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SomebodyKickedMyDog
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.05.23 23:22:00 -
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ZOMG SOMEONE CRITICIZED EVE!!! ATTACK!!!
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baltec1
Antares Shipyards Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.05.23 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: SomebodyKickedMyDog ZOMG SOMEONE CRITICIZED EVE!!! ATTACK!!!
Very well.
Dear OP, grow a spine.
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Dramund
Sodom Eye Systems
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Posted - 2010.05.23 23:27:00 -
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Only with an MMORPG can you play for 3 years, quit, and then conclude that there is something horribly wrong with the game. You know, Counterstrike was so fun, I played for 6 months!
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Admiral Pelleon
White Shadow Imperium
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Posted - 2010.05.23 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: SomebodyKickedMyDog ZOMG SOMEONE CRITICIZED EVE!!! ATTACK!!!
Post with your main.
Amidoinitrite? ________ Chicago players channel: 'Windy City'
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Teinyhr
Minmatar Nor'akho Matar
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Posted - 2010.05.23 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: SomebodyKickedMyDog ZOMG SOMEONE CRITICIZED EVE!!! ATTACK!!!
Oi, regular subscribers critisize EVE all the time. It's just that if you say you want to make it easier for new players not to get surprise sexed by pirates everytime they leave a 0.5 system, or something of the kind that would make EVE more enjoyable to play, well, EVE is not supposed to be fun. Except for the school bullies that never grew up.
Or so they say.
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JASON W0RTHING
Nomad LLP Wayfarer Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2010.05.24 00:45:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Shadow What is thy bidd -- Wait. This thread, I have an irresistible urge to lock it for "being related to neither crime nor punishment."
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lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
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Posted - 2010.05.24 04:31:00 -
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tl;dr : Whiny OP, 2 pages of 'LOL cya can I haz ur stuffs'. Followed by 2 pages of trolls with the carebear stance
9/10 would read again
Originally by: salva dore Cloak should not be AFK solution. What do you think?
Originally by: AFK Cloaker
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Cy Bear
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Posted - 2010.05.24 04:51:00 -
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1.) Player 1 - 2 accounts 'EVE is a huge time sink, and I just don't have time to play.' ^average Joe 2.) Player 2 - 3 accounts ^whiny carebear 3.) Player 3 - 3 accounts ^bitter vet 4.) Mine - 4 accounts ^whiny carebear 5.) Player 5 - 6 accounts ^whiny carebear
Buisness as usual it seems, players 1 and 3 might come back yet and nobody cares about whiny carebears coming and leaving |
Digital Solaris
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Posted - 2010.05.24 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Veloran You keep trying to argue against a game that has 3 million ACTUAL players versus one with 40,000 (or 20,000 with 2 accounts each). Intelligent.
No one is really going bother to argue with you, people are simply pointing out the flaws with your argument and they leave it at that. Come back when you got something substantial to add to the "EVE vs. WoW" debate. |
SirRalph
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Posted - 2010.05.24 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Brusanan Edited by: Brusanan on 23/05/2010 10:32:41
Originally by: Veloran My point is these people are playing a game, and obviously don't consider it a waste of time. And they would play EVE if it were worth it to them. I want CCP to know why they don't in hopes of CCP making changes so they have something they want to play and come back.
They quit Eve because it is not their kind of game. Why would CCP ruin their game for those who do enjoy it just to satisfy a bunch of ***gots who wish it were WoW?
QFT
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2010.05.24 08:50:00 -
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Plant flag for PvP!
Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav!
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robbyx
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Posted - 2010.05.24 08:55:00 -
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Ive actually introduced a fair number of people to EVE...they have all quit except one....one of my mates summed it up.."eve looks like a Ferrari, but drives like a bus, with a wheel missing, no brakes and a stinky old drunk on the backseat hurling abuse at anyone else who dares to get on".
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Glarealot
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Posted - 2010.05.24 09:21:00 -
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Edited by: Glarealot on 24/05/2010 09:23:22 Yea the OP pretty much listed a large group of folks who picked the wrong game. Except player number 1, who picked the wrong genre. MMOs are time sinks.
I actually play both WoW and EVE together (bounce back and forth between them). I love how people compare them and try to make it out like one is inherently better than the other (it's like comparing chocolate to meat. Sure, you eat em both but is there really a basis beyond that for comparison?)
WoW is mostly a PvE game. The PvP is more of a tournament style time killer and a way to compare equipment. PvP in WoW offers the less fulfillment than shooting at someone with an empty watergun- the possibility for loss/frustration exists, but there simply is none. Unless you are on a pvp server and get camped for a couple hours... THEN there is frustration). The main attraction for WoW is the instances and story. EVE's main attraction is PvP and a dynamic world (as opposed to WoW's completely static and linear world). There is NO basis for comparison.
The players are about the same maturity level. In WoW the older players are usually the "hardcore raiders" you hear about, while the kiddies are running around IF/Barrens trolling chat. In EVE the older players are out in 0.0 waging wars, being in alliances, etc or mining somewhere while the kiddies are suicide ganking in highsec and trolling forums with "I PVP! YOUR TEARS SUSTAIN ME!!!1!!11"
As for the playerbase size, this is something I mention to folks when speaking of EVE and WoW often. I would prefer EVE's playerbase size over WoW, simply because of the server set up. Even though WoW has 11,000,000+ players, each server has a maximum of 20,000. If your particular side has more than 4,000 logged in, you get queued up. (check WoW census for the numbers. Plenty of websites offer the stats). EVE has 10,000x LESS players but instead the server will have between 4-10x more players logged on at once to interact with.
So in the end, 11,000,000 players playing WoW is a pointless number- as far as you (an individual player) are concerned, there are 20,000 at most.
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Llilit
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Posted - 2010.05.24 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: robbyx Ive actually introduced a fair number of people to EVE...they have all quit except one....one of my mates summed it up.."eve looks like a Ferrari, but drives like a bus, with a wheel missing, no brakes and a stinky old drunk on the backseat hurling abuse at anyone else who dares to get on".
Yea, me too. I brought EvE to loads of people. They played for a while but then they got parole and left. |
Jo Ka
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Posted - 2010.05.24 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Pelleon
Originally by: SomebodyKickedMyDog ZOMG SOMEONE CRITICIZED EVE!!! ATTACK!!!
Post with your main.
Amidoinitrite?
Actually posting with your main on a forums can be rather foolish. This character for instance is a forum character only. Some people take disagreements into the game and it really is not worth the hassle unless you like hassle of course.
And those that say that's cowardly are only using a kids argument. It just common sense if you want to keep forum activities to the forum then don't use your main to post.
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Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.05.24 11:33:00 -
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OP has attempted to either a) prove that eve is no good, 2) troll in the "X is inferior prove me wrong" style or D) both of the above. i'm still enjoying eve after 10 months thanks to, not in spite of, the reasons he has tired after years. Think about that. Troll scores 3.5/10
ps: i'm a grownup, never played any other mmo, regularly considered quitting due to collosal complexity at first, then later ship loss/ego sting. The point about addiction is valid, but isn't full-blown until you don't enjoy it at all but are compelled to log on by something else. That's when you drop it and send me your stuff.
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Amras Arnatuile
Trojan Trolls Controlled Chaos
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Posted - 2010.05.24 11:47:00 -
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ZOMG!!! DON'T VIOLENCE MY SHINY PIXEL SHIP BRAW!!! EPIX ZERO LOSS RESPAWN CAN I HAZ????
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.05.24 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Amras Arnatuile ZOMG!!! DON'T VIOLENCE MY SHINY PIXEL SHIP BRAW!!! EPIX ZERO LOSS RESPAWN CAN I HAZ????
You're still making too much sense, and it's far too accurately spelled.
B- ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Zora'e
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.05.24 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Glarealot (it's like comparing chocolate to meat. Sure, you eat em both but is there really a basis beyond that for comparison?)
Yes there is. Chocolate is so much sweeter than meat. It also keeps my wife happier when she is having 'those days' whereas meat does not.
Given a choice between chocolate and a happy wife. Or meat and a surly wife. I'm going to take chocolate any day.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.05.24 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Zora'e Given a choice between chocolate and a happy wife. Or meat and a surly wife. I'm going to take chocolate any day.
Maybe you're using the wrong kind of "meat"?
àsorry, I had toà ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
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Zora'e
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.05.24 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Zora'e Given a choice between chocolate and a happy wife. Or meat and a surly wife. I'm going to take chocolate any day.
Maybe you're using the wrong kind of "meat"?
àsorry, I had toà
lol... you owe me a new keyboard if mine shorts out from spitting coffee all over it. Read "those days" as "that time of the month".
When she is having 'those days' I keep my meat to myself.
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Aregnal
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Posted - 2010.05.24 12:01:00 -
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I agree with this post from Veloran. When i was playing eve, i wasnt actually playing eve but N+(jump jump minigame), or doing something else , because it comes to just set autopilot(in high security) and watch your scrap of metal get through 50 gates.Also, everything is already decided for you, you cant hasten the progress anyhow , just if you train learning skills at start, that is also another thing why it is boring as hell, and without better skills, what can you do?You can just wait and wait.If you want to hasten it a bit, you have to train learning skills, which would take actually 3 years to master, good challenge for everyone!You dont even have to log in the game to progress, and worst of all, you can buy isk for real money (concord pilot license extension).And trailers ? They look cool i can bow before ccp for trailers but look at this new trailer about dominion, well, dominion is an industrial datadisk, and in trailer? There is battle,yes, BATTLE, just 5 seconds of trailer are about current datadisk content.Also people got surprised when they reach 1.6 mil skill points, skill training time doubled, wtf?Fun in this game is concentrated in huge time line and that is why some people cant feel it,ccp could improve this game alot if they want.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.05.24 12:02:00 -
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Originally by: Zora'e lol... you owe me a new keyboard if mine shorts out from spitting coffee all over it. Read "those days" as "that time of the month".
When she is having 'those days' I keep my meat to myself.
Yes, I know, but it was just too tempting a pun to let it slip. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.24 12:23:00 -
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I see everything that had to be said already has been - good day to you OP!
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Myrkala
Minmatar Interstellar Empire Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2010.05.24 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz I see everything that had to be said already has been - good day to you OP!
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Thanks CCP, I knew you had it in you! <3 Long live Naglfar! |
Anslo
Disciples of Night DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.05.24 15:55:00 -
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This is another reason people leave Eve. It's a**hats and elitist d***s like you all that force their "nub sauce gtfo lololol" rhetoric down their throat, making the player feel worthless and forcing them out. For God's sake, we could USE some new blood in here but you morons chase them out! As a company, CCP WANTS to bring new people in because, as any other company, they want to make MONEY. But with you all acting like this, it's any wonder they've kept this many subscriptions this long.
OP, I agree with you, and I feel your points are valid. I'm sure CCP knows about these issues, but they're a bit busy with three major releases coming up (PI, Incarna, DUST). I'm sure these issues will be addressed, as will easy griefing and interference with other player's game play experience.
And to those who're in here just taking the p***, DIAF.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.05.24 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Anslo
And to those who're in here just taking the p***, DIAF.
HTFU
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2010.05.24 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Anslo For God's sake, we could USE some new blood in here but you morons chase them out! As a company, CCP WANTS to bring new people in because, as any other company, they want to make MONEY. But with you all acting like this, it's any wonder they've kept this many subscriptions this long.
Quite the opposite: we are getting new blood, and they are staying ù unlike most other formulaic games ù exactly because the game is not the same-old-same-old the OP describes. It's something different, and that's what makes people stay. Make it like everything else and it can be replaced with the newest same-old on the market in an instant.
Quote: I'm sure these issues will be addressed, as will easy griefing and interference with other player's game play experience.
Unlikely, since that wouldn't be the game people want to play. Oh, and griefing people in EVE gets you banned, so easy or not, it's not something you see a lot of in the game. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki |
Spaceman Jack
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Posted - 2010.05.24 16:35:00 -
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All I see are subjective reasons.
How is CCP supposed to rectify peoples priorities on how they spend time. All games are time-sink - what the point?
And multple toons LOL - I have had only ONE account and TOON for 7 years. Not bored at all or anywhere close to it. People who get multiple toos do so bacause it is thier choice.
If you are paying for 4 accounts ($ or PLEX) for a game you dont like so much, the problem is not with CCP, its with your decision making process and priorities.
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.05.24 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Agent Unknown on 24/05/2010 16:40:31 I think a lot of people forget that EVE is a "niche" game for people that enjoy what it has to offer. I personally enjoy the concept of risk/reward, and the lack of "safe zones" outside of the starting systems is how it should be. This isn't WoW in space where you can "decide" if you want to be attacked. Learn from your mistakes and don't make the same mistake again.
Get suicide ganked in an hauler? Don't carry as much or avoid pipe systems. What about a Hulk? Move to a less populated system. Afraid to go to low-sec? So what? Let people play how they want to play.
I've seen plenty of threads with people wanting to nerf high-sec in order to boost low-sec populations, but that won't work, period. People play the game how they want to play (it is a sandbox after all), and no one has the right to dictate to them "this is how I want YOU to play the game". This thread is not exactly a whine about high-sec versus low-sec, but I'm getting that vibe from it. By the way, this is my signature.
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