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Andrea Skye Caldari The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.02 02:34:00 - [1] So everyone in Europe is paying 15euros while everyone in america is paying $15. Convert both these to pounds sterling (where I live, UK) and its ú12,50 (ish) for euro people and ú10 for US people. Why is this so? Do I have to move to get my american friends to buy me gametime and then buy it off them or what?
Wu Jiaqiu Minmatar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2010.06.02 02:35:00 - [2] Because CCP, like any other company; wants to make money.
Kephael Caldari SERENDIPITY INC R-I-P	Posted - 2010.06.02 02:45:00 - [3] All games are like this, everything is relative. __________________________________________
Olleybear I R' Carebear	Posted - 2010.06.02 02:46:00 - [4] Well, dont you worry about that. With the direction the Euro is heading, it may very well be worth less than the American Dollar in a few more months. Then you can thank CCP for letting you pay less than those in the USA. <<< Just because your pet likes you, that does not mean you are a good person. >>>
plastastic	Posted - 2010.06.02 02:50:00 - [5] Something about VAT if i remember right
Musical Fist Gallente The Unknown Bar and Pub Elysium Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.02 02:56:00 - [6] Becuase Europe is better than USA? -- Emo TraderJohn's Number 1 Fan!!
Kephael Caldari SERENDIPITY INC R-I-P	Posted - 2010.06.02 03:07:00 - [7] Originally by: Musical Fist Becuase Europe is better than USA? Half of Europe is more broke than the USA, maybe CCP is trying to speed up the process. __________________________________________
Andrea Skye Caldari The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.06.02 03:10:00 - [8] well in WoW (lol) the prices when converted to ú are nearly exactly the same. It cant just be sheer greed, there must be a real reason to why we have to pay more than Us people.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.06.02 03:20:00 - [9] Because the Euro's value changes so much they can't be bothered to keep adjusting it. They probably set that amount one day when it had parity with the US dollar, tried to keep track of it as it danced around for awhile, then just said "You know what? **** you Euro". My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Libin Herobi	Posted - 2010.06.02 03:50:00 - [10] Originally by: Professor Tarantula Because the Euro's value changes so much they can't be bothered to keep adjusting it. They probably set that amount one day when it had parity with the US dollar, tried to keep track of it as it danced around for awhile, then just said "You know what? **** you Euro". LOLWUT? This is a simple "You pay 14.99 per month, whether that's Euros or Dollars for you". But Apple does the same, so it must be soooooooo cool...
Psionist	Posted - 2010.06.02 03:52:00 - [11] Originally by: Libin Herobi Originally by: Professor Tarantula Because the Euro's value changes so much they can't be bothered to keep adjusting it. They probably set that amount one day when it had parity with the US dollar, tried to keep track of it as it danced around for awhile, then just said "You know what? **** you Euro". LOLWUT? This is a simple "You pay 14.99 per month, whether that's Euros or Dollars for you". But Apple does the same, so it must be soooooooo cool... Steam does this too. Nothing new here.
Jaedar Metron Void Angels Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.06.02 04:08:00 - [12] When I started playing Eve everyone paid USD. CCP changed it somewhere down the line, something about Euro rules... Steam too, changed to Euro. But Steam's prices are regulated by the developers who care, so that can't really be compared. So, I guess, CCP doesn't care? :P
SetrakDark Northstar Cabal OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.02 04:35:00 - [13] Because filthy eurps are willing to pay more. For your own and everyone else's good, dispense with your kindergarten-inculcated notions of equity and join us in the modern age of complex collective action. /end thread
Arec Bardwin	Posted - 2010.06.02 04:43:00 - [14] At least give us europeans a VIP account to compensate.
Pikkuhukka Caldari Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2010.06.02 05:06:00 - [15] i was certain the topic was why europeans play more than americans and i was already ready to post : cause europeans are less ******ed but yes would be nice to know why we have to pay alot more, okay not alot but still, jealosy !1
Boma Airaken Harlock's Vindicta Aggressive Dissonance	Posted - 2010.06.02 05:15:00 - [16] If I recall correctly it has something to do with vile obnoxious socialism and the effect it has on taxation.
Estel Arador	Posted - 2010.06.02 05:32:00 - [17] Be patient, at the current rate it'll be just a short while before the Euro drops below the USD Free jumpclone service\|1092 stations!
Niccolado Starwalker Gallente Shadow Templars	Posted - 2010.06.02 06:08:00 - [18] Originally by: Kephael Originally by: Musical Fist Becuase Europe is better than USA? Half of Europe is more broke than the USA, maybe CCP is trying to speed up the process. Can you say Norway? Originally by: Dianabolic Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL.
Lykouleon	Posted - 2010.06.02 06:26:00 - [19] Its not like anyone of value lives in Europe anyway Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
Sisohiv	Posted - 2010.06.02 06:48:00 - [20] I buy Visa Gift cards. It means I need to flip my CC number every month but I dont care. It isnt my billing computer.
dexington	Posted - 2010.06.02 07:12:00 - [21] Originally by: Boma Airaken If I recall correctly it has something to do with vile obnoxious socialism and the effect it has on taxation. ' So you are saying socialism and taxation dictate what currency we can use to pay our subscription? This has to do with socialism and taxation is all about the superiority of europe, we are just better then the rest of the world. The founders of EVE are just player haters, face it they love the game but hate the players. And the europeans are the best players, we keep doing the dirty spidermonkey on the girlfriends and wives of the developers, and they do really hate us. Why do you think Eyjafjallajokul is erupting?, it's all the build up sexual frustration of the EVE developer team... I hope this makes as much sense as 'obnoxious socialism and the effect it has on taxation' in relation to EVE.
Doddy The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.02 07:49:00 - [22] Originally by: Kephael Originally by: Musical Fist Becuase Europe is better than USA? Half of Europe is more broke than the USA, maybe CCP is trying to speed up the process. To be honest there are not many places more broke than the U.S, its just the U.S hasn't realised how broke it is. Anyway in comparisson to how uk gamers used to be ripped of over here (direct $-ú price conversion) this is small fry.
Cheap Dude	Posted - 2010.06.02 08:04:00 - [23] Everybody can pay in dollars.. just buy GTC's from a shop who sells them in dollars.. I buy mine from a shop with "crystals" :P
Gavjack Bunk	Posted - 2010.06.02 08:45:00 - [24] I call it the "Not Having To Salute The Flag Tax".
Vitamin B12	Posted - 2010.06.02 08:50:00 - [25] just buy a GTC in the common shops. last values i remember: 60 Day GTC 34$ -> 27Ç --- Corporations for Highsec pos anchoring. Only a fee of 75 Million ISK. click
Dan O'Connor Cerberus Network Dignitas.	Posted - 2010.06.02 08:55:00 - [26] Originally by: Andrea Skye Edited by: Andrea Skye on 02/06/2010 03:13:00 So everyone in Europe is paying 15euros while everyone in america is paying $15. Convert both these to pounds sterling (where I live, UK) and its ú12,50 (ish) for euro people and ú10 for US people. Why is this so? Do I have to move or get my american friends to buy me gametime and then buy it off them or what? CCP and all the other companies in the business pretty much follow the same pattern... Apple also is no different. In some instances there are noticable price differences on products in Europe and US. Funny thing, this economy. Apply \| Sigs
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2010.06.02 09:16:00 - [27] Originally by: Gavjack Bunk I call it the "Not Having To Salute The Flag Tax". - DesuSigs - Now with ThreadAssignÖ and SigSelectÖ
Cipher7 Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.06.02 09:24:00 - [28] Europe's high taxes create a "perceived value" of the Euro which is much less than it's actually worth. If you pay $1 for bread, $15/month seems reasonable If you pay $4 for bread, $60/month seems reasonable. Let's face it. Ppl who pay %55 taxes are already used to feeling violated. They're desensitized to being ripped off. So companies join in ripping them off further by charging them more. -D
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2010.06.02 09:31:00 - [29] Originally by: Kephael Originally by: Musical Fist Becuase Europe is better than USA? Half of Europe is more broke than the USA, maybe CCP is trying to speed up the process. Then again the broke people of Europe can afford a computer and to be on the internet, while the broke people of the US have 5 jobs and/or live in a box and has no internet access. Delenda est achura.
Hemp Invader GK inc. Panda Team	Posted - 2010.06.02 09:31:00 - [30] Edited by: Hemp Invader on 02/06/2010 09:31:36 When i created a thread just like this, about a year ago, when the US/Euro rate was 1.4305 i got flamed. Ever since i stoped paying with euros, but i have friends in the states.
FarmerCounter	Posted - 2010.06.02 09:36:00 - [31] Originally by: Vitamin B12 just buy a GTC in the common shops. last values i remember: 60 Day GTC 34$ -> 27Ç Exactly
dexington	Posted - 2010.06.02 09:52:00 - [32] Originally by: Dan O'Connor Funny thing, this economy. How dare you suggest what the US and EU don't share the same economy, and as a result of this prices on services and good are different on the two continents! You don't seem to understand that prices on services and goods are the same in every country in europe... hmmmm.... maybe you are on to something here... Funny thing, this economy.
Neesa Corrinne Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.06.02 10:10:00 - [33] If you're really whining about an amount of money that tiny, then you probably shouldn't be playing EVE anyhow.
Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2010.06.02 10:13:00 - [34] You lost the war, buddy! It's time to move on. Originally by: a51 duke1406 The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
Gunnanmon Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.02 10:16:00 - [35] Please post a new thread on this topic at least once an hour. Thanks in advance. Signature locked for discussing moderation. Navigator
Libin Herobi	Posted - 2010.06.02 10:20:00 - [36] Originally by: Neesa Corrinne If you're really whining about an amount of money that tiny, then you probably shouldn't be playing EVE anyhow. We're talking about over 20% more (google says 1 USD = 0.81 EUR today; 1/0.81 = 1.23) I'm sure you would pay billions for an implant that gave 20% to DPS. So don't say it's tiny.
Hemp Invader GK inc. Panda Team	Posted - 2010.06.02 10:28:00 - [37] Originally by: Neesa Corrinne If you're really whining about an amount of money that tiny, then you probably shouldn't be playing EVE anyhow. Then you sir, stay away from stock exchange, forex markets, trading, all the places that make a lot of money, because every cent counts :)
David Grogan Gallente	Posted - 2010.06.02 11:09:00 - [38] Edited by: David Grogan on 02/06/2010 11:09:36 Originally by: Andrea Skye Edited by: Andrea Skye on 02/06/2010 03:13:00 So everyone in Europe is paying 15euros while everyone in america is paying $15. Convert both these to pounds sterling (where I live, UK) and its ú12,50 (ish) for euro people and ú10 for US people. Why is this so? Do I have to move or get my american friends to buy me gametime and then buy it off them or what? buy your game time from here ---> Shattered Crystal here u pay american prices while living in eu :) they even email u the code within 30 mins. SIG: if my message has spelling errors its cos i fail at typing properly :P
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.06.02 11:11:00 - [39] On the "bleh" side, the EUR is already worth under 1.255 USD, so CCP actually makes LESS money from an EU customer (25.5% VAT). On the "oshi-" side, the EUR might go BELOW 1.00 USD in the not so distant future thanks to the FUBAR situation of Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal (or something like that) and the possibility of Germany and/of France pulling out. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
ShadowMaiden Amarr Divine Radiance	Posted - 2010.06.02 11:28:00 - [40] EVE is a universe where everyone has guns and wants everyone else's money. The centre is crawling with police. Surrounding the centre is an area where the police are afraid to leave major travel routes because it is crawling with extremely violent gangs. On the outskirts (0.0), we have exclusive clans trying to build picket fences around their homes. Insurance fraud is common. So you see, Americans pay less because they aren't necessarily getting a unique experience from EVE.
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting	Posted - 2010.06.02 12:46:00 - [41] Originally by: Akita T On the "oshi-" side, the EUR might go BELOW 1.00 USD in the not so distant future thanks to the FUBAR situation of Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal (or something like that) and the possibility of Germany and/of France pulling out. I think you put Italy but it's Ireland. - Auditing & consulting When looking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h + http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.06.02 12:56:00 - [42] Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha I think you put Italy but it's Ireland. You're right, I was confusing political problems in Italy with economic problems in Ireland. Not the best of news sources, just a new-ish random google news link (the only thing in question would be the bias, not the facts though) : Linkage "The eurozone 7-10 May summit marked a new highpoint in tensions and low point in relations as leaders met to thrash out a way of overcoming yet another emergency. The clash of different national interests was open with the German government, especially, striving to limit any new burdens placed on it. SarkozyÆs reported threat to pull France out of the euro and Barak ObamaÆs direct telephone intervention into the meeting openly piled pressure onto Angela Merkel to force the German government to agree to the ærescueÆ package. This was accompanied by the eurozone rule book being suddenly torn up. The European Central Bank was forced to do an abrupt u-turn, buying eurozone government bonds û in effect, lending money to governments that may not pay it back." "In the Guardian (London), Dan Roberts explained: ôMerkel called on Europe to ædevelop a process for an orderly state insolvencyÆ û in other words, work out how to let countries such as Greece, Spain and Portugal simply refuse to repay their debts. It might sound obvious to those on the outside, but this flies in the face of everything Europe has been trying to do and would set in train colossal losses for banks, pension funds and investors everywhere." "While there are no imminent signs of either the eurozone breaking up or individual countries leaving or being expelled, these issues are being discussed. Given the depth of the crisis it cannot be ruled out that one or more of these developments could come to pass sooner rather than later. As mentioned earlier, Merkel has threatened to throw countries out. It is also possible that German capitalism could decide that the costs of bailing out other countries outweigh the trade advantages it has won in the eurozone. In such a situation it is possible that Germany could leave the existing eurozone and try to create a sort of æeuro IIÆ with fewer countries, or even return to the Deutschmark. Interestingly, Austria, Finland and the Netherlands, some of the members of the old informal æDeutschmark zoneÆ, have been MerkelÆs strongest supporters in her battles with Sarkozy." "many governments are facing mounting problems at home with severe election defeats in France and Germany, the collapse of governments and early elections in Belgium and the Netherlands, sharp slumps in popularity in Ireland, Spain and now Italy, where BerlusconiÆs government is also in the grip of sharp infighting. The new coalition in Britain faces an uncertain future as it moves to implement cuts û one reason for its proposed measures to make the holding of early elections more difficult. Most European governments are unstable or unsure of their chances of re-election." _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.06.02 16:44:00 - [43] I have five accounts and haven't paid a single penny for Eve for well over 2 years. I don't 'grind', run missions or work hard at trading either. Making ISK is trivial. Anyone that has to pay RL money for eve is doing it wrong. ~_~
Vossejongk Caldari Bendebeukers Green Rhino	Posted - 2010.06.02 16:59:00 - [44] Solution to this: Create Paypal account Deposit **load of (Ç) cash on said account. Buy GTC for EVE on US websites Get subscription for EVE with said GTC's ??? Profit! ----------------------------------------------- EVE Gate: Originally by:** Simeon Tor Soon you'll be saying "Eve has a client?"
Telvani	Posted - 2010.06.02 17:31:00 - [45] Its just a tax on living in civilized society. ú2 or so, bargain.
Amor Desaparecida	Posted - 2010.06.02 17:59:00 - [46] Well if you dummies would quit sending your manufacturing jobs to the US, the Euro might stay ahead. It's not like you're helping us out in the long run or anything, we're just going to keep sending our jobs to Asia and Latin America. Americans and Europeans are idiots. Hey, we don't make anything here anymore! Hey, wait a minute! Why are we so poor?
Pytria Le'Danness	Posted - 2010.06.02 18:08:00 - [47] Originally by: Andrea Skye Edited by: Andrea Skye on 02/06/2010 03:13:00 So everyone in Europe is paying 15euros while everyone in america is paying $15. I am? Sorry, when I actually pay real money for the game because I think PLEX are too expensive I buy in the US. Hint: Go to Google, look up "Shattered Crystal". I never had any problems with them except once when they claimed they tried calling me but didn't - sending them an old email with a transaction number fixed that.
BlondieBC Minmatar Galactic Exploration and Missions	Posted - 2010.06.02 18:10:00 - [48] Don't worry guys, the PIIGS of europe will kill the value of Euro for you, then you can be poorer in RL and pay less.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.06.02 18:13:00 - [49] Edited by: Akita T on 02/06/2010 18:15:53 Originally by: BlondieBC Don't worry guys, the PIIGS of europe will kill the value of Euro for you, then you can be poorer in RL and pay less. You forgot a "G" there, mate "PIGS and PIIGS are grouping acronyms used by international bond analysts, academics, and by the international economic press that refer to the economies of Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, and Spain, especially in regards to matters relating to sovereign debt markets. When rendered as "PIGS", the "I" originally refered to Italy, but has occasionally become an interchangeable reference to Ireland. Some news and economic organisations have limited or banned their use due to criticism regarding perceived offensive connotations." Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain - PIGS Since the financial crisis of 2007û2010 : Ireland - included to form PIIGS "As the phrase gained prominence some commentators have used numerous variations such as PIIGGS which includes Great Britain for various political, economic or social arguments." The United Kingdom (Great Britain) - included to form PIIGGS _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Terrax Norik	Posted - 2010.06.02 18:23:00 - [50] Well, according to this graph, you have less to complain about. I wonder if the US players will start whining when it reverses?
Verys Burning Technologies Cult of War	Posted - 2010.06.02 18:52:00 - [51] Originally by: Musical Fist Becuase Europe is better than USA? Also in spelling? Anyway adjusting the price to the changes in currency would become too much of a hassle probably so they set one universal price which they keep standard. Add drone repair bays to carriers
Ekrid	Posted - 2010.06.02 19:31:00 - [52] Originally by: Hemp Invader Originally by: Neesa Corrinne If you're really whining about an amount of money that tiny, then you probably shouldn't be playing EVE anyhow. Then you sir, stay away from stock exchange, forex markets, trading, all the places that make a lot of money, because every cent counts :) this.
Myrkala Minmatar Interstellar Empire Warped Aggression	Posted - 2010.06.02 19:48:00 - [53] Just buy 3 months or more at once with your credit card, you get a discount. I used to subscribe to a 3-month plan, but I've now changed it to a 6 month plan, which works out to I think 12Ç/month, not too shabby. - Thanks CCP, I knew you had it in you! <3 Long live Naglfar!

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