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Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.05.22 22:49:00 - [91] Originally by: Snowmann Originally by: Dan O'Connor Originally by: Eternum Praetorian And what do you think a star looks like? That's done with filters. You mean, like something a camera drone might do? To allow you to even be looking at a star in the first place? Or even blindingly bright laz0rs on the battlefield? Not sure what this reply has to do with Hubble filters. ________________________ Let's build a superpower.
Blane Xero Amarr The Firestorm Cartel	Posted - 2010.05.22 22:49:00 - [92] Edited by: Blane Xero on 22/05/2010 22:50:05 Originally by: Snowmann Originally by: Blane Xero Sure. Lets downgrade a perfectly good effect just so we can say "Oh yeah, the camera drones do that. mmhm" The new effect is a lot better than the old one, more realistic. And yet you're having to default back to Camera Drones to justify how something becomes "Realistic" Bah, Dan snyped :( _____________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008 Originally by: CCP Fallout Been there. Done that. Need antibiotics.
Fikreta	Posted - 2010.05.22 22:53:00 - [93] Originally by: Snowmann You mean, like something a camera drone might do? To allow you to even be looking at a star in the first place? Or even blindingly bright laz0rs on the battlefield? In real space you wouldn't see laz0rz unless they are pointed right into your eyes. EVE has nothing to do with realism so please stop trying to find "realistic" reasons for what they did with stars.
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2010.05.22 22:54:00 - [94] Edited by: Joe Skellington on 22/05/2010 22:54:55 Originally by: Blane Xero Tranquility, Shuria star. Sisi, Shuria star. Bleh. It should make you take thermal damage if you warp to the sun.
Sellmewarez	Posted - 2010.05.22 22:57:00 - [95] Have you never heard to not look directly into the sun I can't even see the sun on TQ right now the light from it is so blinding. And really how often do you fly to the sun?! To me it just looks like a bunch of whining soley because someone changed something. Chalk me up as a supporter. +rep CCP P.S Bring back the old cyno effects or at least have the option for it kthnx.
I SoStoned Caldari	Posted - 2010.05.22 23:00:00 - [96] Burning discoballs... they look like marbles. That tightly defined sphere is just fuuuuuuuugly. --- Dreamer: My dream, Freddy! MY RULES. Freddy Kruger: groans Awwwww, f**k. --- Never give up!
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2010.05.22 23:06:00 - [97] Blinded by the light
Fikreta	Posted - 2010.05.22 23:10:00 - [98] Originally by: Sellmewarez I can't even see the sun on TQ right now the light from it is so blinding. Of course, it's the star. It is expected to work like that. Heck this new star might even work only if they didn't have to put that overused boring ripple effect again. Also adding few animated flares here and there wouldn't hurt. But after all, I still don't understand why they had to waste time to fix something that wasn't broken in first place, instead of working on cyno, sensor booster etc. So many problems in the graphics department and yet they decided to work on something no one has complained about.
Snowmann	Posted - 2010.05.22 23:11:00 - [99] Originally by: Fikreta ...EVE has nothing to do with realism so please stop trying to find "realistic" reasons for what they did with stars. Yes, because the recent changes to the plantary graphics and postions had nothing to do with reaslism. I'm sure this isn't that last change people won't be happy with, but I do think people are making a "moutain" out of a "molehill" here.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.05.22 23:18:00 - [100] Originally by: Snowmann Yes, because the recent changes to the plantary graphics and postions had nothing to do with reaslism. I'm not sure where you get your information and/or data from - but locations of planets have not changed at all, neither are they going to. ________________________ Let's build a superpower.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.05.22 23:22:00 - [101] Well, they need to remove the seam in the corona, add more polygons to the ball, because I can see the corners of the dodecahedron, add solar flares and review the sizes (350k km diameter red giant for example). Stars definitely need more awesome. --------
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.05.22 23:34:00 - [102] Originally by: Dan O'Connor Originally by: Snowmann Yes, because the recent changes to the plantary graphics and postions had nothing to do with reaslism. I'm not sure where you get your information and/or data from - but locations of planets have not changed at all, neither are they going to. No, but the types of planets at certain distances from the sun, and the stats for most planets will change in the patch to be more realistic. To me, what it boils down to is the new methods they are using graphically and what is affected. If the new shader does great with planets, moons, and ships but not quite as well with suns, I can live with that. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.05.22 23:36:00 - [103] Originally by: Ranger 1 Originally by: Dan O'Connor Originally by: Snowmann Yes, because the recent changes to the plantary graphics and postions had nothing to do with reaslism. I'm not sure where you get your information and/or data from - but locations of planets have not changed at all, neither are they going to. No, but the types of planets at certain distances from the sun, and the stats for most planets will change in the patch to be more realistic. Yes - but it sounded as if he implied that locations also changed. ________________________ Let's build a superpower.
Snowmann	Posted - 2010.05.22 23:37:00 - [104] Originally by: Dan O'Connor I'm not sure where you get your information and/or data from - but locations of planets have not changed at all, neither are they going to. "Postions" as to what type is at what orbit, among other things. Originally by: CCP Incognito Edited by: CCP Incognito on 12/05/2010 15:01:49 Yes we have been working with a Astro Physicist to produce planet types that are more realistic to there orbits and their star systems. Changing planet radius has a game play impact on existing player items so we tried to avoid that at all costs.... ...Given that there was still 150 odd planets that we had to change radius on, but that is not bad give there is 67k+ planets in eve... Link to orginal post.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.05.22 23:40:00 - [105] Edited by: Ranger 1 on 22/05/2010 23:41:52 Originally by: Dan O'Connor Originally by: Ranger 1 Originally by: Dan O'Connor Originally by: Snowmann Yes, because the recent changes to the plantary graphics and postions had nothing to do with reaslism. I'm not sure where you get your information and/or data from - but locations of planets have not changed at all, neither are they going to. No, but the types of planets at certain distances from the sun, and the stats for most planets will change in the patch to be more realistic. Yes - but it sounded as if he implied that locations also changed. I know, but kinda yes. Ice planets, for instance, won't be closest to the sun anymore. They will either change it to something more appropriate or swap it with a planet near the edge of the system. So not really moving their positions, just making what is in those positions the appropriate type. Edit: Except apparently for the 150 they DID move. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Snowmann	Posted - 2010.05.22 23:44:00 - [106] Edited by: Snowmann on 22/05/2010 23:47:08 Edited by: Snowmann on 22/05/2010 23:44:50 Originally by: Ranger 1 Except apparently for the 150 they DID move. Only changed radius of planet (not radius of orbit), they didn't physcially move, since that would play hell with moons and POSes.
Captain Mastiff	Posted - 2010.05.23 00:41:00 - [107] Originally by: Fikreta Originally by: Snowmann You mean, like something a camera drone might do? To allow you to even be looking at a star in the first place? Or even blindingly bright laz0rs on the battlefield? In real space you wouldn't see laz0rz unless they are pointed right into your eyes. EVE has nothing to do with realism so please stop trying to find "realistic" reasons for what they did with stars. Haha, fantastic! I didn't think of that one. Completely true though, I believe its due to the Rayleigh scattering effect we can see laser pen beams. In space there is no dust particles. Very valid point... So.... Eternum P, you will also note that that image albeit using filters is spherical not the hexagonal shape stars now look like on Sisi.
Captain Sonic R E D E M P T I O N Black Star Alliance	Posted - 2010.05.23 01:40:00 - [108] Ehrm am i the only one that has noticed taht looking at the sun on an unpolarized screen would not only burn your eyes out but also couse serius skin condisions i dont know how the "cameradrone" (tm) works but i find it hard to belive it polarizes the sun and the sun only the fact is that when we warp to the sun we shouldnt see nothing at all, maby the slight shadow of our ship bot not even that cuz light can act as waves enveloping the ship. without polarisation your wehole 360¦ view would be white, WITH polarisation you would be able to view the sun and its flairs but everything else would be black so thats for the RL sun arguments in this thread however as my comment on the new sun grp. i WOULD like it if the poly-edges were fixed and flares added instead of the "gravitational disortion"
LordSwift Caldari Amigo Innovations	Posted - 2010.05.23 02:21:00 - [109] Originally by: Captain Sonic Ehrm am i the only one that has noticed taht looking at the sun on an unpolarized screen would not only burn your eyes out but also couse serius skin condisions i dont know how the "cameradrone" (tm) works but i find it hard to belive it polarizes the sun and the sun only the fact is that when we warp to the sun we shouldnt see nothing at all, maby the slight shadow of our ship bot not even that cuz light can act as waves enveloping the ship. without polarisation your wehole 360¦ view would be white, WITH polarisation you would be able to view the sun and its flairs but everything else would be black so thats for the RL sun arguments in this thread however as my comment on the new sun grp. i WOULD like it if the poly-edges were fixed and flares added instead of the "gravitational disortion" Considering what we see from Camera Drones is a signal into our brains. i dont think what we see really matters since we cant go blind from it. We not using our eyes.
cBOLTSON Caldari Shadow Legion. Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.05.23 02:27:00 - [110] What the ** seriously. I read that they were changing the suns and I too figured they would be more realistic looking, in line with how the planets changed. After looking at the links they look ing ** (Very bad). CCP why do you make such a good game with even more potential, and then mess it up so drastically? Are you crazy?
Eternum Praetorian Method In Khaos	Posted - 2010.05.23 02:45:00 - [111] Edited by: Eternum Praetorian on 23/05/2010 02:48:56 But I think the important thing is . . . Cry more And Here Is An Entire Youtube Vid On The Sun If you really want to make a big deal out of it, watch the vid and then observe how CCP's new stars are on the right track, they are just a bit featureless. Oh yea... and cry more.
BoBoZoBo Foundation Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.05.23 03:33:00 - [112] I cannot imagine this is final :( ========================= Minister of Propaganda - Operator 9
Siiee Recycled Heroes	Posted - 2010.05.23 07:29:00 - [113] Maybe this is what they mean by "Corifying" more of Eve, they're replacing all the useless redundant effects with one master effect that can be applied straight to anything! I can't wait 'till they fix ship explosions
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.05.23 07:35:00 - [114] Originally by: Siiee Maybe this is what they mean by "Corifying" more of Eve, they're replacing all the useless redundant effects with one master effect that can be applied straight to anything! I can't wait 'till they fix ship explosions Preview of things to come. ------------------------------------------------ Please support my anti-macro mining proposal.
Nina Treml	Posted - 2010.05.23 07:48:00 - [115] oohh come on, this cannot be real. trail effect first, then blasters, then cyno, now the sun!! wtf, why ccp? say something ffs!!
Fikreta	Posted - 2010.05.23 07:49:00 - [116] Originally by: Captain Sonic i WOULD like it if the poly-edges were fixed and flares added instead of the "gravitational disortion" Yeah and for those "but it's realistic!" people... single stars, no matter how big, are not even remotely massive enough to cause gravitational lensing - if it was what CCP wanted to show with that ripple effect: http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/news/grav_lens.html
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.05.23 09:33:00 - [117] Originally by: Fikreta Originally by: Captain Sonic i WOULD like it if the poly-edges were fixed and flares added instead of the "gravitational disortion" Yeah and for those "but it's realistic!" people... single stars, no matter how big, are not even remotely massive enough to cause gravitational lensing - if it was what CCP wanted to show with that ripple effect: http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/news/grav_lens.html The ripple effect is supposed to be the corona, I think. For that, it's not too bad (except the seem at 3:30) but a corona alone doesn't make a star, it needs flares to be a burning ball of fusing plasma. Only stars without flares would be white dwarves and such. --------
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.05.23 09:58:00 - [118] Edited by: Dan O''Connor on 23/05/2010 09:59:33 While all in all it might not be very cool looking and all, but it seems to be lighter on my graphic card. The fan doesn't run like crazy as it does now when I go to a star. And I have a pretty decent graphic card (NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+ with 512 RAM I think) WARPY CORONA EDIT I'm not saying I like the effect, just a performance thing I noticed ________________________ Let's build a superpower.
Kiva Aharan	Posted - 2010.05.23 11:51:00 - [119] Originally by: Solra Wolfe Play EVE on a 40" or larger HD tv.. then sit outside Jita IV IV and watch the ships undock.. first time I got the Holy F-U-C-K that's big feeling.. looks at the TV Hmmm...I don't know if I could cope with that much cool in one place. I'd never leave the couch.
Alexandra Knight Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2010.05.23 13:30:00 - [120] New effect is crap. I cried.

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