you will hardly find a subcap that can grind up battleships faster than a nightmare. mach and vargur have less effective dps because of falloff, large blasters still lack range and torps are lolbad.

edit: plus no ammo cost!

edit2: 1500dps is the absolute end game for a nightmare, are you all5 in the relevant skills? and do you care to share your fit?

1500dps is megapulse 2's, 4 IN heatsinks, a large energy burst areator rig 2, using conflag and 2 5% damage implants. Alternatively, its 2 5% damage implants, 4 megapulse 2's w/ conflag, and 4 chelms heatsinks. For the first setup, I would be wondering where he would have gotten the cap from to do it with non-stop for 3-4 hours, for the second... damn that would be a pimped ship...

-Arazel

Edit: nvm... he posted his fit right as I was typing up my reply, and yes that is a damn pimped ship.

As for my own personal experiences, running stuff out in serpentis space the domi can work pretty nicely (especially with the new drone damage mods), and I was making 20mil using a sentry/rail domi before those mods were released... switch that to a navy domi, shield tank it, and you can put out more dps than the nightmare fit above - just warp in at 30-50k and start blapping everything. I also had good experiences, pulling in 25mil isk/tick in a pure t2 fit hyperion w/ 2 magstabs (and 20mil isk/tick using 2 of them), though the hyperion could only do that in forsaken hubs. A vindi would do even better, but I didn't see any real reason to superpimp my isk maker, when I could instead spend the money on more PvP ships.

As for a thanny, I have fighters 4 and advanced drone interfacing 4, though I have gallente carrier 5, and I was doing 20mil isk ticks using firbolgs. On the other hand, I heard that using dragonflies drastically improves their performance, though I have yet to test this.

-Arazel

Personally I hate ratting, so I pimp my ratting fits a bit more to add some risk factor of being caught and losing billions. I know that probably sounds dumb, but it's true.

Although it is not solo the best tick i have ever gotten is 46mil per bounty tick being pretty much nonstop for a few hrs. I did this with a very pretty Mach with fighters assigned from my alt in a thanny. Ps Forsaken hubs are by far the best iskies

you will hardly find a subcap that can grind up battleships faster than a nightmare. mach and vargur have less effective dps because of falloff, large blasters still lack range and torps are lolbad.

Not so at all. my Mach gets 35 mil ticks solo in Guristas and Angel Forsaken Hubs. I warp in, shoot a cruiser, approach the wreck and a couple minutes after warpin Im smack dab on top of the NPCs spawn point. No battleship get further than 15k away from me before it dies.

Interesting thread!

I rat Serpentis in a some-what pimped Tengu and get ~30Mil ticks. Hardly any effort and not too expensive to lose. =]

Interesting thread!

I rat Serpentis in a some-what pimped Tengu and get ~30Mil ticks. Hardly any effort and not too expensive to lose. =]

is HML tengu an option or is 0.0 ratting = HAM?

is HML tengu an option or is 0.0 ratting = HAM?

is HML tengu an option or is 0.0 ratting = HAM?

The naga is actually effective vs serpentis as well, since you can pull enough range to take next to no damage while still using antimatter. DPS on rails isn't as high as blasters, for sure. but the "I can hit you from here" factor is definitely a bonus.

Throw a bit of extra isk at it and It's not terribly unreasonable to top 800dps at 80km, with ~40km of falloff left to go

In my opinion, both are best to have.

HAM Tengus annhilate forsaken hubs; absolutely absurd damage. Right now I put two HAM Tengus in the same hub and they both make ~26m ticks.

I'm saving up to buy a thanny character, and then I will put them in separate hubs. My corp mate does this and says they've gotten upwards of 37m ticks. 111m per hour, per character; ~220m an hour all together (minus taxes).

Then with the rate you're annhilating hubs, you'll have plenty of escalations to do. I switch to a travel fit (nullifier, warp core stabs), head to the closest station to the escalation, refit to HM's and a bigger tank, and do the escalation. You can even bring your carrier in to the later escalations (if you have one).

Then with the rate you're annhilating hubs, you'll have plenty of escalations to do. I switch to a travel fit (nullifier, warp core stabs), head to the closest station to the escalation, refit to HM's and a bigger tank, and do the escalation. You can even bring your carrier in to the later escalations (if you have one).