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AlastorTheLost	Posted - 2010.06.09 17:50:00 - [121] Originally by: ISEEUYOU Originally by: Nina Mercedez I'm just ****ed off that it took me so long to get onto the L5 bandwagon. I got a whole 3 weeks out of it, before it was so rudely stripped away from me. I enjoyed doing them whilst watching all the TV programmes I like, or BSing with acquaintances. Or doing a plethora of other interesting things. So much for that idea. And I'm rapidly losing interest now, too. meh. Basically this. Lvl 5 missions are not harder then that with training, a decent pilot can do them semi-afk with 2 accounts (a good on with one account), if it wasn't for the threath of lowsec. And alastor, I'm starting to think you might be trolling after all those 'get outa ma whinethread' ramblings. I'll be posting anyway since this thread seems to be delivering. lol ofc you do that i never believed that ppl will fall for the comment i did really I See You \/ Get outa ma whinethread lol lol lol lol In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.In addition to the offending poster, the noun ôtrollö can also refer to the provocative message itself, as in that was an excellent troll you posted. While the term troll and its associated action, trolling, are primarily associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels highly subjective, with 'trolling' being used to describe many intentionally provocative actions outside of an online context. Me doing that no no no no no myster .....maby a little bit.....but its for a good perpose :) CCP is evil
Ace2001 Caldari S E A R	Posted - 2010.06.09 18:03:00 - [122] Originally by: AlastorTheLost As i already told again and again this topic is not to say that you are fine with what ccp done. .... You do not own these forums, you do not have the right to tell people that they can't post here. You can ask, politely, but that's about it. Quote: Always there will be ppl that will fight for something they dont even understand..it's called luck of understanding or luck of wisdome...its pathetic from your part to believe that you can change ppl's way of thinking.....grow up Actually, I'm pretty sure you can change people's way of thinking. By either educating them, or social engineering. Educating seems to be what all the regulars are trying to do. (Also trolling. Lots of trolling. <3 Also, where did that specific guy you're replying to say he was trying to change people's opinions?) Quote: We are just freaking protesting for lvl 5's nerfing Which is fine. If you don't like something, feel free to whine about it. However, you have to understand, nothing CCP ever does will make everybody happy. There will always be people who won't like the change. That's why if I was ever to become a game developer/creator, I would just go with the original idea/direction I had for the game and fudge everybody else; I know I can't make everybody happy, so I should just try and go for producing my dream. Quote: if you dont like it go post your trash to another topic Hey, that's an idea. Maybe we should make a thread about how much we like the change to L5 missions? Of course, here's the thing; people that enjoy something rarely voice that they love it. Most people only start to voice their opinion when it's something they dislike, when it ruffles their feathers, or are asked to voice it. So sadly, such a thread won't get as much attention as this one does. Quote: P.S. I will report ppl that insult others in this topic because i kindly asked ppl to speak there minds in the objective ahead...... Mmkay, I can agree with this to an extent. I don't like insulting/name calling either, really. Although I don't know if it's a forum offense/rule breaking, so you might just be wasting mod's time..though I'd need to go read up on the rules to be sure. D: However: Quote: P.S.S. Read all the topic and dont post what ever erelevant think comes to your head.....because you are just wasting our time. AGAIN >> THIS TOPIC IS FOR CCP TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT PPL ARE THINKING ABOUT HIGH SEC LVL 5'S IF YOU CANT READ DONT POST YOUR BOOLCRAP HERE Thanks Alastor ....Wait a second.. Quote: As i already told again and again this topic is not to say that you are fine with what ccp done. .... So, what, people who like what they did to L5 missions can't voice their opinion? Quote: AGAIN >> THIS TOPIC IS FOR CCP TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT PPL ARE THINKING ABOUT HIGH SEC LVL 5'S IF YOU CANT READ DONT POST YOUR BOOLCRAP HERE Oh, So we can voice that we like what they did with L5 missions? Make up your mind please. D:
MrRobot Amarr Ship Trading Company Cenit Obscenitas	Posted - 2010.06.09 18:30:00 - [123] back then I did many L5 missions. Sometimes 10 or 15 per day. I literally made thousands. I was addicted, couldn't get off. Now I'm free again. Thank you CCP!
AlastorTheLost	Posted - 2010.06.09 18:32:00 - [124] Originally by: Ace2001 Originally by: AlastorTheLost As i already told again and again this topic is not to say that you are fine with what ccp done. .... You do not own these forums, you do not have the right to tell people that they can't post here. You can ask, politely, but that's about it. Quote: Always there will be ppl that will fight for something they dont even understand..it's called luck of understanding or luck of wisdome...its pathetic from your part to believe that you can change ppl's way of thinking.....grow up Actually, I'm pretty sure you can change people's way of thinking. By either educating them, or social engineering. Educating seems to be what all the regulars are trying to do. (Also trolling. Lots of trolling. <3 Also, where did that specific guy you're replying to say he was trying to change people's opinions?) Quote: We are just freaking protesting for lvl 5's nerfing Which is fine. If you don't like something, feel free to whine about it. However, you have to understand, nothing CCP ever does will make everybody happy. There will always be people who won't like the change. That's why if I was ever to become a game developer/creator, I would just go with the original idea/direction I had for the game and fudge everybody else; I know I can't make everybody happy, so I should just try and go for producing my dream. Quote: if you dont like it go post your trash to another topic Hey, that's an idea. Maybe we should make a thread about how much we like the change to L5 missions? Of course, here's the thing; people that enjoy something rarely voice that they love it. Most people only start to voice their opinion when it's something they dislike, when it ruffles their feathers, or are asked to voice it. So sadly, such a thread won't get as much attention as this one does. Quote: P.S. I will report ppl that insult others in this topic because i kindly asked ppl to speak there minds in the objective ahead...... Mmkay, I can agree with this to an extent. I don't like insulting/name calling either, really. Although I don't know if it's a forum offense/rule breaking, so you might just be wasting mod's time..though I'd need to go read up on the rules to be sure. D: However: Quote: P.S.S. Read all the topic and dont post what ever erelevant think comes to your head.....because you are just wasting our time. AGAIN >> THIS TOPIC IS FOR CCP TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT PPL ARE THINKING ABOUT HIGH SEC LVL 5'S IF YOU CANT READ DONT POST YOUR BOOLCRAP HERE Thanks Alastor ....Wait a second.. Quote: As i already told again and again this topic is not to say that you are fine with what ccp done. .... So, what, people who like what they did to L5 missions can't voice their opinion? Quote: AGAIN >> THIS TOPIC IS FOR CCP TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT PPL ARE THINKING ABOUT HIGH SEC LVL 5'S IF YOU CANT READ DONT POST YOUR BOOLCRAP HERE Oh, So we can voice that we like what they did with L5 missions? Make up your mind please. D: Yea please make my day mate and create a topic and let CCP know how many ppl are happy with the changes they done in missions in general. Except of pirates or wanabe pirates you will find no one else. Dont get me wrong but i am not english and you might missunderstood my point >>>Point is that lvl 5 nerfing sucks in general and yes you can post your opinion if it has to do with the topic.. if not just dont waste me time . Its quite ovius why this topic is created lol P.S. We know now that iseeyou is propubly your alt ehheeheheheheehh.it was a general comment for what ccp trying to do. Mark my words ppl dont change...and if they do they are just selling out there way of thinking by addapting.Addaptation is only for the survivors not computer games if i make my way of thinking clear xD Post post post and come to link the petition ,topic you will make concerning lvl 5's nerfing owsomeness Kisses
AlastorTheLost	Posted - 2010.06.09 18:43:00 - [125] Originally by: MrRobot back then I did many L5 missions. Sometimes 10 or 15 per day. I literally made thousands. I was addicted, couldn't get off. Now I'm free again. Thank you CCP! A wise man once told that Detoxification is for quiters or Rehabitation is for quiters Use whatever centece make you feel better reverce lvl 5's nerfing give the opioum back to its ppl Peace out
ISEEUYOU	Posted - 2010.06.09 23:09:00 - [126] Originally by: AlastorTheLost P.S. We know now that iseeyou is propubly your alt ehheeheheheheehh.it was a general comment for what ccp trying to do. I'm not that guys alt.... Well obviously I'm an alt, but the reason I post with an alt is cause I don't want any extra pirates in my area looking for me, the ones already here are doing a good enough work. So also posting with my main would be kinda stupid. Or you are trying to say that there is only one person in eve that is running lowsec lvl 5:s, and that person is using all his/her alts to further their cause..... Dammit he's on to us
Ace2001 Caldari S E A R	Posted - 2010.06.10 02:29:00 - [127] Originally by: ISEEUYOU Dammit he's on to us Damn! Quick, everybody run for it! Get to the hideout and formulate a new plan! But no, I am in no way affiliated with this guy. This character is my main; if I bring **** onto myself, well, that's my own fault. I do have an alt though. She's an indy/miner. Poor girl couldn't afford a plex though and I had to let her unsub. :( (Also, between me and you and you and you and myself, the hum of those mining lasers was about to drive her insane.)
AlastorTheLost	Posted - 2010.06.10 09:23:00 - [128] G morning all Lets not forget CCP is getting angry if you dont buy there eve time and buying plexes from market the reasone so simple. 1.oooooo you dont have isk ? 2.ooooo you need some isks ? 3.Good because ccp has the way 4.Pay subscription baby and also buy eve time and make it plex by this smart move they will make bouble money form all accounts in some time 5.High sec pilots die die die motherfrackers :P Thats the true P.S. I hope they will not bane me from telling out there dark and rotten secret heheehhehehehehhehehhehe Reverse LVL 5's nerfing !!!!!!!!!! Reverse it or be poorer ccp is imf's pally Its true Think about it Possssssssssssssssssssssssssssst
Haramir Haleths Caldari Nutella Bande	Posted - 2010.06.10 09:29:00 - [129] Change lvl 5 and move them to 00 only
Hexton Korr	Posted - 2010.06.10 10:02:00 - [130] Originally by: AlastorTheLost STUFF Im happy level 5 missions got moved to lowsec, ill be able to run them more now with my group of corpies and have less people to worry about as competition. Im still paying my sub by buying plex of market, because im making lots of isk doing these lowsec level 5's. also if they moved some to 0.0 would be great also.
Zarko Dreadlor	Posted - 2010.06.11 13:26:00 - [131] I agree low sec is better... However, should be a little more risk for pirates. (while I'm waiting to train my tengu skills to create unprobably tengu fleet to **** off pirates and run lvl 5's...) Why do pirates not share in aggro from the NPC fire? It makes ganking way to easy, should actually have to jump in a tank themselves and risk some stuff... Have a few NPC's warp scram em / make them loose a ship for once. I don't think as many people would cry about lvl 5's in low sec if pirates had a risk / challange.
Antarea Starfallis Caldari Farsight Systems Omega Vector	Posted - 2010.06.11 14:02:00 - [132] Some people just don't know when to quit. Those who chain kill L5s as carebears that don't have any desire for lowsec/nulsec fun - have won the game. You may now leave satisfied that you will never be any cooler than you are now. There IS more to eve, but if that's all you want, then lets face it: You're done. Time to go. Play WoW? Sure, its fun for a while. You top the charts, beat every boss, gain your "best in slot" gear and find yourself wanting to make an alt except... you've already maxxed your alts. Its time to leave. Consider this your official "congrats, you won the game" call. You could continue to kick around doing dailies or snagging rare achievements, sure, but truth is the game has probably been over for you for some time, but you just end up staying... Take this advice from a gaming vet of... too many years. MMOs are modeled after RL ("Real Life"tm). There are individual victories and defeats and growing all throughout, but in the end there is no "wow, you just won RL!". You gotta know when to retire... and if you are throwing in the towel, it is ALWAYS best to pass on your riches to the next generation. It'll also cut off your desire to return to the game. I'm prepared to take this heavy burden from you and promise to pass on whatevers left after I run my course in this game to another aspiring noob. :)
Ophelia Ursus	Posted - 2010.06.11 15:00:00 - [133] OH SNAP. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1334641 Originally by: "CCP Zymurgist" When level 5 missions were first introduced back in 2007, it was intended that these missions take place only in low- and null-sec systems. Because of a longstanding bug in our mission distribution system, however, some agents would occasionally offer these missions in high-security systems instead of low-sec or 0.0 only. This issue was corrected in Tyrannis as part of a larger fix to distribution, as listed in the patch notes here: http://www.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp?patchlogID=205#fixes ù ôThe load balancing mechanism for missions in Dominion incorrectly prioritized high-load systems over low-load systems when selecting the location for mission objectives. Agents now prefer to send players to less loaded systems.ö
Ildryn The Inf1dels En Garde	Posted - 2010.06.12 01:16:00 - [134] haha working as intended
katana78	Posted - 2010.06.12 05:01:00 - [135] yea ... is a nice ship you train the skils many months and when you have the skils and isk CCP nerf it...... 0.0 is pain in the ass big battles cos laggggg. mining is slowli bad prices.. gankers.. L4 the samme all the time after a year is not a chalanger any more ,, plex god plex 0.0.. war .. lag. ok L5 at last god isk not amzing but god.. every mission need yuo to stay focus.. mm nice then ccp nerf it, loot faction modules .... is like CCP don like people have funn in what they like, 3 years at 15 dolars..600 dollars.. each 2 acounts 1200 dolars.... for what you nerf and nerf you dont repect your own rules... asumme teh is people that like PVP and people that dont... mix missions in low is unfair PVE ships cant figth PVP ships and the you have the mission agro to...... **** now what... close the account .. L4 naaa mining naaaa fix the lag on big battles mby.. wel time to find other game in online.. less dollars to CCP and island gl people.. nice antiwork..
Sariton Xavian	Posted - 2010.06.12 06:49:00 - [136] Originally by: Rip Minner Keep the level 5's in high sec its realy the only high sec activity that req. More then one ship to do. Now were back to no activity in high sec needing more then one ship again. This is the most coherent argument I've read in this entire thread as to why level 5's should be runnable in hisec. The "wahh wahhh!!! my cash cow went away and I'm crying" argument is really not compelling. Maybe we need sleeper anomalies showing up in hisec systems to provide "safe" group challenges that actually train people for PvP as a group activity, since sleepers are the closest that PvE gets to the way PvP plays. Level 5's, though challenging, are nothing like PvP. Even what happens when a pirate shows up at a level 5 mission site in lowsec barely qualifies as PvP lol.
Kerfira The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.12 08:31:00 - [137] Edited by: Kerfira on 12/06/2010 08:31:46 Originally by: Sariton Xavian Originally by: Rip Minner Keep the level 5's in high sec its realy the only high sec activity that req. More then one ship to do. Now were back to no activity in high sec needing more then one ship again. This is the most coherent argument I've read in this entire thread as to why level 5's should be runnable in hisec. Actually it isn't! If the objective is that several people should work together and have a challenge, there's absolutely no reason why they can't run L4's in T1 cruisers! Hell, for a real challenge they can run them in T1 frigates! The underlying argument with ALL the L5 whines is: "Wah! Don't take out ISK-printers away!" They try to hide it by mentioning the words 'challenge' and 'teamwork' a few times, completely ignoring that there are already plenty of ways to provide that. L5's need to go! They're simply way too profitable risk/reward-wise to be able to be run in high-sec. Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Rip Minner Gallente ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries	Posted - 2010.06.12 10:16:00 - [138] Originally by: Kerfira Edited by: Kerfira on 12/06/2010 08:47:50 Originally by: Sariton Xavian Originally by: Rip Minner Keep the level 5's in high sec its realy the only high sec activity that req. More then one ship to do. Now were back to no activity in high sec needing more then one ship again. This is the most coherent argument I've read in this entire thread as to why level 5's should be runnable in hisec. Actually it isn't! If the objective is that several people should work together and have a challenge, there's absolutely no reason why they can't run L4's in T1 cruisers! Hell, for a real challenge they can run them in T1 frigates! The underlying argument with ALL the L5 whines is: "Wah! Don't take our ISK-printers away!" They try to hide it by mentioning the words 'challenge' and 'teamwork' a few times, completely ignoring that there are already plenty of ways to provide that. L5's need to go! They're simply way too profitable risk/reward-wise to be able to be run in high-sec. There's a load of bs. Should we move all trading to low sec 0.0 null sec becouse good knows thats were the real isk is at. Is it a rock? Point a Lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship? Point a Lazer at it and profit. I dont realy see any differnces here.
Kerfira The Scope	Posted - 2010.06.12 10:48:00 - [139] Originally by: Rip Minner Originally by: Kerfira My post There's a load of bs. Should we move all trading to low sec 0.0 null sec becouse good knows thats were the real isk is at. So basically you're admitting that your whine IS on this form: "Wah! Don't take our ISK-printers away!" Remember, you were doing it for the challenge and teamwork, not the ISK... At least that's what you've been claiming! There's just as big a challenge if you do the L5's on Sisi, and just as big a challenge if you do L4's in T1 cruisers. Are you now saying you've been.... misleading us as to what your REAL motives are? Trading by the way is not affecting the game economy the same way as missions. No ISK or materials are created in trading, and for every winner there is a loser! Remember again, according to yourself, you're doing L5's for the challenge and teamwork! I've just shown you that those are still available! Originally by: CCP Wrangler EVE isn't designed to just look like a cold, dark and harsh world, it's designed to be a cold, dark and harsh world.
Oddshrub Minmatar Rummets koldeste kys	Posted - 2010.06.12 11:14:00 - [140] Mining operations require teamwork. Pvp requires teamwork. Wormholes require teamwork. Now highscale mission running does as well. I think it's a wonderful change to be honest, and I think part of the reason it was finally fixed now was because of the amount of people who'd begun soloing them with the use of alts. Clearly they were designed for teamwork, and now you need it to run them. I guess it sucks if you're one of those one-man operations who've never been outside of empire space but I sure as hell don't feel sorry for you.
Quagnar	Posted - 2010.06.12 12:57:00 - [141] Once again, those who don't like the change are right! I have a player in my Corp named Vradon. He is by far one of the oldest characters in Eve. He beta tested the game and I have not seen a Character older. He has more skill points and has done more PVP in 0.0 than anyone posting here. He agrees that the change is Bovine Manure. Thats Bull Sh!! for all you 0.0 players. Miners who make alot of isk do it by macro mining, CCP should put a stop to that. Mission runners , like pvp players are the only ones at thier key boards actively playing the game. What does a low sec player care if a lvl 5 is in high sec every once and a while, other than this would mean less players to gank at gates or in missions. Once again a real world company that cares nothing of the opinons of the majority of its customer base. I think we should protest, all mission runners should gather in one system and cause so much lag that the system crashes.
AlastorTheLost	Posted - 2010.06.12 13:16:00 - [142] Hi all , Ppl lets not forget that running lvl 5's solo is challenging . Becase some cant figure out the way that dose not means that its not fun . Also after some research i done with maps and agents ccp failed to fix the BUG and lvl 5's in high sec are possible even after Tyrranis patch . We are not wining or crying for the stupid nerfing we are just trying to say that lvl 5's are a nice way to start building an empire and make some isks to cover pvp costs . If lvl 5's are off the game new plan's players will have a dificult time to start an alliance of cover the costs for titans , super caps , carriers , dreads and all . I agree to get lvl 5's off game if they drop all prices at least 50-60% because the only reason to run them is isks if the prices fall we can all go to low sec or 0.0 and actualy have fun .But if you are a captain and even have a clue of the costs its redicilus to say otherwise . Think about it .....what will become in eve if there is no way for ppl to earn money ......And tell me after tyrannis is anyone buying stuff as they did beffore ??? How many ppl did lost there carriers and then took a new one ?That should be an interesting report CCP should export from its database and take a close look. CCP Marketing promotion for new products suck. CCP Failed to do lvl 5's in low sec. CCP Is destroying the sand box and they should stop promoting the game as one. Play in groups they say Do team work they say I have something simple to add as a comment in this >> CCP grow up and reconcider what you are doing the game made a 180o turn from what it was. I will always find a way to run shiiiit as i like and no one will tell me how to play bacause i do 50% missions and 50% pvp who you think you are to try saw us the way ?you think we are blind ppl ??? Nooooooo i think you are blind :) Peace out
AlastorTheLost	Posted - 2010.06.12 13:23:00 - [143] Edited by: AlastorTheLost on 12/06/2010 13:24:26 Originally by: Quagnar Once again, those who don't like the change are right! I have a player in my Corp named Vradon. He is by far one of the oldest characters in Eve. He beta tested the game and I have not seen a Character older. He has more skill points and has done more PVP in 0.0 than anyone posting here. He agrees that the change is Bovine Manure. Thats Bull Sh!! for all you 0.0 players. Miners who make alot of isk do it by macro mining, CCP should put a stop to that. Mission runners , like pvp players are the only ones at thier key boards actively playing the game. What does a low sec player care if a lvl 5 is in high sec every once and a while, other than this would mean less players to gank at gates or in missions. Once again a real world company that cares nothing of the opinons of the majority of its customer base. I think we should protest, all mission runners should gather in one system and cause so much lag that the system crashes. I agree totaly with you we should fight for what we want cas the game is not ccp's the game belongs to players that pay for it . Pirates always want ppl to kill so dont make ppl quite cas pirates will be after you ccp in no time. Dont break a chain that works becaue all players will start protesting and not actualy playing or paying.
Will Strafe Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.06.12 14:29:00 - [144] Originally by: AlastorTheLost Originally by: Jamie Banks Did a couple of low-sec Lvl5's the other day, good fun. Got a bunch of 6 people together, and missioned in peace, didn't even try to get probed out. There was even a fleet of 8 dreadnoughts and a mothership in one system across. If you don't like EVE you can GEEEEET OUT. As i already told again and again this topic is not to say that you are fine with what ccp done. Always there will be ppl that will fight for something they dont even understand..it's called luck of understanding or luck of wisdome...its pathetic from your part to believe that you can change ppl's way of thinking.....grow up We are just freaking protesting for lvl 5's nerfing if you dont like it go post your trash to another topic P.S. I will report ppl that insult others in this topic because i kindly asked ppl to speak there minds in the objective ahead...... P.S.S. Read all the topic and dont post what ever erelevant think comes to your head.....because you are just wasting our time. AGAIN >> THIS TOPIC IS FOR CCP TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT PPL ARE THINKING ABOUT HIGH SEC LVL 5'S IF YOU CANT READ DONT POST YOUR BOOLCRAP HERE Thanks Alastor Haha this is very funny. I are thinking about high sec lvl 5¦s: No
Rip Minner Gallente ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries	Posted - 2010.06.12 19:09:00 - [145] Edited by: Rip Minner on 12/06/2010 19:11:48 Originally by: Kerfira Edited by: Kerfira on 12/06/2010 08:47:50 Originally by: Sariton Xavian Originally by: Rip Minner Keep the level 5's in high sec its realy the only high sec activity that req. More then one ship to do. Now were back to no activity in high sec needing more then one ship again. This is the most coherent argument I've read in this entire thread as to why level 5's should be runnable in hisec. Actually it isn't! If the objective is that several people should work together and have a challenge, there's absolutely no reason why they can't run L4's in T1 cruisers! Hell, for a real challenge they can run them in T1 frigates! The underlying argument with ALL the L5 whines is: "Wah! Don't take our ISK-printers away!" They try to hide it by mentioning the words 'challenge' and 'teamwork' a few times, completely ignoring that there are already plenty of ways to provide that. L5's need to go! They're simply way too profitable risk/reward-wise to be able to be run in high-sec. Here you go Kerfira how do you like the way its adapted now? Just to remind everybody this is not a nerf it is a buff. With everyone moving towards center of high sec the systems bordering low sec or emptying out. So placing alts in low sec mission system will force them into high sec and pirets camping system will help you to force them into high sec. The more complicated a system is, the more room it leaves to be used and abused. They should have just left it to chance and not messed with it. Dominion mission bug made it so that missions are more likely to be given in more crowded systems. Lowsec are empty, so it give highsec missions. Tyrannis mission bug made it so that missions are more likely to be given in emptier systems. If you park useless alts in lowsec, it'll give highsec missions. People are movable. Instead of replace one bug with another, CCP should have just got rid of the manually introduced bugs. Sticking to simple probability means no one can manipulate it and no one can ***** about it. It also wouldn't cause additional problems like the mass-migration to deep highsec mission hubs we've been seeing. Edit: See so its not a nerf now you dont have to hope it sends you to high sec you can force it to send you. Adapt and cloak and put one little figer on all your alts hands up at the pirats Is it a rock? Point a Lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship? Point a Lazer at it and profit. I dont realy see any differnces here.
Trigos Trilobi Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.06.12 19:35:00 - [146] Originally by: Rip Minner Tyrannis mission bug made it so that missions are more likely to be given in emptier systems. If you park useless alts in lowsec, it'll give highsec missions. Originally by: CCP This quirk is being looked into; once it has been resolved, level 5 missions always occur in low- or null-sec systems. You guys read the news at all?
Sazkyen	Posted - 2010.06.12 20:43:00 - [147] Originally by: FunzzeR And contrary to every highsec dwellers opinion, lowsec is not the instadeath purgatory that they make it out to be. It there were no gates this game would rock. -SIG- Ship comparison
Kenny Dalglish	Posted - 2010.06.13 02:49:00 - [148] Originally by: Trigos Trilobi Originally by: Rip Minner Tyrannis mission bug made it so that missions are more likely to be given in emptier systems. If you park useless alts in lowsec, it'll give highsec missions. Originally by: CCP This quirk is being looked into; once it has been resolved, level 5 missions always occur in low- or null-sec systems. You guys read the news at all? Incompetence is shown every day. Why would saying they are going to do something make you think it'll actually happen?
Rip Minner Gallente ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries	Posted - 2010.06.13 03:23:00 - [149] Edited by: Rip Minner on 13/06/2010 03:23:19 Originally by: Kenny Dalglish Originally by: Trigos Trilobi Originally by: Rip Minner Tyrannis mission bug made it so that missions are more likely to be given in emptier systems. If you park useless alts in lowsec, it'll give highsec missions. Originally by: CCP This quirk is being looked into; once it has been resolved, level 5 missions always occur in low- or null-sec systems. You guys read the news at all? Incompetence is shown every day. Why would saying they are going to do something make you think it'll actually happen? Thats the way I see it too Kenny. It could easly be another 3 years before they "fix" this so called problem again is some truely unmeaningfull way again. Is it a rock? Point a Lazer at it and profit. Is it a ship? Point a Lazer at it and profit. I dont realy see any differnces here.
makrish1	Posted - 2010.06.13 06:08:00 - [150] Originally by: Rip Minner you dont have to hope it sends you to high sec you can force it to send you. Adapt and cloak and put one little figer on all your alts hands up at the pirats Yes, and pay double to play a game you originally only needed to pay for one account. claps Well done sir. Also, congratulations on Neo-like vision and the ability to see the code of EVE, when CCP haven't said anything about how to fix it.

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