seat. In my opinion, this is one of the latter times, which is why I drew my previous comparison, AKA the "Mineral Oil" thing. It was to show that sometimes Realism is not the order of the day. _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Novantco The Tuskers The Tusker Bastards	Posted - 2010.05.22 19:39:00 - [86] Just need to add some Persian Archers to the game and the "Sun" problem will no longer be an issue.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.05.22 21:56:00 - [87] Originally by: Eternum Praetorian And what do you think a star looks like? That's done with filters. ________________________ Let's build a superpower.
Snowmann	Posted - 2010.05.22 22:36:00 - [88] Originally by: Dan O'Connor Originally by: Eternum Praetorian And what do you think a star looks like? That's done with filters. You mean, like something a camera drone might do? To allow you to even be looking at a star in the first place? Or even blindingly bright laz0rs on the battlefield?
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.05.22 22:41:00 - [89] Originally by: Snowmann Originally by: Dan O'Connor Originally by: Eternum Praetorian And what do you think a star looks like? That's done with filters. You mean, like something a camera drone might do? To allow you to even be looking at a star in the first place? Or even blindingly bright laz0rs on the battlefield? Sure. Lets downgrade a perfectly good effect just so we can say "Oh yeah, the camera drones do that. mmhm" _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Snowmann	Posted - 2010.05.22 22:47:00 - [90] Originally by: Blane Xero Sure. Lets downgrade a perfectly good effect just so we can say "Oh yeah, the camera drones do that. mmhm" The new effect is a lot better than the old one, more realistic. But could use some more improvement if they have time.



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