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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.08.30 10:57:00 -
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Edited by: Eyeshadow on 30/08/2005 10:58:22
 Originally by: Ange1
My Deimos was worth up to a billion a bit ago before I lost it in a great little HAC fight we had. I was slowly building it up with faction modules. I managed to recover some of them in that fight so while still very expensive, its not quite as uber as it was. I hope to get more though. I've been flying Deimos cruisers for 10 months now, I've lost 13 of them in that time and I still have not maxed out my skills for them yet. Here was my setup:
Hi:
3x Heavy Electron II
2x Light Neutron II
1x Thons Modified Cloak
Med:
1x 10MN MWD II
1x Domination Web (15km/90%)
1x True Sansha Warp Disruptor (28km)
Low:
1x Centum A-Type Medium Armour Repairer
1x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten Plating
1x Dark Blood Explosive Hardener (55%)
1x RCU II
1x Dark Blood Cap Relay (25%)
1x True Sansha Cap Relay (25%)
Drones:
10x Valkyrie II's
sorry to be an ass but its no wonder you've lost 13 of them if you use a setup like that. Ive seen some crap deimos setups before but that takes the biscuit. Small guns, a cloak, lots of cap relays and kinetic drones??? Did you just think if you threw enough money at it it would be an uber setup regardless of what you put on it? Sorry but W T F was you smoking when you came up with that setup?
(P.S. im having a bad day at work so ignore the harshness of the post)
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Ange1
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Posted - 2005.08.30 11:06:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
sorry to be an ass but its no wonder you've lost 13 of them if you use a setup like that. Ive seen some crap deimos setups before but that takes the biscuit. Small guns, a cloak, lots of cap relays and kinetic drones??? Did you just think if you threw enough money at it it would be an uber setup regardless of what you put on it? Sorry but W T F was you smoking when you came up with that setup?
(P.S. im having a bad day at work so ignore the harshness of the post)
With all due respect, I've killed ALOT of ships with my setup, including many BS's solo and Valkyrie's are explosive drones not kinetic. As for the cloak, all my pilots wear cloaking devices. You'd be surprised what you can do with them, they're integral to our tactics. I'm setup to tank with moderate firepower. Pretty much every single time I've died has been due to being ganked by a large fleet or being in fleet combat. I think I've died twice to 1v1's with Battleships. One was against a Tempest who webbed, scrambled and nossed me to death, the other was a Raven where we killed each other.
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2005.08.30 16:24:00 -
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He does have a point though, you're negating 40% of your damage potential by fitting two small blasters, and you're not making use of her damage output in the slightest. The Deimos is designed to get in fast, kill quickly and get out. There are some very fine setups in this thread that use nothing but standard gear since not everyone has a billion isk to throw at a ship.
Taking a Deimos into a fleet battle? Each to their own I guess, but taking anything close-range, especially an expensive T2 cruiser is asking for trouble. She's a solo or pack killer, not a fleet winner.
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Ange1
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Posted - 2005.08.30 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Ange1 on 30/08/2005 16:34:47
Well despite people's misgivings, it works for me very well ;)
My corpmates bring the heavy firepower in their HAC's anyway ;)
When I did take a Deimos in fleet operations, I changed it to sniper setup. Not what it was designed for, but I really don't like flying any other ships.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2005.08.30 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: Gariuys on 30/08/2005 16:38:37
RE:eyeshadow, you have one point, cap dies pretty fast, although it holds out long enough for me. The tank is there to keep me alive just long enough, not to sustain damage. Just have to be careful not to devote too much cap too your mwd.
The painter increases my effective range to beyond 10km with the IONs, it means I can't scramble myself but it's not setup to be alone. For solo there's a scrambler in there naturally.
Like your max damage setup btw, it's quite close to a setup i use as well sometimes, although I like 20% all more then another mag field personally today. I have flown the 3x mag field too. Mix of ions and electrons works well. But I like the range on ions and since I've gotten some stuff on there to reduce my grid usage a little, and a good adv. weapon upgrades, I've switched to something that can run all ions.
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Eight Ace
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Posted - 2005.09.07 14:04:00 -
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I would appreciate the opinion of some more experienced guys on my current deimos setup.
I mainly use this for ratting and it works a treat.
Hi : 5 x Heavy Neutron Blaster II / antimatter.
Med : Named Webber, Tech II 10MN AB, (Painter / Cap recharger not settled on one or the other yet )
Low : Energized adaptive II, N-Type explosive, Repper II, 2 x RCU, Mag Field II.
Drone bay I initially fitted with warriors because I was worried about frigs and intys but once webbed they go down in a shot or two, techII drones coming soon(tm)
Everyone, or most on the thread seem to favor ions though - whats the deal with that?
Someone enlighten me please becuase I am loving this setup to bits but I am a bit concerned it's not going to 'hac' it (lol) in PVP.
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Vee Bot
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Posted - 2005.09.07 14:18:00 -
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Originally by: Eight Ace
Everyone, or most on the thread seem to favor ions though - whats the deal with that?
Ion use less grid and track better, so you dont need those/so many rcus.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2005.09.07 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: Eight Ace
I would appreciate the opinion of some more experienced guys on my current deimos setup.
I mainly use this for ratting and it works a treat.
Hi : 5 x Heavy Neutron Blaster II / antimatter.
Med : Named Webber, Tech II 10MN AB, (Painter / Cap recharger not settled on one or the other yet )
Low : Energized adaptive II, N-Type explosive, Repper II, 2 x RCU, Mag Field II.
Drone bay I initially fitted with warriors because I was worried about frigs and intys but once webbed they go down in a shot or two, techII drones coming soon(tm)
Everyone, or most on the thread seem to favor ions though - whats the deal with that?
Someone enlighten me please becuase I am loving this setup to bits but I am a bit concerned it's not going to 'hac' it (lol) in PVP.
You have no cap modules. If you have to tank something long enough to kill it you're going to be in trouble. The cap on a deimos is nice, but a medium repper plus the guns really does suck it dry. Plus your gonna be slower getting into range with an AB. As an NPCing fit, its ok, as a PVP its a bit meh.
I think my electron/ION mix with 3 dmg mods i posted will outdmg it, let alone tank better. The neutrons do have nice fall off but their DPS is only 7% base higher than IONs and 14% higher than electrons and ive got 2 extra dmg mods on. Not really sure, will have to run the numbers on that.
Its the lack of MWD and any kind of cap recharge mods that puts me off that setup though
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Nagarutu Mishima
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Posted - 2005.09.11 01:01:00 -
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I started to realy like this ship for a coupple of seconds untill i realized that there is no changse in hell to catch anyone without fitting a sensor booster 2, and with the 3 medslots thats gonna be difficult, you cant skip the webber, scrambler or the mwd / afterburner. anybody got any idea of how what you skip to put on a sensor booster but still keep the good stuff?
Would it be possible to go without the mwd/afterburner and put on a "speedbooster" in lows?, ideas ppl?
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Eight Ace
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Posted - 2005.09.15 10:56:00 -
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Latest and greatest ..
Hi : 5 x Tech II Ion Blasters.
Med : 80% Web. 10MN MWD. 18% Cap recharger
Low : Tech II Armor Hardeners (55%), 2 x Mag Field II, Cap Relay, Medium Armor Rep II.
Hows that look ?
Obviously this is a gurista hunting NPC setup. for PVP I would swap the hardeners for more sensible ones.
Also for PVP I think it would be better to have a -2 9km dread gurista scrambler where the 18% recharger is and swap the 20% relay for a 25% tech II variant but (1) I dont know if that fits and (2) I have not seen a tech II relay yet.
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2005.09.15 10:58:00 -
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You could fit a small nos in slot left :)
It's not much but it's better than having nothing there -.-
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Eight Ace
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Posted - 2005.09.15 13:31:00 -
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Actually I dont think I can - if I remember right it needed like 2 extra CPU. |
MrCjEvans
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Posted - 2005.09.23 03:52:00 -
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my setup.
5x ion II
1xmwd 1xwebber 1xscramb
1xmed repII 1x xp hardner 2x mag stabs 1x 400mm tungsten 1x RCU
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juduzz
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Posted - 2005.09.23 14:59:00 -
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My group setup is:
5 electrons, small nos
MWD,web, disruptor
Med rep2, CPR, explosive hardener, 800mm plate 2xmag stabs
But been looking at for solo (untested):
4 ions, modal electron(CPU), proto cloak
MWD, web, disruptor,
400mm tungsten, medium rep, explosive hardener, CPR, mag stab, energized adaptive plating
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Aerick Dawn
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Posted - 2005.09.23 15:34:00 -
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My setup...
5 medium ion blaster II's, 1 light nos
1 MWD, 1 scrambler, 1 webber
lows, crammed with magnetic stab II's, sometimes 2 warp stabs.(depends on how target rich the environment is)
The damage is unfrackingreal....
I use this in tandem with a partner. For me, this is the best setup. May not be for you however. My partner's setup is a secret and blends very well with this one.
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Nytemaster
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Posted - 2005.09.29 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Eight Ace
Actually I dont think I can - if I remember right it needed like 2 extra CPU.
Try some other named mods instead of tech II to gain some CPU.
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Bazman
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Posted - 2005.09.29 04:57:00 -
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400 Tungstens are nice on a Deimos, gives it a reasonable level of armour (less than 2000 armour = urgh)
5x Heavy Ion II's, Small nos, Remote small rep (Switch out the nos for the rep depending on solo or group flying)
MWD, X5 Web, 20km Scram for Solo, 7.5km for group
Med Rep II, N-Type Explosive Hardener annnnnd....
My last four slots usually vary from
CPR, CPR, Mag Stab, Mag Stab (Indefinate runnning of MWD or Rep, long run time of both)
Or
400 Tungesten, CPR, PDU II, Mag Stab (Does nice damage, however its a bit of a cookie cutter setup for this ship now)
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Serve
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Posted - 2005.09.29 08:46:00 -
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Originally by: MrCjEvans
my setup.
5x ion II
1xmwd 1xwebber 1xscramb
1xmed repII 1x xp hardner 2x mag stabs 1x 400mm tungsten 1x RCU
Any other setup is worng.
(worng is the new pwnd, us it)
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Eight Ace
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Posted - 2005.10.12 12:22:00 -
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yeah I think, note, think that with advanced weapon upgrades V and a rack of named tech I ions you could fit a medium nos on that setup. not sure though.
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Veritech
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Posted - 2005.10.15 11:29:00 -
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Thanks all for these excellent posts on Diemos setups. I have noticed this ship has become about 20% more expensive over the last few months or so. Probably because of its effectivness. 
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kar wai
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Posted - 2005.10.21 14:27:00 -
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NPC Setup:
HIGH: 5 * 250mm II'2 + small remote armor repair (couldn't fit anything else)
MED: AB II, caps II, caps II
LOW: Hard II, Hard II, Small repair II, Small Repair II, RCU, Mag Stab II
(2 smalls do as much as 1 med; you loose a low slot, but it saves a PG)
Between 15-30km everything is toast in notime. Dam mod = ~8.
Below 15km: unleash the Tech2 drones!
I'd like to improve this setup. Any comments?
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KilROCK
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Posted - 2005.10.21 14:31:00 -
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Originally by: kar wai
NPC Setup:
HIGH: 5 * 250mm II'2 + small remote armor repair (couldn't fit anything else)
MED: AB II, caps II, caps II
LOW: Hard II, Hard II, Small repair II, Small Repair II, RCU, Mag Stab II
(2 smalls do as much as 1 med; you loose a low slot, but it saves a PG)
Between 15-30km everything is toast in notime. Dam mod = ~8.
Below 15km: unleash the Tech2 drones!
I'd like to improve this setup. Any comments?
pvp with it 
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Abrah
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Posted - 2005.10.21 16:54:00 -
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I'm quite new to this hac thing...
5x neutron blasters II
v-tb overcharged mwd , web , painter II or warp disruptor depends if i have a tackler with me
med armor repair I , explosive hardner , mag stab II , 2x RCU II
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the armor repair I does 240 hp / 9.20 sec and a t2 one does 320/12 sec the diferance is 1hp/sec or so . i have chosen neutrons coz i belive all it matters is warp in kill and run and if things get nasty just run if not scrambled...anyway this is just my first setup im not experienced with this ship. |
KilROCK
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Posted - 2005.10.21 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: KilROCK on 21/10/2005 17:02:04
I don't know what you're smoking but both tech 1 and tech 2 version of the medium armor repairers have a stock reactivation rate of 12 sec. Stop compared your fitted repairer to the medium tech 2 unfitted one.
Also, the deimos has 6 low slots, and your setup uses 5.
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Jamm0
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Posted - 2005.10.21 18:04:00 -
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Gang work
5 250II
2 f-90
1 disrupter(somtimes faction)
6 mag stabs
10 T2 medium drones
or 5 damage 1 cpu and 2 jammers, wont work after stacking nerf patch and needs lvl 5 advance weapons upgrade.
If re-installing somthing does not fix your problem, bin it.
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Abrah
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Posted - 2005.10.22 12:50:00 -
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yes indeed i think i was smoking something .i will swich to a t2 armor repair. and add a energized adaptive nano to the low slot i forgot to write that....think i was drunk when i writen this 
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Liam Fremen
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Posted - 2005.10.22 13:09:00 -
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My 2 actual setup i use for pvp:
5x ion's 2
mwd, scrambler, webber
repper med, 2 adaptive membrane tech2, 3 dmg mod
Very good dmg output, plenty of firepower and balanced resistance
The 2nd one:
5x ion's 2
mwd, scrambler, web
6x dmg mod
This fitting just roxxx, i killed 2 enemy hacs with this (1 deimos, 1 zealot) but i survived with like 10% armor and 30% hull... so well, u need to have backup for repair urself...
now i'm training adv. weap upgrade to 4-5 so i can fit all the t2 variant.
if u want my opinion try to don't use RCU in blaster fitting... u waste 1 low slot.. sometime changing 1 t2 mod give u the chance of using it without.
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MAcheTT3
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Posted - 2005.10.22 18:35:00 -
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Looking at Deimos setups... Would anyone ever use a Deimos without a Medium NOS, or is that suicide on a stick?
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maximyus
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Posted - 2005.10.24 03:36:00 -
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hey guys would like ideas on a setup using heavy electron II's but how is this possible with only 1075 pg
can anyone shed a light pls
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Gh0ST Ryder
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Posted - 2005.11.02 11:31:00 -
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hi's
5x ion2's
1x med nos named
mid's
1x domination 10mn mwd
1x 7.5k scram
1x fleeting web (90%)
low's
1x hardener explosive
1x med repairer
2x mag stab 2's
2x cap relay
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